>tfw reading about the Swedish oppression of Finland Literally evil

What are you talking about, we gave them civilization.

>>71379350
You can't oppress an animal, they civilized them.

Here we go again

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You mean the Swedish civilizing of Finland?
>pic related mfw swedes hand over finland to russia

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>>71379427
It was bound to happen

Should have been more harsh with them 2bh

>>71379350
The only oppression that happened was by bad rulers who fucked the forest finns over. Everything else was good

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ITT:

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>>71379579
Ayo, wadda you say bout muh finns?

nothing wrong with it, the only problem nowadays are the swedish finns who must be removed

>>71379499
This.

Also, Scanian people were way more opressed than the Finns.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapphane

>>71379625
Literally inhuman

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>>71379350
oy, this thread again

>>71379407
>we
Taking credit of over 200 year old shit, fucking gaynigger. Also "you" did a shitty job.

We will never forget the heroes of the rebellion of David, who stood up to the Swedes in 1438–1439.
The name of King David will echo through time.

https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davidin_kapina

>>71379787
Yes we, swedes. We educated you guys, gave you religion and our way of life. Basically making Finland what it is today.

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>>71379407
>we

t: countrylarping NEET with no achievements whatsoever.


This is why swedes in /int/ are so cringy

>>71380007
wtf delet

>>71380024
>>71380036
http://www2.sls.fi/media/video/tarkiainen2_high.html

APOLOGIZE!

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>>71380130
Sorry i don't speak moron.

>>71380007
With your logic YOU are the reason why your country is one big niggershithole.

>>71380007

Life in Finland was the same in 1400 as it was in 1100 except for a worse religion.

>>71380195
>>71380217
>>71380248
EVEN THE MOST SUCCESSFUL AND STRONGEST FINNISH HISTORIAN SAYS IT'S TRUE!
https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kari_Tarkiainen

>>71379625
>tfw 50% scanian, 50% finn
gibs me them reparations, white boi

>>71380248
except for the towns

>>71380321

There were whole cities in Finland in 1100.
Merchants from all the Baltic sea countries came to trade in Turku.

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>>71380007
You were literally so bad at developing any of this land that the first mention of swedes ever caring for development of österland was form the times of Vasa. Before and after that we were left to pretty much on our own devices. And what comes to swedish "civilization" you gave us, well organized christianity and taxation. that's literally it. Nice!


>>71380316
Never even heard of him.


You're one truly sad persona if i've ever met one. Even brits don't sperg out so hard and start larping some internet imperialists.

>>71380430
kang...

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>>71380430

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>>71380494
>>71380507
? Not even kang. Try harder

>>71380494
>>71380507

You guys are the kangs though. Swedes didn't develop Finland but they did take our taxes.

>>71380571
Taking taxes were to build houses, hospitals, roads, and other financial stuff. How else do you think these get build? By karelian wizards or all mighty ukko?

Swedes only ever took from us, be it in the form of hellish taxation or getting Finns killed by using them as cannon fodder.
>we built you universities and sheeeiiit
Those were never intended for Finns, we getting them was merely a side-effect of Russians liberating us.

y'all niggas is gay

>>71380597

Hospitals killed more people than they saved until 1920s.
Roads like the bull road of Tavastia were Finnish work of the 9th century.

Houses? What?

>>71380597
Most of those taxes went to mainland Sweden. Such facilities in Österland weren't built for Finns, but for Swedish colonists.

I believe Finland should thank Sweden for bringing them civilization

Come on, its not that hard, just say "Thank you, Sweden"

>>71379350
the real redpill is realizing that sweden is getting their karmic fate in 2017 for what they did to finland

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>>71380597
Houses? what? People lived in houses already. swedish kingdom only commisioned few churches and castles. And those were built by naturally local workforce.

>>71380714
this :^)

>>71380661
>>71380670
I know you guys can't handle the truth but it doesn't hurt to follow this advice.>>71380709

>>71380737
You're in denial. You can't refute this, because you know it's true. >>71380670

>>71380709

Catholicism would have arrived in Finland regardless of Swedes, unless Orthodoxy took hold before it.

Finns were declared non-European last year and are hence not white. Pay your reparations Sven.

>>71380766
Just say "Thank you, Sweden"

>>71380774
No Finns are part of Sweden, we just need to acquire it again.

>>71380737

So basically you can't think of anything positive Swedes did in Finland.

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>>71380821
Just, like apologize for burning lappland. :^)

>>71380857
Genocide of Swedes is not far off, luckily.

>>71380714
Swedes are uppity little shits who have gay anus sex with each other while their wimmen take bbc.

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>>71380857
Yeah and you're part of Denmark.

>>71380821
How's Trävemunde, Åke?

>>71380926
>Denmark is part of Germany
Reich when?

Come on Swedes, can you think of a single instance during those 500 years in which you weren't a cancer to Finland?

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>>71381087
Jawohl.

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>>71381120
The whole time.

>>71381120
>built your first university(which was the second one in the whole of sweden)
>built roads and towns
>defended you from russian aggression
>brought you with us to pillage europe
these are all benefits

>>71379350
Finns are evil psychos who hate mankind and Russia's surprise VICTORY over them in 1939 was well deserved.

