Why do Germans get so butthurt when you say the EU sucks?

>>71691341
Because EU is germany itself

Desu I like the EU
Anglos not welcome

>>71691341
it just triggers me that people who are against the EU have no idea how it works
They get their arguments from /pol/ or Breitband and are never reevaluate their opinion

>>71691423
/thread

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>>71691448
I have an Italian passport.

>>71691582
Maybe you only get your information from pro-EU news sources.

>>71691984
thanks to people like you, I am well aware of the "arguments" of the other side

>>71691423
This

Germans are humourless and get bottom blasted when you make fun of anything. But hey, at least they Mosques

>>71692153
delete this REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>71692228
You said it, not me Heinz :^)

EU is basically the 4th Reich.

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I like germany and germans, best ally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f77Kj_wrgM

>>71692304
and russia is still and will forever be a shithole

>>71692383
No need to get so triggered, Hans. Fourth time's a charm, I'm sure.

>>71692496
we will annex you this time and force you to have homosex with refugees

>>71691423
/thread

>>71692545
Yeah, this time it will DEFINITELY work.

>>71691448
What the Spaniard said.

We like the EU.
Anglos are most definitely not welcome.

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>>71692610
be prepared

>>71692545
>Annexing Russia
>Ever working
That's why you fail everytime.

Not OP but can any germans tell me what this festival is where they have really graphic props of political figures and if you ask what's going on they get upset at you?

I was on r/europe and didn't wanna say anything in the thread because literally all germans were crazy angry and hostile.

>>71692545
>Germans annexing anyone.
>And working.
>Ever.

Eastern Germany belongs to Poland stupid Kraut.

>>71692819
we attacked russia twice
one time we won, one time we lost

>>71691341
would you like it if someone insulted your empire?

>>71691341
Because it's the only country of the eurozone which benefits from it.

>>71691341
It's the only thing they're allowed to take pride in without getting arrested.

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>>71692893
No, but whenever they do they get BTFO.

>>71692895
A (((giant sucking sound)))

>>71692682
We are born prepared

>>71693147
good

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>>71693190
>>71693147
oi. be nice

because it's true

I LOVE GERMANY

>>71693240
we are nice. we only want russians to become equeal members of European Union

>>71693243
no, it isn't

Because its their 4th reich

>>71693260
please do. my only dream is russia becoming a member of glorious EU

>>71693287
believe me, i would love to, but sadly, butthurt countries like poland or baltics will always block you :(

>>71691341
Because they usually spout the most retarded shit.

The european union brought lasting peace, prosperity, a common market with cheaper goods and a single currency and freedom to work in every other european nations.

But they ignore all of this and instead post some memes.

>>71692864
It's the german version of carnival. So it's less fun, more autistic, more political and with terrible weather.

It was traditionally used by our ancestors as an opportunity to critizise our kings in a "funny" way, so they wouldn't get thrown in jail.

They kept this tradition, but of course nowadays it's an sjw parade.

>>71691341
Eu is the forth reich.

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>>71695856
agreed, but we are the good guys this time

>>71695856
Ebin meme

Why are british colonies so buthurt about the EU?

>>71695605
>The european union brought lasting peace
Couldn't even bring peace to the Balkans and relied on the US and NATO to fix the mess.

You also could have all the things you mentioned without having all the lobbyists, regulatory committees, secret trade dealings, and unstable currency that came with it.

>>71695605

Peace and prosperity might have been achieved only with the common market.

Biggest problem with the EU is nobody seems to exactly know what they want it to become in the end.

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'cause germans are still nazi imperialistic scum inside their minds

>>71695907
It is every european country other than germany is having negative gdp growth. Coincidence?

>>71691341
Because Germans are complete subhuman trash

>>71696118
Poland had always had positive gdp growth since it joined the EU

Germans are more brainwashed about the EU than Russians about Putin and then they call people "dumb"
>>71690341

>>71696178
No shit? they've been receiving ridiculously massive economic stimulation and injects of cash from the EU since they joined.

