Why do South Americans keep falling for the socialism meme?

>>71036387

You never let them fail at it on their own back in the cold war so now they're trying

>>71036433
Venezuela did.

>>71036387
brain wash

an ex guerrilla member is leading polls for Colombian presidentials in 2018 too.

socialism has worked well for us (not to confuse with populism). See Chile, socialist coalition make the country almost developed.

>>71036387
Cold-war fuckery, and domino theory.

>>71036387
>2015
reddit map

It was working back during the Cold War and was removed before it could fail on its own leaving people to want the good old days back
People keep singing this
https://youtu.be/YtNpLS4GQOA

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>mexican left
aight mate

>>71036673
i can alreadyy see the droves of colombians coming, after you ruin your country for a second time

for fucks sake

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Chile has Euro-socialist+neoliberal capitalist traits to be what it is: close to the first world.

>>71036387
too many niggers/poor people
the idea of getting free shit always lures them

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>>71036387
American neoliberalism works great for them.

>>71036387
As if most of those were actually socialists, it's all populist crap made by parties who used to have socialist ideals in their inception.

Why do American college kids keep falling for the socialism meme?

>>71036673
>socialism has worked well for us

Do Colombians actually think their country is socialist? Lol. You guys have one of the most free economies in South America. Only behind Chile I believe.

>>71036433
>>71036673
>>71036762
>>71036765
All this

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>>71037111
Because they have a for better insight into politics than the average fox news watcher.

>>71037111
They aren't anymore. Millennials are now actually coming out of college more conservative than they were going in.

>>71037131
with us I meant Latin America, real socialism, socialdemocracy. Chile's socialist presidents make the country as it is today. Equator never developed as much as under Correa. Uruguay is under socialist government too. Socialism in Dominican Republic has the country growing at a 6% rate every year, higher than any other country in the Americas. Bolivia never was better than now, thanks to socialism

>>71036673

> See Chile, socialist coalition make the country almost developed.

shit should be italy tier but """"socialists"""" ruined it

>>71037264
are you dumb, poor shitholes like bolivia or dominican bananalandia will always have high growth % because they are living in huts

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>>71037340
I remember this faggot. we discussed that in another thread. if all "poor shitholes" had high growth, there wouldn't be poor shitholes anymore. poor countries stay poor because economic mismanagement, unstability, etc, which is not the case of the DR or Bolivia now.

anyway, no. economic growth is not related or subject to the level of development in a country. pic related.

>>71037264
>>71037264
You are amazingly entirely wrong on everything you've said.

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>>71036673
>See Chile, socialist coalition make the country almost developed.
Colombian education

>>71037264
>>71036673
Why are you giving ammunition to them? You're giving reasons to be called dumb by them just because you are Colombian.

>>71036928
>>71037682
This.
Where is 'murica and its freedoms tho.

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>>71036387
yeah, look at those blue countries, by far the best ones.

>>71036387
>2015

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>>71037264

>>71036433
>fail at socialism on our own
Wait a minute, didn't we get the shit imposed on us for 45 years by Russian bayonets?

>>71036387
The answer is mostly Cuba, which is a large, cancerous growth infecting the region since 1959.

>>71038441
Blue Peru? what are you doing?

>>71038354
We have have more leftist policies still. Our law and system has been corrupted by that. We had a civil war because of retarded communist guerrillas.
Guatemala had the first socialist government in Latin America in 1945.

>>71037682
>>71036673
different governments for different cultures and different people. I have no problem with this.

But it's still not best for the United States of America

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>>71036387
Why do unitedstatesians keep falling for the Chaotic Evil meme?

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>>71038567

>>71038582
>Guatemala had the first socialist government in Latin America in 1945.

we had our first one in 1916 though

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During the Cold War, some very effective Soviet/Chinese propaganda convinced many of the less developed cunts that Marxism represented liberation from US/British/French whatever colonialism. Of course it was a canard because in reality, the USSR and China simply wanted to make themselves the colonial overlords of Africa/Asia/Latin America.

>>71038732
Really? My bad.

>>71038741
^THISTHISTHIS.

If you think Russians didn't merely create neo colonialist empire in Eastern Europe, you're even stupider than you look. Commie bullshit about anti-imperialist struggle is simply ruse for the colonization of your cunt by Moscow.

