How to address self-hate as an ABC?

>>71389953
Suicide

>>71389953
What?
I'm literally a Somali and I don't have this same hate that you do.

>>71389953
are you a girl?

>>71390010
Somalis didn't:
1) grow up with parents forcing them to act more like solmalis from Somalia
2) have a lot of stereotypes imposed upon them by the west

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>>71390149
Everyone has stereotypes imposed on them m8

>>71389953
go back to china

unironically if you get a good handle on chinese and english I think you'd do fine there at the very least as a translator

>>71390284
Not as much negative stereotypes as ABCs

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Visit China and stay for at least a year.

>>71390329
Is she made out of plastic?

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>>71390392

Yes. http://imgur.com/user/SexyCyborg

>>71390329
>>71390471
absolutely disgusting tits

Silly, become the same mainland nationalistic Chinese clones and you are going to be fine. There are 1.4 billion of them so you will never feel lonely anymore.

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>>71390536

for you

>>71389953
This self-hate you talk about don't exist in French born Chinese except for Chinese Koreaboos and weaboos.
Is that a thing in Anglo countries ?

>>71390739
Really? Do they assimilate well? I've been to Paris and the Chinese there don't seem to care a bit about being part of the French culture. But maybe I'm wrong though, after all there might be no particular french culture just like future French president (Macron) said.

>>71390739
Yes. Maybe it's the parents

>>71389953
she is beautiful

Go home

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>it's an elliot posts from beyond the grave episode

>>71390927
There's a French culture. The Chinese migrants keep to themselves, the mainlanders behave like mainlanders.
Their kids are banana. They know both cultures, went to the university, are integrated, don't cause troubles.

>>71390739
howabout the french-vietnamese? or are you lumping them into that

>>71390723
that has to be a tranny

>>71391209
Well the Chinese I met in France usually detest the french style socialism and "fake"(as they said) liberalism and have a stern belief the gov only cares about Blacks and Arabs. They like German/ German gov though, more conformist and less protest...etc.

I don't know any french-vietnamese. The french-cambodians I know of are well integrated too. I don't know about other SEA.
I've never heard of any problems or self-hate because they're Asian. For other things, yes, not because of their ethnicity.
>>71391410
That's unrelated to self-hate because they're Asian, but that's mostly true.

>>71391588
Self hate ABCs not asians.

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>>71389953
You can only realistically be proud of your own achievements. Go achieve something and stop being a pathetic cuck.

>>71391588
I think euros are more civilised in comparison to anglos

Unironically the germans seem capable of turning migrants into effecient workers, the only thing america turns migrants into is rappers or criminals

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>>71389953
brah

>>71391849
Would fuc

>>71391676
I talked about French born Chinese, then Asians on a wider scale.
You need a reason to hate yourself. Maybe there's something on the way you're treated in America or Australia.
ABCs are completely different compared to European Chinese (UK not included). They're less easy to live than those in Europe.

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>>71391818

>>71392013
My only choice is to try to assimilate into white culture or move to china. I don't want to be part of ABC culture

>>71389953
>Self-hate is very prevalent amongst westernised east asian

Speak for yourself faggot

>>71392247
I just did. You fucking ABC shitter

>>71389994
/thread

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>>71392131
Why do you have to make a choice? Isn't the Australian culture, the Chinese culture and the ABC subculture part of yourself?

>>71392131
Where wrong with ABC culture?

>>71392380
It's not as easy as 123

>>71392380
ABC culture is outdated wannabe intra-cultural revolution garbage
>>71392358
Yes but i dislike ABCs

>>71392276
>Make blanket statements
>I'm only talking about myself

I assume you passed English class yes?

this is why racemixing is an evil thing

>>71389953
You could solve the ABC problem by embracing the BBC.

>>71392553
Okay ABC shitter. Now go away

>>71392600
racemixing/immigration I meant

>>71392637
This. Make beautiful chocolate children.

>>71392637
British Born Chinese?

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>>71392550
Ok. See those cultures as tools, backgrounds that helped shaping you. You use the tools, you are not the tool. Are you a tool OP?
No? Then act like you want to instead of putting a label on yourself.

