Question:
How do you Russians feel about foreigners (from the Western world) working and living in Russia?
I travelled to Russia last year as a tourist and met many welcoming young people who were happy to hang out and party with foreigners. I found it hard to determine whether most Russians felt this way though.
Any Russians on this board who could give me some insight?
Moving to eastern europe means you will be a foreigner for the rest of your life.
It's not hostility, but the way we are and our approach to language and the way it's spoken. You will never speak a Slavic language like a native.
>>71452975
How do Polish people feel about foreigners speaking their language? Does the mispronunciation and stumbling make you angry or do you appreciate people trying?
>>71452975
>You will never speak a Slavic language like a native.
N-No... No...
>>71452718
I fucking love that statue. Biggest woman in the world.
>>71453032
Of course we appreciate people trying.
Doesn't change the fact that even after giving an hour long speech in Polish you missed a case people would chuckle and not treat your seriously anymore.
Due to over-the-top complexity of Polish (and other Slavic languages) grammatical mistakes are jarring, people will notice them immediately.
Anglos are used to people all over the planet butchering English, we're not.
>>71452718
They have to go back and take me with themselves
We hate Westerners, stay the fuck out. Others are welcome.
>I travelled to Russia
Bullshit
>and met many welcoming young people who were happy to hang out and party with foreigners
Double bullshit. Young people hate you even more.
>>71452975
Fuck off, Poland. He was asking Russians, not Eastern Europeans.
>>71453145
>Fuck off, Poland. He was asking Russians, not Eastern Europeans.
t. churka
>>71453145
bullshit
people love new zealand
>>71452718
> How do you Russians feel about foreigners (from the Western world) working and living in Russia?
Good, they're better than middle asians.
>>71453145
>Young people hate you even more
lol no.
>>71453186
>let me tell you about your country
Older people are still naive from the time they thought Russia and West can be friends. Young people know you for what you truly are.
>>71452718
Well, prepare for people asking what did you forget in this shithole.
Overall, i don't think you face any hostility just because you are are from West
They're crazy dumbarses, that's what everyone in Russian would think about a guy who arrived from a 1st world county to stay here for a long time.
>>71453222
>let me tell you about your experiences
Again, no
>>71453222
Why are you so angry?
You'd be just "that strange guy" but nobody gives a fuck about people like that tho
>>71453178
Thanks bro, I really enjoyed my time there.
Occasionally though I'd meet a few more aggressive nationalistic guys who'd ask me about Crimea/Ukraine and the US... but it was only afew
>>71452718
No one wil care, especially if you're from a place like New Zealand.
>>71453178
Bullshit
Some people don't even know that Australia and NZ are the 1st world countries because we get our stereotype of them from 'Dundee crocodile'
>>71453304
Guess there are not so many Russian who can pick that country on a map
>>71453308
everyone knows that LOTR was filmed in NZ and itz butifel
>>71453275
I'm calm as the Buddha, just telling you the facts.
>>71453297
what did they ask
>>71453297
>Thanks bro, I really enjoyed my time there.
When you visited Russia in your dreams? Good for you. Just don't come here IRL.
>>71453367
It's not like everyone watched it, you nerd
>>71453370
>fuck off
>stay the fuck out
It's not really calm language.
>>71453415
That's just Russian interpretation of calm.
>>71452718
learn chechnyan because russian falls out of use
>>71453390
>>71453370
>>71453308
>>71453222
>>71453145
autism
>>71453297
Talking about politics irl is generally not a good idea
>>71453367
Haha, yeah, that's the most common stereotype
>>71453370
But do you really associate the whole western world with aggressive foreign relations? Most of us disagree with the US's wars.
>>71453415
It's direct, but definitely calm. Stop grasping at straws, not my problem that truth upsets you so much.
>>71453469
Our dislike of the West has nothing to do with US wars, don't play innocent.
>>71453429
That or a language barrier problem I guess.
>>71453469
>But do you really associate the whole western world with aggressive foreign relations?
