Did Germany deserve it?

>>71990106
nope. that shit was a tad bit over the top.

unfortunately for many innocent germans, yes

Did Germany start an aggressive war which caused the suffering of millions of people in Europe?

>>71990106
Did children desrve to be murdered in their genocidal campaign?
yes or no?

>>71990155
Idk you tell us when you kept killing them in the middle east

>>71990155
yes, if they were jewish

>>71990175

first nations

>>71990214
Yeah you killed Indians too what's your point

>>71990106
Very unfortunately, they had it coming.

If you invade SEVERAL countries and literally militarily hijack them, kill their civilians non-stop, be prepared, that if they somehow catch onto you, you're gonna be dread fucked.

Germany fucked over too many European states in WWII to get away without getting blown up and devastated.

>>71990229

point is to stop acting like a pretentious fag you fucking leaf we've both killed our fair share of children

>>71990254
You were the one who brought it up.

no. they would have made peace in 1943 if FDR hadn't insisted on Unconditional Surrender which even Churchill didn't want.

>>71990106
men? yes
the qts? no

>>71990285

it was a different burger

>>71990106
yes

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>>71990124
they started ww2
they killed 3-4% of the human population

>>71990150
they werent innocent

>>71990316
>the qts? no
germans are ugly people

>>71990124
They were going to get nuked but surrendered before the bombs were ready.

>ywn live in a timeline where germany got nuked

>>71990106
Yes, and they deserve it again

>>71990277
DO IT AGAIN BOMBER HARRIS

fuck no
but morality is a spook

>>71992113
this.

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>>71992113
this

>>71992113
>>71992148
These

After losing the war they've only harmed the world since then

>>71990106
>Did Germany deserve it?
No. They were just ahead of their time. I think we can argue that Europe would have been a better place today if Germany had won the war

The US and the UK still need to be held accountable for Dresden.

>>71992063
Maybe so mexibro. Operation Paperclip was composed of German scientists that were brought here to the states after Germany's defeat was imminent.

>>71992160
Nothing worse than a self-hater

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>>71992163

>>71992192
Germany must be stopped.

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>>71992178
germans are evil scum
you retarded americans also think that you are the good guys

>>71991961
>Not even memeing.
We're sorry for you, then.

>>71992216
t. roach

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>>71992210
indeed

>>71992246
All the good Germans died in the war or got hanged.

>>71992246
I am a Greek

>>71992260
Indeed
>>71992265
Close enough
Hamburg? If they are such evil scum, then why are you living there amongst them?

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>>71992322
not close
Someone has to stop the evil.
Greece did it two times.

>>71992357
Golden Dawn are the good guys trying to stop the evil

>>71992376
They like germany and use nazi colors.

>>71992438
Yeah that's what I said, the good guys of Greece. I don't think they actually like Germany though, they might like some Germans but not the modern Germany.

>>71992455
they are not good people

>>71992517
But they are, did they break your Turkish brother's nose or something?

>>71992532
nationalists are always stupid
they are probably same scum as turkish nationalists

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>>71990106
wow
looks like syria

>>71991961
Why do /pol/tards blame all of their faults on the Jews, but make fun of blacks for blaming all of their faults on whites?

>>71994293
Wow really got em with that strawman.

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>>71990124
Shut the fuck up

>>71994321
How was that a strawman?

Christ leafposters need a rangeban

>>71994355
I'll have you know, that i agree with you. Which is why I've given myself a self imposed range ban of which i have just broken to tell you i agree with you.

>>71992052
That's rich coming from you Abdul.

No, targeting civilians is evil

Yes, with all the atrocities they did, they deserved it.

>>71990106
cant have a war without a bit of destruction. instead of looking back and being salty we should concentrate on how to unite europe under german leader ship. 4th Reich here we come.

>>71996696
oy vey!

>>71996759
>>71996738
I was thinking more along the lines of a european superstate as a successor to the eu. blaming the jews probably wont work twice not enough left in germany for people to have much opinion about them besides nazi memes (I have never even met a jew).

Of course yes.

>>71990106
Yes, the entire population should have been killed

Yep.