>>71696178
Thats cuz their economy is so shit the only way it can move is up.
Plus at the rate they are borrowing, they will end up like greece and a german lebensraum slave state.

>>71695969
>Couldn't even bring peace to the Balkans and relied on the US and NATO to fix the mess
Of course I was talking about peace within the EU, not world peace duh.

And although there are some issues we need to adress it is important to acknowledge, that the EU is a unique community. No one is as successful at bringing so many different countries so close together.

>>71695991
The common market needed regulations and courts that would apply to the entire EU, otherwise the common market would habe been undermined by the memberstates trying to gain an unfair advantage by subsidizing their own products or implementing regulations that would make foreign products non competetive.

>>71695605
As an outsider, the EU doesn't look very peaceful 2bh and this free movement thing looks like a bad idea...

I like Germany but I am confused because the Germans in 4chan are hostile to Japan.
Germans are diligent and enthusiastic people, so they are very nice people.

>>71696252
so we agree that the statement
>It is every european country other than germany is having negative gdp growth
is false, right?

>>71696308
we love you, Japan
but seriously though, you should apologize for war crimes, like we did

Continuation of >> 71696308.

However, I do not like Merkel, which promotes immigration policy, because it is shit.

>>71696276
>peace within the EU
If you ignore what France is doing to Spain in regards to exportation of wine, or what the banks are doing to Italy, or what the EU keeps threatening to do to London.

>>71696118
Bullshit

>>71696294
How does europe not look peaceful? There was never a time in history with such a long period of peace.

And the freedom of mobement is a very good thing for tourism, european bonding, cultural exchange and of course an optimized allocation of workforce within the union.

>>71696318
Basically what germany is doing is making an economic system that benefits them. All their regulations are crushing their competition. Basically german tricks are jewing europe into a fourth reich. My guess is that in the near future countries will not like this and wars would start with intentions of getting rid of german tricks.

>>71696276
>that the EU is a unique community
no you're not mr. special snowflake

>>71696423
>And the freedom of mobement is a very good thing for tourism
Bourgeois scum detected.

Its great you can afford to go on holiday but the European working class cant because freedom of mobement depressed their wages.

>>71691341
the EU is a benefit in a lot of ways to Germany and Germans think the only reason someone wouldn't like it because they're racist and hate immigrants

>>71696408
I was talking about peace as in the absence of war, not the absence of people disagrreing with each other. People actially used to shoot each other on european soil back in the days.

>>71696423
>How does europe not look peaceful? There was never a time in history with such a long period of peace.

Well correct me if I'm wrong but aren't Western European capitals being shot up by Muslims now on a monthly basis? The free moment thing has nothing to do with that? 40 years ago or whenever the EU started was it really less peaceful?

>>71692304
I wish, EU is a faggot reich. Someone kill it please.

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>>71696389
>we love you, Japan
lies
G*rmans hate based Japan

Because they don't want another one of their reichs destroyed

>>71696530
You'd be suprised on how similar europes situation is now and in 1914.

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>>71696440
interesting theory :DDD
then how do you explain that every single EU member state had positive GDP growth in 2016?

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>>71696576
Nice fake

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>>71696178

>>71696633
Basically in the long run, southern europe will never see gdp growth again and will be slave state for the reich. France will be stagnant but the dutch sre fine because they are based like that. As for eastern europe regulations are already limited their growth and you can see this with their explosion in black markets.

>>71696389
I apologize when I need an apology.
However, we will dispute the Chinese government's history forge and propaganda.
There is no reason to kill 3 million people, the population of Nanjing city at that time was increasing.

In addition, China killed a lot of Japanese and Asians.

>>71696444
But the EU is

>>71696496
No need to exaggerate

>>71696800
It is your business, really.
I just sometimes compare Germany and Japan, both very industrious and wealthy country.
Yet Germany has huge influence in Europe and friendly relations to neighbours, meanwhile, many people in Asia hate Japanese, and Japan doesn't really have much influence over its neighbours.
And I cant help but to feel that it is because of the lack of apologize for war crimes commited by Japanese. I dont see any other major differences between our countries.

