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not posting in 'it's' edition edition
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Good man. I refuse to post in that shit too.
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>>71569967
You are a good guy.
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>>71570304
He is. Don't reply to Swissyank, let him talk to himself in his thread.
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>>71570375
Isn't it annoying that Americans always try to steal your culture?
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Awake.

>>71570503
Very.
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real thread which has more replies and was made first
>>71569788
>>71569788
>>71569788
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>>71570503
more angry at the swiss
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https://www.thejournal.ie/drugs-survey-regional-3256644-Feb2017/
The war on drugs going great, I say very sarcastically. What do people think harsher drug laws or redirect funding into drug education & improvements to rehab services?
Or another option I'm not thinking of?
>>71570503 b/c theirs is so much more damaged than ours
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>>71570586
And that's why I just deleted my post from your thread
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>>71570612
>>71570602
>>71570531
Luckily WW1 happend and the Germans in the US forgot their heritage. I could imagine doing the same to German culture. It would be a parody of Bavaria.
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why's everyone ITT sucking kraut dick?
he's yet another redditor from outside /éire/, theyre all retards
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>>71570668
WWI really screwed Germany didn't it? I was watching a documentary the other day about how the English people went around assaulting Germans living in England during the war. Also the royal family had to pretend they weren't German and change their family name.
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>>71570755
You have no friends. Consider to end your futile existence.
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Glad nobody here is sucking underage Swissyank dick.
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I am british now
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>>71570794
Good post.
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>>71570780
Well in terms of international recognition WW2 fucked us more. Unlike WW2, WW1 caused massive hate in Germany. Turns out that it wasn't so good for the young democracy.

What happened at this time in Ireland?
Didn't you became independent?
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>>71570668
Lolz, yeah otherwise they'd all sound like the Swedish chef from the Muppets, eat sourkrut & bradworst and wear leaderhosers today.
Bet you've never been this grateful of the Nazis!
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>>71570903
Derp, just saw you said WW1 not WWII
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/éire/ has become /r/ireland
will be back later when the redditor foreigners fuck off
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>>71570880
proto-independence 1922, sub-independence 1937, independence 1948
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>>71570903
Just do something that is internationally frowned upon, like genociding protestants and taking back Northern Ireland.
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>>71570880
We became autonomous after WWI and gained full independence during WWII. World Wars are pretty good times for us. England's difficulty is Ireland's opportunity as they say.
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>>71570794
Top post so far
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>>71570903
>>71570946
>lolz
>derp
>!
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>>71570978
Unfortunately that topic isn't really a part of our history class as there was other stuff going on.
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Oh is Irish taught in school? Or is English the dominant language?
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>>71571026
That's a nice doggo.
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>>71571121
Do a google search.
Yes on both accounts.
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>>71571121
It's taught but not very well. It's mandatory for almost everyone but still very few come out fluent.
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>>71571152
I just realised I don't know much about Ireland. Well that's what Wikipedia is there for.
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>>71571211
Official sources will give a biased, whig history Dublin-internationalist view, mostly.
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>>71571029 yeah, 4 hours patchy sleep and studying (badly) all morning. Probably my last post for a while until my head gets out of my hole. I'll leave the bantz to the cognitively capable for a while.
>I r ashamed
>MFW I'm still not as bad as SwissYank
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>>71571139
I'll never get how chinks eat puppers
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>>71571309
They are uncivilised. The Huns should have dealt more damage to them

>inb4 Germans are Huns
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>>71571309
>you will never be that dog
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>>71571360
The English are the ones called "Huns" here, the Hungarians are the closest extant nation outside the clusterfuck areas of Russia, and the Mongols were the ones who BTFO China, and they did a hell of a lot of damage to begin with, and ate dogs themselves.
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>>71570957
Oh no, the yank is leaving what will we ever do?
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Those who live in Italy are more Irish than those who don't.
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>>71572276
When will we reclaim eastern Italy from those perfidious Croats?
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>>71572357
Fuck Croatia and fuck France.
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>>71572229
go back to /brit/ perhaps
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>>71572985
I just realised that I could move to Ireland without restrictions unlike some amerifats.
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>>71573029
You probably speak better English too. What makes you want to move here?
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>>71572357
don't ever talk shit about croats again
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>>71573029
hmm, so can i, since i have two schengen passports.
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>>71573516
you can tell by his retarded writing style that his english is shit IRL
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>>71573592
no niggers in /éire/ please :)
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>>71574389
wouldn't call me that irl little man
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>>71574459
I have before.
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>>71574550
and got your head bet off like all the other little pussies who think they can be racist without being anonymous lol
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>tfw only protestant on /éire/
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>he isn't a Church of Ireland man
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>>71574459
Are sure? Desu, They seem dumb enough to call you a nigger IRL
>>71574348
Still above the average American
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>>71574459
>larping as a black man
actually sadder than the /pol/tards who pretend to be nazis
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Did nothing all day, might as well pop down to Cex and buy a couple of films.
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>>71574764
*smacks lips*
say that again whoyte boii
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>>71574389
west brit

