Is this what Turks actually believe?

>>72204738
Turks in afrika wtf?

>no iceland

trash-tier maps

eu4 lol

WE

>>72204738
>Long Live Turkish People !
>Turkish People
now that's just going too far

>>72209539

WÜÇ

>>72204738
XDDDDD

>>72204738
Mongols, uzbeks, tatars, kazakhs, turkmens, kirgizs, yakuts are also turks, but i dont know any turks in africa

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>>72204738
>Is this what Turks actually believe?
Yes, I cannot go to sleep without ejaculating on those maps every night

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>>72210217
>cant even think for his own
>has to steal creativity from the french

>>72204738
>Is this what Turks actually believe?
Unfortunetly, yes.

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>>72209797
>Mongols, uzbeks, tatars, kazakhs, turkmens, kirgizs, yakuts are also turks

>>72210217
Fucking hell this is such a rip-off this pic

>>72210422
>Dutch in charge of humor
You must be a fucking retarded if you think i posted this picture unironically

And, thanks to you shitty faggots this cunt will win the upcoming referendum. God this is the first time I'm so angry with a country that i'm giving a serious reply to a shittalk

>>72204738
Soon they will start to pretend amerindians are turkish because mongoloids.

>>72210766
They already pretend Sarmatians and Scythians(Indo-European people with R1a haploshit) were Turkic lmao

>>72210692
>thanks to you shitty faggots this cunt will win the upcoming referendum
No. It's thanks to the 90% of Turks who support him in everything he does.

>>72210766
if only you knew

>>72210854
>90% of Turks
Don't talk about things you don't know about. Remember, your feelings are irrelevant.

>>72210820
its taught in history and literature classes (both mandatory) that schytians are turks

>>72210965
The majority supports him. Islam is incompatible with democracy, which is why democracy in a muslim country can never last. I'm honestly surprised that the transition back to an Islamic regime is happening through democratic means, and not through violence.

>>72210983
Scythians were IE people. Turks aren't.

>>72211186
>let me tell you about your country
Recent surveys say about 60% of turkish people oppose erdoğan

>>72209797
mongols are not turks but the rest are don't be dumb enver

>>72211226
i know, i was just pointing out that we are taught propaganda in our schools

>>72210820
They also already pretended Sumerians were turkic.

>>72211186
>fake coup and purges
>not violent

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>those red specks around warsaw and rzeszów
chortled hard.

Just how much power turks think people working in kebab joints have?

>>72211281
They're not Turks they're Turkic.
Are all slavs Russian?

>>72211328
Almost everyone is though.

Russians are taught they weren't at war with anyone untill the Germans attacked them in 1941 during Barbarossa.

>>72211270
Is that why he wins all the elections and the upcoming referendum?

>>72211281
The fact that Kazakhs speak a Turkic language does not make them Turkish.

>>72204738
probably

>>72204738

>500 Tatars in Finland(mostly assimilated) get their own region
>5 million Turks in Berlin don't

Explain this Turkish autists

>>72204738
what's the problem c*mskin

>>72210820
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Language_Theory

educate yourself my dude

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>>72204738

>>72211478
I'm tired of arguing with ignorant foreigners at this point

>>72211478

I didn't say Turkish I said turks

>>72211560
>was a Turkish nationalist pseudoscientific linguistic hypothesis developed in Turkey in the 1930s that proposed that all human languages are descendants of one proto-Turkic primal language.
But that's literally same as German autism claiming all people in Europe were germanic.

>>72211561
> post maps of empires while calling someone fascist.
those 82 iq graphs are indeed true

Lol Turkey just gave Wilders the win. Many of Turks and Moroccans will suffer because him

>>72211562
wanna change topic of discussion?
how about those genocides you're still denying ha?
pretty interesting stuff

>>72211475
You are right. The westerners who complain that their history classes are too "eurocentric" have no idea that they actually have the most diverse and objective classes on earth

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>>72211561
The sound of ottoman
*BRRRRRRAPPPPP*

>>72211478
>>72211186
Holding more united votes =/= majority. He wouldn't be able to come this far if there was a decent central-right party. Guy just knows how to be a good populist.