>>71696638

I screen capped it from Wikipedia faggot

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Japanese_sentiment#Overview

Your pic is from a 2005-2006 survey

>>71696633
POSITIVE GDP GROWTH? WOW!

https://www.gfmag.com/global-data/economic-data/economic-dataworlds-gdp-growth-by-region

The EU area had absolutely terrible GDP growth and continues to grow at terrible rates.

As soon as France leaves the EU and is allowed to compete, they will grow faster and your power hungry country will collapse.

>>71696796
And what is your evidence for your long term prediction?
Because until now, most countries have greatly benefited from the EU

>>71691582
shit conservative media outlets liek breitbart, express, mail and the like never cover the fact that atleast german economy has gone well.
they only do muh immigrants and muslims.

>>71696541
The EU started after WWII, and yes, it is more peaceful now.

>>71696600
It's not.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Coal_and_Steel_Community

>>71696996
Their demographics are kinda fucked plus they already have had huge bailouts from the ECB (kraut institution). Basically combined effects with german tricks, terrible brith rates, bubbles caused by cheap german loans and bad productivity are fucking their economy.

>>71697130
you think those countries would be better off without the bailout?

>>71697163
Well first off you guys have a say in their fiscal policy which puts austerity measures that destroyed greece for example. Basically these cunts should never have access to these cheap eu loans.

>>71695605
Peaceful from Germans?
What are you insane?

>>71697241
if you have no money and nobody is willing to lend you money, then austerity is your only option

>Basically these cunts should never have access to these cheap eu loans
I agree, but Greece faked their statistics to get into the Eurozone

>>71691582
>>71697015
Whose fault is that? Its incredibly difficult crafting a pro-European narrative if your British, nearly every article is followed by several negatives, it usually goes like:

>British farmers could lose their EU subsidies!
>Turns out farmers receive next to nothing from those subsidies
>Receives some of the lowest subsidy payouts in Europe despite paying some of the highest tax
>What little they do receive is often spent on enforcing arbitrary and nonsensical environmental laws
>EU will control what farmers grow in the future

Don't forget because of EU law British farmers must use homeopathic methods on organic livestock which are unproven remedies that are resulting in the painful suffering and death of British Livestock.

And then the final nail happens >French farmers agree the EU is destroying farming in France and England

>>71697329
>if you have no money and nobody is willing to lend you money, then austerity is your only option

Or you can print more money, oh wait Greece can't do that because it doesn't control its currency.

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>>71691341
Because it's their baby pretty much, even though it didn't start as such

>>71697038
>and yes, it is more peaceful now.

You sure? A lot of people seem to blame the EU's economic incentives for all the muslim terror and immigration problems that has spawned in the past decade. Doesn't seem like a very stable situation. I think I'd rather deal with a big hit to my economy than your massive influx of crimes and islam.

>>71697256
We aren't shooting each other, are we?

>>71697372
printing money means stealing money from depositor.
And once people notice that their government is gonna print money, they would exchange their currency for Euro immediatelly and Greece would be in the same position as it is right now

>>71697334
I think the problem is that EU is a easy scapegoat, because it doesnt defend itself. So British media and British politics love to blame the EU, to hide their own mistakes

>Don't forget because of EU law British farmers must use homeopathic methods on organic livestock which are unproven remedies that are resulting in the painful suffering and death of British Livestock.
pretty sure thats bullshit

>>71697448
>EU's economic incentives
The individual countries control these incentives. The number of migrants varies widely from state to state.

>>71692682
That would be like on the Lion King when Scar allowed the hyenas into the pride lands.

>>71696178
Since 1992 actually

>>71696233
>success_breeds_jealousy.tiff

>>71697468
Well printing money will devalue their currency but in the long run it may unfuck their economy.
Austerity really killed greece and started a unrecoverable economic death spiral.

>>71696899
Umm..., Japan apologizes many times.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_war_apology_statements_issued_by_Japan

Many Asians do not hate Japan.
When I went to Taiwan, I was told by the Taiwanese "I would like to express my gratitude to the Japanese who fought against the European colonial rule."
It is only China, North Korea, South Korea that dislikes Japan in Asia.
In these countries anti-Japanese education is actively carried out.

