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Trapped In South Africa

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Hello all

So i have come to 4chan in need of help, not sure if this is the right place to post but i am literally at my wits end and dont know what else to do.

I am currently living and working in South Africa (South African citizen with a South African passport) and I am trying to get out of this country.

First prize would be Europe but Canada, Australia and New Zealand would be completely fine too.

In order to get into Europe I need a job offer and then the company needs to sponsor me with a "work permit" which I can only get if they can prove that no one else in the country can do the job, the same applies for the other mentioned countries above as far as I know.

I am a relatively skilled network engineer with quite a few years experience but I just seem to keep hitting brick walls and dead ends. I have spoken to recruitment agencies, have been applying for jobs for over 6 months and spoken to multiple immigration agencies and lawyers but nothing seems to change.

Please if anyone can help or give advice or even point me in the right direction I would be so grateful.

Please help I am fucking trapped :(
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Get a real education. We don't want more free loaders.
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>>70977176
Try to get into Russia
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>>70977176
F U L L
U
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release walus and you can come here with him
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I am in no way a feeloader
And dont want help from the state
I have my own money
Also how is working in IT not a real education
I just want to get out of this fucking country
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>>70977176
>trapped
What an over dramatic retard you are.
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>>70977176
you can always kys if you can't find a way out. i know that's what i'm going to do.
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If you give me a vuvuzela I'll marry you for citizenship.
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>>70977240
Im not well versed in 4chan language
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>>70977262
that's rich coming from someone from canada.
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>>70977266
trying to avoid that option
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>>70977280

>4chan language

Watch your mouth, son.
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>>70977286
Explain. I'm not the shitposter who post the angry pepe every other night.
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>>70977240
>canada
>full
go to canada, they aren't full.

btw... come to argentina, you can get a job of your profession really easy.
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>>70977250

You have no education. You're not welcome.

You might get jobs in South Africa for just being white but that shit doesn't fly over here.

You need IT degrees and even then, there's 10 Russians trying to come here too with better experience.
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>>70977262
yea I agree with No.70977286
you have it fucking great there so dont spew your bs unless you can actually help
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>>70977312
in order to get into canada I need to have a job offer wihch I cannot seem to get and I dont meet the "points" requirements
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how old are you?
you say you're south african citizen, do you hold another citizenship?
are you a grill?
are your family rich, so they can support you for a period of 2 years?
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>>70977176
>Canada, Australia and New Zealand would be completely fine too
What about America!?!? D:<
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>>70977176
DUDE; fly to europe, tell authority that you are refugee, you have passport, education degree etc..
how could it go wrong?
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Off topic question: do white south Africans get circumcised? Or just the black ones?
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Why do you want to flee from South Africa?
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I am a Californian, and I have noticed SAFFAS are the worlds yacht crews and every marina in California seems to have lots of them hanging around. Maybe try to land a crew job.

Also, Perth is overrun with South Africans. You would like it there.
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>>70977354
try learning french if you want to go to canada, also are you well off? they also require you to have relatively good capital in order to enter the country.

I tried the point system too, i am eligible for the skilled worker visa (forgot what it's called), but i think i need to learn french in order to be sure, how old are you btw?
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>>70977363
>living in chump's united slaves of amerikkka
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>>70977354
why cant you stand south africa anymore?
if you have been threatened or you are in danger, you can seek for political asylum or so
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>>70977354

You don't meet the points because you're not educated. You've been coasting along on white privilege in South Africa. Out here in the 1st world you need real degrees.
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>>70977440
What the fuck are you going on about, man?
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Oh boy this thread is going to be fun.
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>>70977363 America is rlly hard to get a visa.
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>>70977363
america is too difficult and too competitive to get into senpai
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>be shitty dumb boer
>go to nigfrica and think you can etch a living there
>plan backfires when oppressing niggers wasn't cool anymore
>"i just want to leave this shithole my ancestors built"

your ancestors chose the wrong continent amigo. you should be punished for their stupidity.
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>be south african
>can't go anywhere except for absoulte shitholes and Argentina

the way I see it, there's only one option m8
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Really makes u think
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>>70977481
why is Argentina so Visa-free? is there any country who need a fucking visa to get in?
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>>70977487 link?
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>>70977504
we do
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>>70977313
I do have an education, not a degree or diploma but tons of IT certs, and I have 6 years experience.
I get a job offer at least 3 times a week in SA
I am constantly head hunted
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>>70977504
You guys love whoring yourselves out to former white supremacist regimes.
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>>70977447

