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"What language should I learn" edition

>Is OP a faggot?
>What language are you learning?
>Share language learning experiences!
>Help people who want to learn a new language!
>Find people to train your language with!


>Language learning resources:
http://4chanint.wikia.com/wiki/The_Official_/int/_How_to_Learn_A_Foreign_Language_Guide_Wiki

http://www.duolingo.com/
>Duolinguo
>Not a meme

>>>/t/746368 #
>Torrents with more resources than you'll ever need for 30+ languages.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B9QDHej9UGAdcDhWVEllMzJBSEk#
>Google Drive folder with books for all kinds of languages.

https://fsi-languages.yojik.eu/languages/oldfsi/index.html
>Drill based courses with text and audio.The Foreign Service Institute (FSI) is the United States federal government's primary training institution for employees of the U.S. foreign affairs community.These courses are all in public domain and free to download.Site may go down sometimes but you can search for fsi on google and easily find a mirror.

https://www.memrise.com/
>Free resource to learn vocabulary, nice flash cards.

https://lingvist.com/
>It's kinda like Clozemaster in the sense that you get a sentence and have to fill in the missing word, also has nice statistics about your progress, grammar tips and more information about a word (noun gender, verb aspects for Russian, etc.)

ankisrs.net/
>A flash card program

https://www.clozemaster.com/languages
>Clozemaster is language learning gamification through mass exposure to vocabulary in context.Can be a great supplementary tool, not recommended for absolute beginners.

https://tatoeba.org/eng/
>Tatoeba is a collection of sentences and translations with over 300 hundred languages to chose from.

radio.garden/
>Listen to radio all around the world through an interactive globe
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>>71266369
Why are Italian and Persian even mentioned?
Also, learning English, French, Portuguese, Arabic, Mandarin, German and Hindustani. Planning to start Swahili as well when it becomes available on Duolingo. Spanish one day
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>>71266579
My first thought it was the languages with the most number of speakers, but it's missing a few for that. Then I thought about countries with one language, but
>India
Also, why does it say Hindustani (shouldn't that be Hindi in English?) for Pakistan?

As for why Italian and Persian are even mentioned, reeeee. They're relevant languages with good literature and history.
t. learning Farsi
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>>71266579
>learning English, French, Portuguese, Arabic, Mandarin, German and Hindustani
7 languages at the same time? Are you even taking them seriously?
Take only 1, or a maximum of 2 if you want to go beyond ordering at a restaurant level. There is no way anyone can study that many at the same time.
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i'm currently learning esperanto and korean.
but i'm more focused on esperanto
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>>71268220
>>71268220
I believe Hindi only refers to the Indian/non-Muslim variant of Hindustani, while Urdu is the Muslim one, mainly spoken in Pakistan. Both dialects/languages are close enough to be perfectly mutually intelligible when spoken, hence the term «Hindustani».
Still sceptical for Italian, but fair enough for Farsi 2bh

>>71268924
I'm only actively working on my Arabic, Swedish and Hindi through the Assimil method. That's about 3 hours a day in total. Not being really serious on the rest, learning 5 to 10 words a day in Portuguese (B1) and Chinese (A2), so it might take me years to get a decent level, though I don't really mind. I'm kinda fluent both in French and in English.
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>>71268220
https://youtu.be/vxSd7p1i_TA
This guy explains it better than I do. Awesome channel btw
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>>71268220
what resources are you using for farsi
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i keep wanting to learn spanish for a few weeks, then french for a few weeks

so i never make any real progress because i can't stick with one
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Has anyone here tried learning Welsh?

>>71269341
Bona elekto, mia amiko.
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nem ezsem kutyat
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>>71266369
Wut
Almost everyone in Ukraine speaks Russian
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>>71270799
>nem eSZem kutyÁt
akkor mit eszel, macskát?
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>>71269976
Teach yourself complete modern persian (farsi), and Lone planet book thingy. There was a tumblrpost a few threads back that also had these, and more. Let me see if I can find them for you.
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>>71269976
>>71271639
Found it
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/fe6umhr6rvw7pn2/AACM15bieW1xO1LZiJ28Qh_Qa?dl=0
It was from this tumblr post
http://cosmogyros.tumblr.com/post/108962232110/huge-new-language-learning-collection
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>>71266369
>>Is OP a faggot?
Yes
>>What language are you learning?
German (beginner getting to intermediate), Spanish (intermediate), and French (advanced)
>>Share language learning experiences!
Years ago while staying with a host family in France, I made a humorous mistake
>anonnette, ou puis j'acheter une pipe?
>quoi? (look of confusion) une pipe?
>ouais, je voudrais une pipe
>uhh..
>pour fumer.
>ah, pour le tabac
>ouais
I then learned that une pipe is slang for a blowjob as well.
>>Help people who want to learn a new language!
ask away for pointers on anything specific
>>Find people to train your language with!
nah, I'm American and in flag. I'll be alright.
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>>71271487
but it's not official natinally, only regionally. in kazakhastan and kyrgystan it's an official language
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>>71271863
How did you get an experience to stay with a host family?
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>>71269341
>esperanto
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Haven't used Duolingo in awhile, still got a good score (Polish).
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>>71270031
learn french laddo.
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>csq accepted to study abroad in paris and nominated to study at sciences po
Still have another admissions process to work through for Sciences Po, but it's exciting as fuck nonetheless. I think when I get back to the states I'll work on my Russian.
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>tfw too lazy to learn languages
>tfw give up after a few days
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>>71266369

I have finally settled on French for real.