>>71390927
>assimilate

lol what? Asians never mix with other ppl

>>71392766
Beautiful Blacked Chinks

>I gotta conform to a specific culture
>I can't just be myself
>muh stereotype imposing on me

tip top kek how much of a cuck are you?

sounds to me you're becoming pussified as hell and can't think for himself for what he wants in life and tries to conform to something

Why don't you do what you want to do and not adhere to what other people think?

Me shooting guns and eating barbecue doesn't make me white nor does listening to rap and eating fried chicken make me black

it just makes me a freeman who can do whatever the hell he wants

seriously you self hating abc's have serious mental issues and should immediately administer yourself to a mental institution

>>71392856
I've met Asians from work or through friends or family in every French region besides paca.
They all had local friends Asian or not. They behave like every other guy, but they keep their culture.

>>71393209
I WANT TO BE WHITE BUT ABC KEEP GIVING ME SHIT FOR BEING A "SELLOUT" LIKE THEY HAVE AN AUTOMATIC RIGHT TO JUSGE ME EVEN UPON FIRST IMPRESSION

>>71393354
To be white. What does it means?

>hang out with a group of people of many different race
>ABC accuses you of being a "traitor"
Jesus christ

>>71393354
>ABC KEEP GIVING ME SHIT

lol ignore those faggots

those types of chinks are rare here

just come to America and hang out with me we can shoot guns and crack open a beer over a campfire :)

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>>71393437
Its a new worlder's issue i guess

>>71393437
As in i have friends who aren't ABCs

>>71393228
That's what I meant. They behave like normal guys and don't cause troubles while being contributors of France because Chinese generally speaking are practical people and rarely protest. But I don't think they(even the second gen I talked to) take the whole liberte equalite fraternity...thingy and other "french" french culture seriously.

>>71393515
With this definition of "whiteness" Europe is more than 99% "white"

>dont learn chinese because i dont fucking want to
>ABC accuses you of being a traitor

>dont like eating those chinese mooncakes
>ABC shames you

>>71393516
I'm really suprised you even make friends with abc's

Over here there are barely any, most of my friends are white, black or Latinos

only got like 2 chink friends

>abc thinks china is the greatest
>but for some reason they shit talk mainlanders and refuse to befriend them

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>>71393584
Europeans have no self esteem issues on their future, or at least have less issues as oppossed to the USA

Only in murrica do people unironically base their entire lives on this, to the point conservatives try their best to be the whitest despite that not actually meaning anything individually.

>>71393547
You mean chinks and (east) asian people in general are docile fucks who are happy to let themselves get fucked over.

>>71393616
I grew up in a Chinese dominated suburban area and only had abc friends until i went to uni

>>71393664
I actually dont understand this easier, i assume people grow out of it like i did, but apparently some don't

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I don't know about you but I think being surrounded by ABCs is probably a lot better than being surrounded by BBCs

>>71393547
Business and myself first. Politics is politics. You do politics, I do business.
That's really easy to follow.
They know of the French culture. That's enough. It doesn't means they have to eat baguettes and cheese regularly and they're not expected to.

>>71393778
Ofc it is. Because ABCs only shit on ABCs and leave everyone else alone

>>71393589
Human beings are weak so they mostly need to cling on something much larger than their tiny and insignificant existence. Obviously in that case for lots of ABC have to cling on the glorious Chinese culture and it's presence to feel validated in Australia. Simple as that. Interesting enough, there are many Taiwanese went to Australia and hang around mostly with Chinese became quite pro PRC and desperately want Taiwan to unify with mainland and be part of this incredible, unparalleled, tremendous Chinese empire.

>>71393723
lol that must kinda suck for you but now yu're mostly free to be your own man and do whatever the hell you want to make yourself happy. Your life doesn't conform to what others perceive you as its yours to do whatever the hell you want with it.

I admit when I was a teenager I became somewhat of a nationalist chink who dislike what the western governments did to China and japs most of all but I soon realized that all of that is meaningless because you can't undo the past only look forward to the future.

just do what makes you happy and fuck your abc friends who can't see shit past their own culture, friends who shame you for what you want to do or who you want to be are no friends of mine.