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/apply-factors.asp

This faggot doesn't have education. Any idiot with an IT degree can qualify to immigrate to Canada or Australia.
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>>70977487
>Malaysians have more babies than fucking Africans
Holy shit stop breeding like rabbits.
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>>70977356
Im male
29
I have money, i can support myself for 2 years
please enlighten me
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>>70977524
ifitweremyhome.com
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>>70977363
Also I dont really want to go to America
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>>70977487
>make more money
>have higher infant mortality
>have lower lifespan
>have more crime
>have more STDs

hmmm really made me think
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>>70977554
Go to Spain or germany as illegal, if they ask, you are a refugee.
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>>70977504
>why is Argentina so Visa-free?
it isn't really.
it's only with decent country and the rest of latin america because we're forever obligated to be nice with them for regional reasons.
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>>70977410

Does that really need an answer?
South Africa's going down the shitter and fast man. It used to have a growing economy and now the black government's blaming muh white's for economic stagnation and every year it's slowing down and the country's getting more dangerous for their population. I think the average White man still makes 3 times as much but who the fuck cares if your families are in danger,

https://businesstech.co.za/news/business/129980/shocking-difference-in-pay-between-black-and-white-professionals-in-sa/

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-22554709

https://businesstech.co.za/news/general/121702/heres-what-an-expert-says-is-causing-white-south-africans-to-leave-the-country/

Maybe the guy's white, I don't fucking know. If he is, there's good reason to.
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>>70977374
it doesnt work like that
i can get a shengen visa valid for 3 months but thats about it
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>>70977577
I inferred that from your omission of it pham. I'm trying to ask why you don't want to come here
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fly in and drop anchor with marriage or a kid
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>>70977426
im 29
i dont have a degree or diploma but I am educated and skilled in IT
most of canada is english depending on where you go
Im not well off but have a bit of money to my name
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>>70977554
>29
good age, canada usually wants young workers at their prime
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>>70977595 thanks to god!
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>>70977475
youre a fucking retard
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>>70977629
>canada wants
fuck off we don't want anymore third world scum.
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>>70977531

Not a degree, Your certs mean shit. It's not 1999 anymore boet.

If you have well paying jobs in a beautiful country with beautiful women why the fuck would you leave?

Just go on holiday to Ireland and Malaysia then you will appreciate what you have more.
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>>70977481
kms?
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>>70977580
Though
>6500 gdp/capita ppp
>CIA factbook source says 11,200
they need to update this site desu
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>>70977650
you sound triggered pieter.

don't you have some niggers to get raped by?
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>>70977624
then you pretty much have everything you need, except for a job offer. keep looking, ask the embassy for options, check their website on guides on how to get a job, ask someone who already works there. good luck.
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>>70977643
aprendé ingles
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>>70977580
source?
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>>70977694
http://www.ifitweremyhome.com/
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>>70977689
No he needs an equivalent degree or a ton of capital.
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>>70977669
why don't you just go to Ireland, it says that it's visa free for saffers
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>>70977702
oh right, good point.
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>>70977176
>First prize would be Europe but Canada, Australia and New Zealand would be completely fine too.
If we're second prize to you then fuck off we're full
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>>70977176
Why don't you move to Botswana or Namibia?
Are you white?
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>>70977597
I am white, but i am not racist, its not about blacks and whites
I want a better future for my one day family and will never have children in SA because I dont want them to be at a disadvantage in life,
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I hope some mugabe esque strong man takes hold of your assets and throws your ass in jail, you arrogant fucking saffa
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>>70977711

Would Argentina be easier for this guy to get in? It's not better than a first world country but it's world country and it's much better than any shithole he can get in Africa. Maybe try MENAlol.

Espanol no es dificil a aprendo
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>>70977629
Then help me bro
I will fucking clean toilets, I dont care
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>>70977765
Get a fucking degree, or contact some family members and seek sponsorship.
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>>70977758
>Would Argentina be easier for this guy to get in?

yes, virtually anyone can come here and they get insta residency permit.
but he doesn't want to according to how he ignored a different argie early in this thread.
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>>70977702
whats a ton of capital?
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>>70977754
I honestly don't get why people, especially the Finn, are being so hostile to this guy. He literally did nothing wrong and isn't acting entitled to other countries.
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>>70977711
to travel, not to work :(
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>>70977793
assets
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>>70977815
just go there, in 3 months you'd probably find a job, don't be retarded m8.
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>>70977796
hes a white south african, he deserves no country's shelter
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>>70977752

The grass is not greener in other countries. Go to Ireland or Eastern or Southern Europe or wherever you might want a woman from then marry a girl for a residence permit.

It's literally the only option you have.

