So France was created by the Dutch right?

>>72237410
Belgians

my ancestors :)

>>72237410
Only Neustria contain Frank descents

And the Dutch aren't Franks but Saxons and Batavians.

>>72237488
>Western Russian

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>>72237410
it was created by us

>>72237410
yep

>>72237542
>Saxons
I mean Frisians

>>72237542
Salian Franks came from here. And the Merovingian Kings. And the Frankish language gets reconstructed by using old Dutch.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salian_Franks

>>72237599
> The Merovingian kings responsible for the conquest of Gaul are thought to have had Salian ancestry

>>72237488
>The abandoned coast and Scheldt region had been partially repopulated since the 4th century by Saxons and Franks from the east of the Rhine that retained their Germanic culture and language.

Flanders was germanic and frankish, modern french are thieves.

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>>72237542
>Western Russian
If you did your homework you would know that we're older than Russians.
>>72237558
Frankfurt. mein son.

>>72237599
>They came from here
Then they left

What is your point ?

>Frankish language gets reconstructed by using old Dutch


There is no trace of the so called Frankish language except a few names and some word in various chronicles

First the Netherlands were warrior tribes.
Then we joined the Romans and beat up Britbongs.
Then we conquered West Europe (together with the Belgians and Germans) with what we learned and helped form France and the Holy Roman Empire.
Then when Spain became in charge through marriage so we left. This led to some wars.
Then we were pirates, merchants and colonizers.
Then one of the centers of the enlightenment and capitalism.
We had some fun in New York, Suriname, South Africa, Japan, indonesia,Taiwan, Oceania etc.
Then Germany/France/Uk all tried to attack us at the same time, and we won.
Then we invaded the UK and took it over.
Then we and the UK tried to harass France, but that was pointless so we almost went bankrupt.
Then we just sat on our money for centuries as the richest country of the world, doing nothing.
Then we helped liberate the USA.
Then Napoleon took us over. At the same time we lost South Africa. Then napoleon got Waterlood by us *cough and the British and Prussians*
Then we formed a monarchy with Belgium, which lasted 15 years until they left.
Then WW1 in which we were neutral.
Then WW2 in we tried to be neutral but got ran over by Germany and Japan.
Then we formed the Benelux and EU.
And then we have today.

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>>72237896
Then we were conquered by the French alongside the the Belgians and the Germans


Fix'd

>>72238454
Surely if the French would have conquered Europe we would have entered the dark ages.

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>>72238578
>Europe we would have entered the dark ages

Carolingian Renaissance*

>>72238627
>france conquers europe
>dark ages begin
>The Dutch Republic is formed
>the dark ages end

>>72237410
Southern Dutch and Flemish see >>72237632

>>72237410
yes :)
nertherlandians our ancestors :)

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>>72237666
Not true. The Dutch dialects spoken in pic related are refered to as Low Franconian, because this is where the Franks settled. The Dutch dialects spoken in the north east of the Netherlands are - together with the North German dialects - called Low Saxon, because the Saxons lived there

>>72238972
>rich and right wing areas are franks
>poor and left wing areas are saxon
Really makes you think.

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>>72238972
>Not true. The Dutch dialects spoken in pic related are refered to as Low Franconian

Show me a text in the so called Frankish language if it exist

pro;tip you can't

>because this is where the Franks settled

Nope your Batavians and your blablant revisionism is not gonna change that fact

>>72239371
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankish_language

>>72239371
>Show me a text in the so called Frankish language if it exist

Dutch is a direct descendant of Frankish

And the Batavs lived north of the Rhine mate. They have nothing to do with the Flemish.

>>72239635
>Ask him to show me a text inn Frankish
>Show me a wikipedia page

You're in denial m8

There is no Frankish language, if there was one we would have at least the Lex Salica written in Frankish but nope we have it Latin same goes for the Lex Ripuaria we don't have it in Frankish but in Latin.