>>71381240
see >>71380670 and >>71380622

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>>71381087
>>71381194
And here I thought Finns were ok.

>>71381198

>Finns were heavily taxed, drafted to die in Germany and Poland
>Finland was intentionally kept undeveloped
>Finnish culture and language weren't promoted
>90% of the wealth was in the hands of Swedish speakers in 1800
>Finns had to work very hard and smart to fix the disparity over many generations after getting equal rights

So basically, fuck you for everything.

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>>71381260
Oh it's the slovene who hates finns, wondered where you've been.


Hows psychosis? Did some finn piss in your cereal?

>>71381301
kang isnt ok in the head

I lige Binland :---DDDDD

>>71381317
delet this russian propaganda

>>71381356
Unlike you i've been watching the poster count autistically as is my hobby. And when a swede posts the postercount doesn't rise, what's up with that? Are you ok?

>>71381356
Nordicist Finns by definition aren't okay in the head.

>>71381356

If he went to Sweden he would be the sanest man in the country.

Face the facts, Finns need to thank themselves for undoing all the shit you set up during 500 years to make our lives shitty.

>>71381281
why do you hold late medieval states and absolute monarchies to the same standard as post industrial societies?
i see alot of finns do this, basicly NO state developed for the poor.
what they did was build infrastructure and education that brought much development in the long run by increased literacy and trade.

>be finland
>get colonized by sweden
>get treated bad because of some pseudo science based on swedes' feeling
>dont even get thanks for fighting their wars
>2017
<finns enjoy white privilege blah black and must take refugees because misogynist pigs
REEEEE

>>71381451
>basicly NO state developed for the poor.
The thing is we didn't even have our nobility, as Swedes would not allow it.

>>71381451

Too little and everything you did heavily favored Swedish speakers.
Finns had to work hard to undo everything you did.

>>71381453
eugenics wasent a thing until almost 100 years after we lost finland.
you cant make this argument seriously

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>>71381453
You mean some finnish pseduo science based on fetish shit just like seppo has with his nazi crew

>>71381523
but i thought swedish nobility are descendant from finns?
i heard finns saying this.
really makes me think
>>71381525
it favored the rich and nobility, not swedish people.
and the rich spoke many languages, not just swedish.

>>71381527
Eugenics and Swedish racial science would've never come into existence if it didn't have any basis in Swedish mentality.

Objectively thinking we werent opressed or even slaves while they could have swept us out, or at least genocided everyone like they did to everyone else. Not even castrated like samis when sweden had their eugenics boom. We are least raped country in northern europe by swedes.I think they feel some gay love towards us

>>71381588

The rich and nobles 200 years ago spoke Swedish. It doesn't matter if they mixed with Germans or whatever, their social identity was Swedish and anti-Finnish.

You keep taking it for granted that Finnish speakers now have parity in wealth on average with Swedish speakers but they had it easy and we had it hard. You set up massive obstacles for us and we're supposed to thank you for that?
Thanks for making our lives shit for the longest time Sweden.

>>71381527
I wasnt making an argument to anyone. This just came to my mind that we suffer from sjw bullshit

>>71381588
Don't polarize or throw strawmen. The fact was the society you had favoured swedes and held finnish speakers at a very disadvantageous position even after reformation. It took literal blood and tears to undo this hegemenization and elitizisation of society. and it's still structured in our own bloody consitution in the form of useless ugly mandatory swedish.

>>71381701
Got any proof Swedes are anti-finnish?
if anything it's finns who target swedes, just look at this thread
>>71381706
what does social justice warriors have to do with anything here.
>>71381712
i dont remember this civil war between finns and swedes that would have required blood and tears.
from what i understand it was a peaceful process.
some good tyrants we are

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>>71379407

It's funny how Sweden is trying so hard to apologize for white people colonizing Africa even though Sweden had no part in it but they don't care at all about the people they actually did oppress because we're white.

>>71381864
1. We colonized Africa
2. You're not white
3. If you were white then we wouldn't have had to crusade the stick-wielding autism-ridden Sapmi-fucking animals that resided in Finland before us Germanics

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>>71381828
Nuh uh. you don't get to stick to one symbolic part of the argument. Answer the post as whole.


>>71381828
>Got any proof Swedes are anti-finnish?

As you've said this thread's enough for you to make the assumption we're ant-sweden i can make that ssumption too from this thread. Annoying obnoxious wannabeism

oh and this: >>71381930

>>71381964
wtf i hate finland now

>>71381930
If we're not white then why aren't you apologizing to us at every moment and blaming yourselves for it?

It's ok and normal to hate Finns in Sweden but if you hate blacks or muslims then that's a death sentence

>>71381998
I'll take "shit that never happened" for 500kr please

>>71381828

ITT Swedes are being anti-Finnish, Finns are being pro-truth.

Why would someone who is pro-Finnish use the words "By karelian wizards or all mighty ukko"?

Do you make fun of the old Swedish culture too?

