"Nationalism is rising in Europe!"

>>71346779
>>Wilders will get BTFO

He won't, but even if he turns out to be the biggest, you cannot form a government with 35/150 seats (note that 35 would be a BIG win for him, he's unlikely to get more, if that) and other parties are unlikely to want to form a coalition with him.. The alternative is also going to be problematic, because they might need some shitty 7-party coalition that's mainly united by not wanting Wilders. We could also see a Belgium-tier formation period in which we're left without a functioning government for an extended time.

Ah yes

Trump had 2% of winning too. Hitler had no chance either.

independent of whether they actually get into power, they are rising in the polls significantly and have gotten much better results in recent years

>>71346779
Ignoring his policies, Geert Wilders looks really punchable.

>>71346867
This. Fuck off pastanigger without any idea how Dutch politics work

>>71346779
NEED an AFD gf to step on bollocks

>>71346880

Trump was the result of a presidential system in which any monkey that appeals to a significant part of the population wins unchecked.

Europe has parliamentary system, which means significant safeguards against a surprise apish uprising.

>>71348948
>parliamentary system
like weimar republic?

>>71346962
I second this

>shitalians

>plebs acually think right will change anything
top jej

>shitalians
>people
switzerland Austria and France should send Shitaly back to Africa

>>71349017
Yep. And without a harsh Versailles treaty and economic disasters, extreme political movements wouldn't have made any progress in Weimar.

I'd gladly vote for nationalists if they weren't also doing the very thing they're against: sucking dick. No difference if it's Russia and not the US' dick, actually even less benefits.

>>71348948
You Podemos voting Spic bastard. Franco missed a spot

>>71346779
That Dutch creature baffles me.
WHY IS IT ALWAYS THE HAIR?

>>71346779
I don't think the nationalist parties will form any governments. What I think will happen is that the popularity of these parties, largely spurred on by discontent, will push the more electable parties towards a more patriotic stance, Ie; less refugees, less non-european immigrants. Basically, we'll just move further right*, but not far enough to call it a paradigm shift.

*in regards to immigration which both the left and the traditional right wing has pushed. The former is the name of sympathy and "fixing the welfare state", the latter in the name of anti-union, pro-low wage neoliberalism.

>>71349470
They're also disgustingly Zionistic. Euro nationalists shill for Israel more than Euro Jews do.

>>71349497
Not an argument

>>71349347
italians girls are pretty cute tho

>>71346779
is that mad scientist shinzo abe in the middle

also i want to breed le pen lads

>>71349510
Wilders is a indonesian jew who hates white people and love niggers, all paid for by the US and Israel.

That's why he's pushing for less muslims immigrants and more african immigrants, because africans are more likely to breed with the natives.

>>71349017

Yes. Hitler only became Chancellor because Hindenburg proposed him. He didn't have any obligation to do that, but he did. Then Hitler proceeded to kill the Republic with, again, the necessary approval of Parliament.

The safeguard was there, it simply wasn't activated because the conservacucks thought it would be alright.

What safeguards are there in Murrica against the Absolute Monarch for 4 years aka President?

None. He's untouchable and unremovable.

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>>71349683

>>71350017
really made me think

>>71350141
She really wants the black vote.

>>71350017
I don't want this le pen I want the MILF

man can't wait to see shitskins in here start losing their shit once they start getting handed deportations right and left

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>>71349370
>versailles
>harsh

Italian education

>>71350578
Greeks themselves are not particularly white either.

>>71350616
never said they were

>>71349607
You're right, and that's kind of a shame for the people who support the nationalists. What they want is a change in attitude. To change the way the whole country thinks bout it's politics and society. The best they'll get is to change a few policies that'll either be irrelevant or be implemented in the exact same way as what they were against.

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>>71346779
>>Swedish Democrats will get BTFO

>>71349955
Hindenburg way anything but a politician. He was a former Prussian General who had no idea what he was doing, so he just apointed Hitler because he was influenced by him

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>>71350750
They will tho. M is just dragging themselves down with them.

>>71350795
man, can you imagine having to hand over deportation papers to over 5 million muslims in Germany?
Are they gonna go back peacefully ?