We don't even possess Frankish inscriptions you're just inventing a language which does not exist

>>72239876
Here you go:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebban_olla_vogala

>It is usually considered to represent a West Flemish variant of Old Low Franconian

It is well established among linguists and historians that the Coastal Dutch dialects are istveonic and thus Low Franconian btw.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franconian_languages

>>72240852
>11th century
>Old Dutch
I asked a Frankish Text not a Dutch text evenless this late

>>72243958
ok thank you armchair historian

we have all gathered that your knowledge is indeed superior to that of real historians

you are truly a beacon of intelect in this age of ignorance

( https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inscription_runique_de_Bergakker ( ;^) ))

>>72244699
n the Dutch town of Bergakker, near Tiel (in the Betuwe, once the habitat of the Batavi).[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bergakker_inscription


>Ask him Frankish Text
>Give me Batavi Text


Dutch "Education"

>>72237410
No, but they're our frankish brother

>>72243958
But Old Dutch and Frankish are the same

>>72244826
the batavi were already assimilated by the franks long before this inscription

>>72244936

It seems not since they're two different word designating two different people

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>>72245000
>Assimilated by the Franks


So the Batavians aren't Franks

>>72245169
the batavians were a meme dutch romanticists used to create a shared identity amongst people decendant of different tribes; saxons, frisians, celts and indeed: franks.

I also get the impression that you seem to think that the batavi couldn't have spoken frankish. why not?

I also missed the point you are trying to make in this thread...

>>72245000
My family is mostly from Holland, Brabant, the western part of Gelderland, Flanders, Luxembourg, Hainaut, Artois and Namur?
Am I Saxon then?

>>72238691
REEEEEEE the term 'Dark Ages' is such an outdated history meme. Europa never really has never had something of a centuries-long dark age

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>>72245436
>I also get the impression that you seem to think that the batavi couldn't have spoken frankish. why not?

WE WUZ FRANKS UND SHEIT

>>72246574
do you really think the southern dutch did not descend from the franks? it has been well attested historically...

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>>72247047
>Well attested
I don't care with biaised historians think

The facts are that


>Dutch are
Tall
Blond haired
Blue eyed

>while Franks were
Not Tall
Dark haired
Dark eyed
>in quo certamine tales viri de Nordmannis cecidisse referuntur, quales numquam antea in gente Francorum visi fuissent, in pulchritudine videlicet ac proceritate corporum

>It is said that Northmen of a beauty and size of body never seen among the Frankish people were killed in this battle.
Einhard, Annals of Fulda, Year of our Lord 884

>>72247565
>>in quo certamine tales viri de Nordmannis cecidisse referuntur, quales numquam antea in gente Francorum visi fuissent, in pulchritudine videlicet ac proceritate corporum
>>It is said that Northmen of a beauty and size of body never seen among the Frankish people were killed in this battle.
>Einhard, Annals of Fulda, Year of our Lord 884

keyword: 884

after years of race mixing with celts

southern dutch people are usually not that blond and not that tall.

>>72247673
The Celts-Gauls were Blond haired and Blue eyed m8

The Gauls are described as tall and of great physical strength, with a fair skin and blonde hair, which they often reddened by artificial means. Men of rank and of authority wore the hair andbeard long. The more barbarous tribes gave themselves a terrible aspect by painting hideous devices on their half-naked bodies. Their voices were rough and harsh, their words few, and their language obscure and figurative. Disparaging others, boastful of themselves, arrogant, fond of idleness, they were very quarrelsome and always ready to fight, to relieve the monotony of their existence, if for no other reason. They were, however, high-spirited and brave to utter recklessness and contempt for death
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0017%3Atext%3Dintro%3Achapter%3D3%3Asection%3D2


French are pure Frankish descents

>>72247776
that makes no sense and its probably a result of roman writers not being able to distinguish between celts and germanics

>>72247992
It's make sense if you consider it carefully without bias


Germans were most likely a red-haired elite who germanized the blond haired Celts then faded due to racemixing

As for the Franks they were Trojans which explain their dark traits

Make way for the True Franks™

ITT: WE

>>72245043
people =/= language

the only surviving franconian language is Dutch. france latin-cucked itself into the afwul gibberish it is today

>>72247565
The Dutch weren't really tall in the early medieval times. The average Dutch was around 170 cm then.

>>72237896
>Then we and the UK tried to harass France, but that was pointless so we almost went bankrupt.

When?