>Sinfjotli insults Gudmundr by asserting that all the einherjar (Odin’s warriors in Valhalla) fought with each other to win the love of Gudmundr (who was male). Certainly he intended no aspersions on the honor of the einherjar. Then Sinfjotli boasts that Gundmundr was pregnant with nine wolf cubs and he, Sinfjotli, was the father. Had the active, male homosexual role been stigmatized, Sinfjotli would hardly have boasted on it


>"Muh Sinfjotli's cumpole and muh Gundmundr's mangina which pops out wolf cubs after anal breeding"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergi

Not so funny now? I think you should copy paste that and post it in every Sweden related thread in fairness sake to prove you're not biased towards Swedish culture.

>>71381998
its just part of our culture by now
i live in norrbotten and sometimes i see drunk and homeless finns who got beat up by a gang for younglings for fun

>>71382052
but anon im gay

>>71381930
Why do swedes expect us to ever want anything to do with you when you guys post shit like that

>>71382100

Anal breeding is to Swedish culture as Ukko is to Finnish culture. You can't escape from your gay past so easily.

Its funny how Swedes say Pekkas get mad at them about everything eventough its always some Sven who comes to talk shit first.

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>>71382054
Pretty barbarous, i thought you people were supposed to be the civilized ones.

>>71382054
Is that true? I guess it's ok to hate on a certain minority because they have white privilege or something even though we're not white according to you.

Can you imagine what kind of a shitstorm there would be if kids started beating up muslims

>>71382129
>fucking autistic mongols I hope you all die, we should have killed you be thankful t swedes
>why do they get butthurt t also swedes

>>71382108
... Because you have to? It's us or Russia, faggot, and I think even an ungrateful little shit like yourself knows who's nicer.

>>71382129
I'll take "shit that nobody ever said" for 300kr please

>>71382128
hell seger
>>71382129
it's always a finn behind a proxy who initiate these threads
>>71382131
we still have our inner barbarians inside of us

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Not this shit again.

>>71382186
>It's us or Russia, faggot
No it isnt and neither of you can do anything about it

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>>71382186
Holy shit you're mad. And btw it's not either or. We have been spitting on you both for the last 100 years repectively, And we'll keep on going for the next 100. And there's absolutely nothing you can do about it.


Stay mad fuccboi

>>71382186

Sweden is a weak and pathetic country.
We'll get rid of Swedish language eventually and severe ties with your 3rd world infested shithole.

>>71382272
autism threads are the best threads

>>71381260
Winter War ended 1940, Valdimir. But I'd guess history isn't your strong suit.

>>71382272
The Putinbots never rest. Always harassing poor Swedes like >>71379407

How many Russians are in Finland anyway? Are they just using proxies?

>>71382302
you wont be so happy when you get to drink the schwedentrunk made by these strong vikings

>>71382314

Swedes are literally the most autistic people in the world. Finns are capable of seeing all sides of the argument, Swedes barely even their own.

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>>71382131
Barbariet är inte det enda ursvenska, men det finns där, det har du rätt i pekka. Och vi ska väcka upp det igen du ska få se på ett ursvenskt barbari. Värre än vad som någonsin skådats på denna planet. Och barbarerna, vi, ni ska dra fram på våra gator och torg, genom våra städer och vår landsbygd och fienden kommer att darra och när stormen väl har lagt sig, så kommer vi inte att behöva sjunga om fornstora dagar, då kommer vi att leva i dom, i ett svenskt Sverige, för Sverige förblir svenskt. Hell seger.

>>71382358
HELL SEGER

>>71382358
Why is Pepe going to shoot the smug Pepe?

>>71382347
i-it's all just bait, pekka-kun~

>>71382452
>stormfags
>knowing how to handle a gun safely
choose one

>>71382186
>knows who's nicer
The russians. I cant stand how annoying one country like sweden can be

>>71382423

Swedish cuckbois can't even handle Jamal, let alone Finnish army.

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>>71382358
>I..i..ll write in my own language it'll surely give the text some punch.

Are all swedes this pathetic or is it just the delusional Neo-Nazi department?


Here'd s good message for you.

It's called.

"atleast something positive in your life (HIV)"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uxIgpKdPKc

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>>71382272
>tfw I fueled the autism in our nation
We're masterraces ;--DDD

>>71382186
>>71382331
>swedes unironically think they're a power comparable with russia
Swedes live in the past and with posts like these they reveal their underlying racist mentality that Finns are sub-humans destined to be slaves to either Sweden or Russia.

>>71382512
how's it feel that in reality we are the closest allies you have?

>>71382507

It would be infinitely better if Russians lined up and killed every single Finn than that Swedes forced us to learn their disgusting language.
Death is always better than knowing Swedish.

>>71382550
We don't own a lot in this world, but we do own you. Hence why you're forced to learn Swedish in school and why we've been dictating most of your governmental policies since the 1950's.

But don't worry about thanking us, your continued subservience is all that's required.

>>71382331
I live in central finland so I only see russian tourists every once in awhile. They've mostly been some couples in their 40s. The man is usually big balding and in hangover, while the woman is wearing a fur and amazed at finnish stuff/merchandise.
Some rich russian businessmen are purchasing summer cottages near the military bases, oh what a coincidence :^)

>>71382581
Actually that's Britain, Norway or US. But thanks for offering help sadly it's not really appreciated.