I almost considered switching to Portuguese bc of qts and there are more hues in America than Frenchies, but this is the move.
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>>71266369
Hey /lang/ -- what's a good Android ereader for reading foreign language books? For learning purposes, I mean.

With a good bilingual dictionary at the least. Or even more cool shit.
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>>71285948
Good choice anon.
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>>71269712
what dialect of 3rabi ya akhi
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>>71286010
Why don't you try newspapers?
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What is farsi and where is it spoken?
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>>71286948
Persian / Iran.
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>>71286915
Because I want to read a novel.

Also newspapers don't have an integrated bilingual dictionary either, as far as I know.
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Is it actually possible to learn Japanese when you're not a weeb?
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>>71287532
no.
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>>71285939
This. The key is to love the language you are learning.
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>>71271733
thank you anon
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>>71266369

>Is OP a faggot?
Absolutely.
>What language are you learning?
English, Italian, Matlatzinca, Nahuatl
>Share language learning experiences!
don´t choose a language just because you want to go to paris
>Help people who want to learn a new language!
I will, hard thing is that in spanish, there´s so much ways to say one sentence.
>Find people to train your language with!
Outside English and Italian, i think it´s hard.
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>>71285939
Honestly, you need to love, highly like, interest in the language. I´ve tried arab but i don´t like it, and tried esperanto but i don´t want to learn a lenguage just because "look at how many languages i think im fluent xddd"
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>>71271487
>Almost

Not "almost". Everyone speaks Russian there, even people living in the western regions speak it as a second language.
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>>71266369
This is an important question
what is your favorite type of game (emotionally attaching, mmorpg, replayablitiy, specifics)?
2d games or 3d games?
fantasy or realistic?

asking for a friend
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>>71285939

Im especially interested in your answer
>>71289592
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>what is your favorite type of game (emotionally attaching, mmorpg, replayablitiy, specifics)?
Sandbox, domino, sudoku, mmo, first person shooter (just because halo 1), ajedrez, adventure, fighting
>2d games or 3d games?
a combination of two, i dont like things like terraria or medal of honor
>fantasy or realistic?
I think every man made thing is fantastic.
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>>71289763
And my favorites games are:
Minecraft, Agar.io, Halo 1, GTA san andreas, Chess, Stairs and Snakes, Zuma Deluxe, Breakout Wars, Metal slug, Playboy Tetris, Bounce, Bounce Talles, Plants vs Zombies, Tower Bloxx, Erie, Happy Wheels, Sonic The Hedgedog, IMSCARED, Marvel vs Capcom.
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>>71289985
>And my others favorites games are:
a game about goofy making skate, Play Mobil old PC games, Dark Deception and Pac Xon
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>someone tells me they speak 5 languages
>ask them what
>they're extremely related languages like 5 romance languages or 5 slav languages
>mfw

MUCH more impressive if they knew 3 totally unrelated languages like english / japanese / turkish
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>>71271733
>>71271639

Do you know of any stuff on youtube that could help
I remember seeing a persian qt what played guitar and sang in farsi but i dont remember her name
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>>71290840
Is this a subtle reference to me? I'm the translator guy who posts here sometimes (EN/DE/SV/NO/DK/PT/ES/RU).
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i'm never gonna be good at turkish
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>>71290883
not with that attitude.
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>>71290840
>they're extremely related languages like 5 romance languages or 5 slav languages
that's literally the most practical way to go at it, though. Learn the languages you feel legit interest for no matter from where, and then just learn some basic - intermeditate level of the ones close to yours. No need to learn shit for bragging purposes
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>>71285939
>become obsessed with a country
>quit after a month because of college/work sucking up all of my time and draining my physical energy
>realize it's a meme language or my crippling social skills would never make use of it
JUST
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>>71290840
>every Serbian/Bosnian/Croatian/Montenegrin ever
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>>71290867
I don't, alas. I mean, I did some searches before I got my ooks and found some very basic videos, but nothing great. I tend to listen to some radio for at least 10-15 minutes these days (using radio.garden), and though I don't really have a great vocab yet, I do occasionaly recognize words. Also helps me with getting a good feel on the general "tone" and how a sentence should sound/"flow".
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I am still searching for someone to train norwegian/british english/very basic german with ;_;.
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>>71266369
>German Switzerland
>French Belgium
>Persian Afghanistan
>Russian Kirghizistan
>Chinese Singapore
>Italian Malta
>""""Chinese""""

