How do you feel about the dark past of their country?

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>having an authoritarian past

>>71240476
>authoritarian and totalitarian past in your area of residence
Everyone loves the queen 2bh

It still is a hot topic around here, and pretty much divided the country

>>71240476
We dont have a dark past.

>>71240750
Why in the history of Latin America, many coups, dictators and civil wars?

Save for the occupation, we had no authoritarian and totalitarian past.


>I judged the Poles by their enemies. And I found it was an almost unfailing truth that their enemies were the enemies of magnanimity and manhood. If a man loved slavery, if he loved usury, if he loved terrorism and all the trampled mire of materialistic politics, I have always found that he added to these affections the passion of a hatred of Poland. She could be judged in the light of that hatred; and the judgment has proved to be right.

What is our dark past?

>>71240935
They made a pact with America to install dictators so communism won't spread or something of that sort

We Castillians don't have a dark past.We were and are always right

>>71241013
As far as I know before the advent of communism there were dictatorships. It began almost immediately after independence, these countries

>>71241172
>Castillians
How about Franco and the Inquisition?

>>71240476
Was never one

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>>71240935

The colonies here were military dictatorships at first. A lot of abos died due to them. Now the abos want recognition in the Australian constitution.

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>>71240476
Most of our people were tacit cucks to the Germans or full on collaborators. We had barely any resistance movement. The only real resistance was organized by the communist and radical socialists who were mostly killed by the Germans at the end of the war, with consent of the Dutch government of course.

We also killed Indonesian civilians systematically in the forties.

From then on we've mostly just supported pro-western regimes like any generic western country.

>>71240476
There was no such think in my country thus we feel nothing

>>71240476

Treatment of indigenous peoples and immigrants from Europe and Africa like shit is one.

>>71242521

But what about the Vichy regime?

The British Empire's history and crimes are not properly taught here. Britain has never really come to terms with its past. It's all sort of brushed over as "well everyone was bad back then". It's not on.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/worst-atrocities-british-empire-amritsar-boer-war-concentration-camp-mau-mau-a6821756.html

As for the island of Britain itself, we've mostly escaped authoritarianism.

The official opinion is that we were the first victim of fascist german aggression.

We in Russia's most popular politician Stalin. It's funny that even though many people love it, but do not want to live with him 2%. Our theme of terror during the period of communism is very sharp and society is split.

>>71240476
We do not have that problem, we have always been the good guys.

>>71242702
>Vichy
>Authoritarian
Cucks think that Petain was manipulated by Laval et Darlan.
Red pilled people think that Petain was based as fuck.

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>>71242820
Look up what Churchill did to the (massive) Greek resistance after WWII. The eternal anglo meme truly applies there.

>>71243028
oh I know, Churchill was complete scum

https://crimesofbritain.com/2016/09/13/the-trial-of-winston-churchill/

>>71243100
>https://crimesofbritain.com/2016/09/13/the-trial-of-winston-churchill/

We are told in the history books, that the British were always sadists in politics. This is especially true of the colonies

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>>71243368
yeah....

sorry about that rusbro

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>>71240476
Jorge Ubico

He was cruel but atleast the country was very safe.

>>71241195
This is correct. Latin America was never good.

>>71241013
>>71242216
Are just butthurt commies.

>>71243368
Russia sold Alaska to the US just so Britain couldn't get ahold of it.

>>71242458
>Most of our people were tacit cucks to the Germans or full on collaborators. We had barely any resistance movement. The only real resistance was organized by the communist and radical socialists who were mostly killed by the Germans at the end of the war, with consent of the Dutch government of course.

This is also true of France; their history books like to spin a romantic myth about the Resistance that conceals how most of them were communists and the large majority of French willingly collaborated with Germany. Charles de Gaulle, being a right-wing Resistance leader, was largely responsible for creating this myth.

>>71241195
>>71241013 is correct, there were dictatorships before but ever since the Cold War they've always been specifically "anti-communism" ones. This changed a little after the Cold War with the likes of Venezuela and Nicaragua becoming leftist dictatorships without actually being a proper communist dictatorship like Cuba.

>>71240476
Our dark past? Yeahyeahyeah we oppressed black people for 200 years. We know.