>>71382603
studying swedish feels like being schwedentrunk'ed, how can one language possibly sound so awful

>>71382628
i'd agree with you if you were part of NATO, but both of our countries have a mutual agreement that we wont join alliances without the other.
seems close enough for me

>>71382665
It's coming out of your mouth

>>71382616
> we've been dictating most of your governmental policies since the 1950's
That sure would explain why we have been cucked with socialism since 1950s and refugees since 1995, if that was true

>>71382665
you drink schwedentrunk often?
what combinations have you tried?

>>71382616
>we've been dictating most of your governmental policies since the 1950's.
That'd again be US and Soviet union.

Atleast show some intellectual knowledge of the subject before spouting absolute nonse

And what comes to swedish administration overall in our politics. It's a miracle that you can muster even 10 seats in our parliament.

>>71382706
Its awful coming from everyones mouth, Im starting to think your infamous torture methods were actually forcing people to say swedish sentences

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ITT roleplaying neckbeards making baseless historical claims

>>71382682
And we might just spit on those agreements.


We've been tightening relations with especially Britain and US. Whilst sadly this and probably next parliament will keep on the cold approach to sweden as you don't really offer us enough in terms of anything.

>>71382787
Think of it this way:
Atleast its not danish or russian

>>71382722
What was your theory, you just happened to become rich and wealthy? A Finland without Sweden already exists, it's called Estonia and I cry errytim

>>71382739
Nah man, it's all us. That's why you're not part of NATO or the SU, but are part of a dozen unions hosted by Sweden and the other much less relevant nordics.

>>71382790

We're not roleplaying anything. We sincerely hate you, your country and your language.

>>71382825
Yeah but it's hard to tell you're Russian with that proxy on

Hahaha I'm just joking. It's actually quite obvious

>>71382793
source?

>>71382727
No but my german and polish friends told its best served hot

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>>71382825
>WE HATE YOU
>what they actually mean
>y-yes master

>>71379350
That gif scares the shit out of me

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>>71382818
Oh gracious thanks for mutually agreeing on these unions that you let us in i'm forever greatful

Fuck off most of those unions are total garbage and prestigious only in name. The notable would be Nordic council and we'd probably do better without it desu as it only created brainleakage.

And what comes to NATO, we can join anytime and politicians consider it every day. that's how much we care about your opinion or our agreements.

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When has Finlan ever sent help to Swed

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>>71382825
>We sincerely hate you, your country and your language
Speak for yourself and your fellow buttravaged neckbeards, Swedes and Finns have always gotten along relatively peacefully.

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>>71382536
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1aXPhOtiK33

>>71382873

That's called a dumb cuck. You also have cucks like that, like the Swedish family man who runs the Swedish interracial tumblr.

>>71382818
>What was your theory, you just happened to become rich and wealthy? A Finland without Sweden already exists, it's called Estonia and I cry errytim

Theres no theory, how it happened was getting industrialized after ww2 and starting to build our own shit and later becoming first world level by hanging with other europeans, not swedes. No swede had any part in it and not even swedish speaking finns. Estonia is doing the same thing we did 70 years ago and theyre doing good for ex soviet state

>>71382958
No we haven't you mong.


You tried to bloody occupy Åland in ww1 but gladly german forces planted themselves there and blocked swedes.

After that you've denied allied access to Finland in Winter war and previously, you were one of the last major players to recognize our independence. Our relations became cordial after ww2.

>>71382958
Youre the ones shit talking us with no stop

>>71382818
>What was your theory, you just happened to become rich and wealthy?

How about forced indutrialization, finlandization, and extreme focus on innovation. You had literally no part on any of that.

>>71382946
We were there in every war of yours

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>>71383031

>>71383060
you dont think industrialization or innovation would have happened if you where part of sweden?

>>71382946
Yes when was a war ravaged infant agrarian country ever sending help to us very rich people. Sad!


Listen to yourself you babbling idiot.

>>71382991
Sorry dude, you're way out of your league with this one.

http://umu.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:143663/FULLTEXT01.pdf

Here's a 183 page report on what Sweden has done for Finland since the end of WW2. You're welcome BTW

>>71382958

A Sweden Finn posted in sverigetråden about how he has been physically attacked several times for being a non-Swede.

If Sweden Finns weren't descended from dumb leftist factory workers they would have stood up for themselves and hospitalized some Swedes.

>>71383094
What exactly is your point now?

>>71383121
More shit that didn't happen

We have like a million Finns in the country, if we attacked them on sight we wouldn't get any rest

>>71383132
that finland would have been more prosperous with sweden during the industrialization rather than being under Russia.

>>71383114
>what sweden has done for finland
Thats literally a study on what kind of cooperation we have done and not about how you have "helped" us

>>71383171

Damage control.
Swedish NRM nazis would love to kill some Finns.

>>71383172
Maybe, but we came to where we are now without being under neither

>>71383220
Keep reading

>>71383221
They are Finns though

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>>71383094
What? our industrialization happened and was forced because we had to pay the 300 000 000$ reparations to soviets in ships and war-materiel in 8 years.


