>fell for the stem meme >can't find a job

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>>72022718
Take pleasure in your intellectually superior math degree.

>>72022718
get your masters NAW

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>>72022884
>kill myself 2 more years for a masters in science
masters of public health any good?!

>>72022810
????
math degree is legit 300k starting fuck off ok

>>72022927
>masters of public health any good?
if you like to work in hospitals, sure. what's your bs in?

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>>72022718
Responded ;-)

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>>72022986
biomedical science

I was thinking of going south to the states for optometry school but it seems infeasible

>>72023055
>biomedical science
>optometry school

seems like a good track tbqh. with your background you can make it lots of health professional degrees which are in high demand always

>PA
>ACNP
>optometrist
>dental school
>medical school ofc

that being said, if you have the drive, don't settle for anything less than a MD imo

>>72023125
I forgot to add

>computational biology/bioinformatics

to the list. also, very hot these days

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>>72023125
It just all seems infeasible to me at the moment. I don't have the drive for medical school at all and hate dealing with sick people. I say infeasible because I would be in 250k debt were I to go through with optometry school, the salary would be barely 100k for the rest of my life as well.

Bioinformatics looks interesting, but finding a thesis supervisor seems to be difficult. Might consider dental school as it's more lucrative than optometry.

>>72023050
ty

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>fell for the NEET meme
>cant find a job

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>>72023389
don't they give free money in sweden man

>>72023453
if ur skin is right or you have an autism degree, yes

>unemployment thread
>bunch of anime pictures
Makes me think

>>72022718
>tfw studied arts
>tfw employed

I'm glad that we spread the STEM meme correctly.
More jobs for us in the arts

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>>72023658
shatap stupid merikan

Why don't you idiots study Medicine? Just asking.

“The man who moves a mountain begins by carrying away small stones.”

>Fell for the NEET meme and now depressed

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>>72023658
I have a job.

>>72022718
murad....

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>>72024413
Getting into medical school in Canada is near impossible, you need near perfect grades which are hard as fuck to achieve if you take difficult science courses in your upper years, have to be a super normie, have to have plenty of extracurricular activities etc. score super well on the mcat and even then, it's still a rat race. I know several people who on paper look like shoe ins for med school but have failed to get in. Each school gets 4000 applicants and admits only 100-200 people, halve that since you're a guy that basically means 50-100 spots per school are open. Now if you're in Ontario, you're fucked even more since other provinces have very limited seats for students from other provinces.

Getting into med school here is a rat race, it takes way too much work and luck. The alternative is going to the states for study where you will have to spend 70-80k a year for four years.

>>72024690
>Wah it's hard so why even try?!!

Just fuck off retarded underachieving pedophile

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>>72024711
t. butthurt premed
see you when you're a disillusioned cuck in 4 years

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>>72024662
he's a coffee pourer now

where did it all go wrong?

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>>72024743
Weren't permabanned from 4chan, m*rad?

>>72024743
>I'm a loser so everyone is too!
No faggot, it's just you. The reason you can't find a job isn't because of the job market or the normies, it's because you're a lazy retard.

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>>72024805
I can find a job relevant to the field I studied, just not one I like. That's besides the point of this meme thread.

Cya in 4 years, you'll be crying about how your 3.98 gpa wasn't enough to get into med.

>>72024800
idk

>>72024800
you*
>>72024788
wut

>>72023350
There's gotta be something your degree qualifies you for.
I don't know what your degree entailed because I hate biology, but surely there's something in Canada that you can go for.

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>>72023658
I'm glorified tech support.

>Anime posters
>Are unhappy with their lives and unemployed/underemployed

really makes you think...

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>>72025032
I am happy with my life.

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>>72025032
Never said I was unhappy with tech support job. It's a good thing while finishing up my degree.

Life is good despite being a poorfag.

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>>72025032
I'm not unhappy tho. Just very confused as to what I want to do for the rest of my life you feel?

>insecure anime posters
>instantly give free (You)'s to whoever calls them out on their anime-posting

really makes you think

My phone was buzzing 24/7 while I was in the Netherlands for my Artificial Intelligence master with job offers from people that found my LinkedIn account.

Feels pretty good family

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>>72025111
I feel used.

Who /degree/ here?

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>>72025112
I need to update my linkedin.

>>72025112
what language do you use? Python?

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>>72025111
Imma level with you here.
It's REALLY fun to post anime.

Especially when people call attention to it.

>>72025165
Yes friend.