any true irishman stands as with our oppressed brothers and sisters of the global south
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>>71574886
remember reading somewhere that old Irish Nationalists identified more with the colonists than the colonized around the world as they moved towards self-determination

bery inderesdin
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>>71574886
i dont hate blacks i just hate when they come to ireland
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>>71574653
>tfw only athiest socialist homosexual in /eire/
>tfw cutest boipucci in /eire/
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>>71574801
>buying films
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>>71575231
>tfw only athiest socialist homosexual
ie catholic
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>>71575475
t.female minister
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>>71575622
t. choir boy with sore bum
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>>71575008
This desu.
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second catholic worker's republic of limerick when?
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What are all you lads doing tonight then?
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Found the yank lads.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkRcmWdV6Uo
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I once knew a lass named Molly
Who I used to ride with on the trolley
But she called me a dork
And ran off to Cork
And now I'm with a sheep named Dolly
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>>71576626
>those comments
you find this on /leftypol/ or reddit?
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>>71576626
>Texas
Nope, that's not him. He also looks too old.
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>>71576864
>those view counts
How'd he find it at all?
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>>71576603
usually go out on Saturdays desu
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>>71576971
"he" has curly long hair as far as I can remember
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>>71576864
top comment is someone with the name "antifa" yet hes calling him subhuman haha
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Very comfy thread lads, an-mhaith!

More German bro posting should be encouraged, anyway, have a great weekend lads, you all deserve a rest and a bit of down time. See yous back here Monday night to resume the struggle.

Ag dul chun dlí leis an ndiabhal is an chúirt i n-ifreann.
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>>71577180
you are either travelling somewhere or planning to kill yourself
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>>71577180
>See yous back here Monday night to resume the struggle.
>he doesn't post all week including weekends
normies out
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>>71577258

>See yous back here Monday night to resume the struggle.

Oh I will be back

>>71577287

Taking a break, the aul head space isnt the greatest.
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>>71577073
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/man-spits-baby-face-mother-white-people-breed-abdulla-rezzas-south-shields-a7594016.html
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>>71577329
>Taking a break, the aul head space isnt the greatest.
I'll join you desu.
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I really wish I could kill all non-whites in Ireland.
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>>71577458

Heading up to the mountains for the weekend, few beers and spliffs in the elements....bliss
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Fucking shit at Metroid Fusion.
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>>71577548
>spliffs
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>>71577422
kek
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>>71577590

marijuana cigarettes then. I work all week, go to the gym all week. You cannot take the simple pleasures in life away from me. a bit of weed while hill walking and camping is fucking fantastic.
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Can i post? I am not a yank
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>>71577704
are you swiss?
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>>71577704

Nice try Trump, better luck next time.
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>>71577696
>You cannot take the simple pleasures in life away from me
Can and we will, scumbag.
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>>71577824

awwww cute.
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Pasta or stir fry?
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>>71577859
stir fry obviously
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Those who disrespect the Gardaí are not Irish.
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>>71576603
Saving my liver for tomorrow night lad
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>>71577859
Spicebag
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>>71577903
Stir fry it is
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>>71577924
What a hideous creature.
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>>71574977
seems very generalised

there were Irish nationalists who descended from anglo colonists for instance.

What about those who were 100% Gaels, I wonder
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>>71577590
>hates weed, doesn't mention the dangers of alcohol
>>71577696
Smoke one for me, stuck with urine analysis can't smoke for a while
Be a bro and hassle Simon Harris & your local TD for a smarter implementation of of the medical cannabis bill
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>>71578248
>hates weed, doesn't mention the dangers of alcohol
Weed is illegal and only shitheads use it.
Using alcohol sensibly and in moderation is alright.

>muh medical marijuanas
You have to go back.
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>>71577924
they've proven themselves to be corrupt to the core
im not one of those fuck da police retards but they can't be trusted
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>>71578820
~t. drug addled lawbreaker
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Evening lads.
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I'm Bryan Dobson.
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Good evening, I'm Bryan Dobson.
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Bryan Dobson reporting live from the Brandyberg Gate.
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>>71579137
>>71579239
>>71579296
Bryan please stop.
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>>71578388
>Weed is illegal and only shitheads use it.
*tips*
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>>71579336
And what are your opinions on me, Bryan Dobson?
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>>71579386
Keep telling yourself that.
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Who is Larry?
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is this true?
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>>71579441
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>>71579502
I don't know, but I'm Bryan Dobson.
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>>71578388
>fell for the muh government has my best interests at heart meme
Here have some evidence on medical cannabis, reminder opiate based & NSAI pain medications cause more harm than cannabis
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2755639/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2503660/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12185373
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20805210
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23237736
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3998228/
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>>71579632
fuck off Joe
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>>71579386
To be fair the only people I know that use are those "KEEP IT LIT LADS BLAZE IT!! MAD SESH!" type of faggots.