What a shit map desu
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>>71296590
Sup
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Japanese language is good for your brain.
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>>71290840
Rate:
Arabic, French, English, Spanish and Italian
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>>71297066
Afghanistan does speak Persian, so does Tajikistan.
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>>71298495
It's not the majority language among the population and they have Pashto
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2年間ごろ日本語を勉強しています。最近、NHKニューズを読んでいるところです。いずれにも日本人にしゃべりたり、日本の番組などを聴きたりしなければならない。それに、フランス語が習いたいと思いますが、暇が足りないんだな。

君は僕のポストを読んだのをありがとうございます。
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Is it true you can learn languages fluently in days with LSD?
> It was a week before registration and it depressed me tremendously that I had not spent the summer learning German, as I had planned. I had intended to give myself a crash course so I could take second-year German, which I needed for my study in physics. I had heard of a woman who had learned enough Spanish in a few days, via LSD, to speak it fluently when she had to go to Mexico on business. I had taken LSD before, and while I couldn't see how she did this, I decided it was worth a try.
> I hadn't even gotten around to picking up a textbook, but I did have a close friend who knew German well and who said he was willing to "sit in" while I took the drug and try to teach me the language. Fortunately, I knew something about conjugation and declension, so I wasn't completely at sea.
> I wanted to get worked up and feel involved with the language, as it seemed that this must be at least part of the key to the problem, so I asked my friend to tell me about Schiller and Goethe, and why the verb came at the end. Almost immediately, after just a story or two, I knew I had been missing a lot in ignoring the Germans, and I really got excited.
> The thing that impressed me at first was the delicacy of the language (he was now giving me some simple words and phrases), and though I really messed it up, I was trying hard to imitate his pronunciation as I had never tried to mimic anything before. For most people German may be "guttural," but for me it was light and lacey. Before long, I was catching on even to the umlauts. Things were speeding up like mad, and there were floods of associations. My friend had only to give me a German word, and almost immediately I knew what it was through cognates. It turned out that it wasn't even necessary for him to ask me what it sounded like.
(1/2)
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>>71299040
(2/2)
> Memory, of course, is a matter of association, and boy, was I ever linking up to things! I had no difficulty recalling words he had given me—in fact, I was eager to string them together. In a couple of hours after that I was reading even some simple German, and it all made sense.
> The whole experience was an explosion of discoveries. Normally, when you've been working on something for a long time and finally discover a solution, you get excited, and you can see implications everywhere. Much more than if you heard someone else discovering the same-thing. Now this discovery thing, that's what was happening with me—but all the time. The threshold of understanding was extremely low, so that with every new phrase I felt I was making major discoveries. When I was reading, it was as though I had discovered the Rosetta Stone and the world was waiting for my translation. Really wild!
>After "Falling in love with German," on the basis of this one LSD session this student then went on the following day to read Mann'sDr. Faustus.He had both the original text and an English translation. By the time he had finished the novel, he found that he was scarcely referring to the English version. He also discovered that in having read that much German, he had developed a feeling for grammar structure and word endings that was almost intuitive. When his friend questioned him, he said he could not readily explain what the third-person singular past-tense ending was, but he demonstrated that he could use it. In this sense, he had learned the language asachild learns it, not as it is taught in formal instruction. When he registered for German 210, an intensive reading course, the following week, the instructor expressed skepticism when he heard the student was self-taught. Upon testing him, however, it was soon evident that his German reading comprehension was well above average.
http://www.psychedelic-library.org/staf5.htm
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>>71297066
>Russian Kirghizistan
Every ex-commie -stan speak Russian as a second language.
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>>71299221
>second language
That's exactly what I'm pointing out.

Might as well put French in maghreb then
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>>71299270
Yeah but Russian is also an official language in Kyrgyzia that's why it's on the map.
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Is "Cerveza, si!" really a valid greeting in Mexico? I'm talking about when no beer is involved, just saying it as a greeting, not asking for beer.
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>>71298753
Afghanistan is a multilingual state with a diverse array of different ethnic groups. Afghan Persian (Farsi/Dari) is one of the two official languages (other is Pashto) and serves as a lingua-franca for communicating between these different ethnic groups. Almost everyone can understand Persian regardless of ethnicity but Pashto has always remained exclusive only to Pashtuns.

t. afghan
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>>71299559
afghanistan, another victim of multiculturalism
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>>71266369
I don't know if I should learn Spanish or French
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I can try to help you to practice your russians skills(Skype and etc.) But my english is poor, I can understanding, but my speech is not quietly good.

(Have I some mistakes in the text?)

[email protected]
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>>71299477
is Duolingo diploma a meme or is an Anglia diploma better?
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>>71285948
Bumping this question.

Someone must know.
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>>71299815

>But my english is poor, I can understanding, but my speech is not quietly good.

"But my English is poor, so I can understand (you), but my speech is not (very/that/too) good." "Quietly" would not be used there.

Good luck learning, my man.
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>>71286664
Learning MSA so far, I might switch to Egyptian when I find some cool learning resources (but then again I'm really interested in moving to the Gulf region, so idk).
Which one do you speak?
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