PutinTV told me

yes life is truly suffering.
I really miss a nice russian wine or cheese in the evenings.

>>71461313
they are suffering due floods and other bad weather in southern europe

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/dec/26/supermarkets-fly-emergency-salad-from-us-spanish-floods

I don't think so, I think there were less Russians visiting our seaside, so that's bad for us.
PS, the sanctions against russia are either against politicians or against Crimea. Not Russia in general.

>>71461313
tfw no skeletal russianfu :(

>>71461313
kinda
our fruit isnt really sold so its bought by europmonies andthen sitributed in our schools
so its not bad

in the first months, we had a huge surplus of food, so farmers lost quite a lot on this overflow. afterwards, however, we found other customers.
so no, we aren't really suffering.

>>71461313
russia exported food to europe? damn, we hear something new every day.

>>71461313
desu I doubt I ever ate anything that was made in Russia

>>71461313
You can buy all kind of Russian products in Russian stores like Mixmarkt here.

I thought we only embargp money transfers and your oil and you were the one putting the food embargo on our food.

>>71461313
Im starving :D

>>71461313
there's a Russian food embargo? since when?

>>71461313
Our farmers, mostly small family businesses lose about $100k every 8 days, all because Mutti and the Kenyan Nigger

>>71461335
I can barter some Rossiyskiy cheese and Isabella wine if you give me some english cheese

>>71461608
>>71461640
>>71461335
>>71461648
>>71461660
The food embargo is against the EU dumbfucks

a few companies are suffering because they exported to russia
but its fucked anyway with the chickenpox

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LEL you don't even know what's it all about

>>71461711
You should read my post you dumbfuck.

>>71461463
>PS, the sanctions against russia are either against politicians or against Crimea. Not Russia in general.
Yeah but then their government thought banning European food imports would be a good response. They even destroyed a whole bunch of cheese.

>>71461724
not a very good measure to ask 4chin neet autists from western world who dont even leave their basement

>>71461660
Just eat more superior Finnish cheese.

>>71461801
It was a good response.
EU applies pressure to politicians because Russians would never do it.
Russia applied pressure to EUropeans expecting them to pressure politicians, because EU has functional democracy.

>>71461700
You'd probably be disgusted to find out how much we subsidize our farms. Milk is like 5 dollars less a gallon than it should cost.

>>71461709
>Rossiyskiy cheese
Serious question. Why is it your dairies seem incapable of making good cheese?

>>71461932
>coming from a burger
pottery. seriously though I think they're getting better with the embargo in place: producing favourites domestically now etc.

>>71461932
People are poor and cheese requaires a lot of time to make it. Nobody gonna do it because the government can lift sanctions at any moment and nobody will buy their shitty cheese with palm oil.

>>71461884
>EU has functional democracy.
This meme really needs to end.

>>71461754
Fuck off retard.

>>71461981
Yes, none of our cheeses are good. They are all Kraft single cheese product and government cheese wheels.

http://www.thefiftybest.com/food/best_cheese/

>>71462016
Makes sense. What about the wealthier Russians in Moscow and SPB? Are they just buying black market foods?

>>71462042
you need to end

>>71461932
Shut up Tom. Rossiyskiy cheese is god tier.

>>71462089
>muh microcheeseries
seriously I love american food as a general rule, but most of your cheese is pretty grim to the european palette. sorry, but it's true.

>>71462123
The EU parlament has no deciding power.

>>71462120
I heard you can easily buy it in spb. Don't know about moscow. I eat cheese a lot so I buy it metro.cc. There is a pretty expansive brand from spb that is basically a rebranded cheese directly from Finland

>>71462133
I'm from New England so I've always been able to get decent cheeses (we've been making cheddar since Anglos got off ships here). However, I eat a lot of Swiss Gruyère and Dutch Gouda. We also used to make good ciders (Our orchards are basically cider orchards) and luckily that's returning.

>>71461884
>EU has functional democracy.
how is a non-oversightighted, unelected, no-end-of-terms bureaucratic monstrosity democratic?

>>71462164
I wasn't talking about EU as a democracy, but EU states as democracies.

>>71461899
Hear this every time I've seen farms in yankland being mentioned but you lads provide less support than a lot of other countries

>>71462288
We don't have pluralism here in Germany.
Pluralism is a basic value of a democracy.

I don't know how it is in Bulgaria but Germany clearly is a disfunctional democracy.

>>71462133
When in Murka get european cheeses (unless you are a pleb who cannot afford it).

>>71462192
That's good. I figured there was a way Russians were getting around it since Russians on /int/ always say how horrible their domestic cheeses are. I've also heard the Balkans make some decent cheeses.