>>71393832
Someone said it already in the thread about being sent back to the gramps in China, but you don't have to get along with someone because he's from the same country as you.
You can't choose your family, but you can choose your friends and who you hang out with.

>>71393783
Then can we really call them "well integrated"? That's my question. For me it's purely, like you said, business. I'm not sure I'd like this idea having a bunch of newly citizens who have such different values from native citizens.

>>71390149
>>71390328
>Somalis
>no negative stereotypes

Have you been living under a rock?

>>71393911
Most ABCs had parents from the cultural revolution era and hasn't been to back to China ever since they fled there.

ABCs are just chinese wannabes with a chinese face

>>71394008
>I admit when I was a teenager I became somewhat of a nationalist chink who dislike what the western governments did to China and japs
Serious question, have you ever thought about going back to china as a teen and living there?

>>71394418
If you want to then just go. There is certainly no right answer on this topic.

>>71394418
fuck no its terrible there, everyone is out to make money for themselves and their family and will have no scruple for fucking you over because you allowed them to fuck you over.

My parents were from Kaiping and people there were pretty poor but genuinely nice and shit

Imagine 1950's America with the conforming uniformity of culture and safety but 10x poorer

All in all will want to go back once in a while and have a summer house in China to keep to my roots but liveing in America is the best option for me, after all my parents sacrificed their entire adult lives working for me and my siblings to have a good life in America so I will not sacrifice that by going back into the bosom of commies they so vehemently hate

all in all like what my parents say

Good to visit but not good to live

>>71394527
I just want to know if ABCs are all about "china is great" have they thought about actually going back

>>71394093
Integrated is not assimilated.
Their values are compatible enough. There's no clash or any really opposite values, unlike other ethnicities. They vote, take part on the daily life of their community and city, they contribute to society. They work. They're not harmful to the system (besides when they dodge taxes). Isn't that being integrated?

>>71394739
Do you even need to ask? Do you think those wave of mainland Chinese in Australia who vehemently wish to have Oz citizenships are just there to anger their parents and be an edgy teen ?

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>>71392856
In my experience the south east Asians assimilate in the USA. They still have this "azn pride 4lyfe" thing sometimes, but overall, very normal people. I've worked with a lot of filipinos who are very typical for Americans.

It's the far-easterners that tend to place themselves into communities of only their own and even after multiple generations are still completely isolated from the rest of us.

>>71394952
A 4th generation westernised asian full blood chinese still exists... They should just go bsck to china if they're going to be like this.
>>71394951
They just seem to love china so much i thought they should actually live there

>>71394902
>besides when they dodge taxes
I get happy when they do.

>>71394713
>the bosom of commies they so vehemently hate
That comes back frequently, here.

>>71390149
>1) grow up with parents forcing them to act more like solmalis from Somalia
Somalis literally have their clitorises cut off to conform with Somali social norms.

>2) have a lot of stereotypes imposed upon them by the west
I don't think anyone can ever use this as an excuse for anything. Negative stereotypes are not nearly as prevalent as you think, and they never have any effect on how you are perceived as an individual.
And Somalis are looked down upon a lot more than Asians. The only Asian stereotypes I can think of are that you are intelligent and that you have small dicks. Both of which really only work to your advantage.

>>71394952
>filipinos
I can't imagine them as anything but Nutshack-characters.

>>71395119
>And Somalis are looked down upon a lot more than Asian
For got reason.

>>71394902
Frankly I won't call that integrated still. I'd say living parallely yet harmoniously. But you have to take one important thing into consideration: there are simply too few Chinese immigrants in France to know if there's true harm. Much like all the immigrants, people usually raise their voice when they are sure the system is in their favour and that their voices are big enough to be heard. I bet you can have very much different views on Chinese "immigrants" from native Malaysian or Indonesian in these two countries compared to yours.

>>71395114
which is why I think we should deport all commies into North Korea to get them a taste of that shit.

Western commies want the best of both worlds of being a rich nation with all the infrastructure and convenience of a 1st world nation but have their needs and class to be equal with everyone which is really retarded.