No problem with the the people who use it and don't feel the need to build their whole life around around it and constantly remind people how deadly they are because they smoke
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>>71579826
Nicely presented and well thought out argument their, it take you long to figure that out?
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>>71579002
You're not frogweeb
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>>71579566
Dude weed lmao is the fedora position, you eejit.

>>71579632
You're an anonymous druggie on the internet trying to justify your drug use. Do you even have this neuropathic chronic pain? I highly doubt you're looking for anything other than a quick high.
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>>71579940
And you're not Bryan Dobson. I'm Bryan Dobson.
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>>71579932
calm down junkie
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>>71579932
Did not read a word of this.
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>>71580009
Did you read that I'm Bryan Dobson?
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>>71579889
They're all like that though.

>>71580000
Nice quints Bryan.
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>>71580092
>They're all like that though.

No.

>>71579979
>Dude weed lmao is the fedora position

Wrong!
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>>71580092
Thank you. I'm Bryan Dobson.
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>>71580136
>No.
You are.
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What are the plans for the evening?
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>>71579940
>you're not frogweeb
Excellent observation.
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>>71579889
Like sex, the people who talk about it most get it the least. No one should build there whole life around any one thing, especially a mind consciousness altering substance be it, cannabis alcohol or even something negligible like tea or coffee.
>>71579979
Fractured a vertebrae a number of years ago, developing arthritis and developing paralysis down my left leg. I'm in and out of pain management. It's a valid question and something we're taught to ask ourselves in pain management to keep ourselves in check.
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>>71580199
Actually, you are wrong.
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>>71580203
Reading the news. I'm Bryan Dobson.
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>>71580203
Probably try out the Ghost Recon beta.

>>71580264
Who is that fat old man?
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Hello? I'm Bryan Dobson.
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>>71580319
How dare you. I'm Bryan Dobson.
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>>71580246
>posts about how great taking weed is
>n-no I don't go out of my way to tell people I use drugs!
>I-I'm not like all the other druggies

>>71580243
>Fractured a vertebrae a number of years ago, developing arthritis and developing paralysis down my left leg.
That's pretty bad. Taking weed is alright for you then (if nothing else actually works), but healthy people taking it is degenerate.
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>>71579543
>vadaker
>teeshock
>ever
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my nama bryan dobson
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>>71580203
Getting smashed with /airlan/
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>>71580406
Think you could use some good weed. Helps you relax.
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I'm Bryan Dobson and these are my women.
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>>71579543
>Marxist
Debatable, and shit-tier regardless if true.

>American, Spanish
Both centres for exiled Irish to live and fight back against the tyranny we were subjected to. Not unconnected globalist economic migrants.

>>71580514
Proving me right.
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>>71580390
Jesus, you look like right shit without the makeup and camera.
Wonder what Sharon looks like without them?
Also she is apparently 46 years old.
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>>71580514
Don't push you make the rest of us look bad, it's there if they choose to go down that path or take a fight to Amsterdam.
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>>71580555
You could do worse
>>71580207
Didn't ask for your opinion notfrogweeb
>>71580577
You're not frogweeb
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>>71580480
what are you drinking tonight willy?
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what movie should I watch? Thinking something sci fi
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>weed users make the same argument fags make
Doing a think.
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>>71580741
>what anime should I watch?
FTFY
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>>71580817
>the same people afraid of weed are also closet homosexuals
Fascinating...
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Deeah gitch, I'm Bryan Dobson.
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>>71580741
Metal hurlant is an interesting series if you can find it, anthology based on the comics of the same name that inspired the heavy metal animation.
Antibirth is a weird horror/sci-fi.
Primer is low budget and heavy on the science side.
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>>71580844
thats the thing that I never really understood about animefags
why is anime in a separate category of film, why don't they just fall into the normal film genres like other cartoons
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>>71580741
Alien. I'm tempted to watch it later, I've never seen it properly and there's a thread about it on /tv/.
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>>71580890
>disapproving of something means you are that thing and fear that thing
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>>71580944
already seen all of them
alien and aliens are class. the rest are meh
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>>71580741
STARSHIP TROOPERS
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>>71580734
Not Smithwicks
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>>71580944
Alien 1 is good, but Aliens (2) is what people talk about. IMO Alien is the better film and the better watch for sure nowadays because Aliens took it in a campier direction and what it did has been done since by tons of movies that did it better.

