Will africa ever become first world? Why?

>>72233677

No.

They might have highways and big cities in the future but will never be first world.

Africans don't have a hard work ethnic and they have a very hedonistic worldview.

As soon as they have enough money to buy something impressive they will buy some expensive shoe or bag.

No innovation, saving money, or valueing education.

>>72233677
Chinese will make them 1st world and soldiers against Japan and us.

70 IQ

No chance in hell.

>>72233862
america did it tho

>>72233677
What am I looking at? A circumcision?

>>72233677
>Will africa ever become first world?
No.
>Why?
By definition. Neither will East European countries.
More seriously, if you're asking whether or not they will become developed one day, it's quite easy to believe they will, looking at the fast evolution of their HDI / life expectancy / infrastructures / education / whatnot for the past 20 years. Only their gdp per capita doesn't seem to be increasing faster than that of the OECD. Later, I assume.
IQ is a meme btw, and if you honestly believe they have (and will forever have) an IQ of 70 I can assure you that you're dumber than your average high school African student.

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>>72234120
>IQ is a meme btw, and if you honestly believe they have (and will forever have) an IQ of 70 I can assure you that you're dumber than your average high school African student.
>t. Swedish Africa defence squad

>>72233677
S U C C

>>72233677
not all of it but yes some of the countries will be south america tier in a few decades

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>>72234231
That's not necessarily a good thing.

>>72233677
Construction boss friend of my father went to Africa, Burkina Faso for a year. Came back, had this to say: Africans are lazy. If you don't push them they won't work. They don't give a shit about tomorrow, have no work ethics or concept of long term future.
Africans aren't compatible with the western way of life, they should be left alone.

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Yes, but that's an incredibly long way away (100+ years) for the worst countries in the continent like Niger, Chad, etc. However, other countries like Botswana, Namibia, and Gabon are rapidly developing and could potentially be eastern europe-tier in a couple of decades.

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>>72234284

>>72234305
Oh fug

>>72234305
aids?

>>72234305
is this related to their incredibly high income inequality?

If they are well nourished
will they can enhance their iq over 90?

>>72233677
What the hell is happening to that kid?

>>72234132
So if you get knocked out you get a hand job, tummy rubs and a head massage.

I'm born in the wrong place

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>>72234376
85 is the max.

>>72234305
>>72234337
This, why exactly would HIV stay eternally in Botswana when the situation is already getting better every year?
AIDS is the first limiting factor to Botswana's development, so you can definitely expect its HDI to raise like crazy within the next 50 years.

>>72234132
http://desuarchive.org/int/search/image/-TMMqP4ioiOjzOhWWKvdsA/

http://desuarchive.org/int/search/image/XcTPoMLs52gef8Hd85FTvg/

Wew lad, why are you so autistic?

>>72233677
Parts might
SA, Namibia, Botswana and Gabon should be pretty liveable in a few years
Zimbabwe has the infrastructure and educated populace to become decent again if they get rid of Mugabe/ZANU-PF
There are some regions (Liberia/Sierra Leone, Ethiopia/Somali/South Sudan, Niger/Chad, DR Congo) that I think are just doomed to be shitholes

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>>72234488
>~15 results
>autistic

wew lad, you haven't been here long enough.

>>72234218
this fucking documentary man

the part where that black kid smoke crack and starts talking about when he raped a woman

>>72233677
The fuck is that guy doing to that kid?

>>72234376
Nutrition isn't the only environmental factor, but black children score over 90 in the UK, for instance. In Bermuda, where the sample is more relevant than that of immigrants in first world countries, the black/white gap is almost non-existent.

>>72234643
snorting coke off him

african parties are wild mane

if china builds decent infrastructure maybe.
but they are honestly so far behind. Even way behind russia, and that's saying something.

You can make them have better education, make them eat better and things will improve dramatically.

say what you want but American and British blacks are leagues ahead of africans and only in a matter of generations

>>72234564
It's not a "nigger hate thread" though, we already all know Africa currently sucks, so spoiling the whole thread isn't necessary.
That's what makes you autistic.