I hope you're not ugly, Kek.
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>>70977435
I live just outside the CBD in cape town and in the last 2 years I have been robbed and attacked about 6 times.
Had to phsically defend myself
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fuck off

Canada is full.
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>>70977793
>a million dollars CND

you're fucked, now enjoy the third world saffa cunt.
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>>70977176
people coming from literal warzones have a hard time migrating to those countries, fuck off, you cry baby
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>>70977793
In the early 2000s it was something like $100,000 CAN for a five-ten year visa.
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>>70977851
>stop being a pussy

there's your solution you ooga booga.
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>>70977791

What a fucking ignorant way of looking at the world. It's 4chan of course and of course he shouldn't do what we tell him to but South America's not the shithole that the memes here say it is. Buenos Aires, Bogota, Medillin, Rio and Sao Paolo are all global cities that have beautiful parts I'm sure.
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>>70977851

You deserve it for gentrification
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>>70977796
Fucking thank you
I just want a better life, thats all
I dont want handouts and to freeload
I am willing to work hard and do whatever it takes
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>>70977839
why?
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>>70977941
please ignore them, they're children and they have nothing better to do. try considering argentina too, look >>70977791.
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>>70977941
Because you wuz apartheid an sheeeeiiiiit the same way I wuz massa an sheeeiiiit. I don't get it either
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>>70977929
just get a visiting visa for 3 months for any country you want and go there, if you can't find a job in 3 months then you don't deserve to migrate and shouldn't anyways.

there, solved.
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>>70977796
>people from poor shitholes want to invade rich, better countries

nah we don't need more freeloading scum. he should fix his shithole or stay in his hovel than come here.
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>>70977971
youre not allowed to look for jobs while on a holiday visa
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do you mind working outside?
get a carpenter certificate and have some experience while saving money (about 50k$)
then go to canada, they need this field worker,
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>>70977988
I dont want to freeload
I dont want handouts
I have money, apparently not enough though
I just cant get out
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>>70977996
wtf seriously?
I don't need a visa to go to europe, but I'm guessing it's the exact same policy for visa free people, right?
how the actual fuck do people even migrate then?
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>>70977971

If he can't find a European woman to marry for residence then it's his own fault. Cape Town is flooded with European tourists.
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>>70978017
FUCKING EXACTLY
you either have to be super fucking skilled and educated or have a shit ton of money
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>>70978012
i feel you on the being trapped part
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>>70977176
Fly to the country you like. Tear up any information which could identify you. Burn your fingerprints off and keep a low profile. Problem solved.
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>>70978037

Or have a wife/husband from the country you want to move to.
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>>70978022
Im already engaged
so thats not really an option
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Sorry bro, we only need uneducated and illegal niggers (violent is a plus too)

If youre white, skilled and might actually contribute to the social security system Mama Merkel will send you home by herself
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>>70978073

Then you're fucked. If you were serious about leaving you would dump that bitch and start a new life somewhere else.

Life is short. You might regret not leaving her and trying your luck somewhere new.
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>>70977176
Go there as a tourist and stay.

What do you have to lose?
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you know what lads, after this conversation we had, I'm glad I'm not mexican.
apparently being illegal is the only way to migrate if you're not rich or have a fucking PhD.
god fucking bless my glorious country for not being an absolute shithole.
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>>70978073
don't get married yet then, also is your fiancée skilled too? you may be able to get out but getting her out may be a totally different challenge.
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>>70978135
both are still unironic shitholes
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>>70978175
shes busy with a degree in marketing and HR
1 year to go
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You need a seriously good degree. Like, any government official looking at it must say "whoa, this guy will find a job within 1 week and not try to leech from us in 100 years".

Also must know the language.

Pass security check.

Have a rent contract and work contract.

And some other shit.

Also if you earn less than 2000 during one month you might get deported anyways.

Good luck
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>>70977752
>will never have children in SA
That attitude is the reason why niggers take over
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>>70978273
this. absolutely this, sorry op, but this is the reality.
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Why not move to China like this guy from South Africa did?

https://youtu.be/7NAe6Qoy6u8
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http://www.migration.gv.at/en/types-of-immigration/permanent-immigration/skilled-workers-in-shortage-occupations/shortage-occupations-list-2017.html

Are you one of those?
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>>70978363
doesn't austria require like 10 years just for residency? that, learning the language, and culturally assimilating oneself if required too, ja?
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>>70977531
>I do have an education
>not a degree or diploma
lmao
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Johannesburg was worse than Rio and Manila, in all honesty.
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>>70977858
>Canada
>Full
Here's some proof that canada has plenty of space left
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>>70978204
alright m8
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>>70978681
You may be all good, but your economy is still Russia-tier.
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>>70978131
Residency
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>>70978716
I don't mind that, we aren't even industrialized, so imagine the potential.
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Unfortunately if you're not willing to marry a foreigner your options are fairly limited.
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It is absolutely about black and white. Why don't you try Rio, Sao Paolo, Buenos Aires or even the "downgrades" like Canada and Australia then?

You can have a better life if you try anywhere else anon outside SA. Do you think that black hordes are going to try to take over Buenos Aires' Parliament soon?