>>71992247
holy fuck those are some ugly people, both the niggers and the girls

Fuck germans

Whole country should have been burnt into the ground after WW2

I think terror-bombing was way over the top.
It served no military purpose, and only nedlessly increased human suffering.
As far as I am concerned, this was a war crime

>>71999005
Nothing of value was lost, hence no crime

>>71990106
Yes, but it shouldn't have been the smug Allies doing it. The continental Europeans and Russians were the only ones who had the right to inflict that kind of destruction back on the Germans.

Germans must be learn more about Nazis.

>>71999449
I agree.
Do you also think Japanese should learn more about their war crimes?

>>71999483
we are learn it enough already.

>>71999563
Thats good.
Japanese people should never forget about the raped comfort women or the horrific crimes of unit 731

>>71996696
Do it again Bomber Harris

>>71999591
it isnt issue.
there are not accredited as a war crime. i dont know the reason it.
but you can ask USA, maybe he know all about it.

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Yes

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>>71999723
We were neutral in both WW1 and WW2.

>>71990106
Nazis did. Germany didn't

>>71999708
I find it very strange.
Maybe Japan should be more critical of its Imperialist past?

>>71999768
>Germany didn't
Stalin should have finished his job with deporting the entire population into the Gulags and letting them starve

lmao yes

>>71999723
>>71999757
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQdDnbXXn20

enjoy

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Why is everyone so hostile towards us?

>>71999774
at least japan was occupied from USA 1945-1950's. therefore we don't know war crime of Unit 731 almost.
but imperial past must be criticized. many country was independent from European countries Colony.
we destroyed your profit. that should really be criticized.

>>72000046
>t. el KoreANO

>>72000046
Sorry I dont really understand the point you are trying to make

>>71999977
Oh gee one can only wonder why..

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>>71999757
Why didn't germans respect neutrality? ;_;

>>72000412
we needed those sweet Dutch bikes

>>72000412
For the same reasons your country does not accept neutrality.

>>72000412
During the war they also used Dutch prisoners of war as human shields against Dutch troops.

>>72000506
When Germany feared an invasion they also stopped all food transports in the country, causing mass starvation.
When the Germans retreated after the war they also broke our dykes flooding entire areas.

>>72000506
>>72000555
i am so sorry

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>>72000506

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>>72000506
Dutch were forced to work in my town.
From what I know they had to work in ammunition factories but also rebuild the bombed infrastructure. There was also a Dutch "firefighter battalion" deported to my town to put out the fires after bombing attacks. I've heard many died because of timed detonating air mines.

>>72000555
My neighbors are Dutch and moved here in the 70s. They've always drove Mercedes and when returning home to NL with their German car and German license plate people threw rocks at their car or pissed onto it at night

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>>71990106
Yea like half a million potential enemies were taken out of the war effort

Absolutely. Germany should've been turned into ash for what they did to Europe.

>did europe deserve to get utterly destroyed by the anglo-american and bolshevik alliance
Who knows, I guess you shouldn't ask the people who benefited from it the most.

>>71990155
All's fair in love and war

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>>72000774
You're fucking retarded.

>>71990277
>>72000742
DO IT AGAIN BOMBER HARRISES

>>71990106
Do American people know that American occupation army caused numerous rape cases in Germany and Japan?

>>72000851
>americans
>knowing anything ever

>>72000791
Aah yes some random maps and attacks on my character will surely make the awkward fact that brits, americans and bolsheviks annihilated everything between the french west coast and moscow and left the entire european continent just a shadow of what it was just 40 years ago.

Actually not even a shadow, more like a decaying, burnt corpse marinated in soviet cum.

You sure showed my ivan.

if anything we didnt go far enough

>>72000774
>bolshevik
And who put them into power?
Germans deserve every shit they get

>>72000791
After WW1 Poland invaded all surrounding countries and later got it's ass kicked for that.
One thing they might not teach you at school:
If Poles hadn't been trying to annex German territory after WW1 and hadn't attacked and murdered German civilians the German population would have not been in favor of another war

>>71992017
>they killed 3-4% of the human population
Not enough and in the wrong places

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>>72000973
>Poles
>murdered German civilians

>>72000918
pls don't be mean

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>>72001066
It's pretty hard not to be mean after seing shit like pic related

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>>71990106
Hitler did nothing wrong

>>71990310
Unconditional surrender was better than the nazis deserved

Should have saved a bullet for every last one of them

>>72000973
t. justice for germans

>>71990155
Did German children deserved to be murdered in genociadal bombing of civilian target?