>>71245197
>but ever since the Cold War they've always been specifically "anti-communism" ones. This changed a little after the Cold War with the likes of Venezuela and Nicaragua becoming leftist dictatorships

Peru was also in the 1970s ruled by a leftist dictator Juan Alvarado who nationalized the entire economy and bought a giant pile of weapons from the Soviet Union for a war on Chile to avenge 1881. The army expelled him before it was too late.

Alvarado's plan likely would have succeeded too because Chile in the first few years of Pinochet was extremely weak and had almost no ability to fend off a serious invasion. Argentina also had plans in the late 70s for a war on Chile that never materialized.

And also, the dictatorships in the Southern Cone were an outgrowth of those countries' flirtation with fascism in the 1930s. This sort of thing was already present in their political culture and the US merely tapped into it.

>>71243368
Some of the stuff that Britain did in the colonial era was quite monstrous.

>destroy India's traditional industries
>force Indians to grow opium for sale in China
>mass famines result due to precious farmland being taken up with opium poppies

>>71245468
Or of course the 700 years of brutality in Ireland.

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>>71240476
If you erased disgruntled communists and the Falklands war out of the equation, the dictatorship was probably the most prosper time we had since the 1900s.

The Falkland War was, curiously enough, a gambit by both Galtieri and Thatcher to overcome their sinking approval ratings by waging a successful war.

>>71243100
Churchill supposedly just shrugged his shoulders when told of the Bengali Famine and commented "I only wish Gandhi were one of the victims."

FDR allegedly referred to Churchill as "hopelessly mid-Victorian" in his world view and presciently realized that the age of European colonialism was coming to an end.

We have an authoritarian present
Remove the queen

>>71243100
where are the sources

We were never eally close to a genuine authorian regime over here.

I guess there's still a lot of guilty feelings about our eugenics shenanigans in the 70's though

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>>71240476
France did absolutely nothing wrong ever, we're literally the good guys of History.

>>71241340
Especially that. You can add Krasy Bor to the list as well.

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>>71240939
>we had no authoritarian and totalitarian past.

>>71249713
Everyone was authoritarian until the mid 1800s with the possible exception of the US.

>>71240962
Not finishing off the kikes when you had the chance.

>>71250583
Liberalism and limiting the ruler's power in practice have always been part of European culture since antiquity. The European tradition held that the king ruled with advice from his great men and he was merely first among equals, not a god as in the Asian land empires.

>>71249713
Sweden was unique among European states in that the peasantry were represented in the Riksdag.

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We didn't have a dark past.

Or well maybe our civil war were both sides went haywire and in the end the pro-government nationalist whites just massacred most of the reds. But the civil war is still called liberation war in our cunt so i don't think it left any stigma.

Pic related.

>>71240476
No dark past here

>>71251468
Most of the reds survived m8. around 25k died in prison camps/were executed/died in battle/etc. out of nearly a 100k reds (and the numbers are just the armed combatants)

Our entire history comprises of fighting tyranny and villainy around the world. We are the good guys.

>>71242901
>but do not want to live with him

I would like to live in the USSR of 1929-1953. That was literally a golden age of our country.

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No dark past here

>>71252430
I think you wanna take out 1941-1945
Just have a feeling that wasn't a great time
Also not having food in the 1930s...

i dont give a FUCK about obliterating the native americans

>>71240476
not sure yet, as it looks like our dark period is now.

The Americans are superior once again.

>>71240476
I like our dark past. It's not as dark as most of us think desu. Darkest is present, people are running away like mice from ship because we're slowly but definitely sinking. This time for real now.

Napoléon, fuck yeah.

The Directory, and much later Vichy, are not points of pride, but we're probably necessary evils.

I'm pretty sure almost nobody feels much shame at our history.

>>71241340
Franco was Galician

Most people miss the standard of living we had as commies (it was funded by USSR).
I think collectivism makes sense to a degree, but the one party shit and no freedoms is taking it too far.
I like the west euro model, without the neoliberalism.

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>>71255569
>not the american model

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>mfw always good guy

Germanys past was very shameful desu
that's why almost no sane german would feel something like ''pride''
we accepted our dark past and we've learned from it.

>>71256716
You always were a kidder, japan.