Why do Americans hate social democracy?

>>72005876
i think because they have no culture so they dont feel close to other humans in their own country
selfish subhumans

They have a hard time grasping concepts that can't be summarized by a catchy slogan.

>>72005876
Because socialism doesn't work. The only reason yall can function with it is because you have Daddy America spending all his money on military to protect you.

>>72005954
This. Although with Trump it looks like thier socialist fantasy will stop being funded

this is the logo of democratic socialism, not social democracy you fucking beanbag

>>72005954
You seriously, unironically believe that America spends money for NATO out of pure altruism?

they hate everything remotely related to socialism due to cold war propaganda

>>72006009
well sorry, English is not my native language, but you know what i mean

>>72005876
Americans have capitalism "in their blood". Even if many CEOs simply earn too much compared to an average employee, and the class of millionaires is able to secure disproportionate amount of resources, power and wealth, rich people are just getting more and more rich, and the average wages are stagnating they don't see a problem in it, according to Americans companies don't have any social responsibilties, they are just supposed to generate revenue for themselves. And these at the top aren't supposed to share the benefit with the others who often work as much for the general success.

It's fucking funny that in reaction to decreasing/stagnating standards of life Americans elected a businessman who is all for trickle-down economic.

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>>72006648
I know right? I simply cant understand how American working class people see this and think it is totally fine

>>72005934
>No culture
>Complains about American culture Americanizing planet

Ahh, the mental gymnastics of inferiority complexes

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>>72006738

>>72006738
I've been talking to quite a few Americans and it's actually they can't really grasp what problem WE do have with inequality.

According to them CEOs simply deserve all these money as they create jobs and bring in innovation.

I think we are raised in slightly different systems. Especially for an Eastern European like me, from a country with socialist past, it's bizzare. American capitalism looks just as extreme as communism - just on the opposite of the spectrum. Also it obviously works quite well so Americans will endorse it.

I think for an average man Western Europe is better to live in, America is for the rich definitely.

>>72006917
How are you guys ok with that?

>>72006917
It's interesting because normally you would presume that people actually think that there is MORE inequality than in reality while it's the opposite.

>>72005876
But politicians are the people we specificially elected to make the changes we want for us.
Is that picture advocating against government entirely or what?

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>>72006808
not Greece

>>72007014
I think it works really well because it makes their country really attractive to top tier immigrants.
They get to live in a top-tier country, get to use great infrastructure, and pay almost no taxes.
But the flip side of the coin is that USA really fucks over their lower class. I simply cant believe that this can be healthy in the long run.

>>72007023
It's because, despite all this inequality, their middle class still earns as much as in Western Europe.

>>72005876
Because they know how economy works.

>>72006738
It was a facebook troll, you simple minded person. The worse is that you really believe it. You have really a little brain.

>>72006048
Mostly This

>>72007868
So you are saying the pay-gap between worker and CEO in America is not larger than in other western countries?

>>72005876
They've got no idea what it means, they're scared of the word "social". they also prefer stability and think that reforms are risky.

>>72008045
Damn, you have issues. You understand nothing.

>>72005876
It's because our egos aren't invested into being upset when others buy nicer stuff than we do

>>72008203
i am just trying to learn more. can you please say what the real ratio of CEO vs worker is in america?

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They're raised into the extreme thought of individuality and "freedom", I won't go too much into detail how delusional they are if they truly see their country as the beacon of these values since that's not the point. Everything that proposes sharing, social equiety or something like that is like poison to them. It's no wonder it's one of the countries with worst social mobility and they're fucking content with it.

Can you really blame them? No Western European country has as many non-whites as they do

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>>72008246

>>72007014
Every other Polish anon I've talked to on here is a hardcore, far-right ultra-capitalist who thinks infrastructure investment and public education/healthcare is Soviet communism.

Is Poland like that IRL, or does 4chan just attract all of your edgelords?

>>72008345
The funny thing is, once they taste some social security, like Obamacare, they are very reluctant to give it away.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0FvLkXDKIs

>>72008385
oh, so only about 330:1, right?
Guess American workers get treated fair after all

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>>72007098
>0 McDonald's in Iceland

>>72008408
Obamacare is shit that fucks over the majority to help the few.

>>72008408
For what it's worth, a lot of Republican voters don't support Republican economic policy (when they're actually informed what it is).

They vote for the GOP almost solely based on social issues (abortion/gays/jesus/etc.)

>>72008532
Have you watched the video?
Can you explain why the interviewed people dont wanna give up on obamacare?

>>72007101
>american infrastructure
>good
Only federally own infrastructure like interstates are good, the rest is garbage

>>72008598
>>72008589

I'd also wager a lot of them have a negative knee-jerk reaction to it because it had "Obama" in the title.