>>70977752
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>>70978760
You should also mind this. South Africa is more democratic than Argentina.
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>>70978837
wtf are you even talking about
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>>70978845
Forgot the image
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>>70978853
how's that important if there's not that much difference and it isn't a problem in either country?

it's like saying that a country is better than other because there's 0.5% people infected with HIV in one and 0.7% in another.
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>>70977554
>I have money, i can support myself for 2 years
No you can't.

Ive known a few saffas that have moved here and they've all said that due to the currency differences they've wiped out all their life savings just getting here and can't afford to buy a house or car or anything.

If you're not super rich in rsa you'll be poor as shit when you move here and have to start from scratch.
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>>70978931
That shows that OP, if he moves to Argentina, won't get more freedom.
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>>70979024
I am willing to start from scratch if necessary
I did it in SA and I can do it there
Im not super rich but should have at least enough to support myself while looking for work etc
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>>70979103
whatever you say, Muhamed.
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>>70977690 En eso estoy pelotudo, tanto tenes que bardear?
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>>70978363
>>70979122
http://www.migration.gv.at/en/types-of-immigration/permanent-immigration-red-white-red-card.html

This might actually be an option. In the long run it can open up access to all other EU countries. (But Austria's a pretty good destination on the whole.) You'll absolutely need to learn German though.
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>>70980195
well i speak afrikaans so basically half way there
I will def take a look thanks so much
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>>70977176
>>70979122

Also, did you finish secondary education?

The NZ and AUS points for skilled immigration might be a bit easier, since they give strong preference to shortage occupations.
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>>70977591
Spain is hell for refugees.
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>>70977796

The Finn is some half colored South African mongrel who shitposts for a living.

Same guy used to roleplay a South African mining engineer living in Finland. He has deep psychological issues.
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>>70980386
I did the points calculator for NZ, they say you need a minimum of 100 points, i score 110 but they are only looking at people with 160 points and above
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bump bump bump
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>>70980606

http://www.migration.gv.at/en/types-of-immigration/permanent-immigration/skilled-workers-in-shortage-occupations/shortage-occupations-list-2017.html

You might be category 5 here. In Austria (and I think often in UK, NZ, AUS), engineer implies vocational training in that trade, not academic education.

Last option for Europe could be university (if you've got an eligible school leaving certificate).

mastersportal.eu/
bachelorsportal.eu

It grants you residency with time to find a job after, and in many countries (Austria, Germany, Finland, France) there's low or no tuition fees. Basically all countries have programmes of study in English, at least for Master's. Some countries, like Germany and Austria also subsidise a year of language courses if you do not yet know German, but those are oversubscribed due to migrants.

In the case of Austria (about I'm clearly most knowledgeable), there's also a few English Bachelor's programmes at these "Universities of the Applied Sciences", i.e. vocational colleges/unis. Further, they grant admission to a Master's (two years) on an individual basis and might conclude that your certs constitute the equivalent of a Bachelor's degree and admit you.

Search here: http://www.fachhochschulen.ac.at/en/all_study_courses/?session&lang=en
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>>70980955
Also, you could try the subreddit reddit.com/r/iwantout if you haven't already.
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>>70981093
Anglo Saffa's are fine
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>>70978654
>Living in northern Canada
There's a reason 99% of the population lives so close to the US! America, why haven't you just moved the border ten miles north and gain another 100 million people?
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if you really did want to get out why not move anywhere and just outstay your visa? you could get a job for cash in hand if you really try.

i did it in the US once.
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>>70981126
t. vickus van der merwe
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>>70977929

As a Canadian let me give you a typical Canuck "Sorry" for how the other Canadian dipshits have been treating you. I know how you feel, or at least I think I do. I have met two South African's here in Montreal and Ottawa. Both were either software developers or engineers. They did well for themselves and have great jobs here in Canada.

I wish you luck and hope you can come over.
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>>70977363
I'd choose Russia over America any day.
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http://www.wandertooth.com/zivnostensky-list-work-in-prague-not-eu/

Try czech freelance visa, its a little secret but its basicly bacdoor to EU

When you are here, find a normal job(no problem with the lowest unemployment in EU) and you can transfer your visa to permanent stay visa after 6 months

With this you can travel whole EU and find the job somewhere else
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>>70977176
>In order to get into Europe I need a job offer and then the company needs to sponsor me with a "work permit" which I can only get if they can prove that no one else in the country can do the job, the same applies for the other mentioned countries above as far as I know.
So what? It's easy process as long as you're skilled specialist
If you are not skilled enough - stay home
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>>70981044
I fall into the shortage catagory under Computer technician (Engineer), network technician (Engineer)
but I still need an offer of employment first


Please note:

You can only apply for a Red-White-Red Card as a Skilled Worker in a Shortage Profession if you already have an employer who needs you for a position as a skilled worker.
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>>70981126
can you explain to me what FULL means?
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>>70982234
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZnLdrAvb4w
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>>70981692
I am skilled,
There are tons of jobs for my skillset
but companies are not willing to fork out the money to pay for the tier 2 work permit
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>>70982287
Lol, i needed that
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>>70982210

I see. It does make things a lot easier though, because the employer does not need to prove that there weren't qualified EU citizens around.

