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Cornucopia of Resources / Guide
Read the guide before asking questions.
http://djtguide.neocities.org/

Special /int/ FAQ:
>What's the point of this thread?
For learners of Japanese to come and ask questions and shitpost with other learners. Japanese people learning English can come too I guess.
>Why is it here?
The mods moved us here and won't let us go anywhere else.
>Why not use the pre-existing Japanese thread?
The cultures are completely different.
>Go back to /a/
There's the door

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>>72191576
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thx 4 thrad
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where can I meet cute nippon girls?
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What are you doing for Howaito Dei?
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>>72275324
hello talk
interpals
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>>72275395
I will give something in return to all the 0 girls who gave me chocolate!
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>>72275395
I'll give a coffee grinder to my gf
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>>72273401
I'm glad somebody else is using these. I think they're perfect for new learners.
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>>72275840
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>>72275840
I just downloaded them, the Level 1 one gives me a zip file - When I unzip that, it gives me a .zip.cpgz file. When I unzip that, it gives me a .zip file again and it keeps looping like that
what do
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>>72276054
you downloaded malware. run a scan on your machine.
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>>72276054
I can't vouch for the files
I owned the books physically at one point
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>>72276054
Probably what >>72276121 said, I just unzipped and it worked fine.
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>>72276121
>>72276149
I used a different program to extract and it gave me the proper folder
It couldn't be malware because I'm on a mac :^)
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>>72273401
>>72275840
Jesus, that first story was depressing.
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>>72276196
>mac
white and based
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Do Japanese people really call each other by their last names? Or is that just in anime/manga.
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>>72276454
Your question was retarded and you should feel stupid for asking it here instead of just googling it.
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チンコを男の後ろに入れりたい
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>>72276512
Google takes to much energy
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>>72276454
>Do Japanese people really call each other by their last names?
What's wrong with that?
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>>72276454
You have to be close to someone to use their first name otherwise it's disrespectful
It's an honor culture thing where families are more important than the individual
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h-help with sentence construction

'これは字の侍ですあ'


これは正しいですか
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>>72275395
I got a cookie from my coworker.
It was sakura-flavored.
おいしかったよ
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>>72276780
I don't know what you want to say, sorry.
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>>72276404
Yeah.
They're all famous Japanese stories so it's a good way to get acquainted with the culture too.
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>>72276780
「これは侍という字ですか?」
「これは侍という字です」
かな?
I have no idea what you want to say, sorry.
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>>72277087
>>72277138

apologies.

This is the kanji/character for samurai, i think i fucked up
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>>72277169
Then you want to use >>72277138 's
>これは侍という字です。
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Does knowledge of hanja and hanji carry over to kanji?
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>be me in English class
>always suspected one of the students was hiding a certain power level
>dude's short, fat, pale, has a shitty haircut, a neckbeard, speaks autistically, and smells like shit
>reviewing preposition words (shit like "good for" or "important to")
>have to write two sentences using these words
>teacher gets to him
>he reads his paper
>"I'm good at drawing anime"
>60 year old woman asks him what anime is
>starts explaining to her what anime and manga are
Found a weeaboo in the wild, guys!
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>>72278359
Pretty much, I think. The only problems I can think of (Other than pronounciation) are that the Chinese might use kanji the Japanese don't use (and viceversa) and that IIRC the Japanese use the simplified script, so if you know Cantonese you're fucked.
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>>72278414
How old are you, 15? Back in the day everyone watched anime.
Hell, even my brother who is from 1999 had his monkey normie friends from public school recommend him Nanatsu no Taizai, so I wonder if the culture is still alive and I've just managed to transcend all human contact.
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>>72278470
No, Japanese uses mostly traditional variants, with the several hundred simplified ones being really common anyway (学, 会, etc.)
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>>72276054
It opened fine for me.
Try re-downloading.
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>>72279009
Then I suppose that must be exclusively a macaco thing because the most anime the average person watched here in Argentina is Dragon Ball Z when they were kids.
>>72279014
Well, guess I was wrong then.
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>>72279310
B-but spics are also a major weeb powerhouse when it comes to animay piracy, subbing, being retarded on Facebook and whatnot.

Maybe Argentina was left out of the loop, but I'm sure Chile and Peru has lots of weebs.
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>>72279496
Don't get me wrong, there is a radioactive amount of weebs in Argentina, but it's nowhere near as dense as Chile. Idk, maybe it's just the area I live in (It's a fairly normie town).
The only other weeb I met irl was some edgelord who went to my school 3 years below me who shared emo cancer on facebook and had L Lawliet as his profile pic.
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>>72276454
When you think about it, it makes perfect sense. Amongst your family it's your given name that identifies you, in other groups it's your family name that best identifies you.
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>>72277095
What, even ジョンさん日本へ?
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>>72277058
What does Sakura flavor taste like? Cherries?
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Does 「毎人」

mean everyone/each person?
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おはよう?今日スレドはすごく静かだよね…
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What's the word for "coast" in Japanese? Every dictionary I've checked is giving me multiple alternatives. I'm looking for a word referring to "the country's coast", like how we say "west/east coast" in English.
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I've never seen such a combination, 毎 and 人. I may guess its meaning and understand it like either 毎秒, 毎分, 毎時 (per second, minute, hour) or 毎回, 毎晩, 毎朝(each time, every night, every morning). but I would ignore it and forget it soon because that's an insignificant thing.
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>>72284416
west coast 西海岸
east coast 東海岸
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>>72284448
thanks!
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How do you guys use SRS?

Say you have 500 kanjis on your belt, and is to add 50 today, would you review all 550 today? eventually reaching 2500 kanjis in one day? and do you plan to do this everyday?
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>>72283510
Relevant:
https://djt.neocities.org/bunpou/full_day.html#毎・まい
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>>72284752
Maybe lookup HOW it works a little first, then try out a software that implements it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaced_repetition

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leitner_system

https://apps.ankiweb.net/
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>>72284914
Will do thank you.

but does SRS really work for everyone? I heard Tae Kim not recommending it?
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>>72285130
Theoretically yes, since it takes the concept of the "forgetting curve" and implements reviews in the most efficient way.

However, not everyone has the patience / focus to go through with all of their reviews each day, as is required. Keeping a schedule can be tough for some, which makes language learning tough regardless of using an SRS system or not. There's also the problem of decks becoming super large after a few years and needing to trim them down some.