>>71992178
I always fantasize about meeting some wehraboo like you irl and just beating the absolute fuck out of them while they scream "so much for the tolerant left"

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>>72001184

same bro

>>72001184
cringe

>>72000973
this
reminder what poles did:
lynched german civilians on ceded west prussia area to provocate germany into war
then actually started ww2 because they thought they could beat projected german warmachine not knowing they had developed blitzkrieg and after that they murdered 6 million jews in polish death camps. cant say im not happy that communism hit hard on poland, i think justice was served.

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Instead of looking back we must look forward.
Surviving the 21th century is our task.

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>>71990106

The real question is, did the country that launched indiscriminate bombing campaigns on several European capitals deserve to be targeted by an indiscriminate bombing campaign?

>>72001184
so much for the tolerant left.

not even pro-german, i like France.

>>72001298
Harris is a liar, Britain bombed Germany first

>>72001338
Civilian bombing, that is (the only relevant bombing)

>>72001298
THANK YOU BOMBER HARRIS

>>72001320
>d-don't beat up nazis! Violence is wrong!

I'd stomp your fucking skull in too you little eurobrazilian faggot

>>72001298
>If you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you
Meaning: If you fight the evil you'll become evil.
Relating to the British bombings, which were indeed terror attacks, I find this quote very fitting.

>>72001338
This is true

>>72001377
Bombers were aiming very poorly back then (and even today we are far away from actually being accurate)

It´s called war. We bombed London, they bombed us.

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>>71990155
>>72001168
Pro-tip: Every terrorist once was a child.

"Everything begins with a child, they have to be killed. You all have to die, there is no future for your race. Communism will be supported by subhumans, they all have to be cleansed until the last remaining person." - Quote from the movie "Come and see".

>>72001545
So in order to stop genocides we have to perpetrate genocides?

>>72001692
Total depravity is actually a thing, so until there are no big-ish diffrences anymore: yes.

>>72001800
So antinatalism? Actually agreed, inb4 fedora memes

>>72001956
Natalism is only good if you want your country to prosper (Side-note: Not Individuals since competition will eventually be bigger).
So if you want to bash on some country/people or care for "Not repeating genocides or other human-made disasters" you should push Antinatalism on them. SeemsGood.

>>72001263
Care to provide sources for that?

I always see this strawman argument yet there are no sources.

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>>71990106

Yes

Dresden was just one day of bombing . Warsaw alone had 63 days of day by day executions, rape and pillage by normal rank and file soldiers - normal Germans clerks, craftsmen, farmers etc

Germany deserved to be levelled twice over (levelled then Germans should be allowed to rebuild it then it all should be levelled again)

>>72001263
Just like Germans were mistreated in: Austria, Sudetenland, Czechoslovakia, LIthuania, Yugoslavia, France, Denmark, Norway, Russia, Italy, Greece. Right?

Poor germans, oy vey. Sheisse.

>>71990106
Yeah, Poland deserved it too, WW2 was revenge by Pagan Gods for cucking Prussians and Lithuanians.

>>72002673
Care to provide sources for that?

I always see this strawman argument yet there are no sources.

>>72003075
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wola_massacre
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Uprising
Sources in annnotations, your turn

>>71990106
They deserved worse.

>>72003269
>Bronislav (also transliterated German-style as "Bronislaw") Kaminski was born in Vitebsk Governorate, in the Russian Empire, now in Polatsk Raion, Belarus. His father was an ethnic Pole and his mother was an ethnic German (later termed Volksdeutsch in Nazi Germany). Kaminski considered himself a Russian

Literal fucking cancer. That's why Poles and Germans/Russians shouldn't have children.

>>72002576
http://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDF_Books/David%20Hoggan-The%20Forced%20War.pdf

>>72003549
>He was antisemitic, and maintained a close association with various neo-Nazi and Holocaust denial groups.
hmmmmmmmmm, nice sources indeed.

see >>72002812

>>71990106
No.

