Italia vs Spain

Spain

i personally cannot choose because i like both countires
evertime i watch Giro or Vuelta i wonder I live there and ride those roads every day, taking pleasure from landscapes

>italy
VAFFANCULO ITALIA

>>72608253
waarom?

I rly want to visit italia

Stop confronting us, I love Italy and Italy loves Spain.

Enough now.

Italy + Spain = L O V E

>>72608241
Norway
Internet is a rare over here

Spain

I rly want to visit españa

spain is arab?

>>72608341
berber

spain

spain

>>72608241
>Where would you live?
Both are great

>why italian and spanish poster so rare
We are?

>>72608241
Italy (North)

Spain is an empty boring desert

>>72608412
Kill yourself

File: P6300052.jpg (1MB, 2816x2112px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 2816x2112px

>>72608412
>Spain is an empty boring desert
Thats only Andalucia, and only like 10% of it
Spain is top 5 in forests per square kilometer
have some OC

>>72608424
Why would you want a sandfrog to live in Spain?

File: 1475582778378.png (44KB, 585x533px) Image search: [Google]

44KB, 585x533px

out of scale of 1-10 how lazy is italy and spain?

>>72608517

10

>>72608349
is martin fourcade spanish

File: P5080411.jpg (777KB, 2048x1536px) Image search: [Google]

777KB, 2048x1536px

>>72608482

>>72608517
We are the laziest people on this planet and yet kicked your ass

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cape_Celidonia

1. That's a difficult choice, honestly either is fine.

2. With Spain it's because their English ability is low. There are a decent amounts of Italians.

>>72608241
Italy

>>72608550
>martin fourcade

no idea who is that guy

File: cette-annee-j-ai-pu-travailler-et-mettre-en-place-ce-que-je-voulais-et-c-est-de-ca-dont-je-suis-heureux-se-rejouit-martin-fourcade-1447537378.jpg (93KB, 1600x974px) Image search: [Google]

93KB, 1600x974px

>>72608593
french guy from spain-french border places(?)

I've lived in both countries for a while. Must say I like them both equally. Though the Andalucian mountains are gorgeous. So I'll stay here for a while.

>>72608642
Well, Fourcade could be a catalan surname but never heard of it

File: martin fourcade.jpg (29KB, 640x426px) Image search: [Google]

29KB, 640x426px

>>72608642

File: Martin-Fourcade-2-620x400.jpg (52KB, 620x400px) Image search: [Google]

52KB, 620x400px

>>72608671

>>72608482
Lo de Andalucía es otro meme, eres como el francés pero con Andalucía. El centro peninsular es mucho más seco que el sur y mi provincia en concreto (Huelva) es la que tiene un mayor porcentaje de masa forestal de España

>>72608702
are you the gay russian obsessed with spanish cops?

File: Image 5910 martin.jpg (126KB, 1187x667px) Image search: [Google]

126KB, 1187x667px

>>72608702

>>72608717
no

File: P5080417.jpg (731KB, 2048x1536px) Image search: [Google]

731KB, 2048x1536px

>>72608708
ya dije 10%, es algo así no?
el desierto de almería y poco más

>>72608843
>mcc cada vez que voy a santiago tengo que ver el mausoleo de fraga

>>72608316
THIS

>>72608241
Gibraltar

Spain.

Had the chance to visit Italy but turned it down. Too many Italians.

>>72608396
>both are great

File: enough.jpg (15KB, 316x202px) Image search: [Google]

15KB, 316x202px

We are friends, we are brothers, do not bully the italy

File: 1461562630637.jpg (89KB, 600x505px) Image search: [Google]

89KB, 600x505px

>>72608280
la puttana della tu mà

>>72608316
QUESTO
ESTO

>>72608962
northern italians hate us, though

>>72609058
Not the ones I know.

>>72609058
They don't. I went to Tuscany and Lombardy and all the old people wanted to talk with me and they were very friendly

>>72609058
northern italian here, I love you ^^
there's no hatred like vs terroni, if that's what you are fearing
none at all, just LOVE

I'd live in Spain for a simple reason: economy.
While it's true that Italy's economy is better than Spain's it is also true that Spain is growing again and unemployment is going down, together with youth unemployment.
Italy is stagnant and its political scenario is so very un-promising (if that's even a word).
Italy could easily be stuck for 20 years or even more.

File: 21.jpg (11KB, 201x219px) Image search: [Google]

11KB, 201x219px

>>72608316
This

>>72609186
Spanish public debt skyrocketed with the current government in extra 500bn euros (in just six years). We are utterly fucked.

