/lang/ - Language Learning Thread

>learned for an hour yesterday instead of doing nothing
Feels good

>>72564543
>http://www.effectivelanguagelearning.com/language-guide/language-difficulty
>>Check out information about languages and their difficulties

>Finnish is in Cat IV with an asterisk
Really? I always thought that was in the same ball park as Swedish and Norwegian.

>>72567042
Finnish is not Germanic. It has those suffixes where a word becomes way longer.

any good stuff for French? I want to read some shit but I'm not too good yet. would like children's books or easy comics or news specially made for learners and the like.

>>72567397
http://www.childrenslibrary.org/icdl/SimpleSearchCategory?ids=&pnum=1&cnum=1&text=&lang=English&ilangcode=en&ilang=English&langid=12&OK=OK

>>72567042
Its bullshit. Only putting in 600 hours into any language is atrocious and will leave you sounding like an abortion, especially dutch. Futhermore, material availability and intelligibility are vastly more important than grammar or pronunciation differences. Norwegians speak english to one another because their dialects are so different while vietnamese is objectively one of the clearest-sounding languages in the world because of its tones, even if ugly.
I'm learning bengali for example and it's near impossible to understand without significant context and familiarity with its grammar quirks even with full transliteration. On top of that, there are next to 0 resources available to learn from and their pronunciation is complete aids even on radio and news. If I had chosen to learn mandarin, I would be able to read, speak, and understand when listening over 5000 hanzi by now

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>>72567042
Nope. Our language is less related to those languages than English is to Hindi.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finno-Ugric_languages

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Can a native speaker please help me with my fingolian. I feel like I still make grammatical mistakes.

What do you think of pimsleur?

>>72564543
What's wrong with duolingo? I've been finding it very useful. If you already have experience of learning languages it's a great tool

>>72571466
It's a really good way to start off whatever language your learning as it helps with pronunciation immensely.

Also this anon from Hungary asked in previous thread for some help for his French to see if he made any mistakes.Here was his post


"Rivebois, une très belle ville, a une rivière à gauche. Elle est droite, avec deux rochers qui sont implantés dedans qui le divisent en trois. Leur eau est limpide, et il n’y a aucun saleté ou crasse dont vue ça ferait sembler dangereux de boire. Mais à droite, il reste une montagne énorme, qui tient du brouillard devant elle-même. Elle semble méchante, car c’est le plus haut point dans Bordeciel. Je ne vois rien derrière la brume blanche couvrant la structure, et en ajoutant la bruine, c’est un mauvais temps pour visiter cette ville. Avant de l'entrée on passe des petits arbres à côté de la berge de rivière, étant envahis par plusieurs types du champignon, avant que l’on aperçoive la rue pavée qui nous emmène vers le centre de la ville. Devant le portail en bois, il reste un campement afin de garder les soldats heureux. Dedans, on trouve deux casseroles, une vide et une rempli avec une ragoût de venaison aux pommes de terres, suspendu au-dessus d’un feu de camp allumé et vraiment chaud. Quelques sacs de couchage douillets sont en laissés autour aussi.
En suivant la rue, on entre la ville. À gauche, un quai lie la ville à une petite île au cœur de la rivière. À l’île, on peut trouver un billot devant un nombreux tas de bois vert, car il est couvert par la mousse. Dessus, une hache reste enracinée, attendant jusqu’à ce que les bois, ou les criminels périssent. À droite de ça, un bûcheron charge les bois sur la scierie, une planche longue qui en a une lame au bout."

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It's a start.

>>72568066
>Norwegians speak english to one another because their dialects are so different
Have you fucking lost your mind? When's the next episode of "Me talking about shit I know nothing about"?

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>>72574915
Good job boy.
>>72576158
That's some funny shit though you gotta admit.

>>72569543
>Enets (50)
RIP

>>72572685
lots of mistakes and weirdness
but also words I don't know (/ω＼)

>>72574915
MEHMET UIT, RIEEEEEEEEEE

>>72574915

How are you finding it? I've been interested in turkish when i heard how logical and consistent the grammar is. Unfortunately i don't have any interests in turkish or turkey.