Generally just US and NATO. And it doesn't really mean that people will treat a person from US badly, they may bitch to you about politics or something but it's not really a big deal.
>>71453531
t. pidorashka
>>71453531
Sorry.
>>71453515
Lol, I know English better than you, Zhang.
>>71453461
Not, im not an autismo
You should know better than anyone that we don't care much about other countries but our neighbors here
>>71453572
Are you calm now?
>>71453546
>>71453546
Good argument, considering that you yourself are sure that the country is full of """pidorashkas""". The question is about people in general, not about me personally. And now i'm talking to a liberast, well done.
>>71453572
Maybe drink a little to relax.
>>71453222
This is the truth
>>71453531
The impression I got is that there's a lack of communication. All the people I met had VK but few had a Facebook. Few had travelled to the west and few westerners travel to Russia. We just joke and view each other through stereotypes.
VK is pretty sweet though with music sharing desu
>>71453635
>when you lost the argument but still can't stop yourself from posting
>>71453729
>Few had travelled to the west and few westerners travel to Russia. We just joke and view each other through stereotypes.
Yeah, this is true.
>>71453729
>Guys, I totally visited Russia. See, I even know what VK is.
Are you autistic, anon?
>>71452718
>How do you Russians feel about foreigners (from the Western world) working and living in Russia?
Who cares?
>>71453810
Yes, completely, you have blown my cover.
>>71452718
Totally fine about foreigners.
>>71452718
>How do you Russians feel about foreigners (from the Western world) working and living in Russia?
Never seen a foreigner working here in my life.
>I travelled to Russia last year as a tourist and met many welcoming young people who were happy to hang out and party with foreigners. I found it hard to determine whether most Russians felt this way though.
I don't care about foreigners. I've met some in uni. They were ok
>How do you Russians feel about foreigners (from the Western world)
Exactly the same way Westerners feel about Russians.
>>71453032
>do you appreciate people trying
No. Actually it pisses me of. It's very hard to speak with people who can not speak normally. I don't know how americans and other countries who have a lot of immigrants deal with it.
>>71454106
>Never seen a foreigner working here in my life.
Kek. Untermench detected. In the Oil industry hordes of European/US expats
>>71452718
Do you are hot girl? If not GTFO.
https://youtu.be/K6k0_BJ0YwU
>>71454340
Пpoeбaлcя c пpeдлoжeниeм aнoн.
И дa, этo тянoчкa
>>71454340
Cute NZ boys are welcome ^_^
>>71453145
You remind me of Americans
>>71454547
Well, you worship them, so I guess it's a compliment?
>>71454476
>NZ
New Zealand? Do you want be eaten?
>>71452718
>How do you Russians feel about foreigners (from the Western world) working and living in Russia?
I have never met any of them.
>>71453145
Go fuck yourself, weirdo.
>>71453145
This, desu.
хyй
>>71452718
>How do you Russians feel about foreigners (from the Western world) working and living in Russia?
Pretty ok. It's pretty common in big cities. Kinda exotic for other places. Just like everywhere.
>>71454635
Do you live in a large city?
The smaller cities I visited had some African students and mongol workers but that was about it.
>>71454626
Maori don't look scary at all. A bit gay if anything.
>>71453145
>Young people hate you even more.
That's true, desu. I've noticed it too, that old and middle-aged people don't feel a strong negative attitude towards foreigners, but most of those who are younger than 25 hate the westerners with a burning passion.
>>71454806
lies
>>71454785
>Do you live in a large city?
No, I live in a small town.
>>71454806
And rightfully so. Btw, non-western foreigners: you are totally welcome.
I was kind of wondering the same thing.
If a Dutch person goes to Russia. Will your airplane get shot down?
>>71454833
Liberal hipster cucks from Moscow and Petersburg don't count.
>>71454855
> If a Dutch person goes to Russia. Will your airplane get shot down?
If only you fly through ukraine ;d
>>71454885
fuck off really
you appear in every related thread and spew your fucking putinist propaganda
I have never seen a person from another country in my life (except for people from ex-USSR).