You'll find something mate.

http://www.jobsinvienna.com/jobs/IT%20Technology
http://www.thelocal.at/jobs/
>>
Kom naar huis, broeder.
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>>70982287
Lol, i needed that
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>>70982346
is that an invite?
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>>70982346
You people don't give a shit about south africa.
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>>70982642
As long as you're white and speak Afrikaans, sure.

>>70982837
Well duhh, after Apartheid we didn't really have anything to do there.
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>>70982917
im definitely whit
intermediate afrikaans?? ek kan n bietjie praat en verstaan meerste van wat mense se
invite still stands?
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>>70982917
I would actually kill to come to the netherlands
>>
FUCK OFF WE'RE FULL
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>>70977176
Move to a majority-white community, purchase a gun and carry it. Vóila, you are now as safe as any eurocuck, strayan, kiwicunt or cancuck, with the added benefits of enjoying year-round magnificent weather, beautiful sights, Afrikaner cuties, greater personal liberty, and a continent of opportunity.

The nanny-state is not a blessing, but a curse.
>>
Were your grandparents Dutch citizens? You might be considered a latent Dutch and acquire Dutch citizenship through the option procedure.
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>>70983020
>>70983041
You don't have any Dutch family members?
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>>70977996
>youre not allowed to look for jobs while on a holiday visa

You're not allowed to work. You can look for a job alright. How do you think people who mysteriously landed a job on the same country they've been on holidays to, managed to get the job?
You'll be refused if you say so, because the prime reason for your travel must be leisure, but it's possible, and it's legal to stay if you're offered a job with the proper visa sponsorship.

>>70983041
Do you have any European parents, grandparents or great-gramps?
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>>70983041
Were your grandparents born here in sa?
If yes then you're fucked.
At least I have an aussie citizenship.
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>>70979103
>Democracy equals freedom
American tier post, lad.
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>>70983209
http://www.the-netherlands.org/shared/products-and-services/products-and-services/dutch-nationality/option-procedures-latent-dutch/child-of-confirmed-latent-dutch-adults
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>>70983411
>aussie citizenship
I´d rather live in SA tbqhwy. What´s the appeal of a nanny-state?
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>>70983366
how do you know this?

what if my passport allows me to go places visa free?
does the same thing for looking for a job apply?
because everywhere I saw you needed to have a job already aligned before going.

I'm really curious, I don't really want to migrate, I love my country, but I'd love to stay like 2 years in a country to learn a language or something.
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>>70983429
>implying that Americans would make such a ridiculous claim
Liberty above all else. Hence the Constitution.
>br education
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>>70983436
>I´d rather live in SA tbqhwy. What´s the appeal of a nanny-state?

What's the appeal of a nigger-ridden shithole where you could be killed and your woman raped?
You snow niggers forgot how goed you have it.
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>>70983545
>What's the appeal of a nigger-ridden shithole
Move to a majority white area.
>where you could be killed and your woman raped?
Vertrou in God en die Mauser.
>You snow niggers forgot how goed you have it.
Social democracy strangles the human spirit.
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>>70983576
>Move to a majority white area.

If you read the thread you'd notice that OP's white. And whites here stick to their own. It doesn't help.
>>
Hey OP, answer the questions about your grandparents.
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>>70983627
> It doesn't help.
Then trust in your sidearm and God.
>>
Just move to South America. It's not great, but still miles ahead of the shithole you currently reside in.
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>>70983442
>everywhere I saw you needed to have a job already aligned before going.
To work in a foreign country, you need a job and a work visa or the right to work there.
To look for a job, you don't need a particular visa.

If you were to find a job, you'll have to wait until you get the correct visa to work. You can't do any paid trials either.

BUT it's not forbidden to work for free. There are many people WWOOFing in foreign countries during their holidays.

In short. You can look for a job, work for free for specific jobs, do free trials, can't do any formation, and must leave before your holiday visa ends if you didn't find anything.