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>>71346779
>nationalism return was a 2016 Anglo-American meme
I hope you're... Right.

>>71348948
You do realize that the President is checked by Congress and has comparatively little power compared to a Prime Minister?

>>71350713
Europe isn't in the best place right now but it's also doing alright. Our societies haven't collapsed, our economies are relatively stable, nothing disastrous has happened. Do we want change? Sure. People want change all the time. But the situation here isn't so bad that it motivates a whole population to encourage radical nationalistic change. Ironically, the only thing that could do that would be even MORE mass immigration, even MORE incompetent socialist governments, even MORE multiculturalism, terrorist attacks etc.

When things are truly desperate, that's when Europeans go to the voting booth for extremists- or to the streets to get extremists in power through violent coup

>>71350611
Was it not?
The economic santions led to the hyper-inflation, and gave Weimar a terribly shaky start, with the Kaap Putsch, Munich Putsch, Spartakist uprising, freikorps, and Belgium and France occupying the Ruhr.
It didn't even begin to let up until the Dawes Plan in 1924, and Young plan in 29 which was originally saying they had to pay reparations until 1989.
Bruning's economic policy during the great depression was to show how fucked up Germany was, so that the west would take pity and stop collecting reparations.

Gustav Stresemann, the foregin minister, and one of the largest factors holding the Weimar republic together says something like "If the Allies had conceded just one minor point then they would have got the German people supporting them"

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>>71350855
I am Ottoman turk Gayreek

do not reply to me again

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>>71351026

Brexit wasn't really nationalism, Brits were never into the union, only their political class was.
Trump is full blown populistnationalism balkan style.

>>71351065
>Brexit wasn't really nationalism
True, but it was marketed that way. And it was a definite win for the nationalists in the UK.

>>71346867
God, this man literally shits on Islam and he's going to win the elections ?

I envy you, I wish frogs were as based as you.

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>tfw national socialist government

>>71351311
>proud the country is falling apart
cuck

>>71351298
Le Pen also 'wins' by that metric.
They have the biggest slice, but not enough to take the pie.

>>71351245
Getting less polish people and more Pakistani, Indian, Jamaicans and Nigerians is a win?

>>71346880
>Hitler had no chance either.
Hitler did a coup though

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>>71351398
For British nationalists who aren't white supremacists, yes. They belong to cultures shaped by British imperialism.

>>71351640
Yeah that makes sense. Most of the ones on here push a white supremacist angle however.

There is a 60% chance Wilders will win. And if he wins there is a 50% chance he will form a coalition. So, I'd say there is a 30% chance of him leading the country.

>>71351680
When it comes to radical ideologies, race supremacism isn't nearly as popular in Europe as it is in the Americas. It's all about the ethnicity, and if that doesn't work - history and culture.

>>71346779
im proud of Poland and the UK

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>>71351959
2bh if his party becomes relavent enough to win that many seats, would you agree that it would be likely that they hold a referendum (if they wished to propose it)?

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>>71346779
>AfD and UKIP will always be protest parties with their best chances being around 15% of the vote maximum
whether or not they become relevant in parliament, they still can hold a fair bit of power with the public

>>71352060
No. An anti EU referendum will probably be ruled out when negotiating the coalition. Our current prime minister is from a party he has to work with (classic right wing liberals) and they strongly oppose 'gambling with the economy' as they call it.

>>71349510
>That Dutch creature baffles me.
I have a slight feeling he might be a gay homosexual?

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"Anti-Islam candidate"
Explain this. He is literally ISIS.

>>71352266
No, he has a wife. Our current prime minister might be gay though. He's single and is rumored to be gay.

>>71352317
You just worry about your own state isis

>>71352319
>he has a wife
Proves nothing. If you have a lot of homphobic leanings in the Dutch public, then politicians would naturally hide their sexual leanings if they were gay.

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>>71352374
I´m moderate tbqh.

>>71352447
I thought you were greek

>>71350899
Riiight,because a the house of senate and congress aren't majority republican and haven't checked Trump as hr continually oversteps his boundaries as president.