I'm not really following you? Do you not think we deserve a nation state of our own where we are allowed to practise our own language, culture, traditions and way of life? If you answer no i'm sorry to say but your genuienly a horrible person spitting on the memory of everyone who ever did anything for this piece of land we call fatherland.


>>71383172
Ahh yes we indeed would probably be finns and have our own identity. hmm yes let me check that. We would probably be our own nation even then you dumb internet imperialist moron. You know this thing called nationalism? Were an certain ethnic group knowledges their uniqueness and drives it till they' govern themselves?

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We could dominate the european politics and prosper with cheap baltic workforce. Why is everyone against this? (Scotland and Schleswig-Holstein are not serious proposals)

>>71379350
spain talking about the evilness of others?.

>>71383274

Those Northern Brothers autists are Finns too right?

>>71383336
I'd rather have proper self governance.

>inb4 eu

Yeah well eu is shit.

>>71383343
At least spain doesnt seem so hostile and dindu towards people they raped 600 years ago

>>71383336

But Balts don't support gay marriage.

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>>71383336

>>71383384
what exactly did swedes do?

>>71383382
The EU already does give us tons of self governance. I don't think there's any way we could possibly be any closer without sharing a nation.

>>71383415
Well ofcourse sweden would be a minority language, so the thing in that comic wouldn't happen :^)

>>71383474
LET ME DREAM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yubBSVrSZWQ

>>71383474
Apparently foreigners think Swedish sounds awesome. Believe me, I've watched YouTube.

Finnish... Well...

>>71383474
swedish*

>>71383445
Well nothing, but youre so fucking butthurt and hostile

>>71383445

Made Finns lives shit for centuries and promoted your faggot culture.

When I was a kid I thought things like Santa Lucia was our culture but as you age you get wiser, it's foreign cancer that should be banned.

>>71380024
>when people of any European nation refers to an ancient group of European people as 'us' nobody complains.
For example when French or English people use 'we' when talking about the Romans
>when Swedes refer to a group of ancient swedes, literally sharing the same genetics thus making them literally the same people we get shit on
What the fuck?

>>71382331
>Blame Russia
>>71379407
Yes, we are.

>>71383499
finnihs sunds cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1yDP4U5hOY

I've seen Bergman movies; Swedish is awful.

>>71383509
>accuse us of being evil oppressing tyrants
>ask what we actually did
>n-nothing
>>71383527
now this is butthurt

>>71379787
see
>>71383528

>>71383499
Actually i've heard that finnish is one of the most beautiful languages in the world


>>71383528
You get shit on if you have serious tone. No one can take someone seriously who larps like he'd have any connection to a noble guy 700 years ago, pure madness. You're not the same blood and in the case it's not clear you probably were some poor ass peasant as was anyone else.

That's what makes countrylarping so pathetic.

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>>71383604
>finnihs sunds cool.
>I've seen Bergman movies; Swedish is awful.

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Could all the newfags leave already? You can't fool me, Swede-Finn threads were all chill up until maybe a week ago when shitposters from Finnish Flashback ruined everything.

>>71383499
You got it all wrong, we would all be speaking icelandic so that we big 4 (de, no, sw, fi) could all be equally butthurt, and iceland would have atleast one thing to feel proud about.

>>71383654
these kang vs konungaz threads have been going on for far longer than that

>>71383626
>>accuse us of being evil oppressing tyrants
Did I do that? I said spain raped people 600 years ago, nice how you assiosiate yourself with raping and ruining though

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>>71383657

Finland-Swedes from RKP Nuoret want to create a standardized Nordic common language and force us to speak it, in addition to Swedish of course.

>>71383633
Fair enough, I'm glad you at least have consistant logic. I also hate country larpers. I guess I overreacted, I just found it annoying that we were called out on it while others rarely are.

>>71383740
you compared us as we are in any way compareable
we arent
just as you said we have nothing to apologize for

>>71383765
>in addition to Swedish
I will find that girl and yell KAMELÅSÅ as I rape her

>>71383848
she'd think you're trying to propose to her

>>71383803
No I didnt, I said
>at least spain isnt hostile towards people they raped 600 years ago
They did wreck southern americans, but at least they dont come bullying them all the time. I didnt even compare you to rapists but you sure wont leave us alone about anything you ever did to/with us

>>71383889
Your women are weird around foreigners

>>71383765
I'm just replying to let you know am sorry about the behaviour of the Fennoswedes. I'm also sorry about my countrymen's behaviour in the thread. We're not all like that.

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loving these threads

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>>71383653
Well in all honesty swedish has a very monotone sound and it's pretty useless singing language since the swedes tend to end sentences in high note and the language in itself is very poemlike sounding.

Finnish on the otherhand is very complex, different and has vowel harmony.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhAn_UWsDwA

>>71384012
its why i prefer men

These are the best threads.

>>71384036
pitch accent makes it a better singing language than most

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>>71384021

When their voterblock in Uusimaa(""Nyland""") becomes marginalized they are beyond fucked.
Victory will be ours.

>>71384459
is it some kind of contest?
they are just living their lives in their country.
why are you trying to oppress them?

>>71384526

80-90% of them vote for their party, the RKP.
We just want to ditch the Swedish language officially, they can speak it at home and with friends all they want.
Anyway Somalians also want to live their lives here, what's the difference?