>>72008385
>Poland equality
wow I'm proud

>>72008589
This is another thing that really baffles me.
That the American election is usually about non-issues like gay marriage, abortion and stuff. And really important topics like economy or social security dont get mentioned often

>>72008473
There used to be 1 in Reykyavik, but it wwnt bankrupt in 2009 sonow they have none

>>72008473
>per 1 million inhabitants
there's only 300k people on iceland.

>>72008473
its a non country with the population of a bigger european city

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It never works.

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>>72005876

>>72007014
>it obviously works quite well so Americans will endorse it.
works quite well at doing what, exactly?
allowing for a class of super-rich?

>>72005954
We do? I didn't know that

>>72008882
Because in the last 30 years the two main political parties have adopted similar liberal economic policies.

The Democrats (our """"""""""left-wing"""""""""" party) take up "social justice" to hide the fact that they shifted massively rightward in the Clinton era.

The Republicans (the openly pro-business party) take up conservative social issues to get rural & blue collar voters (who were historically Democrats) to vote for them, against their own economic interests.

>>72009076
You do what?

>>72005876
Because it leads to disaster and denbts.

>>72009077
I know right!
And i find it really funny that Democrats, the "left-wing" party, actually supports illegal immigrants, who are not only at the mercy of their employer, but also undercut the wages of American working people, causing a race to the bottom

>>72009050
this is amazing and I would very much like to know where it comes from so I could watch the whole interview. Can anyone tell me?

>>72005876
Who except for Germons about to vote for an even worse version of Merkel still support social democracy?

It's the cancer that killed Europe.

>>72009189
UNLIKE CAPITALISM, M I RITE?
HAHA

>>72009194
There were big protests here a few weeks ago in which a bunch of immigrants stayed home from work.

All of these rich business owners were on T.V. supporting the protests and immigrants for """""humanitarian""""" reasons.

Sad, but amusing.

>>72009431
well, we're all living in a capitalist world now not gommunisd, comrade :^)

>>72009403
Let me guess, you are a Wilders voter

>>72009389
There's a dude on youtube who interviews NK defectors. I forget his name, but search barring youtube shouldn't be hard.

>>72009477
We all are. This "social democracy" need to die. Fast.

>>72009431
Yes, unlike capitalism. Go to bed, weedman.

>>72009389
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhmzpMP3bEE

>>72009548
I bet it must feal really bad, knowing that PVV has no chance of becoming the ruling party

>>72009674
Ah yes. This trick again.
>d-don't vote for him
>he will never become a ruling party


Fuck off.

Germany is 10 years away from having free movement of labour with Turkey

>>72009729
Hey, its democracy and you can vote for whoever you want.
But as far as I know, no other party will make a coalition with PVV, so unless they get 50%, they will stay in opposition

>>72009798
>Implying politicians have principles

>>72009798
lmao

>>72009798
Worst thing that happens is that they remain a powerful, looming opposition that tries to hold the ruling coalition to account.

When only one party takes a position on an issue that you care about, and all the other parties have taken the opposite position, what's the use in "strategic voting"?

>>72009474
no debt or disasters here

>>72009956
Yeah, I think this is really bad for a democracy when one party remains so powerful and yet out of government for such a long time.
So other parties have to indentify the issues that make people vote for wilders, and reach out to those people

I unironically think that a socially conservative or moderate version of Bernie Sanders would carry sizable chunks of the country.

Even IRL Bernie was surprisingly popular among a lot of blue collar types I know here in the Rust Belt.

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>>72009609
thanks guys

>>72005876
Communist and socialists need to be strung up, throats slit, and die like pigs

>>72010009
I totally agree. Imagine a strong, charismatic leader who actually adresses the problems of the lower class. Such a candidate would win the election in a landslide.

>>72010063
That's literally how Trump won.

The problem is his sincerity and competence.

>>72009074
middle class in America is also very rich

Test

>>72009403
You realize that half of the things you blame Social Democracy for were executed by right wing parties? Kek.

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Btw I really like the fact /int/ isn't as retarded as our "actual" political board.

On /pol/ if you make a thread about /socdem/ you'll get ignored at best, normally you get insulted and there is 0 constructive discussion.

Here people atleast don't call each other "cucks" just because they don't belong to their echo chamber.

>>72010194
I agree.
A populist leader like Trump who is actually competent and can create social security for the American worker would have been perfect

>>72009970
the worst disaster was the great depression and the collapse of the soviet union was like 4 times worse in terms of gdp loss

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>>72010558
Agreed. This is a surprisingly comfy thread.