>>71454615
Nah. We hate them. I had a Swedish teacher at Uni and she said she had never seen such dislike for Americans before in any other country.
>>71454962
Leave you home sometimes. I have seen tons of them even in my 60k people town
>>71454806
Well sadly yeah it was a few young (always men) who seemed quite informed about the war in Ukraine and Syria.
I get the whole national pride thing but don't understand why you would associate the whole outside world as so hostile...
>>71455012
I've seen westerners one time, it was foreign band (((
>>71455012
>in my 60k people town
I live in a 15.5k town.
>>71454976
She is a uni teacher surrounded by liberal students. What did you think the message she will get? American students in liberal colleges hate their country with a passion as well.
>>71455044
What band?
>>71455072
Slowdive
>>71455041
>why you would associate the whole outside world as so hostile...
A "besieged fortress" mindset, "whoever isn't with us is against us". 20 and even 10 years ago Russia was much more open to the rest of the world than now. We are slowly turning into a second North Korea.
>>71455184
>>71455184
You Will always have China on your side. That's what "the nationalists" in Russia told me. Quite amusing though.
>>71454976
So participating in their every single war and following every whim is some sort of a national masochism? Cool.
>>71455184
Yeah, that was the impression I got. Well I hope the internet bridges that gap (assuming the government doesn't block more sites)
>>71455241
There are different kinds of nationalists.
Pro-putin, pro-soviet, pro-Stalin "nationalists" and anti-putin, pro-european (in terms "we must learn from them how to live and organize our lives even if they are not friends") nationalists.
>>71455290
We need someone to fight the Chinese when shit goes south.
>>71455041
>Why do Russians dislike us, what have we ever done to them?
Are Westerners for real? Is this trolling?
>>71455320
NZ is nice
only britain and germany are bad, they installed communism and were killing us
>>71455297
So which one are you? At the end most human beings are pro good life and a sense of accomplishments.(including nation achievements of course)
>>71455305
Can a westerner exist without an external enemy? What is wrong with you, people?
>>71455345
They hate you all the same, dumb pidorashka.
>>71455348
I am observer
>>71455305
Implying the Chinese in your country won't have Oz compromised first.
>>71455376
I worship west's cultural and economic superiority
We need to throw r*ssian asianess in the bin
>>71455320
my point is we are a country of less than 5 million people whose main exports are Rugby players, milk/ sheep and Lord of the rings... I want to be friends... is that not possible?
>>71455450
New Zealand is the most loved anglo country here
>>71455295
>Well I hope the internet bridges that gap
The language barrier still exists. Russians don't learn about the rest of the world because 95% of them don't speak any foreign languages. So they have no choice what kind of media content and mass media they'd use, they are able to read only russian news, communicate with russian-speakers, watch movies, series and play games only in the russian translation.
>going to Russia
>>71455376
I try to think about it and i realise there's not much things to love about modern russia
would you love fucking putin if you were westerner?
Do you love Nigeria? Somalia? Iraq?
>>71455353
We just slaves to geopolitics like you my friend.
>>71455218
kamikadze is that you??
>>71455450
New Zealanders have this odd desire to be liked much like the canucks but without the passive aggressiveness.
>>71455462
That's simply because most peope are uneducated fuck and barely award of New Zealand's existence.
>>71455495
Implying Aussies know the true meaning of being slaves to geopolitics. You have it so easy.
>>71455462
Cheers Bro, would have a beer with you )))
>>71455477
Mmmm, true. I find it strange considering English is taught in schools. Do most Russians not want to learn?
>>71455441
>r*ssian asianess
You mean, "russian russianness"?
There are many countries in Asia much more successful and developed than Russia.
I used to know this one ukranian family who would lure western tourists to his village, and they ended up disappearing
Rumors had it he was part of an organ harvesting organization.