After watching how to be successful by Metatron I really got going in my life.
For a few weeks now, I have been going to the gym 3 times a week,
I have been learning at least 15 minutes of languages a day
I have been learning to cook 1 new recipe every week!

>>72572685
Thanks /int/bro,

I finally got a response from reddit, which showed how much I still have to learn in french :)

At least now I now know how to improve!
But thanks for trying to help me anyway.

You post here so often, how many languages do you know/are you learning right now?

>>72578320
I just know two Turkish/English.Been learning Swedish for six months or so, I'm somewhere between b1/b2 right now trying to improve but it's slow as fuck once you reach a certain level to improve even slightly lmao

>>72578490
Damn, I'm in the same boat then.
I know Hungarian/English, and I'm at a B1/B2 in French. Sucks knowing you already learnt the grammar rules and the fun stuff is over right?

>>72578490
how does a Turk decide to learn Swedish?

>>72578788
I can't say I've mastered them but mostly yeah, I'm trying to work on listening nowadays.

>>72579737
Pure coincidence.I only had access to Swedish material at the time so I went with it.If it was something else I would have picked that.

For all my niggas struggling on pronouncing French

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc_X4HoQoeU&list=PLBZcHkPESuK-2a6SHfP45aJSGp8a3dxwP

/lang/ Telegram group:
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/lang/ Discord:
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bump
Also

http://pastebin.com/erQ4tFqP
>Few more resources that didn't fit into OP

>>72576158
I have met many norwegians and it is common for them to speak english across dialects. Even so, "norwegian" doesn't really exist and as such cannot be learned without significant cultural immersion unless one just wants to shitpost on norgetråden

>>72586544
>it is common for them to speak english across dialects
Maybe because you, an American, were with them in the room? I'm sorry, but that claim is just so blatantly false, I have to emphasize it. Never in my life have I myself done that, or ever met anyone who claimed to have ever done it. That is completely bogus.

There are very few dialects which are so far out we struggle to understand each other. Mostly rural parts of Sogn og Fjordane, and even then, most people can understand them, certainly without having to use English.

>>72569543
Heard a girl sing in Udmurtian once. Beautiful as fuck.

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Is anyone here anoyed by learning the grammar?

I mean i speak Serbian fluently and i don't know even half of the grammar rules.

Same for English, when i was younger i learned grammar, then videos and text just basically became understandable, and now after a lot of years i can speak english, not exacly 100% fluently, but with good degree of mastery, but still i can't remember most of the grammar in my head, what I read and say/write just comes out naturaly.

And now about a month ago i started learning Russian(It's not as easy even through i am a Serbian/slav, they lack "is","are" etc...) and i have realized how annoying grammar actually is, though without it you cannot comprehend and speak language.

Idk this started as a question, now it's clearly a barbling rant. Russian grammar is Serbian all over again, just one case less and diferent rules.

Anyway to end this bullshit, wish you all luck on your learning path.

Does anyone else find duolingo absolutely worthless? I used to recommend it as a introduction but i completed the italian course and learned virtually nothing. All my italian comes from assmil and pimsleur not duo.

>>72586707
This reminds me of people on the internet, usually burgers, who says stuff like "Slovak students in Charles university in Prague now have to use English with the Czech students because the languages are no longer mutually intelligible" fucking bullshit lol, just because a few little kids in Prague have some problems understanding Slovak words that differ from Czech does not mean students are gonna speak fucking English to each other, in fact one reason why Slovak people go study in Czech republic is that they don't really have to know a foreign language.

>>72594406
>assmil
Good choice. I'm doing that for Spanish now and find it useful for improving listening comprehension.

>>72591611
>Serbia
vid related, best music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKiB8-2LK6s

>>72564543
Interesting. So the closest language to English is Frisian and then Dutch.
Still quite far away, we're much closer to German.

>>72578213
>how logical and consistent the grammar is
yeah cause it's a made up language with no history
>angry turks incoming

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>>72591611
jesus christ anon I am learning russian too

that pic is just the thing I searched for
thank you very much četnikfag

>>72567397
Le Petit Prince.
Every young french reads it, at least I hope they do.

absolute constructions are objectively the best grammatical constructions in any language.