>>71581052
Good choice.
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>>71581052
seen it, its a classic
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>>71580943
You raise a decent point. I guess it's because there's not a great amount of anime on netflix or wherever so they lump them all together.
That would be my guess at least.
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>>71580943
Someone post the copypasta. It's the art style and the colours and the repetitive elements.
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>>71570612
Harsher drug laws, give junkies a second chance in rehab. If they relapse, they're left to die in a gutter instead.
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>>71570668
Bavaria is the best part of Germany tho
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>>71581281
It's probably just the only part you know something about in terms of local culture.
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>>71581052
WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW MORE?
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>>71581457
*desire to know more intensifies*
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>>71581383
That's only because I spent a month and a half there enjoying it desu
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Not sure I quite understand this new Bryan Dobson meme.
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>>71582007
He's to announcing his own name what Sersh is to curry cheese chips.
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Have poxy shinsplints again lads fuck sake
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>>71581281
Dortmund is best
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>>71582078
Hey, I think Dobbo is great and I won't have a bad word said about him.
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Is Philip DeFranco who the radical centrist meme is based on?
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>discussion of drug use met with hostility and derision
There may be hope for /éire/ yet.
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>>71582151
Listen you ye scaldy headed geebollocksing cunt
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>>71582151
>Dortmund
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>>71582267
Someone got kicked out of the pub for wearing a gaelic shirt today
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>>71582333
Not sure how that's relevant to what I said, but was it a Unionist pub?
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>>71582307
I want to cum inside your asshole holy fuck
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>>71582362
Didn't mean to reply. But sort of, you're supposed to get kicked out for wearing rangers tops and such too.
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>>71582151
>>71582307

Reus is pretty kawaii tbf
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Try Munster!
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Austria is the best part of Germany desu.
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Hamburg is the best German city https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA4AG05ejUU
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>>71582307
>>71583023
When are we getting characters in Munster/GAA jerseys?
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Just watched Ninja Scroll, god I miss the retro anime aesthetic
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1ndfml_provos-01_tech

watching this documentary lads. Bringing out the anti british in me
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>>71583119
Kleindeutsche Lösung > Großdeutsche Lösung
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>>71583250
Kleindeutsche "losung" failed.
Besides, south and west Germany have always been better than north and east, just like in Ireland.
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>Those Breath of the Wild previews
Fuck I might have to consider getting a Switch now
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>>71583382
>Now go, let the legend come back to life!
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Try Munster!
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>>71583331
>Kleindeutsche "losung" failed.
Despite ultimately uniting all of Germany? The primary distinction between the two solutions was the inclusion of Austria and her supporters. Austria lost the last of her supporters outside the Austro-Hungarian Empire when they aligned with the Northern German Confederation during the Franco-Prussian war. I fail to see how this could be considered a failure for the Kleindeutsche Lösung.
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>>71583222
Have you seen the note recent series? I think the story could have been stronger and it was plagued by member berries
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>>71583523
>>71583529
Post better boats
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>>71583191
Never.
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>>71583617
>Omake Gif Anime
Post better gifs.
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have 40 minutes to figger out one last thing for me maths test
i think i understand it mostly though, sure it'll be grand it will
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For what crime? Eating a meal? A succulent chinese meal?
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>>71583233
brits out desu
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>>71569967
do you guys really eat Lucky Charms?
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>send Nazi webm to a nigger
(:
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>>71583529
>Despite ultimately uniting all of Germany?
Oh, so now the metric is which one unified Germany and not which one would have been better? Well then obviously the thing that happened is the thing that was more likely to have happened, yes.

I was talking about which measure would have "made Germany great again". Kleindeutschland obviously did not.

>inb4 Hitler's Grossdeutschland
A consequence of the FAILURE of Kleindeutschland, run within the circumstances created by Prussia's Germany by a massive Prussiaboo.
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>>71583820
>don't associate with foreigners to begin with
:^D

>>71583808
They sell them here as a gimmick at absurd prices (approaching 10 euro). I tried them once and they were absurdly sweet and brittle. Why even bother putting the cheerio-type things in if the draw is the sugar crap? Stop mixing dessert with other meals.
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>>71583808
not even sold over here
all that leprechaun shit is just for tourists
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Very important pool
http://www.strawpoll.me/12409549
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>>71583975
I think both darts and snooker have a place.
But the old-style pubs are a relic now, not like they were, so it's pointless to say one's more valid than another.
You don't see much cards anymore either.
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Try Munster! ;)
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>>71583915
I don't, this was some person on my friend's snapchat. Fucking nigger.
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>tfw only black guy I know was the friendliest, most genuine person I've ever met and defied every stereotype
fuck lads, cant be a nationalist
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>>71584204
>knowing a black guy
Off to the salt mines of Leitrim with you.
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>>71584064
Just go to a sports club
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>>71584204
>he knows a black person
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>>71583834
>Oh, so now the metric is which one unified Germany
Well, was that not the goal of the solutions? They just differed on whether Austria should be included or not.

>I was talking about which measure would have "made Germany great again"
Oh right. Well, I disagree with the claim that Großdeutsche Lösung would have "Made Germany Great again" too. Firstly, during the time of the "German Question", Austria was in decline whereas Prussia was resurgent (see the Austro-Prussian war of 1866 for evidence of this). This made Prussia a far better candidate to lead any unification of Germany. Furthermore, from 1867 onwards, the Dual Monarchy of the Austro-Hungarian Empire meant that Austria couldn't join a united Germany without Hungary also joining. This was a major point of contention for German Confederation because Hungary was an ethnic clusterfuck with very few German-speaking peoples. Territorial holdings of the Austro-Hungarian Empire in the Balkans and Romania would have left the new German empire directly exposed to the brewing tensions and frequent conflicts in those regions throughout the 19th century.