>>72248972


Latin is a superior language and our Race is a superior race, it is the Nordic(Bretons-Parisians) elements inside of our country who are keeping us down and impede us from turning right-wing

>>72249251
france isnt a race, nor is latin superior.

next question.

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>>72249463
Learn history and study population genetics before saying such bullshit achmed
It's your people who isn't a race(anymore) because you too much mixed with niggers and arabs and turks.

>>72249929
lmao Finland

probably would be close to Russia

>>72249929
Overlap in your pic == impurity

there is no such thing as racial coherence over 1000 years.

and Im Dutch, filthy frenchnigger

>>72249929
French is the second least genetically homogenous people in europe, even his map shows the northerners close to the Dutch/English and the southerners closer to the spanish/portuguese

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>>72250082
>French is the second least genetically homogenous people in europe

LMAO

We're the third most homoegenous people in Europe after the Welsh and the Irish

You germongrel are genuine subhuman mix of R1B(French) I(Germanic) R1A(Poles)

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>>72250191
You don't even know the difference between autosomal and y-dna, why should anyone here take you seriously after you displayed such idiocy?

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>>72250082
>>72250191
Wrong pic

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>>72250304
Kek, that's still a map of y-dna haplogroup R1b you realize that right? You look like a huge retard right now

>>72250398
never mind that retard, unfortunately all the mixing removed most smarts from france

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>>72250398
>>72250283
t. butthurt Germongrel

How does it feel to not know who is the ancestor of your race ?

How does it feel to know that your women were whore who gave themselves to several races ?

How does it feel to know that you aren't a people ?

No wonder that gayrmanic are so individualistic, deep down you know that your bastards and thus you feel no blood tie who rely you to your people.

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>>72250543
>gets btfo
>changes subject completely and goes on a butthurt rant
You're pathetic

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>>72250427

You're confusing your people with mine m8

>>72250692
inferiority complex is strong in this one

>>72239371
Batavians are just another Frankish tribes, like Salians.
and French people are actually latin, not germanic.

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>>72250672
>implying that Y-DNA isn't passed from father to son
>implying it doesn't allow us to trace back ancestry


You're the one who is butthurt lad

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Again you keep on bringing up unrelated things and still don't know the difference between autosomal and y-dna. Not even going to waste a (you) on this autistic behavior

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>>72250736
French are Franks retard

As for latin it is a culture not a race*

>>72250728
>fact

m-muh your j-jealous


I went to Amsterdam a year ago, it is a morrocan shithole same goes for your countryside and your women are the biggest racemixers that i have ever seen, even our Bregnoule don't reach this level

>>72251079
>French are Franks retard
nobody agrees with that except you and yourself.

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>>72251382
>nobody agrees with that except you and yourself.
Historians agree with it and i don't need anyone's agreement cause i just need to look at the depiction of my ancestors to see that we're from the same race

Meanwhile Dutch being a meme ethnicty willing to cling to anything able to give them a sense of identity are in total denial and don't care about obvious fact of the difference between the phenotype of the Franks and their own

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>>72251944

Meanwhile

The Dutch are a meme ethnicity willing to cling to anything able to give them a sense of identity, they are in total denial and don't care about the obvious difference between the phenotype of the Franks and their own phenotype


fix'd

>>72251944
You know the Dutch were also originally frogs. Because we live in marshland the Netherlands is still called "cold frog country" in Dutch.

Only the British started calling you frogs later instead. And Netherlandish people Dutch instead of Germans.

>>72247565
>>72248211
What the fuck am I reading
> Trojans

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>>72252133

It is not our fault, it was the Anglos who forced on us the frog meme

>>72252691

Instead of reading take a look at pic related and engrave it in your mind

>>72253439
Are you retarded? What language did you think Salian Franks spoke?
I see you're making references to Dutch people being tall and shit. Have you not met Belgian Flemish people?

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>that feeling when you conquer a vast land and the inhabitants of said land adopt a bastardized version of your tribe name as the name of their land

When did Varg start posting on /int/?

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>>72256546
>Shifting from Race to language

w- we speak a g-germanic language as did the F-fren... i mean F-franks !
mfw we spoke their language for a few centuries and now they believe it give them the right to claim our accomplishments

mfw the Italians will soon claim our achivements cause we speak a romance language