>>71697644
printing money is not some magical solution.
its just taking money by force from people with savings.
And it wouldn't work anyways since Greek people would immediatelly exchange their money for Euro.
Even before the government prints more Drachmen, the currency would be worth less than the paper it is printed on

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>>71697579
>success_breeds_jealousy.tiff
You're still not succesful btw. just slowly crawling out of the miserable ex-soviet pit with eu money like the rest of you failures. Even Estonia manages to be better than you and they have like less population than our capital

Sad!

>>71697531
Have you read some eu regulations? Its literally a beaucratic mess that only seems to end up with germany benefiting the most.

>>71697671
As I said, I am not too familiar with the situation in East Asia.
I just find it really strange that South Korea hates you, since you both are protected by America and thus natural allies

>>71697740
well, to be fair, Estonians are pretty successful, if not the most successful of all the ex-soviet states

>>71692895
I personally benefit from the EU and so do my Polish friends

>>71697689
Idk but austerity seems to be a worse effect than what you just outlined which is just capital flight. Its like being stabbed or shot in economic terms it's kinda hard to see what is necessarily worse.

>>71695605
>lasting peace

Wrong. That was NATO, Americans and the Soviets.

>prosperity

PIIGS

>single currency

The reason why PIIGS got into trouble in the first place

>freedom to work

Which Germs and French are trying to undo right now by essentially taxing foreign truck drivers.

>>71697857
austerity only means not spending more than you earn.
Imagine you, as a private person, have huge debts, very little money and because of your bad credit rating you cant borrow more money.
What other choice would you have, other than reduce your spending and live more poor, while slowly paying back your debts?

>>71696276

Yeah because EU is only a dispute resolution mecanism.

>>71697817
That's the point. Well, they're still not "succesful" per se. They're still not even half of our GDP, but the growth is pretty exponential. And well poland is just fucking sad.

>>71697935
well, Poland has the handicap of currently beeing ruled by retards, who politically isolate Poland in Europe, and still do silly things like subsidizing Polish coal production.

>>71696496
You can go on holiday for free with an EU passport thanks to couchsurfing. By bike.

Just stop posting already you fucking German potato

>>71697912
Well reducing spending for nation state means you are paying less for everything. Healthcare, public servant salaries etc which leads to a worse economic situation and inevitable making the country even in worse position to ever repay the debt. This is not the same as a private entity.

>>71697755
He's not wrong. The EU as an institution does nothing to enforce the intake of migrants and doesn't have the power to do so.

>>71698034
but the point is, you have simply no other choice.
if nobody lends you money, you have to cut your public spending, just like a private person would

>>71697912
Run away and start somewhere else anew. Which is exactly what Greeks should've done. Go bankrupt, suffer through the situation and emerge largely denbt free instead of this prolonged nightmare.

But no, gotta save the Euro, you can't go bankrupt..

>>71698034
To be honest, what's happening in Greece is painful return to normal. There is basically no difference economic-wise between Greece and the other Balkan countries so there is also no reason why Greeks should have wages worth thrice those of their Balkan neighbours.

>>71698217
Well what they could have done was use stimulus spending and printing money but they couldnt do that with a currency they could not control. Every country that goes into recession do this but since greece literally did the opposite thing their economy got fucked. Protip: making a country to have to cut spending and thus depreciating their economic activity/GDP makes it having a worse chance of paying debnts.

>>71698411
yeah sure, German taxpayer could have paid for Greek debt. But you can't expect us to act against our best interest in such a way, especially if there is no sign that Greek people see their mistakes and will change their behaviour.

>>71698296
I dont think you have any idea how bad their situation would have become. If it was such an easy solution, Syriza would have done it

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>>71691423
The EU was created to contain Germany and foil its evil right-wing proceedings. The Euro was conceived to destroy German independence and the D-Mark. Now whole of Europe is becoming nationalist and threatening anyone who proposes consolidation of European economies. And they want to eliminate the Euro.