Also know Java which is really wanted by a lot of companies.

>>72025232
Wait hold the fuck up. Python is a desired language by employers? I thought Java and C were the main ones to learn.

What are my chances of ever using C# with a company? I plan on going for the AI focus myself.

>>72025149
Make sure you put every single fucking thing about your life in there.
Worked a paper route at 14? Get that shit in there.
Went to some kind of short course on photography even though it has nothing to do with your degree? Get that shit in there.

Also, make sure your phone number is in there too. Companies don't like to email people, they want to talk to you right when they find you

>>72025232
What books about machine learning or ai can you recommend? There are too many of them so I don't know which to pick
>>72025268
C is a meme. C# is amazing but it's basically Windows only java

>>72025312
>What books about machine learning or ai can you recommend? There are too many of them so I don't know which to pick
interested as well

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>fell for the stem meme
>ended up joining the military

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>>72025312
Well fuck me I wasted time with C and C# then.

Any other languages I should be concerned with, or just focus on Python and Java for the most part?

>>72024690
Sounds like it suck to be Canadian desu.

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>don't go to university/college
>still get extremely well paid
why do people waste their time

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>>72025232
>>72025268
How long does it take to learn python/java/C#/sql? I am a good learner and can more or less self teach myself the material (reasoning being that others have done the same in the past).

Most tech companies here only care that you have a degree, doesn't even have to be software eng or comp sci, in fact a science background would bring them "diversity" or some shit according to some recruiter I spoke with.

>>72025268
I've got my bachelor in Information Science, where I learned Java.
My AI master was pretty much only in Python, never been in touch with C#.

>>72025312
What specific part of AI?

>>72025401
t. tradefag brainlet

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>>72025401
What do you do and how much do you get paid??

note: I consider paid extremely well to be more than 80k/yr

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Are asp.net and c# popular these days? I want to learn java, but I just can't do it.

>>72025423
It's actually really damn simple. If you want Java I heard Khan Academy does good for it.

I've also heard CodeAcademy is good from some people I've tutored. Mostly for me I just used some pdfs of actual books, and did the exercises in them.

If you stay on it you could probably become pretty proficient in a month's time. At least enough to start thinking about showcasing what you can do.

I'm a biomedical major. I feel so concerned when I hear so many people complaining about how impossible all this is.

>>72025423
>Python
It's extremely easy if you already know Java, which I was lucky with because of my bachelor.

>Java
Difficult. It'll take you a while to get the hang of it if you've never really had programming experience before. Took me around 2 years to actually "understand" what I was doing instead of just getting spoonfed from my books.

>C#
I believe it's the same as Java.

>SQL
Not long at all, learned it in 2 periods.

>>72025368
C it's a meme bad not a bad one. I am learning it right now myself. It's great for general purpose.
You can find easily if you know C# so don't worry about it.
>>72025439
I don't know much about the topic so easiest in term of advanced concepts.

>>72025483
If you can't do Java then C# isn't going to be much easier. It's just Microsoft's slightly edited version of Java.

300k starting

>>72025232
is it that easy to get a job as a java coder? i'm doing a course about it this year

>>72025451
I work at the amazon warehouse and they pay a lot more then you would expect. I get paid around $13/hour and work 4 days a week for 9 hours

>>72025496
>Easy if you already know Java.
I did them in reverse order, but they are hardly similar. Going back and forth between them on a daily basis would give me a fucking headache.

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>>72025487
What are you interested in doing in the future? If you have a genuine interest and like for academia, research and the sciences, the outlook isn't too bad. If I were an American citizen I'd just go to a shitty MD school or a DO school and work 3-4 days a week for the rest of my life t b h.

>>72025486
I learn best from videos+textbooks so I'll give it a shot. Would you say the material you can self teach yourself is on par with what you'd learn at a university?

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>>72025513
>>72025483
>>72025578

Is learning C# through following a tutorial on making a game in Unity (I know, I know) a good way of learning C# ?

>tfw mathematics major
Literally 250K starting, any job I want

>>72025513
The syntax itself is very different from c#. Maybe because I just lazy to learn new language.
Anyway, I used to code VB6 then moved to VB.net because VB6 is getting old. I moved to c# not long ago. Surprisingly, converting vb.net project to c# is quite easy. So that's why I ended up learning c# today.

>>72025611
Learn to make simple c# console program before moving on to unity, asp.net, etc.

>>72025611
Lol, that's how I learned it.
Probably not the best though, as you will most likely be dealing with a lot of stuff in the engine instead of just the code.