These are very small prices to pay for efficient study though, it should work unless you have literal brain problems? Not sure how a learning curve of a mentally retarded person would look, might be exactly the same.
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>>72285297
>There's also the problem of decks becoming super large after a few years and needing to trim them down some.
How do you trim it down?
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>>72285371
Re-evaluate what you really need to be reviewing (stuff you encounter often anyways), cut out cards with like 3+ years duration till next review. Cut out cards that are plain boring, or outdated etc.
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>>72285297
ありがとう
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Is there any effective difference between ⻏ and ⻖other than its position in the kanji? Both Heisig and Jisho list them as separate radicals.
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What is this から doing there?
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>>72283510
>each person
各人(かくじん)
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>>72286708
https://djt.neocities.org/bunpou/full_night.html#%E3%8A%A6%E3%81%8B%E3%82%89(2)
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>>72289062
No answer there to be found.
Where's the fucken verb after から?
It would have been perfectly fine with me if it were like 霊夢の帰りを待ってから出掛けたの方がいい
But what verb does の方がいい , in the pic, refer to?
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>>72286708
>>72290205
>霊夢の帰り
What did she mean by this?
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>>72290368
Reimu's return
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>>72290723
Got the context to the rest of the scene?
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>>72290205
>"can someone help me with X?"
>is given the answer to X
>"wow what the fuck there's no answer to Y here"
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>>72290948
What's your point?
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ハァ~
化学宿題を完成した!
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>>72286708
Wait, a sec, I think I finally got it. It's the form of から that means "because". You don't need to state both clauses in a から sentence if it's something that's already known, but you still need から at the end of the clause.
>>72291221
I was trying to see if I could deduce what she was talking about.
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>>72291116
から makes no sense there without a verb that is supposed to follow, doesn't it?
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>>72259621
The reason I said "pretend to study" is because I'm drowning in work for all of my other classes on top of self-studying Japanese. Playing a game like that in Japanese would let me screw around for a bit without feeling like it's a total waste of time.
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Anyone fluent in dick-in-mouth-while-speaking Japanese?

ふあひめふぇて

Any ideas?
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>>72291223
おめでとう、アノンくん!まだアンキのレップを終えない。
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>>72291242
>I was trying to see if I could deduce what she was talking about.
I suppose she says sumfink like "I guess we should have waited for Reimu".
Which I think should look like 霊夢の帰りを待ったの方がいい
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>>72291519
>Anyone fluent in dick-in-mouth-while-speaking Japanese?
Might have better luck if you just linked us to whatever you heard that in.
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>>72291333
It does. の following particles can't be new thing for you, this is like that.
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>>72291794
That's the nominalizing の, correct?
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>>72291333
て-form + から means "after doing X."
It's the から that means "from," not "because."

帰ってから宿題をする
To do homework after going home.

霊夢の帰りを待ってからの方がいい
After waiting for Reimu to come home is better (than doing it before she comes home)
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>>72291853
No, as a noun, 方, follows it.
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>>72291794
I think I get it now.
Just couldn't imagine 方がいい without the preceding の
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>>72291929
>not "because."
I don't recall insisting on this.
>After waiting for Reimu to come home is better
Thks!
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>>72292219
The because part was for the Argentine, sorry
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>>72291988
Shit, you're right, don't know how I could miss that.
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>>72291242
>I was trying to see if I could deduce what she was talking about.
Ok
I just thought you were heavily implying something.
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>Just had to completely delete the Katakana deck because I came back to 120 cards to review and didn't know the answer to a single one.

Man... Jap...is...hard..
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>>72279009
Well, there's a significant difference between "I watch anime" and "I watched DBZ, Saint Seiya, Rurouni Kenshin and Yu Yu Hakusho when I was a kid".
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>>72293766
>Katakana
>Hard
How? Even me, the retard, learned it. Vocabulary (that has kanji in it) however makes me want to off myself desu. Can't memorize shit. Keep relearning old words everyday. Even knowing the radicals doesn't really help me that much. It's like trying to memorize thousands of pictures that all have their own meanings and a specific way to say them. Learning Russian and English was piss easy since there are proper alphabets.
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>>72294294
I came back to it after like 6 months. I managed to recognize a lot of the Hiragana and only had to practice 1/3 of it. I know all Hira now, but Kata is just.

I memorize what a character is by using mnemonic devices. So for example the n character looks like a man sticking his penis inside of a woman in the doggy style position. I imagine the sound he makes as he does this is nnnn.

A lot of the Katakana is just A FUCKING BOX. And that's hard for me to. I also have aphantasia btw.
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>>72283510
>>72284860
>the following phrases are all unacceptable because the nouns following 毎 do not indicate a time or period of time.
>a. *毎人 every person

I call bullshit. These niggas lack poetry in their hearts.

"Her heart was like wind, indomitable. She would blow into people's lives and just as soon go away. But with every person, her soul grew wearier and bitterer."

Wouldn't 毎人 here be appropriate, describing ephemeral relationships?
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>>72293855
No, every class in my school had its otaku nucleus, and I was living on a tiny-ass hillbilly town.

Things like Death Note, FMA, Lucky Star, Angel Beats, Naruto, One Piece, Bleach, Soul Eater were well known, to mention a few.

It was as common as finding people who played Ragnarok/Tibia/CS/Mu Online.
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>>72294460
I remember back in France, there were some who studied Japanese for 4+ years who couldn't remember katakana for shit because of a bad case of no exposure
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>>72294812
Huh.
My experience was totally different, probably because I went to school in RS where Japanese culture isn't as prominent, so I hid my power level.. And now that I live in SP I don't have any friends so I just continue to hide my power level.
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>>72294812
>Things like Death Note, FMA, Lucky Star, Angel Beats, Naruto, One Piece, Bleach, Soul Eater were well known, to mention a few.
That's not weeb, that's just normie otaku stuff. Everyone who isn't a normie tincho who goes out clubbing every weekend has heard of those shows.
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>>72295270
Dang.. I guess those boxes are dangerous to everyone.

Wait a second why does this new guide say nothing about learning Katakana? It seems to suggest that I go on over to learning the vocabulary after I've learned Hiragana.
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>>72296121
But it does.

>Katakana is also important, but it's fine to move on to the next step without having as firm of a grasp on katakana.
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Is there a reason why 牛 and 失う look and sound as similar as they do?
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>>72295471
>That's not weeb, that's just normie otaku stuff.
Well, you were the one all flustered because you heard a fatso saying "I am good at drawing anime" in the first place, why the suddenly high standards?

>>72295418
Eh, my few RS friends back in the day were weebs, one was obsessed with Shakugan no Shana. But I met them on the Internet, so there's already a filter going on.
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>>72296846
Wait until you reach 牛,午
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>>72297087
I wasn't complaining that they're hard to tell apart or anything, I was just wondering if there's any reason to them both having うし in their reading and both having the same top section in their kanji
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>tfw had meningitis so I was hospitalised for ~10 days
>couldn't do Anki since I wasn't allowed electonic devices
>2000+ Cards due
AHHHHHHHH
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>>72297451
Maybe now you can actually learn Japanese
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>>72296121
>those boxes
What boxes?
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>>72297451
Look on the bright side, if you lived in America you would be down a few thousand dollars as well.
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>>72297648
Those boxes that don't at all resemble humans, just boxes. If they don't resemble anything I can't anthropormophize into a human, it's hard as fuck for me to memorize it.