Basically they're selfish fucks who never in a day had to subsist on plain bread or rice for a single day and they should all be deported to North Korea

>>71395248
Chinese malaysians and indonesian malaysians tend to come here anyway

>>71390739
Well i wouldn't say this is true honestly
American culture is global including the image they make of asians in popular culture, and many have the same problems as asian-americans it shows when you talk to many of them, politics or otherwise

Actual Chinese immigrants are detached from this, hang out with each other and don't have these problems it's true

But the kids that grow up with the French look to me a lot like American ones : the women date the bottom of the barrel of white guys for some reason and the men are nerds and self-centered and made fun of
Usually they have the opinions you'd expect on politics either being far-left hipster and "antiracist" or far-right and trying really hard to be considered assimilated

Yes no offense but judging from the ones i met, i bet they all have identity issues

>>71395363
What did you expect? Your country is literally surrounded by these two countries and at the same time being extremely rich.

>>71395248
There's this harmful image that they're too quiet and don't want problems. That's why they get targeted by pickpockets and bag snatchers.
On the other hand, they're buying everything and import their dodgy business practices. That's damaging.

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>>71395508
Those two countries are impoverished and incompetent cause they rejected them, and made us rich in the process

Somalis are generally regarded as the worst Africans.

>>71395354
Honestly North Korea is more of a fascist thing really. It's kinda funny because communism and fascism can be not really that far away.

>>71395555
I know. The Parisians I chatted with don't really hold positive views on them (us). I guess because I being a Taiwanese let them have this idea I am automatically against PRC so they let their guards down , truly fascinating.

>>71395579
Malaysia isn't that poor and it's improving rapidly.

>>71395800
Earlier generations wouldn't lower their guard so easily.
They become more integrated each generation. I know some French-Chinese who don't speak Chinese and don't know much about China.

>>71395913
People who do not want to commit to the culture they are moving two shouldn't be going there in the first place.

>>71395971
What about the Irish Americans in Boston more Irish than the real Irish or the region with their own German dialect?

>>71395394
Because ABCs always bicker amongst each other

>>71396163
I can't tell you about those places because I don't really know them. But if I visited boston, and I felt like their culture was at odds with my own values, I would not consider moving there. It would be inappropriate.

>>71395971
The thing is, in democratic countries like US, you can't really pin down what is the direction this country is heading. It was Bush's administration that went into Iraq war then suddenly it's Obama led liberalism hotspot and recently it becomes ...well, Trumps America. Yes, I might believe in democracy but I'm not sure it's that easy to find out what's true US views on pretty much every topics. The by product of democracy that is a divided society is so toxic.

>>71394340
It's not stereotypes if it's true.

>>71395913
I will say one thing though, among all the immigrants in Paris, the Chinese are indeed top notch one. Vietnamese are better though. And Paris does really have some on go zones for Chinese according to those immigrants.

>>71396422
>bush administration went into Iraq war
And then Obama continues those wars for 8 years. The very first president to be at war every single day of an 8 year presidency. Literally drops like a quarter million bombs in a year. Oh, and he won a noble peace prize. Mother fuckers.

But that's only tangentially related really. While there are ideals I'd like to see viewed as "American" and I would like America to wholly adopt, it's too large of a region to fully apply what I'm talking about.

If you were to move to somewhere like Moose Jaw, Canada. You should look at the culture of Moose Jaw, of nearby cities like Winnipeg, and the wider Manitoba area. You wouldn't need to agree with every fucker from Vancouver to Labrador, but if you already stand at odds with the people who live in Manitoba, it's probably a bad place for you. You're going to regularly come into contact and do business with these people.

Same idea if you were moving to Jackson, TN. Look at the culture of TN, Nashville, Memphis and maybe a bit regionally (up into Kentucky, down into Mississippi and Alabama) and if you find it doesn't match up with who you are what what you want, then don't go.