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>>71036820
AM LO 20 18

>>71038684
That's what we call justice.

>>71036387
>macri
>left

also right and left wingers are full of shit, national socialism is the way

>>71038741
Yeah but like the other guy said, the mistake we made was not simply letting South American cunts fall to communism, whereupon they'd learn their lesson about how shitty it is. Cuban diaspora are some of the most extreme McCarthyites ever.

Right in LatAm = centrist in USA = center-right in Europe/japan/sk = radical left in China

>>71039052
t. Santiago Perez Mengele

>>71036387
We were nationalistic and that was really good until the Americans backstabbed Getúlio, Perón and many others. Then we starved under right wing dictatorships sponsored by the US for a few decades until everything was falling apart. So the leftists came and made good things but they also made great mistakes.

>>71038354
Argentina and Uruguay pretty shit considering how white they are and it's because of Socialism.

Chile vastly overachieves its racial demographics. It's only about half-white but still manages to be at the same general level as Argentina.

>>71039098
Because they were the oligarchs who lost all of their privileges with Revolution. The average Cuban in Cuba supports socialism, with minor chsnges.

>>71036387

Maybe because falling for oligarchic regimes up to 1945 plus having Murica-backed dictators/oligarchic regimes after 1945 didn't work out too well for them

>>71039208
I bet you honestly believe this and aren't even baiting

>>71039208
all of our governments from 1990 to 2010 were left wingers mate, and that's where most of our growth comes from

>>71039273

>1950 statistics

>>71039371
See
>>71037682

Left wing compared to Pinochet maybe, but Chile still has the most free economy in Latin America.

>>71039371
But they werent communist left wingers

>>71038741
Yeah you have to understand that ever since colonial times, Latin American cunts were mostly just a source of raw materials for the US and Europe. This neocolonial relationship continued well past independence.

>British interventions in the Cisplatine
>the War of the Pacific was said to have been egged on by European companies who wanted business extracting nitrates from the Atacama Desert
>repeated US interventions in the Caribbean
>the Chaco War was apparently also egged on by foreign companies hoping to drill for oil in the Gran Chaco

Thus, Marxist propaganda told Pedro that if only you killed/expelled all the gringo oil/fruit companies and the people took over the nation's wealth, then all poverty and inequality would disappear. A lot of them apparently bought into it and still do, for all the world that it was just a ruse for Russia or whatever to milk Latin America's resources for themselves. Great power politics are just that.

>>71039208
It was fascism and fascit populist which ruined Arg/Uru. Fascist dictatorships and anticommunist neofalangist movements like Peronism.

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>>71039276
>Because they were the oligarchs who lost all of their privileges with Revolution. The average Cuban in Cuba supports socialism

>>71039555
he did say
>in Cuba
you floridian yatusae

>>71039462
I think his point is that thanks to socialism south american countries went to the shitter

>>71039462
You are quite dense, no?

>>71039584
North Korea syndrome.

>>71039584
The only people who haven't fled Cuba by this point are the ultra dregs of society. Everyone with an education or any ambition in life left decades ago.

>>71038973
Cuba was an effective Soviet attack dog in the Third World for 30 years, because they were more marketable than Moscow itself.

Remember that Putin offered flowery condolences at Castro's passing? He remembers...

>>71039616

And using statistics of 5 yrs after WWII when Europe was still rebuilding and most of Asian/African countries didn't exist or were devastated by the war, clearly proves that.

>>71040082
Half of these countries havent suffered any war before, and Venezuela is the perfect example to show that socialism ruined the economy, the only country in that top 5 where liberalism was rejected.

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>>71040471
Correct. Unlike back in the Cold War days, we didn't sic the CIA on Hugo Chavez. We let him play himself out and now you can see what a goddamn disaster that he caused.

>>71040831
Probably should have done same in the 70s, although obviously in those days, the pressure to remove commie from premises was greater.

>>71040831
>we didn't sic the CIA on Hugo Chavez.

dude. how can you be this fucking retard?

>>71036387
Probably because of the Montoe dictrine and imposed Us dictatorships.

>>71039273
What is this, GDP per capita?

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>>71041156
Yeah...they fed him polonium sushi like that guy in Russia and that's why he died of cancer. I'm sure.