>>70983442
As an Argentinian, you could do a Working holiday Visa if you have a University diploma, some money aside and are younger than 30. It's better. You can work for one year in Australia, Denmark, France, Germany, Ireland, New Zealand, Norway.
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>>70977176
STAY THE FUCK IN AFRICA

Your kind is not welcome here anymore
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>>70983436
nothing at all. Anyone that comes here does so when they're out of options
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>>70983251
would have been over long ago if i did
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>>70977176
Haven't read the thread. But I'm an Russian programmer with a degree (an Moscow university) in programming/math, I've got almost 3 years of commercial experience now, bearable English(I'm still learning). But I'm not sure if I will ever have a chance to move somewhere, it's pretty hard even with a relevant degree and Europe right around the corner.
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>>70983659
no eu grandparents
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>>70983846
>Aboland
>Poo peeland

lol no thanks
but the rest are good, and it's nice to know that you can just go and try your luck, you have to take a risk every now and again.
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>>70983996
Why so?
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>>70984102
Where they came from?
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You can come here :3
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>>70984187
south africa on both sides and all 4 have passed
my mother or father could apply and get their visas but it wouldnt help me because im over 18
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>>70984209
how?
>>
OP you said you live outside Cape Town, why not move to a gated community in Cape Town?
>>
Also OP post this thread on /pol/, there are lots of saffers there that escaped.
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>>70984284
I want to get out of south africa
I dont earn enough to afford a house, even as a skilled network engineer.
well i could afford one but then all i would be doing is working and sleeping because I wouldnt be able to afford anything else
In order to rent you must earn 3 x the monthly rental
fucking ridiculous
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>>70984316
>I dont earn enough to afford a house, even as a skilled network engineer.
I think you'll find that to be the case in most places though, unless you're willing to live in a typical american cardboard house in a rather rural area.
>>
Can't you just get a degree part time from some degree mill to add to you application?
>>
>>70984217
All four born there? shit.
>>
>>70977176
Haven't read the thread.
But I can tell you that Boers are very welcome in Germany. Boers are well respected and their name has a very good standing here, not even memeing. Boers are often respectfully called the only white tripe of Africa ("tribe" has a positive connotation in Germany, cf. Rousseau, May etc)
I know of two Boer families who moved to Germany.
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>>70984768
*personally know
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>>70977577

WTF I HATE AFRICA NOW
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>>70984262
Marry me :3
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>>70985999
this might end up being my only option
I do ?
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>>70977752
>its not about blacks and whites

I absolutely is, it is niggers who destroyed your country.

Anyway, I had an elderly Afrikaner friend, Walter, who worked here in Flanders, BE as engineer. It has been a while since I've seen him, I suppose he is probably retired now.

You are in IT, that is harder I think, I mean no real reason to go outsourcing network engineers here.
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>>70977796
Finns are dicks, and in general the people dissing this polite Afrikaner with a question are unexperienced kids being edgy, and as usual smelly dumb leaf scum that should be raked.

Sorry Afrikaner friend, I would help out if I could but I can't think of anything.
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>>70977851
And still not racist you say? I don't believe you. Be honest. The bulk of SA niggers are pure scum.
>>
>>70977882
>Buenos Aires, Bogota, Medillin, Rio and Sao Paolo are all global cities that have beautiful parts I'm sure.

lol yeah right, if you're a loaded jew maybe
>>
>>70987284
Thats the thing
blacks in other countries are not nearly as bad
its not about black
its the fucking xhosa and zulu culture that I dont agree with
>>
I cannot believe a skilled engineer can't find a single job in Europe stop trolling us dude
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>>70977796
It's a half somali mutt who has mental issues. He shitposts here for living or that's how it seems. He's the one who always does these threads with black people in finland or mulattoes and goes on crying that everyone can be finnish.
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>>70987388
Sorry, this is the south african one. I can't really differentiate them, both have really deep psychological issues and both have similar post patterns.


Remember kids, this is what happens when you let black people in your country.
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>>70987350
I wish I could help you m8. I don't know how the situation for SA work migration in Belgium is. I would suggest to keep looking, you'll find something if the cards are right.

I know here it usually takes 6 months minimum to 2 years legal maximum of interim work until the company gives you a fixed contract.

Ideally you should find a European girl to marry and move in. That's how many Russians and muslims do it.

De aanhouder wint. Don't give up yet..

There are no better (more white) places to live elsewhere in SA? My friend used to live in a gated community with guards, is it everywhere like that in SA for whites?
>>
>>70987367
It's IT m8, there is already enough of them. 10-15 years ago maybe, but now it is much harder.
>>
read this
>>70987386
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>>70987555
but you guys have a crippling amount of unemployment?
>>
>>70987367
yup
i have experience but no degree or diploma
>>
>>70977176
Hello OP. Yeah I know the feeling. It's funny how western Eurotrash will allow actual jihadists to immigrate to their country, but not us South Africans, even though they're the ones that did this to us in the first place.

That being said, there are some other countries that might accept you as a worker. Asian countries like Thailand come to mind, or perhaps somewhere in East Europe? It won't be rich or luxurious by any degree, but you won't have to fear for your life all the time.