And yes, Islam does not work with democracy, But no religion works with democracy. Only thing works with democracy is secularism.

>>72211750
two wrongs dont make a right alexander papudoupolous

I think the problem with Turks is that they don't have the healthy hatred of their government.
They love papa Erdogan too much.

>>72211809
>two
you mean as in TWO genocides? are just one?

>>72211478
>Is that why he wins all the elections and the upcoming referendum?
No, they support him because countries like netherlands and germany are telling erdogan and his lackeys to stop chimping out and fuck off from netherlands and germany

How or why this makes him win elections and referendums is completely outside the understanding of normal people but clearly it's working.

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>>72211674
please, God, let it be so.

>>72204738
>every land where a mongol has ever set foot is Turkish territory

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>>72210692
im way down

>>72211827
the problem is that they are delusional as fuck, so every time someone puts them back to their place like the Netherlands did right now (essentially telling them they're just middle eastern kebab sellers that are here as guest workers ) they go apeshit.

Wait till someone mentions the word Armenian genocide in their face.

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>>72211803
break away from the sultanate, kemal. we'll support you. do it you faggots.

>>72211827
The real issue is that throughout the 20th century turkish leaders systematically removed checks and balances so they could enrich themselves and this left the army as the only check on the government, of course leading to military government and now even that is disappearing but its ok because they hated gommies so America supported them.

>>72211827
>they have no healthy hatred of their government
Oh you have no idea just how much we hate eachother and our government

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at least we got to see some nice pics like German shepherds eating kebabs last night.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4305778/Water-cannons-fired-protesters-amid-Turkey-Holland-row.html

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>>72212085

>>72211599
Just like speaking English makes you a Kraut, but not a German?

>>72211803
We didn't have separation of state and church until three years ago. We still rank very highly on all lists about democracy and freedom, etc.
Christianity is a lot more flexible than Islam. It doesn't prescribe how to run your state, or how to punish people for speaking their mind. In fact it's mostly about forgiveness and being nice to people. It's basically the opposite of Islam.

>>72211827
we have enough hatred for our government but thats not the problem. The avarege Turk lives in his dreamworld of ultra-nationalism or islamism. The power periodically changes between these two groups. and it always goes like this

Secular authoratarian government forms

Authoratarianism dissapears

Islam rises

Coup happens

Secular authoratarian government forms

Authoratarianism dissapears
so on and so on

The only difference this time is the coup failed. and we'll see what will happen

>>72212371
the sooner you implode and go into a civil war the better desu, godspeed

>>72212371
Really wish we just enter a Secular junta period again and just never leave it tbqh lads

Yassassin

>>72212517
the worst country in the world and we had to neighbor it, why don't you guys stop starting trouble for at least a month.

Can I go a month by without opening the news and seeing some news about Turks starting trouble?

>>72212270
Like how can you be this ignorant in a first world country? What makes you think that one jew religion is more peaceful than another one?

https://youtu.be/riDlxCvFZWw

>Christianity is a lot more flexible than Islam.
Christianity and bible isn't. Protestantism made it flexible

>>72212603
Stop whining and give back our islands.
http://www.gercekgundem.com/siyaset/233960/akp-doneminde-17-ada-yunanistana-gecti
>Akp government has secretly given 17 islands to the greeks

>>72212612
The bible is just a collection of stories written down over the years. It's not some the literal word of god. And like I said, unlike Islam, it doesn't prescribe how to run a state. And it's mostly about forgiveness and believing that Jesus died for our sins and that you need to trust in his sacrifice as a way to achieve salvation. It's not about decapitating infidels and fucking little girls, like the Quran.

>Protestantism made it flexible
So now you admit that it's flexible?

>>72212798
what the hell is a sandnigger gonna do with an island? you guys can't swim

>>72212612
Wh*tes are good goys
They believe in whatever desert fable The Merchant tells them, literally çomars of europe.
Let them defend their semitic moon wizards like the good obedient dogs they are.