>>72234666
Nice.

>>72234756
So which African country did you come from?

>>72234777
Go back to /pol/ you fucking idiot.
We all know you're that pathetic Canadian /pol/tard who goes out of his way to shit up threads on /int/.

>>72234802
There are at least two of us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyU-W_ZxZIk

>>72234643

The classic Jewish meth of circumcision.

>>72233733
culture constantly changes though and a hedonistic/self-centred mindset doesn't even matter anymore. Humanity is not required to work, all we do is make up bullshit to trick others out of their money, retain useless job positions and conflate supposed work. Few people work hard.

>>72234271
sure your boss didnt go to france?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W27PnUuXR_A

impossible. all developing countries can do for it is literally copy and steal techniques that originate in 1st world. and they need at least an opportunity to catch up a 1st world countrys economic structure/industry like south korea did. and even south korea was pretty forced and its economi structure/industries are still pretty unstable because they havent been able to develop their own original basics/methods. africa is even fucking far from it. its nothing but impossible

>>72233733
I really don't know about that. The entire continent isn't a tour of Detriot. There are a lot of African countries with growing businesses and pride themselves in providing higher education. The economic and social growth of these countries reflect that. I can definitely see Ghana, Botswana, and Kenya becoming first world in the next 30 years.

Also enjoy that "economic marriage" with Nigeria.

>>72235320
>all developing countries can do for it is literally copy and steal techniques that originate in 1st world.

If you did it, anyone can.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZ65PSrSgAo

africa isn't a country.
many countries in africa will be developed,judging from growth rates, not first world tho, as that's a political term.
many will not

>>72235854
Will iraq ever become first world?

>>72235869
no
and when (if) ww3 happen my rifle will be for russia
because fuck you

>>72235959

How would you rate your life in Iraq on a scale from 1 to 10?

Is it miserable over there?

>>72235990
baghdad is umm, a 6
west side of Mosul would be 1

>>72235536
motivations are needed to develop your country ofc but if you dont have such a strong tradition to cherish craftsmanship or protect/support academics you cant make any basic of technology. thus you at least need a big opportunity or simply a big accident brought about by an outside thats advanced.

african countries cant have it because all the 1st world countries dont have such an attempt and a motivation so far. all in all, the only realistic way to become an advanced country is literally be a puppet state of china and steal their technique. but as you know, china isnt even a 1st world country and at most china only can give them a somewhat efficient mass production method.

>>72236053
Wanna swap countries?

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>>72236106
no i'm a degenerate
would probably kill myself under religious laws

>>72236156
JUST

>>72236053
Why you don't come here ad many of your people?

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>>72233677
Someone's butthurt.

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>>72236233

>>72236233
>>72236252
you've already posted these leaf

>>72236349
[citation needed]

>>72233677
Who knows? You never know what future holds, so you should always hedge your bets.

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>>72233677
No, because Cold War is over and no more countries can enter.

>>72233677
>first world
t. Ronald Reagan

>>72234186
>t. IQ 69

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>>72236720
IQ is a meme.

who is this autistic leaf nigger? back to >>>/pol/ piece of shit

>>72236911
>autistic screeching
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

>>72236103
What? Are you saying there isn't a single African country that cherishes academia and workmanship?

>>72233733
>expensive shoe

Made me laugh imagining some rich nig nog with a single expensive shoe.

"I'm buying the other one on my next pay day"

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>>72237191

>>72237256
You honestly have mental issues, not even trying to insult you

>>72234661
>black children score over 90 in the uk

No they do not. GCSE tests are not IQ tests. Blacks score significantly lower than Whites on CAT assessments. There's an 8-10 point IQ gap amongst black brits and white ones. Chanda Chisala has been debunked multiple times. There exists no first world country where the gap has been narrowed to a non-significant degree.

>>72234120
>if you believe facts you're as dumb as the people those facts are mean too!

t. 70 IQ nigger

>>72234431
Shut up you AIDS ridden nigger

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>>72237489
>GCSE tests are not IQ tests.
I don't remember saying that
>there's an 8-10 point IQ gap amongst black brits and white ones.
6 to 7 from the data I had, which is either way still over 90 assuming white brits have an average IQ of 101. So what's your point?