>>71397004
Best thing to do is to do is either be a token asian and take advantage of the privilege or move to china or move to a low asian population country/area

>there are Chinks posting on 4chan
>I'm still not letting go of the idea that only white men post on 4chan

>>71397164
How to be a token Asian? Impersonate lady butterfly and woos all the gook getters in the village while taking advantages of horny men?

>>71397208
But you aren't white either, how can you have such mental gymnastics without going insane?

>>71397348
Token asian means being the only asian in a group of non-asians

>>71397348
I love being the token Asian guy

Its all fun and games joking with each other n shiet

I can say shit no white guy can and its fucking hilarious but we're all cool with it in the end of the day and we treat each other with respect

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>>71397164
All I know is if I see an Asian move onto my street, and he's got something like a Gadsden Flag bumper sticker, I'll know he's my brother.

>>71397458
"Token" anything implies they're basically only there to balance the group and mainly applies to media. But certainly if you're hanging out with some liberal fucks who feel that they need to prove the "inclusiveness" of their group they may try and include a token Asian to this end. They're trying to be "friends" to create the outward appearance of tolerance, rather than actually being genuine friends.

>>71397653
I meant to post a different American flag picture, but I guess that will have to do.

>>71397625
Do you help your friends pick up asian chicks because they see your friends has an asian friend with them?

There is a special compound in the seminal fluid of anglosaxon men which when ingested abates feelings of self-loathing amongst people of an Asian orgin

>>71397705
No because there are barely any Asians here lol

>>71397818
Mate. You should take all your friends to an asian country and go to a club and pose as a local to pick up girls and introduce her to your friends and have them gangbaged

>>71397937
all my friends aren't the most adventurous types if you catch my drift

Most don't even have a thing for Asian woman, they're just country men with plain needs

The furthest they go out is maybe on a cruise to Bermuda

Didn't realise ABCs hated themselves so much
Maybe they should FUCK OFF back to CHINA

>>71398649
Or they could cut ties with other ABCs and get to know other people

Here we go again.
The weak minded aussie who can't deal with his own existence.
Just Kill Yourself m8.

>Somalis didn't:
>1) grow up with parents forcing them to act more like solmalis from Somalia
>2) have a lot of stereotypes imposed upon them by the west
You gotta be fucking kidding right?
Somalis are black. No one gets the worst end of the stick than blacks.
Stop being such a bitch would ya?

>>71398809
>No one gets the worst end of the stick than blacks.
You mean genetically, right? Because socially they're provided the greatest benefits.

>>71392131
>assimilate into white culture
Just assimilate to australian culture.
You don't have to lie to yourself, about being white.

You aren't white. DOesn't mean that you can't live in a western society. Lot's of immigrants in the US have learned to assimilate while at the same time accepting their roots and heritage.

Stop being a bitch. You live in australia. It's your job to assimilate. If not, then get the fuck out.

>>71398902
>Because socially they're provided the greatest benefits.
That's only a recent trend.
They got shit for hundreds of years, and they live in the lowest section of society due to many sociocultural factors.

Now, that societies are moving into welfare, it only makes sense that the very bottom of society, in many cases blacks, get some of the biggest benefits.

But in no way does it mean they are in a better position that whites or asians. Especially with respect to discrimination.

>>71398981
>Especially with respect to discrimination.
It's legally required to discriminate to their benefit.

>>71398911
Lets be real here. Western countries are a free for all. If a dominate race takes over the government wont do a single thng because half the government are either arabs or asians. I can only look out for myself here.

Minorities races needs to be kept at a 5% maximum or theyll make their little ethnic bullshit communities

>>71398716
Or they could FUCK OFF back to CHINA

>>71399116
Sometimes I really love these Aussies.

>>71399116
I just hate ABCs. Even mainlanders are staying in Australia. Why should ABCs leave and have mainlanders stay?

>>71399093
America is a free for all.
But Western/Northern Europe is definitely a welfare state.

>>71399192
How about Option 3 you both FUCK OFF back to CHINA. Ching chong bing bong FUCK OFF

>>71400692
Maybe you should make me?

>>71389953
You gotta stop being so insecure

>>71401748
>Just be happy bro

>>71401910
Honestly, while you may be in a position of frustration at this time, it's not the worst advice.