Also, what religion or ethnicity are you OP? Do you know where your grandparents are from? Or your great grandparents?
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>Canada
>relatively educated white male looking for work and opportunities can't get in
>take """refugees""" from shithole countries that hate your guts and just become burdens on the economy

???
>>
>>70988398
This applies to all EU countries as well. Europeans are mentally ill
>>
>>70988143
>Hello OP. Yeah I know the feeling. It's funny how western Eurotrash will allow actual jihadists to immigrate to their country, but not us South Africans, even though they're the ones that did this to us in the first place.

Do you think we have any hand in what or politicians do? No matter who we vote for, they all allow muslim immigration. And if we vote far-right they just blocked it in a cordon sanitaire.

Hence why many people think it is some kind of conspiracy, a deal with the Arabs, islam in Europe for oil.
>>
>>70988398
it's called white guilt and it's very real.

There are quite a few South Africans I've met in the Toronto area most are rich and from Durban it seems but they have facebook groups and do braais and meetups. Maybe try and contact other SAs through groups like an get advice from them.
>>
If you're white and good in IT apply for jobs in EU via the internet and ask them to give you schengen working visa
>>
>>70988683
>>70988548
Yeah but god damn dude, it's becoming a little too much right now
Like fine help out with refugees but don't fuck your own population and legal migrants over
>>
Btw, Belgium requires the least amount of time for naturalization(only 3 years) if you manage to get into Flandern because of the language similarities.
>>
>>70988143

Im not religious
Grandparents are from south Africa
Great grandparents from England, Scotland and Latvia
>>
>>70987388
>>70987432

You're both wrong. It's a British guy pretending to be black. He uses a proxy.
>>
>>70989256

>Latvia
http://www.mfa.gov.lv/en/usa/consular-information/requesting-latvian-citizenship

>3. If requesting citizenship based on your ethnic origin you will be required to pass a language exam in Latvia. You are allowed to maintain dual citizenship with any other country!

>Documents that confirm the eligibility of acquiring citizenship based on ethnic origin:

>Document that confirms ancestor’s place of residence in territory of Latvia between 1881 and June 17, 1940; Documents proving relationship to the ancestor; Documents confirming ethnic background (passports, birth/marriage certificates etc.)

>Confirmation of Latvian language exam being passed.

Do you have some documents proving the relationship to Latvia? If yes it's up to you learning the language and passing the exam.
>>
you should hurry up to reach the boats in North Africa.
EU plans to return all refugees they catch to a refugee dump in tunesia.
>>
>>70977176
You are white?
You speak English?
So you are British Diaspora?

You can come to Britain on work visa, apply for citizenship after
>>
>>70977176
I think I can help you. Are you white?
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>>70989418

So Latvia has no diplomatic embassy in Africa apart from Egypt but there is a Latvian Honorary Consulate in Johannesburg.

http://www.dirco.gov.za/foreign/forrep/forl.htm#lat

You should contact them and inquire them of the acquisition of citizenship through ethnic origin.

Also ask them about acquiring documents from there. It seems to be possible in the US.

http://www.mfa.gov.lv/en/usa/consular-information/requesting-documents-from-latvia
>>
>>70989570
those arent the rules anymore
>>
>>70989618
yes
>>
>>70989704
>1881 and June 17, 1940

C'mon OP, do you know or suspect whether a relative was living within the Latvian territory within this time frame? This could be your best bet.

A Latvian citizenship gives you the right to work and live in all of the EU, including the Netherlands.
>>
>>70989735
Give me some fake mail or something.
>>
>>70989704
Did any of your grandparents have British citizenship?
>>
>>70989774
My great grandfather and yes I suspect so
Then I would just need to learn the language
>>
>>70989838
No. See.>>70989256
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>>70989903
Ok, contact the honorary consulate and ask them about your options but it says so on the US's embassies web site. Thus it should also apply to the other countrys, too. Include that in your request.

The thing is that Latvian is a linguistic dinosaur of a language. Baltic languages haven't changed a lot and they have retained a lot archaic features which make them very difficult to learn but you should have no problem finding language partners to practice because you are a South African with British origins and virtually no one is learning Latvian. They might be really enthusiastic about helping you.

You just need the either retrieve or order the documents and have enough knowledge to pass the exam.
>>
>>70990088
This might be your best shot, haha.
>>
>>70989909
Ok,if he had then he would be able to apply for British citizenship.
I do not think he can based off great-grandparents but it is worth checking.

Also at one point all the Empire dominions had the same citizenship so he could check if his grandparents fell under that, so if his grandad was born before 1965 it is worth looking into.
>>
>>70990088
You could also try to contact the ministry of foreign affairs directly.
>>
>>70990126
I say this as A LOT of saffers fled to Britain following the end of apartheid
>>
http://www.mfa.gov.lv/en/diplomatic-missions#ZA

>Particularly interested in: IT and communications

Maybe you are going to make a new friend, OP. haha.
>>
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OP keep us updated on your progress with Latvian and you exchange with the Latvian consulate, please. You can also ask how many people have already acquired Latvian citizenship through this process.
>>
>>70989833
Hey, I really want to help you, because I know how you feel.
>>
>>70990501
?
>>
>>70991163
?
>>
>>70977176
I'll sponsor you if you agree to me my personal fucktoy for a year
>>
>>70990501
Click on the marker. It says so under the address of the honorary consule.