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>>71384036
Not everyone needs 8 repeated vocals in every word Lääniinkulta

>>71384594
i think a major difference is that somalians havent lived there/here for hundreds of years.

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>>71384606
It just makes it better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzXGdy8Et30

>>71384666

Does that give them a right to complicate Finns lives, support gay pride parades and welcome refugees?

Either way we are glad their numbers are slowly waning while Finns from other parts of the country are settling down in Uusimaa.

>>71384748
those things are mostly a product of our times, blame the globalist media rather than the average swedish speaking finn
they vote for their "interest" and the media tells them what their interest is.

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I know your feels Fingolians
Eastern-Nords are sub-human scum
Danes are no better than Swedes

>>71384748
Fenno-swedes are not what they used to be.
I actually don't mind all groups in europe gone.
t. Cai Göran

>>71379350
>Swedish oppression
They made us universities and guys who started the idea of independent Finland. Russian oppression was bigger cancer but atleast they us autonomy. I think what you did in south america was much more evil :^)

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>>71379625
>Giving a shit about scanians

>>71383336
Only if the baltic countries and iceland where in a junior position

When will Swecucks accept the fact that Finland is always right and they are always wrong?

have we ever opressed finland. please tell

>>71386495

Finns were called "China Swedes" in 1890s America.

>>71386538
No we weren't. We were called finns. Though we weren't very liked and especially H.P lovecraft hated us since we were obnoxious drunks.

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>>71386538
>>71386676
such conflicting messages :(

>>71386676

China Swede was a common insult towards Finns, especially among Scandinavian immigrant circles.

Finns were treated like shit there back then. Granted we weren't the only ones.

>>71379350
great thread lads

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>>71386775
Oh shit it's actually true.

Pretty fucking awful. Some swede even appointed that finns should be excluded out of the country as asians because of the asian exclusion act.


Haa fucking scum.

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Bow to me.

Finns were treated as equals and we did everything to help them

>>71387043
swedish amerians vs finnish americans

nothings changed

>>71387259

Matt Damon is 1/4 Finnish and he's on our side. He met our former PM who invited him to Finland. He will come one day.

>>71379407

Achmed, you have the citizenship, not the heritage of a swede.

>>71379407
This is true and F*nns cant deny it

>>71388074
The real question is, why the fuck do swedea bully us and tease us and talk about what yellow shits we are when you could be glad you have a neighbor country that shares its history with sweden other than wars

>>71380195
>speaks one of the ugliest languages on the face of the earth
>sorry i don't speak moron

>>71379530
And it still wasn't discrimination as they fucked everyone else over too. Equal opportunity oppression.

so where does norway fit into the hatred equation?

>>71391059
Every foreigner until now has called it really nice

>>71391059
I've only heard positive things about finnish :^)

>>71380670
*to fuel megalomaniacal imperalist wars

But yeah, I don't know what that guy is smoking.

>medieval and early modern taxes
>benefiting the people

>>71381120
Warded you against the bydlo in the east(for a long time9. That's gotta count for something.

Also Finnish written language was developed by Swedish-speakers. Also all modern instititutions and modern law came from Sweden.

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>>71391442
>Also Finnish written language was developed by Swedish-speakers.

Absolute bullshit Mikael Agricola was from a finnish peasant family by all accounts so save it.

>>71381317
>Finns were heavily taxed

As were Swedes, no discrimination here

>Finland was intentionally kept undeveloped

Undeveloped true, intentionally not true.

>Finnish culture and language weren't promoted

Priests had to preach in Finnish, Swedes created written Finnish language.

>90% of the wealth was in the hands of Swedish speakers in 1800

Undoubtedly true. I've seen some Finns on here claim that most of those people were Swedicized Finns tho.

>Finns had to work very hard and smart to fix the disparity over many generations after getting equal rights

Actually, Swedish speaking Finnboos were the driving forces behind getting Finnish the status it deserved.

>>71391535
Swedes dont seem to get that these "swedes" are finns who spoke swedish like half of this countrys population back then

>>71391442

The bydlo was very much like yourself. They taxed Finns but otherwise left us alone in poverty in our towns and villages.

We needed the bydlo to take over in 1809 or we would have probably never have become a country since you would have kept promoting your shitty language throughout the 19th century.

>>71391579
>Priests had to preach in Finnish

Only after Mikael Agricola (the finnish clergyman and preacher) had created it as an written langauge.

>>71391579

There were forces were hostile to the Finnish language in Swedish speaking circles and they were dominant by far.
It was only because the Tsar realized that he can get Finns on his side by promoting our language that progress actually started being made to give Finnish equal status in education and bureaucracy.

>>71387043
Top fucking banter

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>>71391866
Praise be Alexander II

>>71391866
The Suometar party was quite literally founded by Swedish-speakers.

>>71391748
It was because of the reformation. Before that priests preached in latin.

>>71391637
You will have to decide soon.

Either the Swedes were foreign oppressors, and thus all their deeds were their own, not yours.

Or the Swedes were also Finnish, and thus their good deeds are yours.