Germany has won.

>>71697786
Not him but I often think that we had a better relationship if Korea was not separated.
It was a real tragedy for them and it's natural that they think “true enemy” is Japan.

>>71698485
>how bad their situation would have become

A lot. But it's not like their situation is any better now and if they continue the course, it won't be for many years to come.

> If it was such an easy solution, Syriza would have done it

You think anyone in Greece is able to actually govern? Greeks are spoiled children. No wonder nobody would dare to go bankrupt.

>>71691341
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4IpfNmgb6w

>>71698660
you mean like so many other countries that prosper outside of EU, like Mazedonia?

>>71698660
They should have just paid those taxes desu.

>>71697755
>let me spout some bs without any sources because le ebin germany is behind everything meme

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>>71697755
A bureaucratic mess that wasn't initiated by Germany and originally had the exact opposite purpose. Europe is now finally getting a taste of the medicine it has given Germany for so long: Oppression from every direction.

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>>71697448
>>and yes, it is more peaceful now.
>You sure?
Are you some kind of retard or something?

>>71699126
>Germans give the EU credit for the ensuing peace since WW2

Learn something new every day.

>>71698835
>making Greeks pay taxes

Good one

>>71698794
They would have a chance to prosper and develop an actual industry (which the Euro killed by inflating their salaries).

>>71699241
Germans have been fed the EU propaganda for quite some time and they are a very gullible people

>>71692545
but germany is beyond cucked right now, kraut-kun~

>>71697448
>A lot of people seem to blame the EU's economic incentives for all the muslim terror and immigration problems that has spawned in the past decade.
luv this meme
When will you fucks learn that this shit actually, factually happened more in the past yet you were not as aware of it due to not having a phone in your pocket you check for news every 2 minutes?

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>>71695605
>wanting peace in Europe

>>71699276
Can you tell me how the average citizen of any state can not pay taxes?

>>71699241
>I am unable to acknowledge simple empirical facts
You really are a retard.

>>71699546
By underreporting income, getting their pay off the books and who knows what else, I'm not a tax evading expert. Sure, you will pay SOME taxes but less than you ought to.

>>71699481
Oh?

>>71699610
Correlation does not imply causation. Has the EU really made Europe more "peaceful"? I still haven't gotten a direct answer. Seems a lot of arguments from Euroskeptics say the opposite but I'm just an outsider looking in.

>>71691423
Martin SCHULTZ, commander in chief of the EU, disagree with you anon and he is very sad because the EU isn't a Reich but a democracy where every Nations hold the same political infmuence than Germany.

>>71699546
I thought tax evasion was greeces national sport?

>>71691448
We should have kicked the Anglos out instead of giving them their referendum.
The Anglos were always a burden, they shouldn't have been let into the EU and corrupted it with English.
De Gaulle was right.

>>71699722
You better hide that money under the mattress then or send them to Switzerland because buying stuff with money you're not supposed to have incurs a penalty, which means that for the average citizen/worker it's hard to evade taxes.

>>71700028
For shops, business, large companies yes, it's quite big. For the average Joe it's not that easy.

>>71700069
De Gaulle was against the EU

He feared(and he was right) that the EU was a threat against our national sovereignty, and more generally a mean to criple us

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO4Dmj4lGqU

>>71699810
>Correlation does not imply causation.
That's just a sophistic way of holding one's ears and shouting "lalalala I can't hear you". Of course strict proofs don't exist in history or political theory, they don't even exist in physics. They exist only in logic. But you'd have to be a really dumb person to not see this.

>>71700200
As always, right
But he didn't want the Anglos to join the EEC, which is how they ended up in the EU and did nothing but do the normal Anglo perfidy of backstab the rest of Europe then leave

>>71691341
the EU is Germany's 4th Reich

>>71700102
Are there actually people controlling how much money you are supposed to have?

But as you said in here >>71700144, it's a game for different kind of players.