>>72609186
>Italy's economy is better than Spain's
It is the same. Industrialized north and an agrarian South. I think Spain surprassed Italy in GDP per capita this year

File: Economy.png (75KB, 705x889px) Image search: [Google]

75KB, 705x889px

>>72609186
>While it's true that Italy's economy is better than Spain's

uh... about that...

Like both. And maybe both are the best place to live in world. Good economy (in a world stage), excellent life quality, exceptional weather, history, culture, food.... Low crime, and amazing people.

C'mon, who wouldn't live in Spain or Italy?

Don't bully Italy

>>72609238
>>72609252
See? One more reason to live there. That is, however, way too little too make an economy comparison.
Unemployment in Italy is still way better (for now).

File: 3CBE6A2B00000578-4182788-A_detailed_map_shows_that_43_3_per_cent_of_those_born_in_Bosnia_-m-79_1486000972485.jpg (125KB, 634x629px) Image search: [Google]

125KB, 634x629px

>>72609289
In the case of Spain we barely emigrate. Portugal on the other hand...

>>72608241
2. because we have a nice weather so we're not stuck 24/7 inside, like finland.

>>72609335
Yup. Italy has a more solid economy overall. Spain just has a very specialized industry that is usually pretty productive and a lot of tourism which leads to less stable jobs

File: espita.jpg (33KB, 505x412px) Image search: [Google]

33KB, 505x412px

>>72609335
True

>>72609359
this

>be ultra rich
>can't go outside because cold and dark
>stay inside posting autism with your 10,000€ pc

>>72609289
you forgot to say HOT WOMYN and cheap meat

JAMÓN IS GOAT

however, living in those places is bad if you're a wagie

>>72609186
>>72609138
hey fellow Italian buds, I need to find a birth certificate in Italy (grand grand grand father). Halp pls

>>72609429
>hey fellow Italian buds, I need to find a birth certificate in Italy (grand grand grand father). Halp pls


every fucking time, this the thing I hate about Italy

>>72609429
>muh heritage

>>72609429
> hey fellow Italian buds, I need to find a birth certificate in Italy (grand grand grand father). Halp pls
I don't know shit about that, try asking on /r/Italy or something

>>72609429
I need about three fiddy (hundreds)

It's just all about which one would you prefer to live with - Westgoths or Lombards/Ostgoths?

Northern Italy.

>>72609487
>this the thing I hate about Italy

wut

>>72609788
>be argentinian
>hate spain
>have an italian great grandfather
>get the italian passport like nothing
>move to spain and boast all the time about how great is argentina and tell everybody that you are italian

>>72609900
how is that our fault exactly?

>>72609252
what does spain produce other than agricolture and zara? I'm being serious.

>argies are coming, lads, be careful

File: NOOOO.jpg (55KB, 494x339px) Image search: [Google]

55KB, 494x339px

>>72609948

>>72609948
un cannone.....

>>72609943
Biggest constructors in the world,high speed trains,the second biggest producer of cars in Europe, agroalimentary industry,textilie industry,renewable energies,telecomunication technology,farmaceutical products and some chemical refinement

>>72609925
because you give passports very easily

>>72610020
>second biggest producer of cars in Europe
i really doubt this

>>72610039
only to people who can prove they have blood connection, if they are assholes it's not our fault.

>>72609943
el padANO seniores ajajajajakajakaja

>>72610039
says spain who gives away passports to descendants of spanish jews of 1000 years ago. meh.

>>72610086
>says spain who gives away passports to descendants of spanish jews of 1000 years ago. meh.
half part of our population has jew heritage

>>72610075
they just have to prove a remote connection to your country to get it, for a good reason they never try that in Spain

>>72610086
And do they go to your country to piss you off? No, then shut your mouth.

>>72610039
We do that too tho

>>72610058
It is a fact pal. Germany invest more money in Spain than in any other country that is notbthe US. Lots of car factories and leading companies for car suplements
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_motor_vehicle_production

>>72610143
>they never try that in Spain

well memed

>>72610172
>being this butthurt at us because of Argentinians

cry more babby

File: fdf.png (410KB, 674x724px) Image search: [Google]

410KB, 674x724px

>>72610143

>>72610187
No we don't. Otherwise they would bother with the country they are moving.