>>72212458
wont happen.

>>72213004
why not?

>>72212918
>you guys can't swim
Well, we can't beat you at that, my teacher :D:D:DD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxZw7eCwOUU

>>72213177
see, what the fuck are you gonna do with an island, where are you gonna put your camels and shit?

>>72213126
civil war between who? 99% non gulenists and 1% gulenists? or do you think muslim fathers would kill their own alcoholic children? at worst scenario we may end up as iran. though it wont happen either.
however there might be civil war-ish conflicts between kurds and kurds (commie-muslim)

>>72210820
Well, Central Asian Turks have the oldest R1a and there are no trustworthy literary attestations of Scythian language, so they could've been Turks.

>>72213273
I don't know, figure it out, shitskins always find reasons to start civil wars.

>>72213332
like oh shit your camel took a shit on my lawn, time for a jihad

>>72213332
ofc you dont know. your whore mother didnt feed you with enough protein. and you ended up as dumb as rock.

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>>72213332
>mfw greeks call others shitskin

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>>72213314
>Well, Central Asian Turks have the oldest R1a and there are no trustworthy literary attestations of Scythian language, so they could've been Turks.
Indo Europeans are Turks?

>>72213398
>>72213428

I'd refrain from using words like dumb if I was a Turk, I mean look at you guys.

>>72213398
oh yeah? well at least my mom didn't cut off my dick when I was born?
how do you like dem apples negro?

>>72213428
why? what's wrong with the word shitskin?
you seem to have an urge to reply to me every time I use that word, why is that shitskin?

>>72213432
Haplogroups don't carry languages, boyo

t. Finnic R1a

>>72213547
You said Turkic is the oldest R1a, you fucking retard.

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>>72213450
>>72213475
>>72213520
Why are you agitated this much? It looks like you want some attention.
Do you want a hairy, muscular, manly Turkish man, gayreek boi?

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Do we have a DUMB gr*ek wh*teshit that distribute (you)s to every bait itt
I would like some good ol (you)s aswell :DDDD

>>72213598
You're confusion agitation with utter contempt.
Also
>gay jokes again
I mean, give me a fucking break will ya?
What is it with you third worlders and homophobia.

>>72213652
Why I thought we were having a good time?
I call you shitskins and sandniggers, and then you reply back then I repeat.
Till you tap out, because I got a pass and I actually shitpost on you without having to solve todller captchas.

Think about it while trying to solve the riddle.

>>72213581
Let me simplify for your primitive slavshit brain: Out of all contemporary R1a carriers, Turkic-speaking people carry the oldest clades of R1a. Also some P1-M45. And that is a fact, whether you like it or not.

>>72210766
I remember reading their glorious roach leader claim turks landed in cuba before anyone else.

>>72213753

No they don't. They pretty much just have Z93.
Old forms of R1a are found in Western Europe and North Africa.

>>72213753
kys retard

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>>72204738
>Hungarians
>Türks

Only one of 8 tribes were türk.

>>72213900
Kirghizes and Central Asian Turks carry more ancient R1a than Polish filth. It is entirely possible that by the time of Scythia the Turkic language shift had already taken place in Central Asia.
>>72213883
Oldest R1a1a1, the only R1a that's relevant.

>>72214085
>Kirghizes and Central Asian Turks carry more ancient R1a than Polish filth. It is entirely possible that by the time of Scythia the Turkic language shift had already taken place in Central Asia.
I bet Finns are turkic too according to you, you imbecile lmao

I love Finnic pseudo-science on this board.

>>72213748
So you just overwhelm with posts
Its fitting that only leverage a wh*teshit has is overwhelming with numbers
Its alright, we don't expect """people""" incapable of thinking such as yourself to do anything else anyway

>>72214169
>I bet Finns are turkic too according to you
hahahahahahhahaa lmoaaaaa
stupid nigger
>I love Finnic pseudoscience
You can't prove me wrong. Unless you can resurrect a Scythian.