>>72003549
>Hoggan blamed the German defeat in World War II to Hitler's reluctance to rearm on the proper scale due to his alleged love of peace
Nice """""""source"""""" you got there faggot

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>>72004059
>Hoggan blamed the German defeat in World War II to Hitler's reluctance to rearm on the proper scale due to his alleged love of peace

>Hitler's reluctance to rearm on the proper scale due to his alleged love of peace
Finntards really believe this.

>>72003729
>At Harvard, Hoggan was awarded a PhD in 1948 for a dissertation on relations between Germany and Poland in the years 1938–1939.
but yes lets disregard his research because it reads hes an antisemite babykiller nazi in wikipedia

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>>72001184
He'd look like this.

>>72004111
and what about
>>72002812

>>72004111
Nice ad verecundiam you got there, what about other PhDs from Harvard who say otherwise? All were mossad plants I guess?

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>>72004253
o shit waddup

>>72004111
So you say that Hitler invaded Czechoslovakia, Austria, Poland, Belgium, Netherland, France, England, USSR and many more because he loved peace so much but was provoked every single time? What a good boi, he indeed dindu nuffin, it was all them opressions and racis whiteys n shiet that forced him to

>>72004342
Austria wasn't invaded, just anschluss'd

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>>72004253
>A museum in Germany is calling for the last surviving British member of the Dambusters to be honoured.
>George "Johnny" Johnson was 22 when he took part in the 1943 air raid using experimental bouncing bombs in Germany.
>Oliver Koehler, from the Dambusters Museum in Germany, said "of course" he should be honoured.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-39179894

The Germans are good lads really.

>>72004451
Are Germans the single most cucked nation in all of history?

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>>72004531
>Poland
>not eternally cucked by Germans and Russians

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>>72004693
Burger bitte.

They had to gang up with russkies and austrians on polacks like niggers to do anything,

>>72004451
Most People see you as the heroes that liberated us, you know

>>72004746

Come home, Ostmann.

>>72004693
>takes german monies and then tells them to fuck off
>this is being cucked in burgers mind

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>>71999757
Rotterdam was a beautiful city, but we can't blame all Germans for that. I'm from Rotterdam myself and some family members have lost their homes and all their possesions, (they lived in the old center.) But, Prussia isn't part of Germany anymore and the Germans have lost a lot of their historical towns as well. The best thing we can do is improve our relationships with each other and make sure it'll never happen again.

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>>72004912
>all your youths move abroad to get ANGLO'd
>birth rate far below replacement level
>no universal healthcare
>essentially a labour colony of Germany and the UK
>economy reliant on gibbsmedat from EU
>this is being uncucked in the poles mind

>>72005302
>all your youths move abroad to get ANGLO'd
we don't get ANGLO'd because we don't assimilate :^)
>birth rate far below replacement level
true, but it's the same in every european country
>no universal healthcare
are you retarded
>essentially a labour colony of Germany and the UK
somehow true, but we're developing
>economy reliant on gibbsmedat from EU
false
we benefit from EU mostly because of shared market, gibs are like 1% of our gdp (and it goes back to germany anyways)

what's up with your obsession about cucking mate? any fantasies you want to share?

>>71990229
>B-but what about you???
Stupid faggot. It's always wrong to kill innocent people.

>>71992192
>Mr Flirt
Why are Europeans so goofy and gay?

>>72005501
>we don't get ANGLO'd because we don't assimilate :^)

Over 25% of all Polish-born marriages for females have been to British men.

Sorry don't care too busy being neutral.

Nah man, Germany dindu nuffin'.

>>72001184
>>72001389
>Implying americans can fight

lmao

>>72009868
Thank you, Bohemia

>>72005501
France's TFR is at replacement level

>>72006798
Yeah I agree, the bombing of Dresden was wrong.

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>>72009903
>implicating

>>72014226
you're a leaf so your opinion doesn't count
bomber harris did nothing wrong

>>71990106
Germany did, but not all people did. It's hard to sympathize when they did enable their government to do what it did, though.
It's complicated.

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>>72001297
wtf is going on there