The strokes often look like humans in various positions. Like ka for example. Ka kind of looks like a guy leaning on his katana, sword side down on the ground. That's how I remembered it..
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>>72297950
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>>72298032
Yes.. at last you truly see.
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>>72298175
I personally learnt my katakana from writing them down 50 times each bitch and using realkana for like a week
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How do I shitpost in Japanese? What is the equivalent of "what a FUCK man xDDDDD"
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>>72297950
If this is causing you legit grief there is a heisig book for kana IIRC
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>>72298489
Ah that looks cool. Yeah may have to rely on that. I can hardly visualize images, so remembering what a bunch of characters look like is impossible without tricks.
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佩刀

Rare kanjis
Get um while they're hot
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>>72298703
>刀
>Rare
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>>72298822
I obviously just meant the first one
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>>72297514
I'm don't think that I've developed amazing nip learning abilities in the last 10 days, maybe if my head gets hit by a football.
>>72297803
I don't know what is worse, losing money or sitting through endless Anki sessions.
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>>72299027
>obviously
>kanjis
>um
>they're
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Japanese posters, please work on your engrish so I can actually understand what the fuck you are trying to say
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>>72299110
pls no bully japanman
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>>72299102
Learn not to take everything you read so seriously fuck boy, it just sounds better plural
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>Yfw that isn't supposed to be Dケ
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>>72294460
>I know all Hira now, but Kata is just.
This is officially the most disgusting and underaged sentence ever written on the DJT.

Please give up on Japanese.

>>72299430
KOREANS OUT!
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>>72299544
How is that sentence disgusting or underaged?
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>>72299430
>>72299544
What does it say?
>>72299607
>Saying "Hira" and "Kata" instead of "Hiragana" and "Katakana"
>just
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>>72299754
Just what? I forgot to finish my sentence, so it ended at just. What is the problem? What is wrong with abbreviation?
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>>72299754
口aily ケapanese 丁hread.
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>>72299839
Your write uh I don't even.
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>>72299846
>using chinese characters as roman letters
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>>72299754
ロケ
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>>72282962
It's like flowers, but not strong. There are many sakura-flavored foods and drinks available in this season.
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How do I say well?

Like:

Well [pause]

or

Well, that's not entirely true.
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>>72303114
I would assume it's either えと or あの.
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Someone tell me if these sentences I made make any sense.
>月曜日に仕事に行きます。

>先週は始めに仕事行きました。

>私の背中いたいます。
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>>72303114
What about まあ?
>Well, that's not entirely true.
まあ、ちょっと違いますけど
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>>72303114
>>72303319
Also まあ, depending on context.

>>72303721
背中がいたい。
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>>72303721
>始めに仕事行きました
This feels pretty weird.
>いたいます
The polite form of an い-adjective is いたいです. Informal is just the adjective.
Also, I'd cut down a little on polite constructions.
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>>72303721
I think 初めて仕事に行きました would be better.
始めに means "at the beginning."
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アウルスェルヴィジィ
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alright lads, I'm about my 4th or 5th day in anki vocab, and right now I know what some kanji are by looking at them, but I don't remember how to say them

Is this normal? I'm writing them down, , I write them 5 times each if I get it wrong. Also I'll be in akamonkai in october, so theres that.
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>>72306165
If you've had no contact with Japanese before, might be normal. I had an easier time because I already knew lots of weeb stuff and karaoke songs, so I knew what kinds of words/sound combinations to expect.

Lately (I'm at 8800 words) I've been doing a daily custom study of "Forgotten Cards" (last 2 days) before going to bed (I usually do Anki when I wake up), and it seems to be helping with retention. Give it a try.
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>>72304735
それはどう言う意味?
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Cons for actually picking up a japanese book and focusing on japanese studies:
>every resource is terrible despite the market being saturated with them
>already know the fundamentals from the beginning of these books
>will probably get fed up and quit anyway
>if I go far enough I'll find out why I quit in the first place

Pros for focusing on japanese studies and not just consuming media and picking up things as I go:
>???
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What are some good websites to get raw manga? If possible, have they be Japanese websites, none of that baka gaijin shit
>>72308395
I know you're probably joking (At least a little) but that's actually how I achieved almost perfect fluency in english. English class is almost worthless for me, I never learn anything new (The only reason I still go is because my teacher insists in helping me prepare for tests and my parents foot the bill anyway so the only thing I lose is time), everything I know, I know it because I read it on the internet or heard it on a show. I even noticed my speaking improved simply because I hear english so often. I assume a similar process would apply to japanese.
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>>72308583
>ONLY thing I lose is time
Single handedly the most important one
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>>72308630
It's just an hour a week and I do literally nothing other than sit on my ass reading manga anyway.
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I just noticed while listening to that utada hikaru song that goes ha ha ha ha road that 帰り道 means 'the road home'.
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>>72308630
Also, I was going to quit but the teacher asked me to stay at least until I can do the First Certificate, so I said "fuck it, it's just a couple months left".
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Correct my English (>人<;)
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Here, I corrected a few mistakes:
>The Fourteenth of March (Or just March 14th)
>A book that talks about game theory
>I'm very tired because... (The period is unnecessary)
>"I stayed there for seven hours" sounds more natural
>I went to the city station (I'm not sure what that is, but if there's only of those in the city)
>"and joined my friends", you don't need the "I" there
>"They bought clothes and in return for the chocolate of Valentine's Day" no idea what you're trying to say here
>The period before "Whilw I bought nothing" is unnecessary, use a comma instead
>We walked to the next station
>one of my friends needed to take the train there (Remove "And", and you don't need to repeat location if it's already established)
>Besides, we felt like talking more
>"Because I had changed schools" flows better
>This is for improving my reading skills
There may be a couple more mistakes but I'm too tired to make them out. がんばってください!
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>>72310015
Sorry, left a sentence incomplete
>I went to the city station (I'm not sure what that is, but if there's only of those in the city, you refer to it with a "the")
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>>72309754
The Fourteenth of March
I went to a city library. I borrowed a book on Game Theory. I'm very tired, because I stayed there for seven hours. Afterward, I went to a station in the city to join my friends. We shopped there until nine o'clock. They bought clothes and gifts to give in return for their Valentine's Day chocolate. Meanwhile, I bought nothing. We walked to the next station together since my home is in the same direction and one of my friends needed to take the train from that station. Besides, we felt like talking more. They talked about their classmate's courses after graduation. But I wasn't interested in the subject because I had commuted to another high school. And I'm home now. This is my first experience keeping a diary in English. This is for the sake of improving my English skills. Thank you for reading.
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>>72298703
i read dies irae too
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>>72310015
>>72310348
Thank you for correcting! I feel like encouraging me!
I'm going to keep a daily every day. However I am worried about whether l can meet experience deserved to keep from now on lol. But I'm enjoyable(ᵔᴥᵔ)
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>>72311317
画像を九十度回ってください
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三百六十度を回って歩き去る
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Hey DJT thinking about going to Japan this fall for around 21 days.
I'm learning Japanese for around 1 year now, I want to see how far I get when I actually try to talk to Japanese people.