>>72237576
>>72237624
See >>72237191 , or pic related.
What's up with the sudden amount of autism itt?

>>72237012
every country practically has it. what i talked about is one society as a whole can find it valuable or not. africa hasnt been environmentally such a place in the first place.
you could think about this matter from a more scientific and geographical view, not a political/racial view.

read Guns, Germs, and Steel. everything in the book isnt really right but has some interesting insights as to how/why each civilization grew failed survived and developed. alt-rights would massively hate this book, but anyway it will give you new ideas. its worth reading.

https://www.amazon.com/Guns-Germs-Steel-Fates-Societies/dp/0393317552

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>>72233847
This

African soil must be planted with our rice

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO83b6wbKU4

>>72233733
japs always get it

>>72238803
Looks like he doesn't know the words in English. I think his native tongue is Zulu and he supposedly speaks a bunch of languages.

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>>72234661
this is some hardcore fucking ignorance here. you are literally the embodiment of anti-science since you don't believe genetics and evolution exist.

t. studying genetics and neuroscience

>>72233677
is, in the final cleansing it will be a paradise for rich people to see wild life. It will be 1 giant tourist/safari zone :D (without the monkey humanoids)

>>72233677

>Nope

>Niggers are monkey's not humans.

>>72233733
>>72237156
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H36MDvP3GnU

>>72240587
I highly doubt you're in any science course or you would know how often studies are superseded and just flat out disproven. Both genetics and neuroscience are new territory and claiming something as fact when it hasn't been a constant since day 1 is /pol/ retarded.

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>>72241320
>you would know how often studies are superseded and just flat out disproven.
>i just made this up

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_IQ

>The general figure for the heritability of IQ, according to an authoritative American Psychological Association report, is 0.45 for children, and rises to around 0.75 for late teens and adults.
> Intelligence in the normal range is a polygenic trait, meaning it's influenced by more than one gene.
>Recent studies suggest that family and parenting characteristics are not significant contributors to variation in IQ scores;[8] however, poor prenatal environment, malnutrition and disease can have deleterious effects.[9][10]

>>72240587
>t. 2nd year undergraduate student
Did I say one single thing that wasn't accurate or is it just a poor trolling attempt?

>>72241412
Great job proving you're retarded.

>>72241412
So how exactly does that contradict anything I've written so far?

> 0.45 for children
Quite interesting considering the fact the most commonly used IQ data for African countries come from studies on children.
By the way, genuine question here. If that's what it implies, what does it mean for an IQ to be 0.45 heritable?
What range does it leave ?

>>72240499
This desu, I'm a mathematician but using numbers in English makes me sound retarded as fuck

>>72240587
I love when the justification is "I study X" like what the fuck does that mean? I could enroll in spacecraft engineering tomorrow and never attend a lesson but get the bragging rights forever according to this logic.

tldr get a degree fgt

>>72233677
cuz n*gg*rs

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>>72237012
He is saying that without a large industrial base, you can't physically cherish academia or workmanship.
To have a large industrial base, you need capital, education, infrastructure, knowledge of the land, and the ability to rebuild all of the above.

You see, its one thing to be reach, and then leave for another nation to study.
Its another to come back, and realize there is lacking fundamentals to do anything with what you acquired.
So to do anything, you need a external force to build the basics. Like, roads are terrible for transportation of cargo. Roads also doesn't mean anything if they don't go the last mile, because driving 10km/h in all wheels mode on a land freight mobile is generally a horrible experience in every single way.

And i think medicine is the worst example, while health services relies on infrastructure to work. Even if it can be made without special tools, spreading that over a few hundred clinics, alongside training, requires a lot of abstract infrastructure alongside roads/boats/trains.
And generally, the training is worth far more than the medicine, so is literacy.
Literacy combined with information is worth more than medicine, because it means the average citizen can start KNOWING what to avoid, or quirks, to avoid getting the illness. Or what part of the diet needs to improve.