>>71041269
It was Maduro the whole time, a little bird told him to do so.

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>>71039545
>anticommunist neofalangist movements like Peronism.

>>71041031
>>71040831
This is true. You have to actually experience gommunism to know why gommunism is fucking retarded idea.

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>Perú
>left

>>71041358
Peronism was just populist socialism of a different flavor. Still hot garbage that's fucked Argentina for 60+ years.

>>71041425
how the fuck is Peronism "anticommunits and neofalangist"?

you niggers have to stop talking about shit you don't know anything about.

>>71041361
Thank you, Butthurt Belt. Can always count on you to bring the McCarthyism.

>>71039205
amerijews really attempted to destroy nationalist movements in the region. if you take notice of some far right leaders, the first of them were adamant on building strong countries. they got deposed by those trained in the school of the americas as mere tools of corruption, torture and such

those that did good jobs got replaced quick

>>71041692
For those who don't know, this troll is a nigger whose father had been a minor official under Noriega that lost his job when he got overthrown, so he's forever anally blasted at the US.

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>>71041851
does not remove the fact that he's right and you're a sensitive piece of shit
now go cry over this pic at /pol/, faggot

>>71042074
>>71041692
Nice samefag proxy.

>>71036433
Mexico was commie as fuck until the 90s.

>>71041493
>>71041425
>Peronism can be described as a third position ideology, as it rejects both capitalism and communism. Peronism espouses corporatism and thus aims to mediate tensions between the classes of society, with the state responsible for negotiating compromise in conflicts between managers and workers.

>From the perspective of opponents, Peronism is an authoritarian ideology. Perón was often compared to fascist dictators, accused of demagoguery, and his policies derided as populist. Proclaiming himself the embodiment of nationality, Perón's government often silenced dissent by accusing opponents of being unpatriotic. The corporatist character of Peronism drew attacks from socialists...

hmmm...

Don't know ask Trump voters, socialists here say the same bullshit that trumpets say in america...

>>71042687
It was, and Mexico didn't always see eye-to-eye with the US on some issues such as relations with Cuba, also various leftist intellectuals such as Arthur Miller went into exile there during the era of McCarthyism.

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>>71039273
Mexico went to shit after neoliberalism, so yes, thanks socialism.

>>71042687
>until the 90s.
80s

>>71042814
>also various leftist intellectuals such as Arthur Miller went into exile there during the era of McCarthyism
That always got me laughing. Didn't it ever occur to lefty Bohemian intellectuals that if they lived in the USSR or Cuba, they'd be put in work camps?

>>71038973
which is going to be the first leftist president since mi general Lazaro Cardenas

>>71037682
It's not funny when even colombians know our education is shit

>>71039511
>Latin American cunts were mostly just a source of raw materials for the US
Caracas alone was a bigger market than Boston and New York combined in the 1830's.You are talking out of your ass.The US was mostly a backwards agrarian society until the 1840's

>>71042842
So, South Korea is socialist?
Go blame your problems on someone else Juan

>>71042306
oops you discovered me, let me change proxies

>>71043654
Americans made South Korea because it was (and is) convenient, Americans made us their slave labour via neoliberalism. Go suck American dick somewhere else, Juan.

>>71044020
NAFTA was a disaster for all countries involved senpai.

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Cuba should've nuked Am*rica in 1962.

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But we are so succesfull.

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>>71044108
It benefited the capitalists who designed it. NAFTA did exactly what it was always meant to do.

>>71036387
Argentina and Brazil are blue now.

>>71044462
>>71044222
Get rid of that proxy Ivan.

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>>71036387

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>>71044516
I'm no Ivan.

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>>71044511
For now.

>>71044664
Who is going to win in your election next year?

Pls not the socialists again.

PLS NO.

>>71044706

Far Right will win here for sure.

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>>71044739
>Far Right
>Brazil

>>71044706
Dunno.

>>71044791

Yes, problem? Just because britain doesn't have means that we don't have either.

>>71036387
Capitalism dicks them hard

And despite the memes, socialistic policies have done great work in Bolivia and Cuba.

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>>71044802
>>71044838
This is the next President of Brazil.

>>71044893
Nope.

>>71044857
>Cuba
sure
>Bolivia
WOT
I mean Bolivia is better than it was but there isn't one country on earth you couldn't say that about.