>>71462311
Well yeah I guess you're right based on what I hear about the French farmers.

>>71462349
You have AFD and die Linke, if people wanted they could vote for those.
Germans having a big bias for center is not a problem with democracy, people don't want change when they have it good.
Germany has had it good for a long time.

>>71461932
>good cheese

It's not only cheese. All Russian food (I mean all, no exceptions, even fucking bread) has very low quality and for the last 3 years it has become even worse.

>why

Lack of competence and experience in making it, lack of appropriate equipment and raw materials, lack of competition with other producers.

>>71461313
>Russian Food Embargo
Is that a thing that exists?

When Russia boycotted our food exports we suddenly had an abundance of food.
Since then you can buy all kinds of mixed fruit snacks in the Netherlands for cheap. Which is great and healthy.

For the rest I don't thing we really noticed anything.
Shell has stopped with certain oil investments and is now investing in with hydrogen fuels for cars.

>>71462386
Can't say much about it. I tried it once 3 years ago it was quite tasty but can't buy it now so.

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>>71462450
Did a Google, bit old now but I doubt it's changed much
>tfw data from 2012 is now starting to become out of date
aaaahh

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>>71462504

;_;

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yes I had to eat my pet hamster yesterday please Putin have mercy

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Well, we won't be starving.

Thanks Russia. We now have the most healthy food in the world.

https://www.oxfam.org/en/pressroom/pressreleases/2014-01-15/dutch-beat-french-and-swiss-top-oxfams-new-global-food-table

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>>71462644
where the fuck do you manage to find the room to grow those vegetables? i can get the meat/cheese because of the cows everywhere, but still.

>>71461313
Our producers complained a bit, but it's nothing drastic. New markets are opening elsewhere, especially China. No one went bankrupt, and no one is suffering.

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>>71462729
HELP THE ROBOTS ARE TAKING OVER

Almost 60% of our clay is actually farmland.

>>71462729
efficiency, why else do you think most US and canadian mega farms are ran bu Dutchmen? If land is scarce, you git real gud at squeezing every guilder out of a square meter.

>>71462483
AfD is completly silenced right now in media.
Just as the Linke.

And when AfD is mentioned that only as neo-nazis.

Fake-news and Name-calling dominate our jornalism.

There is no alternative media here. We don't have pluralism. There is no way for many people to inform them proparly.

I heard you like Tulips, so I ordered to robots to build some Tulips.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAOVuSuQ4Ro

i had to sell my liver to buy food russia please unembargo :((

>>71462729
The largest artificial Island in the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M1_6ApfdMg

>>71462600
Why?
Thats mediocre cheese
Surely it could be eaten with stale bread

>>71462729
1. They have actually settled 95% of Netherland, so if you want farmland, its there

2. Its good soil, so you can grow a lot of things

3. Meanwhile Canada, Norway, Sweden and a whole bunch of others could do the same, but they don't, because nobody wants to settle the land to run megafarms.

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>>71461313
>sell tons of apples in Russia
>Putin puts an embargo on our apples
>turn apples into cider
>there's no embargo on cider
>make more monies than before

>>71463003
bolan can into capitalism

>>71463003
bravo bolan

>>71462915
Between Amsterdam, Rotterdam, The Hague and Utrecht you have.... endless grass fields for cows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=froRs3_jDTQ

wtf russia why you make me cry with this heavenly music ;_____;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DljgSrTbNE

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>>71463003
Whe llifes gives apples, make cider.
:-DDD

>>71462600

>He doesn't plant cheese trees

Seriously though, didn't some of your politicians get pissed and say that the food already in the country could have been given to the poor instead of destroyed?

>>71463003
wtf I love Poland now

>>71463065
You don't really see it on the video, but whatever. The asshole should look left and right.

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>>71463003
Devilish

>>71461313
GIVE ME A QT SPOOKY SKELLINGTON RUSSIAN GF NOW.

>>71461313
>PutinTV told me
pls source

didn't see it

>>71461313
Finland is loaded with excess dairy products because we can't sell them to Russia.

Also, Russians are smuggling Finnish groceries accross the border.

>>71461313
Actually food imports got cheaper because of Russia.

Many russians and ukrainians are trying to get moldovan citizenship in order to come here and either stay here or go to Europe.

Thank you Putler.

>>71461313
Up to 2.4 million Europeans may lose their jobs due to the Russian sanctions, because their work is in some way dependent on the trade between Russia and the EU. This would lead to a loss of 100 million € for our economy.

>>71463654
Sucking the economy dick must really end.
The ecomony resolves around a society not the society around a economy.

We use tools, don't serve them.