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>>72233677
Watch Empire of Dust

>>72233733
Nigerian here and agree mostly. there are 2 kinds of people in Africa, the stupid who get money and waste it on material things and the greedy who get money and hoard it for themselves and their generations after. the former is usually the poor and the latter the rich. this is why you find an African billionaire still complain about lodging costs at a 3 star hotel. unless what they're buying has a long lasting use and/or can be sold after they will not touch it

>that swede defending Africa with cold hard facts BTFO-ing /pol/tards

Loving
every
laugh

>>72246435
The problem with Empire of Dust, is that it has 2 levels of commentary:
1. Government comments
2. Civilian comments

The governmental comments is mostly true, and remains a stark contrast compared to what happened in China. They did take over, already having a lot of the government chain in access, and failed to uphold the same improvement pace Whitey did.

But the civilian comments? A lot of the same can be said about China: No work moral, no standards, lots of petty theft and scams.
I wouldn't say Mr Ching Chong is smug, rather he is saying that the nations populace lost a lot because they didn't do basic road maintenance, regardless of how much brain drain they suffered.

Probably not. What we know as "1st world" is integrally related to what we expect from western European countries. Even "1st world" countries like Japan remain with cultural and sociological "3rd world" traits.

>>72237868
Are you black or not?

>>72249433
>But the civilian comments?

Agreed. That bit was a pot and kettle cringe fest.

>>72249433
But the Belgians were pretty shit in Drc though remarkably.

>>72247129
>the stupid who get money and waste it on material things and the greedy who get money and hoard it for themselves and their generations after.


That applies every where and it's not as simple as that, far from it in fact.

>>72233887
We were ~90% white at the time, though.

>>72237869
>>72233733


Your posts are bullshit. And hinge on stereotypes and misconstrued understandings of certain topics and I'll say why once I get home.

>>72233677
at least they have some common sense

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_drVAxlVoJQ

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Makes me glad I was born in America. Thanks African slave traders and white people

>/int/ 2010
>only americans and nordicks and other assorted heavy users of image boards

>/int/ 2017
>generals representing all corners of the globe including middle-east, asia (far east + ASEAN), south america, east europe and the occasional indian and pakistan

it's only a matter of time tbqh
as for first world who the fuck knows but /int/ representation would be a start.

>>72252211
They where shit at ruling, but while ruling, they had to build a lot of stuff, in order to get what they wanted.

I.E Workers can't be hired/used if they are dead
You can't transport whatever you farm/excavate/mine/extract if there is no decent railroads
Companies can't really setup shop if they have to keep using Private Military Forces to get ground and stability.
Medium sized companies can't setup shop if there is need to hire Mercs to do the job, hurting the economic extraction.

And a lot more issues. Even if they where terrorlords, they would still need to get a lot of things working to be terrorlords.

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>>72253623
Dumb nignog animeposter
*smacks with hammer*

>>72253759
You need to go out more. Jesus.

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>>72253984
Sweden no! I didn't take your girl I swear.

>>72254170
You wouldn't be able.
I have good looks on my side, too bad can't say that to the rest of the people of my naton.

>>72253822
A fact people gloss over is that during the pre-independence riots, pretty much all belgians were speed-evacuated and DRC turned into a sovereign state overnight despite not having any educated people qualified to fill the administrative positions previously held by belgians. Which was because the state of public education for congolese was non-existent, belgians never cared to invest in it.

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>>72254223
>You wouldn't be able
Alright you wanna go Sven? I challenge you to a dance battle.

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>>72253984
>>72254170

>>72254359
>>72254408
Stop with the girly anime pictures. Anyway, I just wanted to read thread and leave dumb comment and then leave, later guys.

>>72253822
>but while ruling, they had to build a lot of stuff, in order to get what they wanted.