>>72204738
Dis isnt likely to happen, Russians wont give up on their territories as well as central asia. It just wet gay dream of turkish nationalists, they call it Turan Empire or something like that

>>72214334
I don't even intend to prove you right or wrong.

I simply don't give a shit about your pseudo-science. Cockroach.

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>>72210820
>>72214169
quite recently some ancient genomes of Scythians and Sarmats were published. even the oldest and westernmost have some East Asian admixture, and amongst the eastern Scythians there are individuals who are *mostly* East Asian/Siberian. whatever language they spoke there is evidence of genetic continuity between Eastern Scythians and contemporary Turkic populations, and not with Central Asian Indo-Iranians or (lol) Ukrainians or Poles

http://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms14615

Contemporary descendants of western Scythian groups are found among various groups in the Caucasus and Central Asia, while similarities to eastern Scythian are found to be more widespread, but almost exclusively among Turkic language speaking (formerly) nomadic groups, particularly from the Kipchak branch of Turkic languages (Supplementary Note 1).

>>72214478
What pseudoscience? Give me some indisputable evidence of Indo-Iranian Scythians. When do you surmise this language shift to have happened and under what circumstances, if not as late as Scythian times?

>>72214577
>>72214646
Cockroach offensive.

>>72214577

Finnish similarity to West Scythians wasn't investigated though.

>>72211186
>majority supports him
Even most of his supporters aren't happy about the proposed changes to our constitution and recent polls support this statement too. We all know that the people who count the votes actually matter, though.

>>72214743
Answer my question: when did this surmised language shift from Indo-Iranian to Turkic take place in your opinion, if not by Scythian times? Also how did a civilization as mighty as Scythia fall to a bunch of poor Mongoloid pastoralists from the East? That is, if they weren't originally Turkic.

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Guys isn't Gülen living in the USA without any harm?!?

Just wondering

ITT: Clueless eurocucks who don't know shit about pre-islaminc turks.

The first map is stretching it a bit but technically accurate as turkic people indeed lived in almost all these parts either as an irrelevant minority or as a majority. Note that it doesn't mean Turkey gets to claim these lands but just that there are turkic people there.

The second one is just erdocuck LARP.

>>72210592
I'm a turkroach and I can understand all these languages except mongol. They are literally in *turkic* language family.

>>72210692
Wat. You do understand that this is a win-win for him either way, right? Modus operandi of Edrogan and his cucks, if you didn't already figure:
Attacking others and causing them trouble:
>lmao we're strong we're alpha, we gonna conquer them and recreate ottoman empire
Others not having any of your shit:
>wow we're so oppressed, fucking nazis, everyone hates turks because we're actually the good guys and the entire world is conspiring against us and making a big game because they just hate us and want to keep us down.

Are Dutch gonna think of themselves or some fucking referendum of some fucking country. This is like Kurds causing riots because of Apo. If I were Dutch I would be angry.

Traitors of the enemy are much lower than the enemy itself. You wouldn't trust a pathologically cheating whore even if she proposed to you. There is no guarantee you won't be next on the list.

>>72210692
he would win the referendum anyway won't he?

>>72214390
NOT PARTICULARLY COMMON

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>>72215449
Last time he lost an election, he went REEEE and just made it again. I totally expect some tricks.

The "no" voters are actually surprisingly many. Even the non-AKP nationalists, statists, and edges of the AKP demographic are staring to mumble obvious questions such as:
>Wait if we kill the separation of powers and make one guy the top, what the fuck gonna happen after him?

Such opposition (as always) made AKP super butthurt and they're going all out now. Because they kinda know, if they don't get the absolute power now and rule until death, thay have a pretty high chance of getting in prison eventually.

>>72212371
>this time is the coup failed
Wasn't the coup orchestrated by a different faction of Islamists rather than a secular military this time?

>>72215281
>I can understand all these languages except mongol
Siz bul twralı senimdisiz be...
I'm sure you understand Azerbaijani and Turkmen, but I doubt you understand all the Turkic languages.
And even if you do, they're still different nationalities. French and Romanians are also different people. And I'm not English.