You can't go all muh oppression and then "THE SWEDISH SPEAKERS WERE ACTUALLY FINNISH!!!!"
Also it's not our fault you didn't set up your own state so we had to come do it for you. Our "starting position" was just as shit, actually shittier with gay ass Denmark to the south and yet we dominated your asses :))))))

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>swedish and finnish autists still going on with this shitty thread

Goddammit guys what fuels you to continue. Are we all really this shitty?

>>71392114

Agricola wouldn't have been a disciple of Freudenthal if they were contemporary so he's not a Finland-Swede.
That's a good rule of thumb. Finland-Swedishness is Freudenthalism.

Swedish elite have always been dicks, especially now.
Most people in Sweden were treated almost as bad as the Finns.

>>71392427
"Swedes" have lived in south-western Finland and Åland since viking age. Perhaps even earlier.

>>71392586

That's dubious. There were some Geatish settlements and some Danish too during the Merovingian age but they were a minority and ditched the Germanic tongue in favor of Finnish long before time Swedes came in the 13th century. If there were any Germanic speaking groups in Finland during Viking age then they fought together with Finns against raiders.

Finland-Swedish dialects have no older influence than 13th century Swedish.

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>>71392586
Åland maybe but there are no signs, or eddas or archeological findings indicating viking settlements in western finland prior to 1300. So no this land was not yours by right in any point of history.

>>71392586
First swedish settlers arrived there in 1100s, before that it was pretty much few random abos and forest

I cant tell anymore which nationality is more autistic, all our interaction is no u tier whining

>>71383343
>Le Sbain killed le six gorillion indjuns meme

fuck off, Evo. Vivan las Españas.

>>71392926

https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rikala

>Ulkomaiset kauppiaat, jotka pääosin tulivat luultavammin Gotlannista, kävivät tiuhaan kauppaa alueella. Metallit ja aseet yms. vaihtuivat suomalaisten ja hämäläisten turkiksiin. Rikalanmäen vieressä sijaitseva linnavuori oli varustettu alueen puolustusta varten. Halikonjoen varrella on olemassa muitakin mahdollisia linnavuoria. Suuret aselöydöt kertovat päälliköllä olleen käytössään aseistettuja joukkoja.

Tfw other half of my family is from swedish speaking coast and other half from eastern finland, what the fuck am I

>>71392793
>>71392815
>>71392926
You can't really call it swedish or danish though.
Even by 12th century it was probably barely distinguishable from each other.

The point is, there's archeological findings of norse/germanic (same shit by that time) stuff in south and west finland, around 800CE.

And I doubt the crusades to finland happened out of good will or only cause of DEUS VULT.
There probably already lived small settlements of swedes/old norse people there.
And "Sweden" went
>BRING FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY!
on finland.

>>71393331
No, the Ulfhbert swords and other assorted things you could call "germanic" were found in finnic mass graves in the graves of wealthy warriors.

The first reliable source of germanic presence is from the legends of the northern crusades to Finland.

whihc btw where heavily over-exaggarated as the arheoligical studies of the burial sites around 1000 Ad already show shifting to christian burial instead of pagan. This would mean that swedes came as only to bring organized christianity to finns opposed to the given belief that they came here with swords swinging.

>>71393576
>hey lets go and settle Svalbard, Greenland, Iceland, America, northern russia/Bjarmland, along the Volga river, Åland, Ireland, Britain, Normandy, Greece and Anatolia, Sicily, say hello to the chuds along the way, befriend the Oeselians, found the Kievan Rus', "co-found" Novgorod etc etc.

>But lets ignore this huge piece of land that we constantly go around both north and south of.

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>>71394064
Not really an argument is it Sven?


Maybe try harder next time?

>>71394064
>and this land is so close to us you can literally swim to it, or RO/w to it.
>Damn these ROUTSI are fucking stupid.

>>71394064

It's a well known fact Norse attempted a few raids in Finland but were chased back to their boats every time. It's even in your Sagas and the runestones you erected for people who got killed in Finland.

Besides, you did also trade with Finns on friendly terms particularly the Gotlanders.

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>>71387043
>>71386775

>http://news.minnesota.publicradio.org/features/199706/10_losurem_finnpoor/finnpoor2.htm

>Finns often faced hostility and discrimination from others. Their radical politics were part of the reason, but there were others, too. The Finns were known as "clannish." They had a strange, difficult language; their beloved sauna, was seen as an outlandish, barbaric custom. Finns had a reputation not just as troublemakers, but as hard drinkers and knife fighters. An American newspaper writer once questioned whether Finns possessed souls. The word "Finlander" became a derisive term of both ethnic and racial prejudice.

>Racial prejudice against Finns sprang from a belief that they were related to Mongolians. Some 19th century scientists cited the Finns' exotic language, which is completely unrelated to other European languages, as evidence that Finns were racially unrelated to Europeans as well. It was said that they descended from a tribe that migrated from Mongolia. At a time when federal law barred all immigration from Asia, a federal immigration committee investigated the Finns' racial background, examining them for such physical characteristics as small eyes, high cheekbones, round heads, or stocky stature.

Swedes are literally so autistic they insist that there Vikaaaangz living in Finland because "it's so close" when there's zero evidence of it.
Getting close to Black Egypt tier wewuz nigging.