It's not my first time in Japan, I spent 2 weeks in Tokyo 2 years ago.
Now there is still stuff left to do in Tokyo that I couldn't do the first time around, but I don't want to stay the whole 21 days there.
I'm considering staying 10 days in Tokyo and 10 days in Osaka or Kyoto.

What do you guys think, good idea or not?

What is there to do in Kyoto or Osaka? Any cool shows or comfy restaurants / bars you can recommend?

(Sorry I guess this is only semi related to DJT but I figured this is the best place to ask)
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>>72286708

how do you get jp subs on your animu?
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>>72313172
It isn't mine
https://youtu.be/QHsgXLiNuwM
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>>72303114
まあ or うーん/んー
うーん is how i use it in such a context. うーん、それは必ずしも事実とは限らない/正しくない

this うーん/んー is a bit different from hmmmm... it expresses your hesitation/unconvinced attitude to the other guy
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>>72313172
If you meant jap subs in general, try looking for the ones you need here
http://kitsunekko.net/dirlist.php?dir=subtitles%2Fjapanese%2F
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>>72312996
Tokyo is for faggots.
Come to Fukuoka.
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>>72316464
I'd love to visit Yakushima.
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everyone reading well today?

my anki motivation has been very low these days.

japan-israel baseball on tv. i don't understand this sport. at least japan is in the lead.
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>>72320364
>everyone reading well today?
Karl Marx is pretty difficult even in russian.
Japanese reading will be later towards the evening.
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>>72308583
>What are some good websites to get raw manga?
To buy or pirate?
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>>72321115
Oh wow, you're reading Marx in Japanese? That sounds pretty cool, wish I could be at that point.
And while I'm at the topic, what is the general view on Marx in Russia? I know the Germans have a pretty positive view on him.
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>>72321345
Pirate.
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>>72321448
The CoR, nyaa. You can also make requests by commenting here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jcn7Z4tbdRblEGnq6jzfW_sc-cOekTSs_N8z7mqb8Uc/edit?usp=sharing
There are raw blog sites which pop up and shut down on a pretty frequent basis, which often have premium links to direct download sites. Those are notoriously unreliable.
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>>72321420
>wish I could be at that point.
So do I. That's why I'm reading it in russian.
>what is the general view on Marx in Russia?
Communists love him. Anticommunists hate him, but unable to criticize because most of them didn't ever read The Capital.
I'm among the first.
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>>72321420
>Oh wow, you're reading Marx in Japanese? That sounds pretty cool, wish I could be at that point.
Read the manga bro
https://www.amazon
.com/Capital-Manga-Karl-Marx/dp/1926958195
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Since we're talking about pirating manga: I have access to a certain online manga retailer's library, so if there's any manga out there that you can't find at all, then I might be able to get it. Quality isn't the best, but for reading purposes it's more than enough. Its selection also isn't the best either, so some manga that other sites might have, this one might not.
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>>72322090
Is there any way you could provide further information or populate some sort of a list of works or authors?
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>>72322148
I mean, I could theoretically crawl the site and generate a list, but I don't really want to give away too much info, especially with all the nips lurking. Being able to get most of what I want to read whenever I want has been extremely valuable to me, so I don't want to go too crazy and risk them noticing it. I just figured I'd throw it out there for people who have some manga they really want but can't find anywhere.
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>>72322480
Is this site reliable, as in it is going to be around for a while?
One issue is that by the time you go looking for something the torrents, if any, are long since dead and all of the DL links have been taken down by their hosting providers. Then you have a look online digital stores only to find out they don't have a digital copy.
Also, what sort of DRM does it use, for those looking to purchase manga from the place legitimately and rip it for themselves?
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>>72322637
I've been getting my manga from it for well over a year now, so I don't think it's going anywhere. Their DRM is naive and already has scripts out there for those who legitimately buy from it.
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>>72321834
>Communists love him. Anticommunists hate him, but unable to criticize because most of them didn't ever read The Capital.
So, exactly like the rest if the world, then.
>>72322067
That's amazing.
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>>72323103
Well that's reassuring.
Would you mind sharing either the name of the site or a hint? Not in the thread, obviously. This is a temporary redirect email I just created:
[email protected]
Don't mind paying for digital manga if I can rip it and read it how I prefer.
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>>72322090
子連れ狼, please for the love of god. I can't believe there aren't any raw scans floating around for such an immensely popular series.
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>>72323344
This series?
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%AD%90%E9%80%A3%E3%82%8C%E7%8B%BC
http://books.rakuten.co.jp/search/dt/g101/kseries%BB%D2%CF%A2%A4%EC%CF%B5/kpbls%A5%B0%A5%EB%A1%BC%A5%D7%A5%BC%A5%ED/
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>>72323597
Yeah, aka Lone Wolf & Cub.
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>>72323642
What's the difference between the collectors edition 子連れ狼愛蔵版 version, the original 子連れ狼 version and the 新子連れ狼 version?
http://pastebin.com/iqvajxrD
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>>72323778
>子連れ狼愛蔵版
Appears to be a more recent pressing. I did find scans for this (the ones you linked) but they're incomplete.
>新子連れ狼
Different series altogether.
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>>72323323
I'm a bit confused. For what reason do you want that? If it's to legitimately buy and rip it, isn't eBookJapan pretty much the de facto best site for that? Quality and selection is way better there than on the site I rip from.

>>72323344
It doesn't have it, unfortunately. Googling it gave me hits like the Aussie mentioned, and it seems like you can read it legitimately and for free here:
https://www.mangaz.com/book/detail/116874
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>>72322090
Does it have novels?
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>>72324119
>For what reason do you want that?
To have another online site to compare when buying digital raws. Not all of them have the same stock and their sales vary.
It shouldn't be a bit deal.

>isn't eBookJapan pretty much the de facto best site for that?
They're one of the worst in my opinion.
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>>72323127
>So, exactly like the rest if the world, then.
After a fashion.
However, the number of communists and their sympathizers is lot more than in other capitalist countries. The reason is - those people (including myself) caught a glimpse of USSR, even though the union had already been in its death throes thanks to the treason that led to deviation from the communist ideas proclaimed during the October Revolution.
There's also a number of elderly people who got to live there much longer than myself. They sure can compare the "bright" capitalist present with the "oh so scary totalitarian" regime of the USSR. They can see clearly what happened to our free medicine, free education, free housing; what happened to our factories and social securities.
Our present government consists of capitalist elements and their servants. They going out of their way to denigrate our soviet past and its great achievements. Mass media is spreading lies and half-truths about that period while praising the Tzar Nicolas II and the White Guard butchers. I too was once under the influence of this propaganda.
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>>72324119
>https://www.mangaz.com/book/detail/116874
Huh, thanks.
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>>72324174
It has LNs in image format. No actual novels though.

