why doesn't Russia just apply for NATO membership?

>why doesn't Carthage just join Rome

>>71684391
NATO wouldnt take them?

>>71684391
most russians dream about it actually.

inb4 reee bullshit speak for yourself.
don't listen to those cucks posting under russian flag. we do want to join nato. just come to russia and talk to any one here irl. pretty sure at least 80% of people will say they really want russia to join it.

>>71684465
but yes as this >>71684446 guy said they will never let us join unfortunately.

>>71684391
because nato is anti-russian alliance and there's no point to accept russian apply

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>>71684446
>>71684465
>>71684485
>https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/5-reasons-why-russia-will-never-join-nato-3105
Seems reasonable.

>>71684434
they effectively did become a roman protectorate at one point, and saw an economic boom so great that the Romans got scared/greedy and destroyed them. the difference is that the Carthaginians were prohibited from having an army as a roman protectorate, whereas NATO members are required to spend on defense.

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>>71684512

Because this military bloc exist exactly to stop our influence from spreading? Why China doesn't join it as well? Same reasons. It's obviously not as simple as "if one country is attacked, every other members have to respond", it's more about dividing and conquering.

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>>71684465
?

>>71684524
KEK the third Punic War was a one-sided shitshow.

who's still afraid of russia? all they got is old trash from the soviet period lmao

>>71684536
NORTH atlantic treaty organization

russia can apply

>>71684554
hating some organisation is not the same. the question is if we want russia to join it. yes, certainly we do. but we hate in its current state (without russia)

>>71684391
They're led by a man stuck in the early 20th century russian empire

>>71684512
>themoscowtimes
it's like referring to dailymirror

>>71684584
This lol. Brazil could defeat Russia in a week.

>>71684512
interesting. thx.

>>71684554
he's talking shit

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>>71684650
Its not factual. Its just some random opinion.

>>71684668
too bad you monkeys are afraid of fire

>>71684391
>that guys feet
western spy detected

>>71684716
he is not even brazilian. probably some angry peruvian guy

>>71684716
also don't insult brazilians please, they are good guys. insult canadians instead.

>>71684842
Why would I insult Canadians? They are our hockey bros, you nitwit

>>71684391
>Why doesn't game join the hunters?

>>71684391
But Putin did ask for a membership and it was denied.

>>71684391

You can't be involved in any wars when applying for NATO membership.

>>71684391
Because their government would lose a lot of options to bullshit their citizens.

>>71686111
No he did not. At most he asked USA for a "partnership" in lording over smaller countries.

>>71686557
No he did exactly OTAN membership

>>71684650

if the statements in the 1. reason were true, it actually sounded like they were on to something but it went to shit with too much oppionated shit that was spoken like it were 100% true

>russian join NATO for defense from russian threat

1) NATO was originally an anti-Russian alliance
2) Russia has disputed territories — Crimea, Kuril Islands, etc.
3) Russia is not considered "free" and democratic country in the West
4) Putin will never apply to military bloc where US is leader and he knowingly will be an subordinate

>>71684628
I really don't get your "logic" here

The likelihood that you'd hate something so much you'd want to become it, is absurd to say the least

>>71686527
Why exactly?

Explain Turkey 2011-present

>>71684391
NATO is nazi jew anti human alien totalitarian criminal organization. Who wants that.

>>71689677
> 1) NATO was originally an anti-Russian alliance
Time is now changed
> 2) Russia has disputed territories — Crimea, Kuril Islands, etc
Hmm...
> 3) Russia is not considered "free" and democratic country in the West
Russia is not a free and democratic country
> 4) Putin will never apply to military bloc where US is leader and he knowingly will be an subordinate
Then replace putin

Why doesn't NATO just apply for Russia membership?

>>71689677
>1) NATO was originally an anti-Russian alliance
2) It still is

>>71690987
You got it wrong, they hate it because they were rejected from entering it.

>>71691075
You forgot fascist

NATO is literally anti-Russia alliance. It is it's whole raison d'être.

>>71691294
you're the only fascist i need...

>>71686167
>This is considered elite property in Bananazil

Because Russia would cause more shit than prevent it

>>71684391

Well, Greece and Turkey are both in NATO, so a little war between NATO members doesn't bother anyone. They might as well invite both Ukraine and Russia to it.

>>71684391
They scared?

>>71684509
This.
What the fuck, OP?

Russia must go NATO! Anyway.

>>71684391
Russia applied several times

Why fire doesn't become water?

>>71684465
I'm sure some do.
I'll believe you if you say that do.
But you are bullshiting yourself thinking most of us want it.
Just
where you did that idea
did you to real people like you advise?

>>71695854
i can't even understand what you're trying to say. your runglish sucks

>>71689677
>Putin will never apply to military bloc where US is leader and he knowingly will be an subordinate
We have three ways in global long-term. China. US. EU.
Joining boloc under US? He will, we will. IF. we join as player that has right to vote and veto. But problem US isn't giving that, they create rules of the bloc, they change it, they dictate, and there is no place for minor parter. They also demand reforming country to democracy by their way, and here we have difficult question if it will make our country stronger or weaker, we don't have our own ready institutes to oppose theirs in that system.
Best way is EU, but US successfully distant us and germany over last decades and we have many conflicts to solve. If we achive solving Ukranie problem together with EU it will first sign showing we can work.


>>71691155
>Russia is not a free and democratic country
if its not free, then there is no any free country

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>>71696167
I just missed some words, sorry, it's not even about english. Here it is again:

*I'm sure some do.
I'll believe you if you say that YOU do.
But you are bullshiting yourself thinking most of us want it.
Just
where did YOU GET that idea
did you TALK to real people like you advise?*

Still, I see it was somewhat understandable at first place even with skipped words
So sucky-sucky, keep learning ur runglish, пoнятнeнькo?

Russia in Nato?
The only way Russia would join Nato would be if we had an alien invasion like in Mars Attacks

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