>>71700213
>They exist only in logic

Funny that, because the counter-assumption, that "correlation proves causation," is considered a questionable cause logical fallacy. If I'm wrong saying "Your dumb" is not an argument. Don't piss in my face and tell me it's raining outside. Tell me how the EU isn't been to the detriment of the stability of your continent. Go on.

>>71700213
>But you'd have to be a really dumb person to not see this.
>never actually addresses the argument that it wasn't the EU that kept the peace but the threat of Soviet invasion and NATO

>>71700362
You're stupid beyod belief. The other anon said "It's more peaceful now". You asked "You sure?" And when I post simple empirical facts in the form of a picture you playact as innocent logician who is just inquiring to continue your sophistical bullshit. It's not rocket science.

>>71700410
I've adressed it in the very first post. His postings are no better than the Russians repeating their "but where are the proofs?"

>>71700494
And I say you're willfully ignoring context because you're defensive about the EU but he was saying "It's more peaceful now" as in that it is because of the EU. You gonna do some more nitpicking or can I get an answer?

Convince me why a small country completely dependent on high tech exports and services should quit EU with 10 words or less.

>>71700690
Polish expert programmer: £30~k
Finnish expert programmer: £70k

>>71700645
Because it's fundamentally obvious that it's because of the EU. The EU is the mechanism which managed to keep the rivalries between the nations at non-violent levels, starting with the European Steel and Coal Cmmunity. The fundamental idea of the founders of the EU was to make war between the member not just improbable but physically impossible, whihc is why they chose to integrate and couple the indutrial sectors which were essential and at the very center of each nation's war efforts in the past.
You not seeing this stupendously glaring obviousness and instead playacting the innocent logically trained inquirer makes you as obnoxious as a flat-earther or climate change denier.

>>71700356
Let's say you falsely declare an income of 6k euros a year. It will be hard to convince the IRS that you are able to support a family, rent a house, own a car and have personal expenses. That means you're hiding money and you get a penalty or even jail time. It's not that easy for the paid worker, employee to avoid taxes. Especially now with the rise of plastic money.
Businesses and shops are another deal. A coffee shop for example can avoid giving receipts, thus avoid declaring income, to clients that are in a hurry. Businesses now can get taxed in another EU member with lower tax rates etc.

>>71700766
All wages in funland are universally bound to the CBA of any given line of work so you can't pay someone else less just because they're polish.

>>71700985
*and have personal expenses with that kind of money

>>71700932
>The EU's industrial sector and good intentions killed any incentive for conflict and it was what made war in Europe physically impossible

Well shit. I can see why someone asking questions would seem obnoxious to such a zealot.

>>71696576
heh, Nigeria loves Japan.

If a Nigerian and a Japanese got together, or made a band or something, they'd get called "Hips and Nips"

>>71701243
You dumbfuck are sitting at your computer the whole time. If it's really the case that you just didn't know then why the fuck didn't you educate yourself beforehand? You're in the internet right now, fucker. The world of knowledge is at your fingertips and all you have to do is start reading. You don't actually have to annoy other people for this purpose. There are libraries, encyclopedias, historical documents readily available at your service at a moment's notice for next to zero cost except your own investment in discipline and willingness to educate yourself.

I want refugee cum overflowing my spread asshole while a frog licks it up and a brit rims the refugee

>>71691341
Canada will free europe from evil german again :3 say the word my dutch buddies.

>>71700985
For that, the IRS has to first have to know that you own a car, a house and shit like that. They have to take interest.

>>71701558
>You don't actually have to annoy other people for this purpose.

The EU really is a sacred cow for you people, wow. The German ever so protective of his false narrative and propaganda.

>>71701995
Oh fuck off you annoying cunt.

>>71700932
And without the Americans to enforce peace through NATO and Soviets providing the threat to unite against, this mechanism would never work.

It's like thanking the brakes for saving somebody's life instead of the man pulling the brakes.

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>>71702100
I learned a thing or two, thanks Hans.

>>71702163
Attributing it to NATO is a fallacy. Look at Greece and Turkey. They're both in NATO but not both in the EU and their rivalries occasionally do break out in violent ways.