>>71352399
Literally nobody cares about gays though.

Pim Foruyn was gay and if he wasnt shot by left wing terrorists he would have become prime minister.

>>71352045
Poland was never going to get anything but a right wing government to begin with, the only question was how radical it would be.

>>71352447
>pic
topest kek of the day

>>71349510
He wears blue contact lenses to hide his impure blood.

>>71352507
you have literal leftists spending out the ass right now, they don't call themselves left, but that doesn't change shit

>>71352537
t. Muslim

I don't understand.

US Canada and a lot of Euro countries have already lost a lot of safety (physical, economical) and quality of life.

People would laugh if you said 30/40 years ago Eastern Europe would be safer than Western Europe.


Why won't this all explode.

>>71352537
>impure
We conquered the Indonesians, they're ours

>>71350017
kek, good job.

>>71352497
McConnell and Ryan have called for an investigation into Trump's ties to Russia, and in any case most of what Trump does/wants isn't any different from mainstream Republican fare his rhetoric notwithstanding.

>>71348948
You are totally wrong.
We have a 2 turn majority election, winner takes all.
You can be the first party of your country in terms of sheer votes but hold less than 0.5% of parliamentary seats if you don't get over 50%.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/18/geert-wilders-attacks-moroccan-scum-launches-election-campaign/

>>71352651
>communist countries
>not safe, crime free and economically secure when not in meltdown
it's literally the appeal of the entire gig

>>71352505
This might just be because he got shot, but Pim Fortuyn seemed like a real solid politician who could've done a lot of good for both the dutch and europe. Most of all he proved that you can be against large scale immigration from MENA countries without having a shady history of extreme right-wing leanings, something that's only become a thing in recent years.

>>71352812
Wilders wants to ban the Islam, close all mosques, deport Moroccans who commit a crime, get our own guantanamo bay, leave the EU and UN, etc.

Basically turn us into Israel.

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>>71353033
Not that bad.

>>71353033
Actually he wants to strip them of the Dutch nationality and deport their whole family.

Geert Wilders seems pretty charismatic and intelligent, far more so than le pen or afd. He might win

http://www.faz.net/aktuell/niederlande-geert-wilders-bezeichnet-marokkaner-als-abschaum-14884782.html

>>71350888
Yes everyone who disagrees with a feminist online becomes a nazi.

>>71351298
He will neither "win" nor "lose". That's how Dutch politics works. All coaltions and compromise, no winner takes all, (almost) no major victories or losses

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>>71352962
You are entirely correct. Fortuyn was way better than Wilders and he had a very serious shot of becoming pm in 2002. Imagine all the far left nonsense that he could have prevented.

Fuck Volkert van der Graaff. Hope he burns in hell.

>>71352208
wew
>and they strongly oppose 'gambling with the economy' as they call it
>leaving the slowest growing economic bloc in the world is gambling with the economy

>>71350982
>The economic santions led to the hyper-inflation
No they didn't, the Germans being complete retards with their money supply led to hyper inflation aha.

Still apart from that one point you're completely correct. The TOV is probably one of the most self-defeating events in history.
FUCKING CLEMENCEAU

>>71355288
Indirect, but Germany wouldn't have been printing the extra money, if they didn't have the reparations to pay, so whilst it was Germans being mongs about it that led to the crisis, they were doing it in response to the reparations.

I wonder if Canada will ever have a nationalistic surge

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>>71346779
>you'll never have dinner with Frauke
Why even live?

>>71352962
Based Pim

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgM9JozWOf0

>>71357551
She'll make a good labourer at camp Shulz.

>>71351609
He attempted a coup in the 20s and got rekt. He didn't start trying to kill people again until after he got elected.

>>71346779
>Hofer
jewlover, really sad because his party was created by a SS member
>Le Pen
jewlover
>Wilders
jew
>Merkel
shit
>Schulz
jew

>>71352807

Second turn is in itself a safeguard.

Le Pen comfortably wins first turn and gets btfo in second turn because the rest of the political spectrum supports whoever the other candidate is.

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Wilders' Israel shilling is very cringe inducing