>>72324333
Sorry, but I'm very hesitant about just straight up giving the name of the store because of how much I value having access to all the books there. I can however pretty much guarantee you that it's considerably worse than EBJ in both image quality and selection, so if you think EBJ is bad, then this one's for sure worse.
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>>72314357

thanks, senpai
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>>72325165
Really nice thing you're doing man! You're a real djt(int) citizen/anon
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>>72279881
There are argentinian lots of anime weebs(I mean, I've seen lots in conventions and stuff like the Anime Friends).
But apparently there arent enough for many of us to find compatriots in our vicinity(The only ones I've met were created by me, and after we finished school without me there they've slowly normalized).
The other problem is there are a LOT of normalfags who watch 3 anime(DBZ, SNK, Nanatsu,Ruroini, Bleach, etc) or so, and most people are familiar with hentai, which can bait us into thinking they're weebs.
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>>72294460
Check out wanikani mnemonics for the katakana. Some are VERY helpful.
My problem with them is all the look alikes(I think most hiragana lookalikes are easy to tell apart, like ru and ro and you learn them fast cuz you see ru in most verbs). But katakana isnt all that common so you dont get as much exposure and those look alikes really fuck with your mind(Reading a whole sentence in kata is like ripping out teeth)
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>>72295471
Yeah, but they're deeper than Naruto/DBZ. I agree it's not tatami galaxy level tho. Still, i would be happy to meet some low power level pleebs
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>>72298258
Nama sensei is that you?
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ココココンボブレーカー!
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>次の仕事も探さず、俺はただぼんやりと過ごしていた。
I had a question about whether or not the second 「も」 in the DoJG could take a verb that isn't in its Vmasu form but halfway through typing that I realized that 「たんさ」 exists.

So now I have two questions. First, the beginning of this sentence roughly means "without searching for another job" right? Second, which word and in what form is 「探さず」?
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>>72327331
探す in the old negative form. Strictly speaking it means the same thing as 探さない but because ず can be both the 終止形 and the 連用形 it is often used to mean "without," similar to ~ないで.

>次の仕事も探さず、
Without searching for your next job...
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>>72328195
Alright I see. So then the も there is the emphatic も right? As in "without even searching for your next job"?
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What websites do you guys use to learn Japanese?
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here is a paragraph i found interesting, with the subject changes.

それから何度も別れ、何でもやり直した。
決定的に駄目になった事件がこれといってあったわけではない。きっかけはささいなことだったと思う。吹雪がわたしの前で夫のことを「うちのキヨが」と無神経に呼んでしまったり、浴室のゴミ箱でコンドームの袋を見つけてしまったり、それを問い詰めると子供にもバレる嘘をぬけぬけとついたり、頭にきてわたしのほうが一緒に見ようと約束していたビアンものの映画をネット仲間の他の女の子と見に行ったら彼女が激怒してどろどろの修羅場になったり、そういうことが積み重なっただけでなく、これまでの有形無形の不信や嫉妬の堆積に疲れ果てて、ついにわたしがキレてしまったのだ。

>>72328462
yes
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>>72329364
Thank you.
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>>72329364
>何でもやり直した
*何度も
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>>72325165
Is there any reliable way to make requests of things anons cannot find raws of?
Say if someone quotes the op with the manga series and mangaka, with a wiki link or some form or reference, asking if Norway anon could help out, would that be a good way to seek you out in your unique position?

>it's considerably worse than EBJ in both image quality and selection, so if you think EBJ is bad, then this one's for sure worse.
With these larger online digital stores they aren't really the ones responsible for the scan quality. It usually depends on the publisher and who they have used for the digitalisation. The more expensive volumes tend to have their scans handled by bookwalker, for instance, and the manner in which they do their ebooks is the same across stores. After a while you can tell if the scan is going to be of a decent quality by the folders present when their ebook is stripped and converted to a standard archived folder.
The cheaper ones tend to use the older Open eBook Publication Structure ebook structure while the more expensive ones tend to use a newer standard for Bookwalker, by Kadakawa publishers.
It's one of the reasons why cheaper manga volumes on websites tend to be, well, cheaper and why they are often lower in quality: due to using an outdated license free ebook publication format compared to the more expensive volumes which involve the newer but also proprietary system by Kadakawa. It's a bit shit that once again draconian Japanese corporate policies are hurting the consumer unnecessarily.
Most of that was off on a tangent, just one of those things a lot of people probably don't realise. Ebook publication is a complete mess thanks largely due a few corporations holding it back.
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What's the best source for mining words from real content online?
>inb4 compelling content

Manga and light novels I either need to ocr, search the radicals, or rely on furigana. Manga has the additional problem of providing a lower density of new words which is problematic when you want to add 40/day.
Anime is worse in density of new words and many series don't have jap subs on kitsunekko, and I'm still at the below beginner stage.

The only thing I can think of is online newspaper, but do I really want to learn the word 米司法省? The lexicon of newspapers is immense too, it would probably take years before I started to make sense of anything without yomichan, and the grammar is probably pretty different from any other kind of source that I might want to consume in the future (manga, anime, LN).

what do
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>>72331313
I don't think it's a good idea to mine words just to fill a quota. Try reading light novels in text format instead of scans, or VNs with a texthooker.
>The only thing I can think of is online newspaper, but do I really want to learn the word 米司法省?
Mining efficiently is also important. To answer your question: no, but you want to learn the word司法, which can be used with the prefix 米 and the suffix 省.
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Do you have the raws for Ajin, Norway anon?
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>>72330539
>would that be a good way to seek you out in your unique position?
Sure, that's fine. I'm always reading this thread, so that should work out just fine. I also use minagokkoアットgmailドットcom for 4chan stuff, so there's that.

Interesting info about the digital stores there, but in this case, I imagine the store is also partially at fault. Like multiple others as well, they process the images as part of the DRM. Instead of applying some sort encryption, they scramble the images themselves and then save them as JPEG. This creates a lot of edges around the images where you normally wouldn't have them, so when you unscramble them, you get a lot of artifacts you normally wouldn't get. It's not really noticeable for B&W pages, but for manga covers and colored pages, it can get pretty bad.

Here's the cover of a random manga I ripped the other day. You get these annoying lines here and there that shouldn't be there.

>>72332003
Yeah, I can get them for you. Give me some minutes to rip and upload.
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>>72332003
https://mega.nz/#F!29ABySaD!ctLwdKSh5jv2IKtTEeOS3A
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>>72332084
>>72333110
Thanks
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>>72331313
>Manga has a lower density of new words
>I'm still at the below beginner stage
Pick one. I'm 9k words into Core and I encounter a new word every other page when reading baby-tier mango.