If you have a good deal of prior programming experience though then it's fine. Just starting out it's a bitch.

>>72025610
>What are you interested in doing in the future?
I don't even. My stretchgoal (since I'm biomedical with focus in genetics) is to make designer babies because that would be amazing. But research would be cool too, if I don't get into medschool.

>If I were an American citizen I'd just go to a shitty MD school
Is there such a thing? I figure they're all tough as fuck to get into.

>>72025611
When you know nothing about c# then no
When you know a bit of c# then yes
Read this http://rbwhitaker.wikidot.com/xna-tutorials and learn a bit before you go into unity

>>72025611
I spent about half a year wasting my time on online courses until I just bought a book and understood how much it fucking better than online courses. My opinion is obviously subjective but if you feel like they hiding something from you just read a book
>>72025634
I wish I've chosen math as my major instead of linguistics.

>>72025512
Gee, that's kinda broad then.
I'll just name a few I read:

>Artificial Intelligence: A Modern Approach, Global Edition - Russell, S. Peter Norvig, P.
>Learn prolog now! - Blackburn, P.
>Sensation & Perception - Wolfe, Jeremy
>Discovering statistics using r - Field, A., Miles, J.

And a bunch of lecture notes made by our lecturers.

>>72025529
Not sure, I'm not even sure you can master Java in just a year. You'd have to take it very seriously then.

>>72025578
I'm not saying they're similar, they're just both imperative languages which makes it easier to understand how Python works if you already have knowledge of Java.

>>72025694
Getting into a below average to shitty MD medical school in the US is quite easy (relative to getting into Canadian schools and top schools like John Hopkins etc.). If you fail to get into an MD school, you can instead just go to a DO school, it's LITERALLY the same thing as an MD, you'll be a medical doctor after you're done just the same. The only problem will be securing residency spots for more lucrative specialties like dermatology/psychiatry/radiology etc.

>>72025701
>>72025729
>>72025684
>>72025688

What about official documentation?
I imagine that Microsoft would have decent documentation on it's own language?

>>72025738
I wonder, how do you make an AI program? Is there an engine or frameworks for that?

>>72025786
Microsoft documentation is very good and easy to understand. Most documentations also include small examples.

>>72025738
Thanks m8. But you have to know R too or you can just read documentation?

>>72022718
What was your degree class/gpa?

>>72025833
Caffe, CNTK, Deeplearning4j and a lot of others.

>>72025917
It was mandatory for me.

>>72022718
But my bro, that is not possible!!!!!!! STEM degrees ensure you over $100,000 a year with only a Bachelors degree!!!!! A 100% of employment!!!! Thisncsnt be happening to you!!!!! Noooooooooooo!!!!!!##'#

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>>72027866
that's true for software engineering tho

>>72029570
Is it really

>inb4 the catch is you actually have to be good or the job is a living hell

>>72029826
the catch is you must graduate from a good university, all my friends who did software engineering at waterloo all have 90k+ jobs right out of their undergrad, with some of them getting jobs for 150k+ in silicon valley which I found ridiculous

beginning to think I messed up desu

>>72030309
What do you want to do with your life? Aside from working?

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>just accepted a scholarship from the Nuclear Regulatory Comission
>then I noticed the solar shingles that Tesla is about to release
>you're already being outmoded as the whole nuclear industry becomes redundant
jfmsu

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>>72030429
stable career with good money, which is why I'm leaning more and more towards optometry but I hear it's not as good a field anymore

money basically, for various reasons

m in stem is for medicine right?

>>72030947
You just want money? Seriously? That's it? Like there's nothing else? We're 100% confident that's all you want? No jokes. No nothing. Just money. You don't even want to travel or anything. Maybe eat good food or I don't know do art.

>>72031061
math

>>72031085
you can't do all of that without money, that's the thing, I definitely want those things though

>>72030947
>money basically

never gonna make it

Why do people want to travel? I just want a nice suicide cubicle where I can watch my portfolio's value go up and laugh at the poor.

>>72023055
Go to San Diego it's where all the biomedical manufacturers are. My turk Roach buddy is getting his degree done right now and is doing his second internship.

>>72031975
surely that's biomedical engineering and not biomedical science right?

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>>72022718
>thread about a bunch of retards complaining about life
>anime everywhere

>>72025444
Have fun doing nu-male work, you phaggot

>people actually waste their time to get a degree and then get a shit job

All you need is connections, too bad for you