I wonder if theyre still in business
>>71455493
I'm hardly a Russian Patriot and I dislike Putin and the rest of this fucking government as much as the next guy, but there is a difference between disliking someone's government and hating them because of their nationality. People in the West are taught from the day they are born to hate you, to think of of you of less than human, to associate everything related to Russia or Russians with being bad, and you are worshiping them. Have some self-respect.
>>71452718
i never met them
>>71455450
>I want to be friends
Bullshit
>>71455578
> Mmmm, true. I find it strange considering English is taught in schools. Do most Russians not want to learn?
They are just lazy & and we don't communicate with westerners much.
In wellington you can find people & tourists from whole world, new zealanders travel and work in various countries.
Here it's very complicated. There is a visa barrier. For example over 40% ukrainians were rejected tourist visa in USA. Our numbers are big too.
There is a money barrier also.
>>71455581
They are successful bc they are westernized. We are as european as latvians or romanians.
>>71455611
I don't think there much HATRED.
>>71455611
This pretty much.
t. untermensch
>>71455450
Man that gay
>>71455578
>Do most Russians not want to learn?
They see no point in learning it. English language in Russia is mostly useless, unless your job is related to working with foreign content or foreign people.
Also, don't forget our education system is so retarded, teachers are so incompetent and educational materials have so low quality so they make the pupils hate any kind of knowledge.
>>71455663
Ah, I see. Thank you for explaining something that would have been awkward to have asked my Russian friends.
>>71455767
>my Russian friends
You have none. And that guy is not Russian, he is a proxyfag.
>>71455806
im not
>>71455806
This. A real Russian person would never make friends with a foreigner.
>>71455806
You really struggle with the idea that I fly Russia and actually met people... trust me after the visa was granted everything was easy.
>>71455845
>For example over 40% ukrainians were rejected tourist visa in USA.
>I'm russian
>>71455663
Yeah, yeah
and we should join EU and NATO.....
What a retard
Somebody please come to Russia and meet me.
>>71455920
We should learn from them how to live. We should visit Finland, Estonia, Poland whatever and FUCKING LEARN HOW TO NOT TURN YOUR LAND INTO SHIT
>>71455942
You should visit Finland, Estonia, Poland, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria and all the others european superpowers before talking nonsense.
>>71455942
It's impossible. There are more chances to polish a turd than to turn Russia into a nice country.
>>71454225
>oil
>untermensch
your bottle awaits you
>>71452718
>working and living in Russia
Silly silly foreigners....
>>71455965
agree finland shithole russia stronk
> Romania
You can joke about poverty and gypsies, but they just successfully protested over corruption scandal.
When we'll be good enough to protest about Yarovaja law, then you'll teach them.
>>71455982
we WERE relatively ok before 1917.
>>71456015
Seriously, go visit these countries you listed and see for yourself.
>>71455942
And also learn from China, Japan, Singapore etc
It's not fucking 1700, when there wasn't any alternative beside europe.
We should learn every sucsessful examples of modernization
I really think that you're just edgy white racist
>>71456015
>we WERE relatively ok before 1917.
Russia was never good, before 1917 we were okay only compared to some african tribes.
>>71456042
> And also learn from China, Japan, Singapore etc
They learnt from west.
> We should learn every sucsessful examples of modernization
perhaps
>>71456046
t. fucking commie
>>71456041
Agree russia stronk
>>71456046
>before 1917 we were okay only compared to some african tribes.
History - F! Sit down, boy.
>>71456015
>protest
Fucking liberal cuck
>>71456058
>t. fucking commie
Nope, I'm a russophobic nazi.
I think russians are like niggers, they physically can't create a sustainable and developing state because they're genetically inferior to whites and asians. Russia was shit during tsarism, Russia was shit during commie rule and Russia is shit now only because r*skies are subhumans.
>>71456062
He's right
Russian soldiers were amazed by the quality of life in Prussia when they invaded it during wwi
>>71456122
> I think russians are like niggers, they physically can't create a sustainable and developing state because they're genetically inferior to whites and asians.
In western countries we integrate and work pretty well.