If you know so many words, maybe it's time to focus on grammar a bit and fill the gap between the two skills.
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>Feel free to let others in the /int/ djt threads know they can make requests via this spreadsheet. They may not get immediate response but I'll get back to them eventually.
So if you have a manga/LN request: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jcn7Z4tbdRblEGnq6jzfW_sc-cOekTSs_N8z7mqb8Uc/
As always thanks enormously Australian friend I love you
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>>72336580
>I'm 9k words into Core

This is your problem. You're not mining. You could be reading manga comfortably by now if you replaced 1-2k of those Core words with mined words from relevant genres.
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>>72336580
It's just what I encounter. With kino no tabi I can get 40 new words in a couple of pages, but with manga 10 words take an eternity.
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>only 3 days since I've started doing anki
>haven't even finished reading tae kim's basic grammar section yet
>started reading Yotsubato anyway
I should probably read through Tae Kim first, right?
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>>72340310
Yeah, you won't have the required framework otherwise.
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>>72339896
I'm not complaining, it's just an anecdote.

>>72340310
Read the basic grammar section and you're good to go (at least the first two volumes, using the reading pack).
Then I advise you finish reading the guide before proceeding.
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>>72341425
>I'm not complaining, it's just an anecdote.

I'm just saying that if you target your study towards a specific type of material, it starts feeling easier at a much lower skill level. So it's definitely reasonable for certain manga to not feel hard vocab-wise as a beginner.
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>>72339896
That BR only did it for bragging rights, he mentions that he's at 9k words in every goddamned post he makes. Just disregard his internet pea-cocking.
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>>72340563
>>72341425
So when do I start with Kanji?
Should I learn all the basic grammar first or should I have started right after the kana?
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>>72341556
>when do I start with Kanji?
A-aren't you doing Anki already?

>>72341529
There are no peas in my cock, only burgers in my ass.

I will only start bragging once I learn Japanese (what's more, the Ankidrone way). I repeat myself a lot, yes, but that's just because I am a highly functioning aspie. I work things out better via comparison. That and I spend too much time in these threads.

But you guys are what motivate me, so that's alright.
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>>72341927
So I should've started already
Kill me in my sleep
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What is the purpose of と in this sentence?

寿司と美味しいです。

Context: at 0:35
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5bMr_0Zoc0
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>people writing 早く when it should be 速く
Why is this allowed?
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>>72343011
It probably shows up before 速く so, laziness.
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>>72342720
Havent seen the video, but probably "(something) is good with sushi"?
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>>72343199
It's just that, there is no something
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>>72343246
I saw the clip, and he doesn't say "寿司と美味しいです", he says "寿司調理師(ちょうりし)です"
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>>72343011
Wasn't even aware they were different kanji, thought they were both 早
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>>72343615
早 - has to do with being early
速 - has to do with speed
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>>72343595
Fuck I need to listen to more speech
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>>72343885
He did speak a bit unclearly, took me a few times to get it
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寿司調理師が一般的な言葉じゃないからだ。
「寿司職人」って言うよ普通。
彼が婉曲な答え方をした理由は不明。
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>>72344143
Probably because he thought Dr. Steve Brule was retarded

Also why don't you reply to posts?
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>>72344464
because I dislike 喧嘩 so much.
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「寿司職人」は「運転手」のようなもの
「寿司調理師」は「運転免許保持者」のようなもの

つまり本物じゃないのかもしれない。
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>>72344759
そうですね。なぜ4ちゃんに行きますか?
~理想を守るとわからないよ~
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>>72345059
because the person whom I want to talk with is in 4chan.
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>>72345194
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>>72345298
>何じゃそれキモっ
>~を使え、バカ
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多分、国旗が出てる時点で匿名ではないからだろうね。
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>僕には関係のないことだ
Could this be used to mean "I don't care"? I saw it on a Japanese translation of a Filthy Frank video.
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>>72345059
in addition, because I sometimes want to say dirty jokes. :)
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>>72345918
いま冗談持っている?
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>>72346224
うん冗談 :)
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What hangs at a man's thigh and wants to poke the hole that it's often poked before?
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>>72345237
Don't use whom. It's a very old form of "who". It would be like calling yourself 我 in Japanese.

If you do see someone use "whom" on the internet, be aware it's mostly used jokingly and in an ironic form.
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>>72346747
it seems that Japanese textbook teaches an old form.
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>>72346747
Holy shit, are you looking to have your honorary white people title taken away from you Argentina? "Whom" is the only proper word to use in certain situations, not some arbitrary obsolete form of "who". Fucking learn english grammar before wrongfully correcting people. (Btw he did use it wrong, but that's beside the point)
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>>72346978
Huh, well after a bit of googling turns out whom is not actually obsolete. I literally never used it though, and I've never seen it being used outside of memes.
>>72347127
I thought we never had a honorary white people title to begin with?
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>>72347192
You are in my mind, Brazil on the other hand...
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>>72347127
>Who is a subject pronoun. Whom is an object pronoun. To determine whether a particular sentence uses a subject or an object pronoun, rephrase it to use she/he or her/him instead of who, whom; if you use she, then you use the subject pronoun who; if you use her, then you use the object pronoun.
>In informal writing and speech who is also used as an object pronoun (hence one hears not only whom are you waiting for? but also who are you waiting for?), and whom may be seen as (overly) formal. As an exception to this, fronted prepositional phrases almost always use whom, e.g. one usually says with whom did you go?, not *with who did you go?.
Okay, I was wrong in claiming it's obsolete, but it's still too formal for daily conversation. I assume a better analogy would be using わたくし.
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>>72347420
It does sound formal I'll give you that, because only people who use certain sentence constructions that forces them to use "whom" use it when speaking. You would mostly hear it coming from the upper classes and academians.
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>>72345194
the issue of tilde/wave dash?
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thank you for teaching me, everyone
i'll go. good night
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>>72347912
>9am in Japan
>good night
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>>72348070
Work/school maybe?
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>>72345771
Can some Japanbro answer this?
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>>72347607
To be clear, "whom" used when it's the direct object. "Who" is for the subject.
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How far into core did you get your first leech?
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QUICK
Post some music you like to listen to while you're studying Japanese
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>>72345771
It's got nothing to do with me.
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>>72353190
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8liZFX-des
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>>72353190
https://youtu.be/2TDwIWD4ASI
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>>72353190

I think silence is best for concentration, and there is probably some objectivity to that statement; however, it might take time to get used to it, and I sympathize. For the first year or so of learning I listened to ambient music or solo piano pieces, occasionally orchestral works.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kJwVZJABDk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ7wg043a8s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F68ybN8ae0A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8C-JXyPK_w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIvzV5ZdYis&list=PLQNHYNv9IpSzzaQMuH7ji2bEy6o8T8Wwn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEnMW03cdpI
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>>72353190
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VILgSsesD0
best song ever
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Correct my English (*・ω・)ノ
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>>72354093
I can't post pics properly
Why?( ^ω^ )
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>>72354093
There are some parts where I'm not exactly sure what you mean but I'm going to re-write it in a way that makes sense to me.