>>71702352
Are they at war or have been ever since they joined? No. Do they have a common enemy? No. Would they cease the rivalry if they were in the EU? No.

You don't keep peace with treaties. You keep it by being ready for war or sharing a common enemy. To which EU contributed the least.

>>71701787
Unless you bought a car without license plates at a "yard" the state knows you own a car. Pretty much the same goes for owning or renting a house. You can't hide large amounts of money for long unless you send them to a secret bank account in Switzerland or something. Not saying that everything is perfect, there's still work to be done.

>>71702881
But that would mean that somebody would have to investigate and find out and why would somebody do that?

>>71699388
tell me about my country tyrone

>>71702844
The recurring hostilities between Turkey and Greece don't constitute a full blown war, that's right, but they've repeatedly played out in violent action, with combat aircraft, submarines and special forces landing on islands claimed by the other.

And it's not that there aren't rivalries or that there aren't border disputes between EU members. There are. But not in a single one of them have the member states resorted to violence. NATO isn't for keeping peace among the members. The EU is. NATO is to keep the Americans in, the Russians out and the Germans down.

>>71703087
>investigate
Investigate what? When you buy a new car you get license plates. The state provides the plates. You could theoretically buy a used car and not register it in your name, but if the police catch you at a random check or during a traffic violation you're fucked.
Yes, in site checks take too much time for them to not be randomised but there are ways around it.
For example, there are house owners in high end areas that didn't declare the house pool (higher tax rate). IRS agents used Google Earth.

>>71703976
Investigate you. It's the same with piracy. Odds are, if somebody checked your computer, they'd find enough to net you a hefty fine. But they don't since it's not really worth their time.

That's how tax evasion and crime usually works. Not because it's not discoverable but because to do so, the IRS and the institutions in question would first have to have a suspicion.

>>71703957
>But not in a single one of them have the member states resorted to violence.

Because doing so would no doubt invoke a response from Americans who were the real peacekeepers in Europe.

>>71704951
>suspicion
Basically yes, that's what i said earlier too. If there's a discrepancy between your lifestyle and your declared income you're getting audited. There are not many assets (real estate, cars) you can effectively hide for too long.

In School we learn shitloads about the Eu, and that includes a lot of propaganda about how it's the greatest thing in the world. Also all Germans are thaught that Germany is the most evil country in the world and needs to be contained by the EU to secure world peace. That's why all Germans enthusiastically support the EU, because to them the more EU the less Germany and that's good. Meanwhile in the rest of Europe nobody has a fucking clue about the EU or how it actually works so they fall for memes.

>>71704951
The hostilities between Greece and Turkey leave the Americans rather desinterested despite both countries being NATO members. Your narrative does not compute.

>>71705683
That's true in part. The Americans did intervene during the last major crisis (Imia '96). Clinton in his memoirs said he couldn't believe Greece and Turkey came close to war over a ""rock"".

>colonize shitholes abroad
>teach them English and French language and lifestyle
>start flooding your countries
>blame EU

>>71696952
France is alowed to trade with whoever it wants. EU helps it, not prevents it.

>>71701657
I want to have a family with a conservative German man. We will have many children with wholesome values.

>>71697817
they had much better starting point

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>>71691341
Why does the EU suck again?
Before you post anything, google the counter-argument and reevaluate your thoughts, if you still feel that way, post both.

>>71713324
WTF I HATE ROMANIAN WARLOCKS NOW

>>71713324
Why is that when someone states something even remotely negative about the EU some Eastern European lapdog has to show up to defend her honour? Yeah we get it mate, without the EU you would be third world and Russia would have annexed you but maybe you should try to be more, idk, dignified?

>>71692682
If you are allowing an Asian cunt in, can we join and create the United Earth Government?

>>71702225
As an aspie, the acronym thing REALLY pisses me off.

>>71693287
Do you wanna join the US instead?

>>71714543
Wanna get anschluss'd?

>>71713513
Because the eastern euro average has a higher education than the average anglo on this board and you gotta be really fucking stupid to want to leave and/or destroy the EU in the current global environment.