Russians on west aren't worse than poles on west etc.
>>71456062
In 1913 (pinnacle of the development of Empire, commies even used to compare their stats with the numbers of 1913 till the 1970s) Russia was almost 2 times poorer than balkan shitholes. I think it says a lot.
>>71455863
You really struggle with the idea that no one is buying your bullshit.
>>71456150
Hmm, so like around 3 hundred thousands people compared to all 120 million living here, yeah
Why russians love so much polish people?
>>71456294
Apples.
>>71454976
*tips fedora*
>>71455218
>>71456329
*smashes_an_apple*
>>71455353
t. Russia
>>71455611
No one really gives a shit about Russia here in Australia, China is our boogeyman. Of course our media constantly shit talks Putin but you'd be hardpressed to find an Aussie that hated Russians and Russia in general.
>>71456358
>no u
>>71456294
I wish you knew russian to read this post
http://users.livejournal.com/-devol-/989333.html
hehe
>>71456150
Let me tell you one secret.
Every people on this planet are same, no matter whenever they live, no matter what kind of traditions they following. If you consider yourself a true european, you should know, that race and nation are nothing but social construction, my little white racist boy
This is true, we learn to hate Russians from a young age
We also have Russian minorities here but they are very opressed
>>71456388
Lol, sure thing, pal. And Nazis actually really liked Jews.
>>71456475
fuck off
>>71456454
>Every people on this planet are same
>race and nation are nothing but social construction
Do leftist really believe in that bullshit?
>>71456489
Kys, proxyfag
>>71456472
Finally, a honest German.
>>71453090
>Slavic languages
>hard
Come on. Most of them are piss easy after you figure out the basic grammar rules. English is much more ridiculous language. Grammar and pronunciation are chaotic mess.
>>71456534
everytime i see a russian, i dont say mean things, but i look very hostile at him, hoping that he will recognize my hatred
>>71456475
>>71456394
>>71456221
>>71456122
>>71456046
>>71455982
>>71453145
>>71455376
>They hate you all the same
literally nobody in the west has this attitude. some older people perhaps and that's it. it's a shame russia has such a fucked up nationalist mindset
>>71456454
T. commie scum
KYS
>>71456123
My grandfather said in WWII that German soldiers were very well dressed, mannered, and polite. Russian army he said were dirty, ragged, semi-literate peasant mob who wanted to steal everything they could and manhandle women.
>>71456606
>nationalist
There is no such thing in russia. Russia is not "le white racist bigot country", you've just fallen into /pol/ meme
>>71456606
hes just a fucking annoying vatnik
I already recongise him
>>71456606
>literally nobody in the west has this attitude
Yep, it is well known that Russians are really liked in the West. I don't know what is wrong with them if they think otherwise. Fucking russki commie nationalist scum the lot of them.
>>71456504
>>71456621
So why do you consider yourself european? You want Russia to become western country, so why don't you share such progressive ideas?
>>71456606
it's a Putin shill, just ignore him.
>>71456677
Kys, proxyfag
>>71454962
Why did you bother learning english?
>>71456705
>So why do you consider yourself european?
Because I consider myself Russian, you dumbass.
>>71456738
London is the capital of Great Britain
>>71456654
>A European neo-nazi arrives
Stop the presses, lads
>>71456705
He is a proxyfag
>>71456705
Polite correctness it's totally soviet invention.
I say this again: KYS putin shill and soviet subhuman.
>MUH WEST
Russian Empire was a european country. Fuck off.
>>71456738
Because it was a mandatory subject to learn in school.
>>71452718
You will be interesting for young people, most of them learned English at school but had never spoken with an actual foreigner. Girls have special interest because many of them dream to marry a rich (In Russia >$3000/month is rich) foreigner and be a housewife. Middle aged people won't give a single fuck. Oldfags could probably call you a capitalist pig in Russian behind your back.
>>71456758
what did you mean by this? you have some property here? I would love to show some russians the real london desu.
>>71456837
>Russian Empire was a european country. Fuck off.