On paper, Grossdeutschland does indeed seem to be the far better option; a bigger, stronger empire that dominates a huge swathe of Central and Eastern Europe. But this Empire would have been dominated by a weakened Austria constantly at odds with Prussia, religious division (Catholic Austria vs. Protestant Prussia), highly prone to territorial conflicts and uprisings, and would not have been a truly "German" empire.
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Looks like we'll get another bonus point
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>>71584433
anime paedo
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>>71584433
paedo anime
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>>71584433
Scarlets are fairly shite, so far, for forth place.

>>71584818
>>71584842
Fuck off.
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Why is it so dead?
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What are you listening to /eire/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnDQ_9MfpNo
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>>71585024
anime paedos drive away the non sexual deviants
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>>71585260
ok....
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>>71585024
Friday nights are always dead on /éire/.
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>>71585024
Need an abortion debate
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>>71585319
What else am I supposed to do with my Friday evenings?
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>>71585399
Get drunk
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>>71585260
So, posting anime keeps away the normies?

Sounds good to me.
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>>71585381
Can't get pregnant if frogweeb makes you cum with her toes

>>71585459
If anything it only makes me want to dominate you even more
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>>71585422
I can't get drunk on tea m8
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>>71585459
The smugger the better
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>>71585518
Stop drinking tea then melter
>>71585493
Frogweeb is a slightly overweight middle-aged man just like Jaggy, stop talking about him like that.
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>>71585614
>Frogweeb is a slightly overweight middle-aged man
>overweight
Being fat is inexcusable and I would never allow that to happen to myself.
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>>71585614
Jaggy is actually a grill though
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>>71584424
Eh, alternate history of that type is all fantasy larping anyway, my point about GD being "better" than KD was that KD was not "German Unification", it was a Prussian takeover, which may have been good for the small states' Realpolitik self interests, but not "German nationalism" in what will be derogatorily called a "purist" sense.
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>>71585732
>Being fat is inexcusable and I would never allow that to happen to myself.
Being a grown man who spends his days posting cartoon pornography online, however...?
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>>71585732
t. 3 chins
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>taute is taken off
>things go to shit
Really makes me think.
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>>71585754
And the pope's a prod
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>>71585934
He's skirting the line in his sentiments.
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>>71585782
>KD was not "German Unification"
True, but some things simply aren't possible in a practical sense.

>but not "German nationalism" in what will be derogatorily called a "purist" sense.
An Austrian-greater Germany with huge swathes of land in the Balkans occupied by non-Germans would have been worse for "German nationalism".

>>71585832
>mfw
At least I can't be judged physically for that when I go outside. I hide my powerlevel very well.
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>>71583808
theyre sold as a gimmick in sweet shops
t. bought them as a gimmick from a sweet shop in portlaoise
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>>71586165
*Austrian dominated Greater Germany
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>he hasn't played pool for free by fucking with the table in the basement of a hotel in turkey with the german speaking son of a turkish businessman
and ye consider yourselves irish
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>>71586041
wtf i love the pope now?!
>>71586165
>An Austrian-greater Germany with huge swathes of land in the Balkans occupied by non-Germans would have been worse for "German nationalism".
How so?
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>>71586276
>communicating with turks anyplace other than a kebab shop
>irish
choose one
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>>71586341
>tfw Turkish uncle
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>>71586341
the hotel was in turkey so....
mad craic was had there though. it was august of 2012 if i remember correctly.
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>>71586382
>the absolute state of the republic
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>>71586341
also fun fact: the kebab shops in switzerland are run by bosnians
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>>71586424
>the capital of the United Kingdom™ has shariah law
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>>71586425
Same difference
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>>71586424
I'm not responsible for the actions of my relatives.
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>>71586294
>How so?
Well, German nationalism of the time was built on the idea of uniting all the German peoples within one nation state. Including huge numbers of non-Germans living in the Balkans would have conflicted with that. And then there's the issue of what to do about the dual Austro-Hungarian monarchy.
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>>71586462
nah bosnians are barely muslims. they go to mosque on sunday (or whenever they go) but then they go have a drink at the pub and have some pork chops for dinner.
>>71586494
uncle through marriage?
theres only 3000 turks in ireland according to wikipedia
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>>71585614
>>71585754
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>>71586607
apparently muslims go to mosque on fridays.
you get my point though
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>>71586607
>theres only 3000 turks in ireland according to wikipedia
There's plenty in and around the Louth/Meath borderline afaik
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Munster lose.
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Have you ever been in a Turkish prison?
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>>71586165
>True, but some things simply aren't possible in a practical sense.
You say this every time you say the thing that ended up happening was better than the most commonly presented alternative. Either don't compare history to alternate history, or stop presenting this inanity as if it improves the case for why the thing that ended up happening SHOULD have happened.