>>72609336
>Bosnia
holy shit

>>72608316
>>72609217
ITT: autistic little brothers

>>72609900
argies are ok anon wtf are you talking about...the propblem are congolombians.


i think that argies were the best inmigrants in Spain around 2000s


t.not a argie

We literally give a spanish citizenship to all latin americans for free

>>72610264
t. retarded brother locked in the cellar

>>72610251
all dem houses ain't gonna get burglar'd by themselves

I loved Tuscany and Venice every time I've been, but the I found the Italians annoying.
I've never been to Spain, but I'm learning Spanish so I guess I'd pick there because of that.

>>72610271
an

>>72608241
Italy any day

>>72610271
t. José Terroni Zarampuñilla Rossi

>>72610244
but you literally do

>>72610264
You are jealous

>>72610244
If a bolivian or a philipine ask for a spanish citizenship, we give it for free
>muh ex-colonies

>>72610280
t. brother traumatized by millenia of bordering retarded Germans and Brits, and bearing the brunt of living close to them*
FTFY

It isn't our fault that we're weird.

File: 1466747748500-3.png (278KB, 420x410px) Image search: [Google]

278KB, 420x410px

>>72610264
>2006

>>72610271
argies are just italian looking waiters moaning about argentina, but it's true that they don't commit crimes like the other sudacas

>>72610336
argentinians look spanish as fuck, they are like weird italians\

>>72610353
you mean mutts

Almost have a heatstroke each time I go to southern Europe

Northern Italy I guess

>>72610020

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcMacJa2Cls

>>72610392
sorry we're full

>>72610309
We literally don't. Getting the spanish citicenship is hard because first you have to move legally to Spain or stay three years illegally in Spain and pray that the administration allows you to stay if you show that you have money to stay and can get a job. The problem was when Zapatero passed an amnesty back when the real estate bubble was growing.

t. someone that worked in a consultant office

>>72610410
Here comes da Germanic enrichment again :DDDD

>>72610353
they have your face, yesterday I was attended by a clone of Andreotti

>>72610312
What? I thought the "muh ex colonies" thing ended long ago wtf...

>>72610467
>Norway
>Germanic

>>72610312
>we give it for free

But he has to move legally to Spain. Tourist visa doesn't work for example.

>>72610467
>>72610493
see >>72610264

>>72610353
No they don't, they're euro mutts like Americans.

>>72610392
fuck off we're full

also
>northern italy is somehow "colder" than the south
so that's what the extracomunitarian scandinavians actually think

>>72610471
all the argies I met were looked like Fernando Martinez

>>72610516
they are amerindians,.

>>72610529
There's always space for one more snownigger

>>72610529
>mfw it snowed

http://www.crtvg.es/crtvg/camaras-web/o-cebreiro

>>72610627
yes, in my oven :)

File: Mediterranean.png (1MB, 4231x2592px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 4231x2592px

God climate

Spanish has a great history, but the modern Italy obiviously is less cucked.

HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ALL SPANIADS + SOUTH FRENCH + ITALIANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

URGENTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

post pics of your backayrds please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i want to see what is spring looks and smells like in your countries!!!!

>>72610875
northern Galicia is mediterranean?

File: Sudacas.gif (300KB, 1200x715px) Image search: [Google]

300KB, 1200x715px

>>72608517

>>72610898
>modern Italy obiviously is less cucked
I hear that Italy has a inmigration problem, we haven't accepted even 5000 refugees
It's true that we have a lot of sudacas tho

>>72610943
see>>72610658

>>72611015
I guess that I'm sudaca now
Fuck, I wanted to be a berber

>>72611015
>mfw canarians struggle to rent a flat in mainland Spain because of their sudaca accent

>>72611015
delet

>>72610943
>Backyards
>In Spain

File: e9ee29684e1fd757117b24c9c3fa68ad.jpg (64KB, 736x639px) Image search: [Google]

64KB, 736x639px

>>72611230
Forgot pic

>>72611081
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnvnTyjs-lM
¿Esto suena muy sudamericano?
Aunque dice un par de palabras que en mi vida había escuchado

>>72611047
post your daily landscapes, whic you see from windows, and on way to school/work
are you from uni?

>>72610875
>Galicia
>more mediterranean than Valencia
wtf does Csb and Csa stand for

>>72611263
I've always wondered about this. Outside the main cities Spain is fucking empty, we're underpopulated for our size. And yet even in the countryside, you've got plenty of people cucking themselves into living in apartments, even in villages with 1000-2000 inhabitants there are apartment buildings. "EJ QUE UNA CASA DA MUCHOS GASTOS", but in fact in an apartment you get cucked into paying ruinous derramas month after month for stuff you don't even want, not to mention community expenses.