We all agree that Havarti and Gouda are the Elder God Tier of cheese, right?

>>71464485
There are actually many kinds of gouda cheese. In the Netherlands people also always check the fat percentage and age.

But different cheeses have a different role in the kitchen. Gouda cheeses are great because they can fulfil many roles. But that doesn't mean it should be used exclusively.

>>71463328
>Many russians and ukrainians are trying to get moldovan citizenship in order to come here and either stay here or go to Europe.
Autism

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>>71463328
>Many russians and ukrainians are trying to get moldovan citizenship

>>71462492
You are just poorfag.

>>71461801
>They even destroyed a whole bunch of cheese
Oh no, they shouldn't, they dared to put their hands on the cheese, motherfuckers it's time to destroy this commie country.

First they came for the fruits, and I did not speak out. Because I do not like fruits.
Then they came for the wine, and I did not speak out. Because I do not like wine.
Then they came for the jews, and I did not speak out. Because fuck jews.
Then they came for the cheese. And there was no one to stop me wrecking their arses to oblivion.

>>71463075
they did ofcourse
well then others told smthng like what to do, that's a procedure

>>71463328
>Many russians and ukrainians are trying to get moldovan citizenship in order to come here and either stay here or go to Europe
can believe you without this "or", it's just to go to europe

>>71461313
Our Mandarine and Milk priducers are butthurt, that's all I know.
Media isn't really going to report on bad anything tho since we are NATO.

>>71463704
Without a functioning economy the sedation of Europe through excess wealth could not be uphold, which would have terrible consequences for the status quo.

>>71465727
>the sedation of Europe through excess wealth
Eloborate what this is please.

>>71465812
Bread and circuses, basically. The average Western European is preoccupied with consumer culture and has no existential threat, as a result they don't have any incentive to react to things like mass immigration, slow breakdown of the social contract etc. They live in a bubble which keeps the whole ship afloat. What if your average middle class European would have to compete for resources with masses of immigrants all of a sudden?

>>71466014
You shouldn't base you views on wild assumptions.

>>71466268
It's not an assumption, it's pretty basic knowledge that your actions and general outlook on life change depending on whether your biggest problem is getting some food on the table or having the newest iPhone. do you think Hitler would have gotten into power of the entire German middle class hadn't been wiped out over night?

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>>71464954
underrated post

>>71461711
>Americans in charge of reading

>>71462849
What do they do with the bulbs afterwards?

>>71466427
Don't believe that our country is based on teenagers.

Majority of our voting population is 50+.
Show me them going for the Iphone.

Oh no, what will we do without the products of russian agriculture?

>>71462931
becouse this photo is propaganda. HUUR DUUUR WEARESTRONK
Reaaly - all people whos destroy that cheese...stolen piece of cheese for themself.

>>71467408
So you are saying... Russians have no worth ethic or morale?
Vile

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>>71467450
>ethic or morale
Pfffffffrrrr.....Bad for buisness.

>>71461313
Dont know if its diffrent in other countries who were more reliant on food importing but in Finland it just meant them reducing production and sell off the extra food for cheap. So was annoying the first few months and then just shrugging that they cant sell to russia anymore. The embargo hasnt been a news topic in like a year i think at this point.

>>71461640
I eat it every day)))))

>>71461711
Reading is for faggots, right?

>>71464954
This, desu. Wasting cheese is tantamount to genocide.

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>>71467450
>Russians have no worth ethic or morale?

Concepts like ethics, moral, empathy and humanity are totally alien to us.

>>71462801
We have alternative media, it's just that nobody cares to read them. Preussische Allgemeine und Junge Freiheit on the right, taz and junge welt on the left are all growing.

And reports about AfD are a result of their politics. Höcke is an extremist and calling that makes you unbiased and not the other way around. AfD can't have a an undefined, open border to the extreme right unless they want to be taken over by the extremists and be outlawed. They know that since the VS told them so. They failed to act accordingly.

And the far majority of Fake-News is produced be the extreme right and left. Get real

>>71467795
Tagesschau?
Muslimban?

This is fakenews.

I remember when that Ukraine shit happened and Tagesschau showed stuff from Syria as Ukraine.

All the war crimes calling during the Allepo siege?

This is all fake news.

>>71461932
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq5gvG8xDv0

>>71468017
Its impressive how russians can find ways to have fun at their work.

>>71467925
The media reported factually. It's your fault when you don't read further than the headline and introduction. Those incidents where they did report false information, they correct them. That's not comparable to bullshit stories from RT and sputnik shared on facebook.

And still, fake news come for the largest part from Russia. It's far too obvious to deny. I would post statistics, but you probably don't believe in them unless they are supportive of your world view.