>An Austrian-greater Germany with huge swathes of land in the Balkans occupied by non-Germans would have been worse for "German nationalism".
Would it though? Prussia had no problem taking over a third of Poland or part of Denmark.
And as it panned out, the thinking of the Russians and Serbs that Austria could be attacked without bringing "Kleindeutschland" into the war ended up causing more trouble for all of Germany than might have happened had they taken a clearer position in support of Austria.
Yeah, the Austrian empire presented a tricky problem to solve, especially paired with the goal of "muh purely German nation-state" (which Prussia compromised too), but apart from refusing to take a foresighted approach to trying to solve the instability there, the predominant justifications for keeping a central portion of the German cultural region out of the "German nation-state" is Ulster-Scot tier whinging about muh Papist Kaiser and other Prussiaboos too tied to the Frederickian narrative(s) than to "Germany" as a whole/abstraction, which only weakens the whole case for it as anything higher-minded that "hurr France bad (true), Prussia less bad (from a certain point of view)".
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>>71586494
Your grandfather's wife's daughter is a hoor and/or an eejit.
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>>71586670
well i suppose where all the turks went then.
>>71586759
no ive never been in any prison.
only one ive ever seen is portlaoise prison i think. lots of republicans there.
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>>71586711
We really choked that one away
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>>71586527
>Including huge numbers of non-Germans living in the Balkans would have conflicted with that.
Just oppress them senpai
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Alright, which one of you is this?
http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/more-than-50-residents-protest-outside-18-year-old-rapists-home-778737.html
>He was diagnosed with ADHD at a young age, adding doctors later said he was also on the autism spectrum.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7U3_9V0R2Y
>will never be this good
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>>71586844
Good game nonetheless.
Hopefully we learn a bit from this.
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>>71586767
>You say this every time you say the thing that ended up happening was better than the most commonly presented alternative
Unless you want to disregard the historical context of our discussion, highlighting that something was highly impractical is not irrelevant to the discussion

>Prussia had no problem taking over a third of Poland
This was before German unification was the dominant ideology of Prussia.
>or part of Denmark
Lands that had been formerly part of the Holy Roman Empire.
>but apart from refusing to take a foresighted approach to trying to solve the instability there
>solving instability in the Balkans
Good fucking luck with that.
> the predominant justifications for keeping a central portion of the German cultural region out of the "German nation-state" is Ulster-Scot tier whinging about muh Papist Kaiser and other Prussiaboos too tied to the Frederickian narrative(s) than to "Germany" as a whole/abstraction, which only weakens the whole case for it as anything higher-minded that "hurr France bad (true), Prussia less bad (from a certain point of view)".
Any chance you could clarify what exactly your point is here?
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>>71586960
>and of course it's a homosexual.
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>>71586899
That did't work out well for the Ottomans or the Austrians.
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>>71587183
It worked for hundreds of years for the Turks. Austria was just terrible. Prussians would sort it out easy.
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>>71587165
If you the actual articles he said they did it in banter with each other while still married. She'd hang a load of German flags around the house
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>>71587306
>It worked for hundreds of years for the Turks
True, but it's notable that Serbia was the first of Ottoman holding in Europe to gain independence. Of course this was thanks in no small part to the fact that by the end of the 18th century, Russia had finally got its shit together and was exerting both political and military pressure on the Ottomans.
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>>71587150
Nah just "an experiment that went wrong"...
It's disturbing he neither got prison time or support and rehab. He's sick and needs to be in a hospital otherwise reoffending is a certainty.
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>>71587146
>Unless you want to disregard the historical context of our discussion, highlighting that something was highly impractical is not irrelevant to the discussion
If you want to discuss the merits of the CONSEQUENCES of each outcome, as opposed to the feasibility, then it is irrelevant and bringing it up is implicitly saying that the argument doesn't matter. Like I said, if you want to discuss alternate history, don't use the fact that it did not happen as a mark against it.

>This was before German unification was the dominant ideology of Prussia.
Same thing with Austria.

>Lands that had been formerly part of the Holy Roman Empire.
Same thing with Austria.

>Good fucking luck with that.
You'd have needed a country stronger than Austria. Grossdeutschland, perhaps?
Besides, you can manage with a mix of ethnic populations if your main ethnicity is monolithic, Russia showed this.

>Any chance you could clarify what exactly your point is here?
Yes, it is a bit hard to convey.

My main point is that that pro-Kleindeutschland arguments flit back and forth from proclaiming "purity" of "Germanness" in their new state as their highest aim, then when challenged on the compromise of that inherent in their Prusso-centric "Germany", they start listing off reasons that are entirely Realpolitik as to why the small states should have accepted Prussian domination, and then when challenged on that (or given acceptance), they'll say anyway "oh but yeah fuck the Kaiser I mean them Habsburgs suck, bloody Papist domination we'd have if we shared the same state as them". Same bloody pattern that happens when Br*ts argue in favour of the "Union" that favours them, but against the one that doesn't.
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>>71587454
>Russia had finally got its shit together and was exerting both political and military pressure on the Ottomans.
I think WW1 showed that Russia wouldn't be able to be nearly as intimidating to a super Austro-Germany than it was to Turkey.
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>>71587536
How do children learn how to "experiment" (ie: engage in homosexual practices) though? He was either addled by being raped himself, or was addled by a perception-warping diet of pornography, as his autism would suggest may have been the case.
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>>71583382
Switch is looking increasingly shit. Think I'll just get it on Wii U and wait for a price drop.
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Welcome back, I'm Bryan Dobson.
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>>71587568
>If you want to discuss the merits of the CONSEQUENCES of each outcome, as opposed to the feasibility
I don't see the problem with discussing both.