>>71394663
We are only thing they have left to laugh at desu because entire sweden is fucking ridiculous, it would just be funny but its pissing me of that everyone hates us rather than swedes because theyre "whites"

>>71394655
And in present day swedes still have nasty attitude towards finns while you guys import everyone who isnt white in there. I have literal swedish ancestry but I'm triggered for my countrymen

>Sweden civilized Finlan
>Finlan rich country 1st world
>Russia ciivilize Kazakhstan
>total shithole
fuck you Russia

>>71394655
They did decide finns are white though and allowed finns to become american citizens.

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>>71395736
Everything russia touches becomes shit, I went to karelia and it was like time had stopped in 1944 my khan cousin

i just want there to be a one big happy nordic family here :(

>>71395819
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoENzQ-rOd0

finns = swedes no one thinks otherwise.

anyone have documents from finnish sweden if people saw themselves as swedes?

>>71379407
>Finland had permanent housing and agriculture thousands of years before Swedes were even a distinct people
>Swedes gave Finland civilization
It was the other way around Göran. You were the same horse riding PIE people along with the ancestors of modern day indians, ukrainians and what not while we were living pretty much the same way you lived in the 1800s

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>>71396076
enough swedish blood was used turning finns into 50% Germanics to let them go away.

swedish brothers to finns went to fight in winter war and die for their comrades.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOEmFg2EOR8

Reminder that Finland are the only Axis power that got away scotfree

>>71396245
No, they had to pay reparations to Soviets and lost territory.

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>>71379350
Its even worst thean opium wars !
This is face of white colonial rule over mongoloid/native population of scandinavia !

>>71396245
You want to invade finnland?
Soviets tried while bordering them.

>>71396176
Swedes always use that frivilliga card in denial with we fought their wars until 1800s and alone they are just a dick without its balls

>>71396457
finnland must retain the germanic race when sweden is exterminated, do not be absorbed by the jewish state of sweden.

>>71396543
Here we have an example of american education

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>>71382946
Well maybe if you were not so neutral all the time we would have helped you even after we helped you maintain your fucking empire.

>>71396543

You're that autist from /pol/. There's no Germanic race here so fuck off. Just Mongolians as far as the eye can see.

>>71382946
This picture makes me fume with anger. WHERE ARE THE POC? This blatant racist history revisionism is the reason why people hate /pol/tards.

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>>71383604
>Stöö

I like you, you are my favorite Colombian so far.

This is for you, hope you like it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSzc_UBGqf8

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>when you enslave and use and entire people as cannon fodder

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Is it true that finns looks white cuz svens raped them ?

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>>71396923
kek lmao I imagine in the future to say sweden has always been multi cultural we will see turds in pictures to say negroes always been here.

Sweden was 100% Swedish and 0% negro or asian 30 years ago.

00000000000000000000% negro or anything non swedish.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnAvNdVyJB0

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>>71384036
>Swedish useless singing language

Disagreed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkhCH5I7e94

>>71397034

>Swedes
>raping women

They only fuck men in the anus
see >>71382052

>>71397034
Science said fingols are its own race that isnt white, asian or black. Why people look white in finland is because everyone outside of north karelia mixed with europeans

>>71397034
No. Swedes rarely intermingled with finns and the and the most visible reslut of this woule be some inbred starins of fennoswedes. Other than that most finnish people share a maternal nordic line which would mean that some finnic bull impregnated some nordic women at some point.

>>71397198
so you raped men ?

>>71383528
>sharing the same genetics thus making them literally the same people
WE WUZ VIKANGZ AN SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIIT

>>71397119
>Sweden was 100% Swedish and 0% negro or asian 30 years ago
What an american we have here

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>>71397119
Sweden has always been multicultural... We took part in the slave trade and had africans in our court hundreds of years ago (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustav_Badin). History will in the future be more inclusive of POCs perspectives hopefully.

>>71379407
The reaction of Finnish posters to your posts shows me you are right

>>71397263

Homosexual rape is very common Sweden and Scandinavia in general.
Just last year a Norwegian politican got anally assaulted against his wishes. SAD. They have a culture problem..

>>71397119
To stress this, 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000%, absolute zero, ZERO.

>>71397119
You probably couldn't find the name of a single bantu tribe or language in sweden in all its history.

>>71397329

Your civilization= niggers, cucking, gay pride, gay adoption.
Things were better a thousand years ago.

>>71397314
jhahahahahahahah they have started the revisionism!

>>71397339
so they did rape your beoble ?
And how did you resist them ?
Did you fought guerilla warfare aganst them ?
I think finn are good at fighting just like their ancestors

>>71392227
Some of us can be bros and watch the autism fuel burn?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxN2la8LcRM

>>71397119
> or asian
> american education

>>71397450

Whether Swedes raped any male Finns or not is something I'd rather not think about.
We are glad to not have their shitty genes though.

>>71397523
then why finns looks so white ?

>Be Swede
>Massive silent anger due to death of your culture and sharia future
>can't lash out at muslims or leftists traitors because "racism"
>breaking point
>see based Finns over the border with national pride and basedness
>literally shaking
>"We wuz kangz, Finland needs more diversity"