Those infrastructure is limited to that though.
Colonial infrastructure (resource extraction colonies to be specific) cannot meet the need of a nations infrastructure because they do not match at all. Colonial infrastructure is the bare minimum to meet the needs to extraction and the administrations needs, not the populaces at all. That means that the stuff needed to develop and assist a populations growth are dead last in priority. The gap in utility between a nation and a resource colonies needs are massive, the latter you can cut corners and just neglect things that don't meet your bottom line of trying to turn a profit out of some jungle bunghole and the former now you actually have to give a fuck.

>>72253623
You could have been Black in much better places or upper class in current Africa

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>>72254025
Normies out reeeeeeee

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>>72254456
Buddy it's 4chan, I can post all the girly anime pictures I want.
>>72254525
Nah, I'm fine here.

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>>72254276
Well why didn't the africans just develop the needed education, organisation and leadership needed to run a succesful first world country overnight then :^)

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>>72253759

>>72237869
>every country practically has it. what i talked about is one society as a whole can find it valuable or not. africa hasnt been environmentally such a place in the first place.

African societies try to invest as much as they can in education despite the budget issues and send people abroad to universities to bring expertise back. You think that they do nothing with education at all?

>>72235431
I spent a few months in Ghana, and although I agree that it will probably be first world in time, it's still a long way off. Even in Accra there's a brand new mall which looks first world, but it's still surrounded by undeveloped land and shacks. I'm not sure about Kumasi (2nd biggest city), but the other cities I visited were still pretty third world in terms of their houses, shops, roads, etc. Weirdly though quite a few of them do have nice cars - the family I lived with, who were rich by Ghanaian standards but still lived in very basic conditions, had a big 4x4 which would have probably cost about £30-40k over here.

>>72233677
no

cause >>72240621

>>72233733
>No innovation, saving money, or valueing education.

They do do innovation but it's only useful instead the countries because they fit THOSE COUNTRIES NEED or they just don't get noticed because it's irrelevant to most folk outside of those countries. You think Japan would make a jacket that distinguishes Pneumonia from malaria or a machine that dehusks a native variety of West Africa rice

Saving money the issue is that after spending money on covering costs of living there's not much else since for example school is still paid for. On top of that bank penetration is limited but it's growing pretty well in many parts and new innovation are being used by local entities to expand the bank userbase such as mobile banking or lower bank costs. Following that cultural thing is that many people in the continent is that sharing money with family and helping family is very common so that take a toll on what money you can save.

Education many families try to pay the cost of education if they can but many families can't pay for is so kids have to drop out or have gaps in schooling. Many nations try to bring their education up to par but like I said before budget issues are a big problem and Public school implementation is a still very new thing on the continent since African education has always been "pay out of your own pockets" during the colonial era and post independance. When the educational institutes are there or parents have the money they will drive their kids to pursue education. Another issue is language of education which also contributes to school dropouts early and later but that's another issue.

>they have a very hedonistic worldview.

I don't know what you mean by this spiritualism and religion is pretty heavy on the continent and coming form Japan it's pretty ironic.

>>72234212
Underrated.

>>72254276
Nah. There was plenty. You don't have 30-40 million people without somebody being pampered, upperclass, or anything.
Administration itself is rather small compared to what manpower it needs to command.
And even then, you don't need more than 1/3 or 1/4 literacy to even have something like a assembly.

>>72254478
I don't agree at the end statement, sure you can cut corners: But thats still a lot of non corners left.
And thats a lot more to work with, than what most World Powers had before they Industrialized.
I feel post Colonization is like Chinese Pollution: They already had the tools to minimize it, but choose to not do it.

>>72233733
Says the Jap, your country was a meme that lived in 13th century feudalism until 3 major powers got in and built it.

You just sit in your comfy anime chair spouting racist bs.


Many African countries are quickly developing and fixing their governments fighiting corruption.

Read a newspaper, ignorant chink.

>>72233862

Does you 70 IQ allow you to find your way back to /pol/?

>>72243606
This lmao

Botswana, Kenya, and South Africa, Egypt, Tunisia, Morrocco, and Libya have a chance. I'd give it 30 years and they'll all be first world. Places like the Congo will probably never be first world.

Ask Albert Schweitzer. He knew.