>Same thing with Austria.
Maybe I'm just tired, but I'm not sure what your point is both times you said this.

>Besides, you can manage with a mix of ethnic populations if your main ethnicity is monolithic
Hungarians wouldn't have taken kindly to that. They had finally achieved parity with the Austrians following the Austro-Hungarian Compromise of 1867.

>My main point is that that pro-Kleindeutschland arguments flit back and forth from proclaiming "purity" of "Germanness" in their new state as their highest aim, then when challenged on the compromise of that inherent in their Prusso-centric "Germany", they start listing off reasons that are entirely Realpolitik as to why the small states should have accepted Prussian domination, and then when challenged on that (or given acceptance), they'll say anyway "oh but yeah fuck the Kaiser I mean them Habsburgs suck, bloody Papist domination we'd have if we shared the same state as them". Same bloody pattern that happens when Br*ts argue in favour of the "Union" that favours them, but against the one that doesn't.
I see what you mean. Well, there's no denying that many of the states joined the Northern Conferderation based on purely pragmatic reasons, but as with many things in history this was swept under the rug by Bismarck and co. What is telling though is how Bismarck was able to stoke patriotic fervor for the German nation state amongst the few hold-out states outside the Confederation during the Franco-Prussian war. This patriotic surge (and the subsequent Prussian victory) was fundamental to the successful foundation of the German Empire.

>>71587589
By the 20th century Russia had declined again, but for the bulk of the 19th century they were pretty formidable. Their military had learnt a lot of lessons from the 7 years war.
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Might reinstall Vicky 2
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Good evening, I'm Bryan Dobson.
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>>71588095
>Katherine Zappone talking on the news again
Her accent is painful, lads.
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>>71587927
> but for the bulk of the 19th century they were pretty formidable.
>burnt their navy as soon as the Crimean war started so that Britain couldn't do it for them
The Russians weren't even fully industrialised by 1917, throwing waves of men was their only strength. If it wasn't for the British army being a meme as usual that war would have been a stomp.
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>>71588105
I'm not Katherine Zappone, I'm Bryan Dobson.
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>>71587927
>I don't see the problem with discussing both.
You should see the problem about being unclear about what's being discussed, and you should also see that the feasibility of the thing that ended up happening is infinitely more certain than the thing that did not happen, making it (among other things) a less interesting topic to discuss.
It's a totally different thing to discuss whether it would have been "better" if something counter to actual history had happened than to debate how likely it would have been for something counter to actual history to have happened at all.

>Maybe I'm just tired, but I'm not sure what your point is both times you said this.
Pointing out that Austria's "problems" in an ideologically nationalist sense were comparable to Prussia's. Not in a realpolitik sense, of course.

>I see what you mean. Well, there's no denying that many of the states joined the Northern Conferderation based on purely pragmatic reasons, but as with many things in history this was swept under the rug by Bismarck and co. What is telling though is how Bismarck was able to stoke patriotic fervor for the German nation state amongst the few hold-out states outside the Confederation during the Franco-Prussian war. This patriotic surge (and the subsequent Prussian victory) was fundamental to the successful foundation of the German Empire.
Yes. This is "whig history" in action.
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>>71587943
Going to convert my EU4 game in a day or two.
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>>71588304
>Going to convert my EU4 game in a day or two.
Never bother with EU. Shite game.
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>>71587943
I never got into it.
Ever played Pride of Nations? [I haven't, even though I bought it].

I got it on Bundlestars a few months ago, it was too good a bundle to pass up, it was like 7 euro for a dozen turbo-autist strategy games, which appealed more to me back then, down something like 90%.

Now I only casually play CK2 and am looking forward to Stellaris becoming less boring when they make expansion packs for it.
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>>71588383
>shite game
Compared to the glorious masterpiece that is CK2, I agree.
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>>71588138
Admittedly the Russian military command made some really bizarre decisions during the Crimean war. But if you compare Russia during the 7 Years War where they were never able to decisively beat Prussia due to chronic logistical problems to the Russia that was able to chase Napoleon across the entire European continent, the difference is stark. They also fought well in a number of wars against the Ottomans throughout the 1800's.

>>71588302
>It's a totally different thing to discuss whether it would have been "better" if something counter to actual history had happened than to debate how likely it would have been for something counter to actual history to have happened at all.
Of course. But when discussing a hypothetical, certain claims may be made in supporting the occurrence that did not take place that fall outside what would have been feasible. That's why I'm of the belief that even when discussing the consequences of a hypothetical historical occurrence, it's important to remain within the confines of what would have been feasible given the historical context.