Evo Morales is a cunt.
He had a referendum on whether he could run for a third term, Bolivian voters said no (even though Evo rigged it, kek) and now he's hiring all these lawyers to find a way to BS himself into running again.

>>71043133
...No, they wouldn't be.

Socialist regimes are generally run by intellectuals. Lack of practical experience is a big part of why socialist economic reforms can easily go wrong.

>>71044893

t.brazilian immigrant

She's literally who tier and you know that.

>>71039208
>Argentina and Uruguay pretty shit considering how white they are
stopped reading there.
argentina is amerindian.

>>71044953
>>71045015
Gommies are winning the polls in the first round.
She's 2nd.

In the runoff, she beats the gommies.

Therefore she's your new president.

All hail Marina.

>>71044975
>Socialist regimes are generally run by intellectuals

Dude...every communist state ever purged all their intellectuals and sent them to gulags/reeducation.

>>71045054

>Gommies are winning the polls in the first round.
>lmao Hillary had 90% chance of winning
>lmao Aécio had 70% chances of winning
>believing polls
>2017

Yeah nigger go back to cleaning toilets.

>>71045162
Asshole.
We will have a social democrat president and the black man will rule Brazil as he always was destined to.

>>71044706
what do you care

>>71045313
careful, he just wants to steal more islands, do not tell him shit

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>>71045425
Don't worry, Perú will send help.

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Liberal capitalism is represented by the amerindian tribes that populate the argentinian republic. marxist forces are represented by the heirarch and pro voters, pro radicals, and extrations from the revolutionary or non-revolutionary peronist left. thy day in which the amerindian population replaces, in majority, the european socialism in the urns, the nation will be saved. amerindians from all over the world, come, form parties, annihilate this plague.

>>71036387
Latinos are dumb as a brick

>>71044511
Brazil has no right. There is no conservatorism, there is no minimal state policies, there is zero nationalism.
All the "right" wingers are different kinds of socialists.

>>71045094
"""""Their""""" intellectuals

>>71046348
still capitalist

>>71037285
>shit should be italy tier but """"socialists"""" ruined it

how exactly? exporting rocks?

>>71036871
Multiple Alliance to reduce Colombia to ashes when?

It worked well with Paraguay, y'know

>>71045094
Only happened in Cambodia

>>71036871
we will send them to the work camps

>>71039208
Amazing post

Catholocism

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>>71037264
>Socialism in Dominican Republic has the country growing at a 6% rate every year
Except that we are more centrist than anything.

>>71037340
You are full of shit.

>>71036940
we smell like shit

>>71050354
>only Cambodia purged their intellectuals
This is troll, right?

>poor as fuck
>government is shit
>some guy comes up to you and tells you it's because of the corrupt elite that deliberately are trying to perpetuate a class dichotomy
>tells you that you can fix it by supporting a socialist government
what the fuck do you think you're going to do?

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>>71036387
this is now a laugh-at-brazil thread

>>71039716
so you confirm what >>71036940 says, what wrong with it

>>71052152
BRAVO R. Dominicana!

>>71052662
Vote for them and become even poorer and shittier. :^) (^:

>>71037264
wow dude, I want to believe you're just joking. no one can be this delusional

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>>71036387
Chile didn't. That's why it's the only nice South American Country.

>>71036387
They experience first hand how bad right wing capitalism is.

>>71054777
Capitalism is the entire reason we can be having this conversation on 4chan and not dead/in a gulag/freezing/starving.

>>71054820
Why do idiots always assume the opposite of exploitative capitalism is Stalinism?

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>>71048651
Barely. The state controls a lot of the market.
Still a common sight street vendors being shutdown violently (some times they end up dying such happened a few weeks ago). Literally bullied by the state.

>>71036387
cancerous castro. his influence is still felt

The country was fine with our death squads killing commmies and gang bangers keeping them all at bay but no stupid fucking jews at the eu came in and fucked everything up. They took all the power away from the military. End result is I am American and the "motherland" is in flames so it turned out great for me.

>>71054820
>muh Stalinism

>>71054908
Why the idiots always assume the opposite of expoitative capitalism is socialism?

>>71052392
Intellectuals ran the show everywhere else