>>71468271
>Those incidents
This is very euphemistic. When fake news is a basic part of your news this is not a "incident".

Also were did the correct that there is no Muslim ban in the US?

Also there is no evidence for war crimes in Allepo from Assads and the Russian Army at least.

Where were this corrections?

This is just a very few examples. I very sure if you wach the news now (little more than 10 minutes) you'll so find directly more open lies.

And I don't talk of private shit like Pro7.
This is our public telivision. ARD and ZDF.

>>71468457
They never said there was a total muslim ban, Where do you get this from?

There is enough evidence for reports, not enough for a conviction

http://meedia.de/2014/10/02/tagesthemen-moderator-thomas-roth-entschuldigt-sich-on-air-fuer-ukraine-patzer/

I need examples, not just bland accusations. You show exactly the result they want. You believe there is a large conspiracy at the top and there is no real difference in the democratic institutions between Russia and The West.
You are a shameful example of Putin's success,

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>>71462386
I tried Serbian cheese and it's the same as our cheese from Altai mountans

>>71468785
The term "Muslim ban" is already bullshit.
Muslims aren't banned in the US.

Just because I send blatant lies by adding words like "überwiegend, womöglich" (possible, propable) does not give me the right to send bullshit.

Those people have the obligation to inform. This does not inform.

>>71468923
>bans a bunch of countries because of terrorism even tho they've historically not been a source of terrorists (most of them)
>they're also all Muslim
it's the most accurate short description of the ban, the alternative is "Muslims we don't like" ban

>>71468923
And where exactly was the word Muslim ban or any German equivalent used in German public media?

But you have the right if you have multiple independent sources with corresponding news on a subject. That's how journalism works. You can't always have total proof. And when you have it like with the Russian state doping system, the Russians just say that it was only produced to hurt them and not address any of the content. Don't fall for this. Try to find out of journalists work and see the difference between us and them.

The obligation to inform doesn't mean that both sides get equal say. That's not how it works.

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>>71462492
I thought the Slav idea of good food was "enough to not starve"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mYqY5YELd0

>>71469221
I don't know the exact date of the report.
Search on Youtube Tagesschau and look for the last two weeks.
You should find it.

>But you have the right if you have multiple independent sources with corresponding news on a subject. That's how journalism works.
Thats how journalism should work. Ever read a news paper? They give a source. Besides regional news the source is always DPA (Deutsche Presse Agentur). From lots of sources and comments one has to decide what is published. Same for television.

>The obligation to inform doesn't mean that both sides get equal say.
Pluralism is a basic democratic value. No pluralism = no functioning democracy.

Yes in this country it does not work this way. You're right. And this is nothing that should be accepted.

>>71469221
>ry to find out of journalists work and see the difference between us and them.

"Them" I really hope you don't meant Russia with them.
Russia is not our standard that we should apply.

Also this is very worring. The acceptance of the control of information just because other not funtioning democracies do it too. Just shows how much of an ok it is to desolve democracy.

>>71469781
Most articles in newspapers are copied from DPA, AP or Reuters, correct. That's why you put more trust in those written by their authors and reports filmed by their own crews abroad. Something only ARD and the BBC have in larger numbers.

Pluralism doesn't mean I have to give every fringe opinion the same air time as an accepted worldview.

>>71469901
Of course Russia isn't our standard, but you made it seem like there were equal methods used in Germany like in Russia when I said that fake news is a problem mostly on the extreme edges.

If you compare a lack of different opinions in the media and call it fake news, you are the one who is weakening the basis of democracy. You delegitimize the media, the 4th pillar of a democracy that way.

Well, nice talking, I'm off to the gym.

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>>71464954
Think about the cows

pic kinda related

>>71462133
>european palette
>Implying that the UK's shit quality products is any better than America

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>>71463328
>Many russians and ukrainians are trying to get moldovan citizenship in order to come here and either stay here or go to Europe.

Yes I am unable to find qt Russian girl to eat out.

>>71470217
>as an accepted worldview
There is no accpeted world view.
And it's not even the same air. Alternative views are bascially non existend.
Pluralism means more views exist than just one. Example China: In china the one party controls the political direction of the country. No media and no Opposition is allowed to interfere or critisize this. This the way they do it and alternatives are not allowed.

Here they are allowed but, turned down and supressed. A difference.

Pluralism is possible here but highly supressed. This has to change.

>you made it seem like there were equal methods used in Germany like in Russia
This is what I think about this. In my view there are.

>>71470217
>If you compare a lack of different opinions in the media and call it fake news

I clearly called directly wrong statements Fakenews and not the lack of pluralism.