Russia is a European country in a couple of rich hipster neighborhoods in Moscow and St. Petersburg. Everywhere outside of that is snow Africa.
So are the mad russians in this thread the stereotypes we see on the internet?
Or is it the other way around?
>>71456915
The only mad people here are Westerners and one proxyfag, as always.
>>71456837
>putin shill
So, everyone whoare not sharing same ideas as your's putinshills? Also, you're wrong, I'm not his supporter, because he fucked up everything in this country
>fuck off
No, my white racist boi. I'll stay here, until you will stop dividing people by their colour of skin and way of life
>>71456893
It just a first fraze, that kids in russia learns, when they begin to study english
>>71456915
Upcoming civil war.
>>71456900
Again, Russia today is a country that still under boleshevik control. Dude, our president is a KGB officer. Funny times are on their way, mark my words.
>>71456893
>what did you mean by this?
This phrase is a sort of meme in Russia.
>>71456900
Rare moment, when I totally agree whith czech
>>71457029
>>71457051
good lads for associating english with england instead of the burgers i suppose
>>71457100
We learn only British English in schools and uni
>>71457051
At least you learn the correct spelling I suppose
I mean, come on. This is what 90% of Russia looks like.
>>71457100
BE instead of AME.
>>71457139
>apartments on Sakhalin Island.jpg
>>71457131
>correct spelling
Explain. How "OI OI PAKI BOI" is correct spelling aside from Britan border ?
Sounds like a shithole.
>>71457177
>average salary is about 400$
Made me think and become a russophob.
>>71457100
We learn British English as standard at school here.
>>71457139
I don't think Sakhalin island is 90% of Russia, m8.
>>71457237
Have you ever been outside DC/DC2?
>>71457260
I have never been to DC/DC2.
>>71457206
In my first job i earned more than that with 2 days work.
Why don't you unfuck your shit.
>>71457298
r*ssians prefer to build tanks instead of roads and talk about "war with NATO" while their home is in ruins
>>71457287
DC3/DC4?
I don't think that some regions looks better than Sakhalin
>>71457298
>In my first job i earned more than that with 2 days work.
In my first job I earned 3500 rubles (about $60) for a month of working.
>>71457483
>tfw I earn that in 2 hours of work on weekends
>under 3 hours on weekdays
>>71457440
>DC3/DC4?
Nope. Not even DC5/6/7/8/9000
I have never been to a city with a population of more than one million.
>I don't think that some regions looks better than Sakhalin
My region does.
Btw, has anybody ever told you that your English is horrible?
>>71457298
Beyond saving.
>>71457579
Kek. Native speaker here.
>>71457614
are you the scot? do you have a pure conservative russian waifu? what do you do for a living there
>>71457579
>Btw, has anybody ever told you that your English is horrible?
nah, even my russian is horrible. It seems, that i have autism
>>71457648
i mean a native russian speaker.
You were close.
I have eye on you, gomie(c)
>>71457440
>Sakhalin
Almost every place in mainland Russia looks better than that shithole.
This is all very tragic t b h
>westerners a day make more money than you make annually
>>71457773
No, not really. After Moscow everything in Russia looks like shit. After Western Europe Moscow looks like shit. Sad.
>>71458036
>implying moscow doesn't look like shit
>>71458120
Yeah, I said that in my post. Compared to western cities it's complete shit. But in Russian standards it's a paradise.
I dunno anything about Sakhalin desu, it was just first picture I found on Google when I looked for a pic of Russian commieblocks. I guess it's shitty, right?
>>71458469
It's an isolated island way in the Russian far east. No shit it sucks.
>>71455376
Ironic situation here. We really don't hate you.
>>71459002
No one likes is either. And no one will be sad Russia suddenly disappears. Can really blame anyone for it, but it is he it is.
>>71459094
Fuck autocorrection.
>Likes us
>If Russia suddenly
>>71455376
Bruh. Only people who are extreme pro gay people are resentful of you here.
t est