Btw, old records are not digitized in general but a few decades ago the Mormons were literally running around all over Europe taking photos of church records lefty and right and uploading them.
(I don't know how much of this applies to Eastern Europe)

Everyone who is interested in genealogy is aware of this.

So, if you got a name and a birthday, and the find out the place of residence/birth you could try to contact the current registrar's office directly in order to get the documents if the route through the consulate doesn't work.

You could pull it off if you get all the documents and drill the language for 2-3 years. Good enough to pass the test.
>>
Try Latvia, OP. It's paradise compared to daily necklacings.

Or maybe try here?
>>
>>70991678
that depends are you a male or female?
>>
>>70992036

With a Latvian citizenship he becomes also a European citizen which grants him freedom of movement, freedom of work and freedom of residence in all EU member states. He could go to the Netherlands or Ireland, maybe Britain if they don't manage to scrapt it during the negotiations.
>>
>>70991484
You can marry me, if you want.

t. not a pedojew
>>
>>70992528
where are you from or living? Male or female?
>>
>>70992755
Grill of course, same sex marriages are not allowed here. Saint-petersburg
>>
>>70992528
Yobany pidor!11
>>
>tfw no south african bf to rescue from africa and feed you white cum every day
>>
>>70993461
>Saint-petersburg
>Johannesburg

DONT
>>
>>70989256
easy go to latvian embassy with atleast knowing ur great grandparents last names (Or better having passports) and u can obtai ndouble citenzship lfmao
>>
>>70977176
why don't you try Chile ? it's pretty civilized and the weather is pretty much the same as cape town

if you are average looking and white you may land a girlfriend in a few months
>>
>>70992280
But if he lives here long enough, he'll be granted Dutch citizenship.

If you're still here, OP:

https://ind.nl/en/dutch-citizenship/Pages/Becoming-a-Dutch-citizen-abroad.aspx
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>>70977176
>I am a relatively skilled network engineer
You could get into the US with those skills

also
>immigrating to europe
>>
>>70977577
What are you, a terrorist or a communist?
>>
>>70977669
Go to tunisia. Your skills would be sought after there i think
>>
>>70978835
>>70987094
>let me tell you about his country
>>
>>70993461
lets keep in touch
>>
>>70994199
yeah theres a fuck ton of cisco jobs in the US
>>
try australia.
>>
>>70977481
>absolute shitholes
Rude we're in there
>>
>>70977176

Come to Greece, we're trying to unblack this place.
>>
>>70977481
>mfw my shitemalan passport is better than south afripoo's
>>
>>70994670
Let's do it.
>>
>>70995124
>Mexico
WEW
They treat Guatemala how the US treats them.
Top kek.
>>
Why not Poland we take everyone
>>
>>70995160
how do I contact you?
>>
>>70979694
It's okay your accent is adorable
>>
>>70995337
I can ask you the same.
>>
>>70995124

el peruANO azul
>>
>>70995172
I know, i hate all my neighbors
>>
i cant help you OP, but at least I can bump your thread
>>
Come to Britain
>>
>>70995337
>>70995399

Seriously, 4 chan is not the basis for a stable relationship you nutjobs
>>
>>70996986
its not about a stable relationship its about getting me out of this place
>>
>>70996986
At least we are both weirdos and honest about it.
>>
>>70997151
man, you sound really desperate
>>
>>70997151
Why are you so desperate to leave?
Move to an all white area or something, loads of brits retire to south africa
>>
>>70977752
>I am white, but i am not racist, its not about blacks and whites
get out
>>
die
>>
>>70997189
DUDE im fucking TRAPPED.. who knows maybe we'll fall in love
LOL
>>
>>70977752
>not about blacks and whites

hmmm yes, i wonder what it is that makes South Africa shit, certainly not the blacks......oh no, never them, they add to it with their amazing cultural contributions such as tire fires and muggings
>>
>>70997670
Lmao
>>
>>70981142
We should srsly just extend our border along along the 49th parallel all the way across. Leafs can hardly call themselves "true north wild and free" when parts of the US are north of Canada. They can keep BC, Winnipeg, etc and we'll take the great lakes, Toronto, montreal, etc.
>>
>>70977176
Noa?
>>
>>70977176
Do a Master's degree or something in a European country. Shouldn't be too hard after that.
>>
>>70987094
>a Belgian arrives in a thread about Africa
NO
HANDS
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>>70977176
are you afraid from blacks ?
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