March fifteenth (The fifteenth of March is ok, March fifteenth just sounds a bit more natural. Either way is ok though.)
I thought all I would do today is study in my room; however, my friend asked me to a study session. I joined.(the semi-colon however part in this line is kind of a complex punctuation that many native speakers probably wouldn't get right. "I accepted" also feels more natural than "I joined" but its ok)
We often had the study session until last year. It was nostalgic.(I makes sense but it sounds better for a reason I can't explain.)
I met him and we studied English in Aeon Mall. Since the mall closes at 11 o'clock, we studied till then and went to his apartment's Lobby Lounge. (If the apartment has a place called Lobby Lounge this is correct but if you went to a lounge in his apartments lobby its apartment's lobby's lounge.)
These events are familiar to us. (It's hard to know what you mean here so I can't really help)
We watched Youtube videos together there. Around midnight, a resident talked to us. (24 o'clock or 12 o'clock is almost never used for 12 AM)
He said to us "Why are you here?" (the period after the quotation mark is not necessary, again this is another punctuation rule natives will also get wrong)
My friend said to him "to talk with my friend, is that bad?" (continued...) The resident seemed suspicious. I thought it was no use arguing with him. What he said had many inconsistencies. We gradually began to fear him.
We backed off quietly.(Not sure what you meant here, it may be "We went back quietly")
After that we heard that resident is notorious.
I felt that he fears all things. (I'm not sure what you meant here)
I realized there are different types of people. I'm sleepy. Thank you for reading!
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中と 半, whats the difference?

also what is the japanese equivalent of 'Whats the difference'?
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>>72354093

I thought all I would do is study in my room today.

However, my friend asked me to go to a study session. I accepted.

We often had one until last year. I felt nostalgic.

I met him and studied English at AEON Mall.

Since they are closed at 11, we studied until then and then went back to his apartment lobby lounge.

These series of events are familiar to us.

We watched youtube videos together.

Around midnight, a resident in the apartment building talked to us.

He said, "Why are you here?"

My friend replied, "To talk to my friend. Is this bad?"

(continued....)

The resident seemed suspicious of us.

I thought that it was no use arguing with him.

What he said had many inconsistencies.

We gradually feared him.

We went back home quietly. (静かに帰る?)

After that, we heard that the resident is notorious (悪名高い)

I felt fearful.

I realize there are different kind of people.

I'm sleepy. Thank you for reading!
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>>72343011
Blame IME.

I always mess up when verbs with 飼買勝飼 or 行言 show up.

Wonder if I'll ever reach any decent speed at typing japaneesey, I can go over 100wpm in Portuguese and English, but that's because I don't have to keep checking if what I'm writing has been properly converted.
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>>72352888
I was almost over with Core 6k, so maybe around 4~5k.
Nowadays I have about 20 or so.

>>72353190
ADHD is not okay, listen to white/pink noise if you must filter surrounding noises.

>>72354179
Learn how to computer.

>>72355348
中 - inside, in the middle (3D)
半 - Half, in the middle (2D)

Of course the meanings may overlap, but this is the difference.

差は何ですか? was okay in Duolingo. But you can probably be more specific depending on what kind of difference you want to point out.
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Anyone doing Core2k only can confirm how many kanji are there? I think it was 800, but not sure.
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>>72354983
>March fifteenth (The fifteenth of March is ok, March fifteenth just sounds a bit more natural
Anon, America is the only country to use the MDY date system. Everywhere else primarily uses either DMY or YMD. You guys even celebrate the "Forth of July" instead of "July Forth".

>>72357102
Core2k/6k optimised reorder based on the default optimised vocabulary index:
0~1k = 461 (unique)
0~2k = 1005 (544 unique between 1~2k)
0~5999 = 1608 (603 unique between 2k~5999)
total = 1608 unique kanji.
If you want to have a look at this in spreadsheet form with the kanji and their appearance frequency, check out:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11S-anuSEV5do9el4asZREsCQq9FOOshwBcH1h_psO6s/pubhtml

Sorry about the webpage link. Something is playing up and won't let me share the page normally (keeps spewing out an error) as a google doc. Probably my ISP fucking up. Australian Internet is so fucking shit. This country is fucking shit.
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>>72358649
>Forth

Also you should come to New Zealand it's basically Australia but with good internet.
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>>72353190
I'd honestly prefer silence but I mostly study in an office and hearing other Japanese conversations while studying is extra, extra distracting.

This is my go-to morning study song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUD4RaRSSio

But really anything that drowns out conversation is good. Today I was listening to Fred Frith.
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>>72358753
Made fun of some anon for writing "forth" the other day. Now I'm the kid who fell on his face while acting cocky.

>Also you should come to New Zealand
Would love to, anon. Problem is countries don't really need useless cunts showing up in their backyard. I'd be more than a burden at the moment but maybe down the line. Looking to move down to Tassie for a few years because it's cheaper, better internet and my kind of climate. Might spend some time living in NZ at some point.
Know of any rich old people looking to take on a guy to play the role of their deceased only child? Wouldn't mind getting in good with some soon to be death rich folk and score a nice inheritance payout.
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>>72358649
Arigatô.
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>>72352888
Haven't used Core yet, but my first leech on RTK was 容
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>>72352888
2500 into core and 2000 into my mining deck, still haven't made a leech yet. Feel like I've had a few triple lapses though, maybe even a quadruple
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>>72359020
If I did I'd be on it myself, problem is old people nowadays live too long, not much point getting in their good books and then waiting twenty years before you get anything out of it.
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>>72354983
>>72355662
Thank you!
I will keep a daily today!( ̄^ ̄)ゞ
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Is this thread DET?
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>>72360943
Certainly feels like it while Japanese people are here.

We don't mind though.
>>72353319
Thank you.
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Yooo, first draft of the complementary guide I talked about making.
Opnions?

If you guys want to give me your time estimates for completing the following, it would be helpful:

- RTK;
- Tae Kim;
- Other grammar sources (specify if possible)

Also this appearance is not final, but I am not planning on making it that much prettier, does that seem important to you?
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>>72360436
"we were talked to" sounds strange, "talk" isn't normally used in a passive form like that. You would normally say something like "a resident started talking to us". Or if you really want a passive sentence:"we were interrupted by one of the residents who started talking to us".
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>>72361833
I see ( ̄^ ̄)ゞ
Thank you.
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>>72358649
>Anon, America is the only country to use the MDY date system. Everywhere else primarily uses either DMY or YMD. You guys even celebrate the "Forth of July" instead of "July Forth".
Fair enough, I put an American bias on it. I'm aware of the difference in American dates compared to the rest of the world I just didn't think about it and said what sounded the most natural to me.
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>>72360436
Make sure to see what >>72358649 said about dates, in America "March fifteenth" sounds more natural but in the rest of the world it's more likely that you would see or hear "the fifteenth of March"
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>>72361716
Seems okay, I would put the explanations of the routes above the chart? Maybe a suggestion / reality check on how long to study every day (esp for radical study / kanji study). Arrow heads pointing in one direction or both ways perhaps?
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>>72363970

I've spent about half my life in England and half in Australia and I'd say "March (the) 15th" and "the 15th of March" sound equally natural to me. I'd mostly expect to hear the former in the context of figuring out a calendar date eg "Alright, for our next meeting... I can't do March 15th" "Why, what's happening March 15th?" The second sentence especially.