>Pointing out that Austria's "problems" in an ideologically nationalist sense were comparable to Prussia's
I'm sorry, but I'm failing to see how. Despite its expansions into lands outside the former domain of the HRE, Prussia was considerably more ethnically cohesive than the Austro-Hungarian Empire.

>This is "whig history" in action.
How so? Admittedly my understanding of "Whig History" is tenuous at best.
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>>71588169
Thought that was Clinton from the thumbnail.
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>>71588484
Ck2 is great but it's also too easy. Can basically rebuild the Eastern Roman Empire in 100 years.
>>71588430
> Pride of Nations
Never heard of it 2bh
>Stellaris
Bought this, can't get into it at all.
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>>71588515
Thought the Russians had Prussia on death's door until a Prussiaboo Tsar came in.
Being better than the Ottomans isn't really impressive from the 1700s onwards.
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need someone like pic related to mobilise the working class in this country
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Thurso here what's the craik lads?
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>>71588730
who
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>>71586341
I like Turkish girlfeet tho
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>>71588515
>Russian military command made some really bizarre decisions
Please tell me someone has the screencap of the adventures of the Baltic fleet on their way to the Pacific.
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>>71588756
Thurso
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>>71588629
>Thought the Russians had Prussia on death's door until a Prussiaboo Tsar came in.
True - especially after the Prussian defeat in the Battle of Kunersdorf. But Kunersdorf was only the last in a litany of Russian victories on the Eastern front. Yet despite all these victories during the war, Russian logistical problems prevented them from ever delivering the decisive blow. Essentially, if the Russians had invested in decent logistics, the 7 years war could have been over in far less than 7 years.

The Miracle of the House of Brandenburg is one of my favourite historical events because it was just so bizarre.

>>71588784
Ask and thy shall receive.
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>>71588784
Gotchu senpai

http //pastebin com/bjZxapL3
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>>71588682
Mobilise them for consistent political failure?
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>>71588515
>How so? Admittedly my understanding of "Whig History" is tenuous at best.
The past was rewritten to support the present and give it the air of an inevitability that it did not have before the current narrative(s) were written. It's basically the equivalent of saying "It's the current timeline!", and why it's so important to address the question of which timeline would have been a better one (a complicated question) separately from the question of the feasibility of each potential timeline, a question whose answer is literally a foregone conclusion.

>I'm sorry, but I'm failing to see how. Despite its expansions into lands outside the former domain of the HRE, Prussia was considerably more ethnically cohesive than the Austro-Hungarian Empire.
That's why I made the distinction between compromise in an ideological sense (we can't have foreigners in our German Reich), and "oh fuck we'd be taking Austria's problem on all of Germany if we united with them" (something that ended up happening anyway).
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>>71588844
>the battleship borodino reports being boarded by japanese forces
>off the coast of england
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>>71588844
Your the best froggy.

>>71588885
Thanks as well lad.
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>>71588885
That's just insane.

>>71588580
>Bought this, can't get into it at all.
I totally understand. I was hyped as all hell as it was the game I'd been waiting for for a decade, and I literally stayed up for 2 days in a glorious stupour, before realising it lacked depth worse than I could have imagined.

Patches fixed things to a less irritating degree, but I'd already exhausted the paper-thin depth in my first 200-year playthrough, so 90+% of my playtime is from the first two weeks of the game being out.
The new expansion "Utopia" seems like it'll fix things.

As for Pride of Nations, it seems to me to be like a hardcore turn-based equivalent of Victoria.
It's made by these guys: http://www.ageod.com/
And the deal I got was:
https://www.bundlestars.com/en/bundle/grand-master-bundle
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>>71588844
tbf even during the 7 years war I think Prussia could have done the dirty on Russia if it hadn't also been fighting France and Austria at the same time, with its only ally Britain probably wisely deciding not to bother with the continent.
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>>71588982
>next morning, trawlers limp home, the Royal Navy absolutely flips their shit and raises steam on the entire channel fleet
>suddenly the Russians find their sex-battleship fleet being pursued by TWENTY-EIGHT battlehsips
Damn, I miss when Britannia ruled the waves - so much more prone to doing shit like that over the slightest incident than the USA would be.

>>71589124
>tbf even during the 7 years war I think Prussia could have done the dirty on Russia if it hadn't also been fighting France and Austria at the same time
I'm inclined to agree. Prussia lasting as long as they did (and even continuing to conduct offensive operations) is a testament to their military prowess.

>with its only ally Britain probably wisely deciding not to bother with the continent.
Britain through money at both Prussia and Hanover though, and later in the war they sent 50,000 troops to support Hanover.
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>>71589217
*threw money

>>71588885
Very interesting - thanks for that.
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>>71589217
>Damn, I miss when Britannia ruled the waves
BORRA ESTO
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>>71589111
>pride of nations
Played that when it first came out.
Remember the turn times being the worst I ever experienced in a game.
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>ran out of beer
>offices is closed
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