Why?!?

Italy pretty much invented Europe so naturally I would rather be Italian so I could wewuz all day long.

>>72609289
Sure as fuck would rather live in either than Brazil

>>72608517
Do you remember Lepanto?

Italy has better food and historical sites and natural beauty, but Spain is still about 90% as good for those. But I would pick Spain just because I know Spanish already from school.

>>72608932
You were right. We don't need ignorant pinkish fatty anglos

>>72612204
>from school

Both are god tier, but to me Italy edges out Spain in almost every regard except perhaps beach tourism.

File: 1487723936414.png (964KB, 1215x741px) Image search: [Google]

964KB, 1215x741px

>>72608918

File: PBb5kof.jpg (29KB, 400x386px) Image search: [Google]

29KB, 400x386px

>>72612330
>its another "the best part of spain is the beach right?" foreigner
do you have any idea how many f*cking museums and years of art we have in Spain? Besides architecture, landmarks, natural reserves....
We even have a decent amount of roman and pre-roman ruins, although if you want Roman stuff italy is better obviously

>>72612439
kek

>>72612204
>Italy has better historical sites
No

>>72608280
Vaffanculo zingaro....fuck off gipsy

>>72615321
We are yours ancient fhathers

>>72610467
Last time someone settled here from South Scandinavia (Lombards) was a great time from our North

>>72611693
>Why?!?

I´ve read an article about this. it claimed you guys felt more secure living together and not in detached houses in fear of being raided by moors

>>72617327
>in fear of being raided by moors

the last raid in northern Spain was in the year 997

>>72617488
the last time my ancestors were attacked by a mountain lion was 10,000 years ago. Still people don´t like to wander around in the darkness

>>72617327
But typical townhouses in spain are usually built next to each other, not isolated like chalets

>No poortugal
Lmao

>>72617555
Yeah, because the only danger in the darkness are mountain lions.

>>72617327
That's why almost all our cities are in the interior of the Peninsula, the coastal ones usually get razed by barbary pirates.

>>72611913
Sometimes? Yes!

Would prefer they both than Ireland.

>>72611742
But you saved Europe from the Muslim hordes, YOU WUZ HUSSARS N SHIET

File: Schermata 2017-03-22 alle 18.11.14.png (3MB, 1302x978px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 1302x978px

>>72610943
'ere

>>72610529
>northern italy is somehow "colder" than the south
>implying it's not

are you legitimately retarded?

>>72608241
Spain, I just can't stand guidos.

>>72609943
We don't have famous brands but we produce a lot of things

>>72608297
The language is nice, the people are chill. It's more like a collection of counties which keeps things interesting.

>>72611550
Valencia: arid
>>72611004
>>72611550
Galicia in part has a dry period

>>72608517
>that pic
At least they separeted us and Argentina from Mexico and the rest of sudacas :^)

>>72610086
>gives away passports to descendants of spanish jews of 1000 years ago
Meanwhile I've given up trying to get my Spanish passport, and my father is fucking Spanish. The consulate always treat me like shit lmao, it's just too much hassle only to be able to travel more easily.

Italy is overall my favorite country in the world, but I won't trade it for my Castile

>>72608241
Spain, Balearic Islands

>>72624876
If you don't know your father is hard to give you the nationality desu

>>72624876
>only to be able to travel more easily
And being able to live almost anywhere within a continent

>>72625104
Eh, I don't really want to live in any other country tbqh
I'm quite satisfied with my life where I live, it's comfy as fuck. Moving to another country is not easy and not everyone is accepting of foreigners.

Maybe studying in Europe would be cool, though.

>>72625036
kek

>>72608241
spain, i'm too lazy to learn a language... wow, i guess i can be a good spaniard.

>>72626772
I heard Spaniards like the porteño accent. It also seems considerably easier for me than other accents (the pronunciation and a couple of other things are more similar to portuguese imho), but idk if it would be a good idea to learn it, as I could just end up with an unnatural accent that just sounds horrible.

>>72612439
based. Wish I was some venetian expert navigator hired by the crown of Aragon to defeat dirty anglo pirates in the caribbeans. But eventually I fell in love with a mulatto piratess and basically I become captain Jack Sparrow

>>72609336
That's because you can't speak anything other than Spanish (and you haven't had colonies in a while, so there's not a tone of emigration culture from 2 generation back).

Also, obligatory:
>Departugal

>>72623223
spotted the filthy terrone
no, it's not

>>72608241
1. Iceland
2. they don't know English