Question: did anyone else find directly studying the radicals a waste of time after a certain point? I did a week or so of running a radical deck before easing into kanji and while I think it helped a little, after a while it felt like I was just getting overwhelmed by enormous abstract shapes with no meaning and 2-3 alternative forms, some of which are totally unused and many of which are rare/obscure (and no way to quickly know which). I'm several hundred kanji into a modified Heisig deck now and it introduces every new radical with an explanation anyway, so you learn as you go with the added bonus of context for each one (often very sensible, like the gold/metal radical being used for the kanji conveying gold, copper, bowl etc).

Only thing I'm disliking is how heisig puts his own meanings to some radicals/radical compounds without necessarily making it obvious it's his own creation, at least in my Anki deck. With "computer" for Ri it was obvious but I worry stuff like "flower/sun/large" becoming graveyard might fuck me up later
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>>72364928
Not at all, a bit of radical study has made learning new vocab leaps and bounds easier. If you're doing RTK specifically, use the koohii site.
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>>72361716
RTK took me around 4 months, Tae Kim also took me 4 months, but I studied at a much slower pace, so I'd say it should take 1.5/2 months.
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>>72360436
"I'm sleepy." is a little bit childish/cutesy (only a bit, though). "I'm tired." is more neutral, "I'm exhausted." is also common if you're tired because of being very active (either exercise or work/activities)
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So are kanji phoenetic, since names are written in kanji? Or are Japanese names nouns or something read literally?
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>>72361716
Looks pretty neat so far anon.
See how you've linked the A, B, and C routes together, immediately I thought of how it could be made into some kind of interactive mind map.
Person taking route A, for example, will have the mind map/system laid out in front of them as you have it and on the screen, whatever, they click their first box and within that box opens up a list of related resources with links and descriptions, as well as a sub section for each major resource, similar to what is in the Guide. It's the sort of thing a beginner could easy follow with the flowchart arrangement.

>time estimates
Let's see:
※RTK
Using the pdf of the sixth edition (or whatever it is up to) and reviewing with an RTK kanji deck, going at a pace of:-
~10 kanji a day: 220 days
~20 kanji a day: 110 days
~30 kanji a day: 74 days

※Tae Kim
Using the website and perhaps the related Anki deck:-
~1 lesson a day: 52 days
~2 lessons a day: 26 days
~3 lessons a day: 18 days

※Other grammar sources
Japanese: The Manga Way, Visualising Japanese Grammar, and the DOJG (Anki Deck) are all I can really think of.
Visualising Japanese Grammar:-
~1 unit a day: 66 days
~2 units a day: 33 days
~3 units a day: 22 days

DOJG (Anki Deck):-
~5 cards a day: 126 days
~10 cards a day: 63 days
~15 cards a day: 42 days

Japanese: The Manga Way:
~1 chapter a day: 32 days
~2 chapters a day: 16 days
~3 chapters a day: 11 days

>>72365158
Yes and no: mainly yes but mainly no.
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>>72365009

The deck I use (nihongoshark) has a ton of fields on every kanji's note, including heisig's mnemonic, any important notes from heisig (shit like water abbreviating to small or dog changing shape on the left hand side), and the top two mnemonics from koohii. Is there anything else on the site I'd be missing out on (apart from, presumably, the third best mnemonic)?
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>>72365282
You should be okay with the top two, but occasionally people use an alternate form for a radical that just "clicks" better for whatever reason. Think like if you want to change the "person" thought of in the 人 radical if you have no idea who Mr. T is etc. Maybe give it a look if you're really struggling?

As for radicals having multiple names / forms, after a while it becomes a non-issue via repetition. When you learn actual words using the kanji, the "radicals" become pretty irrelevant anyways regardless if they were formal or made up by heisig, since you can just look them up via vocab anyways. Just think about it like kanji training wheels, they become superfluous eventually.
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Please translate ?!wwさっきのリチャード韓国の神絵師様にRTされてて笑う
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>>72363970
Ok I thank your kindness (^人^)
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Is it possible to configure different amounts of new cards for different decks on Anki? For example, if I want my Core 6k to be 20 a day, but my DOJG to be 15, is it in any way possible?
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>>72365831
Just make different option groups for each deck, in deck options it's the upper right gear button.
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>>72365152
I see. Thanks (╹◡╹)
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>>72365483

Cheers. As for difficulty, I'm doing OK with ~95% correct consistently and 30 new cards per day for the past 10 days, the issue I was having was with the radical deck itself - since they're mostly all their own shapes, you have to just remember them all rote, and doing that even for just 15 new cards a day is tricky if it's 15 instances of huge stuff like the radicals for 'writing implement' or 'old bird'. The kanji deck only adds in 2-3 new radicals per day (if that) even at 30 cards per day, which is an easy rate, and the kanji themselves are easy too because "wash = water+before (before=cow+human legs)" is heaps easier than 10+ random lines, and that's even before you start adding stories

It's a shame my recall of actual vocab is going to be so slow in comparison
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>>72365891
Also, if you're really exhausted, another phrase you can use is "I'm fucking rooted".
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>>72365891
Don't listen to >>72366160, you don't want to start using weird Australian slang.
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Working my way through imabi, slightly vexed by this sentence:

彼が意見を言い終わるか終わらないうちに、あの人は邪魔をして口を挟んだ。
Before he could finish saying his opinion, that person interjected himself.

What is the role of か here?
I can't figure out if it's acting as an "or", an subordinate clause, or something else.
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>>72365891

And try "I'm all tuckered out from my big day!", this is the kind of thing a manly cowboy might write in his diary
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>>72366632
>cowboy
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>>72366504
right after/just as
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>>72366160
I see. Thanks(°▽°)
I know that "fucking" signify emphasis.
So I think that "fucking tired" "fucking exhausted" are right as well ,and I wonder you explains "fucking roots "
>>72366402
Ok Thanks(`_´)ゞ
>>72366632
Ok lol
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>>72366402
There is nothing weird about it. You're so tired you are unable to move; rooted to the floor.
>>72366919
See above. Rooted, like a plant roots into the ground. Plants don't really move on their own.
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>>72366632
>I'm all tuckered out from my big day!
Said Big Ted to Jemima.
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>>72366977
I understand the meaning and it makes sense but I don't think you should be enforcing that kind of region specific slang to a foreign learner, it's not something I've ever heard in American English and I wouldn't recommend him use a phrase like "I'm pooped" which seems like it would be a common equivalent here.
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>>72366796
oops forgot to add its part of 〜か~ないうちに grammar structure
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>>72367081
i agree with you

正確には
"~するか~しないか、のうちに"だね。
a little short form
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>>72366977
Oh I spelled it wrong , Since I'm tired (I'm fucking rooted )
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>>72367068
You are kindness Thank you
I'm vigorously studying English (´ω`)happy
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誰か新しいスレを作ってくれよ
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>>72367956
>page 8
ノー
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>>72191907

use this pic pls
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