What was life like under gommunism?

how the fuck should i know

if i was born in a time for me to experience communism and still posted here i would kms

My mother's family moved here from Azerbaijan. they said it was alright.

>>70975379
*You have no freedom or right to control your own destiny. The state tells you where you can live and what jobs you can have.
*Consumer goods are poor quality and in short supply--it can take months to purchase a bicycle, TV set, or coffee table.
*Jobs are mostly assigned based on your status as a member of the proletarian class such as "worker" or "peasant", or because you have connections to some party bigshot, and you could be denied a job if a member of your family did something politically unacceptable.
*If you complain about anything, you go to jail or a labor camp.
*Religion is either banned or strictly controlled by the state.
*You need permission to travel outside the country.
*Food is poor quality and limited in supply--markets often only have a few items on sale. People literally get sick and experience malnutrition from the shitty diet.
*There are no free elections and government officials do not have to answer to the public.
*All media, art, and entertainment must conform to the state agenda--this includes glorifying the party or the leader and schlocky propaganda art of muscled factory workers while demonizing whatever ideologies/people/countries the party wants demonized.
*The print and electronic media only report whatever news the state wants you to hear while not mentioning what they don't want you to know.
*There is no independent judiciary and you do not have a right to a fair trial or legal representation.
*Hotels and apartments are bugged, so be careful what you say.
*Some cities are "closed" meaning you cannot visit them without official permission.

>>70975379
You had two types of cheese, two types of car, two types of fill_in_the_blank, one type of architecture (socrealism in the 50s and then the much worse plattenbau modernism). Exteriors of buildings became dilapidated because the state owned them. Commie block apartments were tiny.

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>>70975840
>>70975809
>People who never expierienced communism
>Talking about communism
/int/ never lets me down.

>>70975871
hes kinda right tb h >>70975840

>>70975871
I grew up in Communist Poland.
My bad, there were three types of car: Little Fiat, Big Fiat and Polonez.

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>>70975914
>You could get any of them unless you sucked alot of dick or rubbed alot of backs.

Communism was shit in short and it left behind this hideous piece of shit in the middle of our capital

>>70975914
>>70975993
at least you niggers had fiats

her you had to wait 10 years for a fucking Moskvich

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>>70975993
I actually like it though. I hate plattenbau buildings. They became more hideous with time. I lived in something like pic related for a while, an 80s plattenbau. At the time (I was a child) I thought they were cool because they looked like military bunkers.

>>70976055
prefabricated concrete slab block cheap housing.

Basicly the scourge of every post socialist state, they look like shit and are poorly made. But still a better and more decent version of what was built in Russia and Ukraine.

Overall they dont look half bad if they're renovated and plastered with styrofoam and painted in some reasonable colour.

But i dont blame the architects etc back then, resources were scarce, and there was a housing problem right after the war and during the 60's because of the baby boom.

Cheap housing was badly needed. Too bad it was all built inside of towns instead of on the outskirts

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>>70976029
I wish we had a Big Fiat. We had the Little one.

>>70976171
>Overall they dont look half bad if they're renovated and *plastered with styrofoam*
Do you have an example pic? I can imagine them looking less like bunkers.

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>>70976177
still better than this

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>>70976225
maybe something like this? I can imagine some other EE cunts have renovated commieblocks as well

>>70975379
I sucked. Hard.
I could tell you more but Im in the toilet now, going back to sleep in a minute.
Reply to this post if you want stories, I'm waking up in 1.5 hours.
40yo from Łódź here.

>>70976302
>I sucked. Hard.
In the toilet?
But yes I am very interested. Most of the things I've learned about commmunism have been intensely politicized

>>70976294
>>70976300
Yeah that looks much better imo.

>>70976302
are you sleeping on the toilet?
i used to do this on breaks at work

>>70975379
I don't know, you tell me?

>>70976344
>Most of the things I've learned about commmunism have been intensely politicized
If you can find a copy with subtitles, I recommend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5rmCstM_x8
It's a satirical portrayal of commie block suburbia. It managed to get past the commie censors in 1981.

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>>70976564
And there's no escape from the eternal commieblock.

>>70976683
There's two about 4 km from my house.

>>70976697
To what degree are you able to choose where you live and work?

>>70976798
Freely, you can live anywhere, as long as you have money.

That's not real Vietnamese anyway, it's English teacher.

>>70976875
Need vocaroo?

>>70976897
Or pics i can give you. No face tho.

>>70976921
post window view pls

Also there is not any real Jap here other than Hiro. Any Japanese flag you happen to see on /int/ is English teacher/weeb with Jap proxy.

No idea, we didnt achieve communism

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>>70976930
>Window
I don't have it.

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>>70976997
Back "yard" pic.

>>70976961
I'm not saying there's no real Japs here, but I very much do believe most of the Japanese flags are fakers, especially the obvious, tryhard posts like "Quit taking our women, rite piggu."

>>70976177
Little Fiat is cute! CUTE!!!

>>70975871
People in USSR had opportunity to choose job.

The rest is true.

>>70977021
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1KTtX7qT2gO

>>70976997
where is that taken from, some sort of a stall?

>>70976230
nah, 2140 is better

>mfw my grandfathers were prosecutor and colonel
>they had 7 cozy 2-3 room apartments in moscow brick commieblocks
>now each costs 300-400k$

>>70977104
Store? Yes, it's my mother's phở store.

>>70976875
Also, reminder that there's near 50 millions Vietnamese on Internet. The only reasons why there aren't many of us here are normie culture and language barrier.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_Internet_users

>>70975379
great. i dodged that bullet

>>70975379
karl marx was a forced meme back then

>>70976961

don't forget bored marines who aren't allowed off base again.

>>70977351
Another nigger got rejected and went on a rape spree?

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>>70977123
Polonez > all, however.

>An advantage of Polonez is its passive safety. In 1978, it was the only East European car built to pass U.S. crash tests. Crash tests were performed in 1994 according to EU safety regulations so that the Polonez could be exported worldwide. They proved the car to be very safe. The Caro 1.9 GLD hitting a concrete block (without an energy-absorbing metal cage) with 40% of the front at 50 km/h (31 mph) survived very well. All doors could be opened without any difficulty, there were no critical injuries for passengers, and no fuel leakage occurred.

People had money but did not have the goods. All that expensive bottle of vodka had to buy from scalpers or through the high-ranking officials. Clothing, shoes, household appliances.
Many Soviet people had thousands of rubles in bank accounts. They just do not know where to spend it. After the fall of the Soviet Union the money turned into nothing.

>>70977401

i assume so but also just individual marines who aren't allowed off base

>>70977472
The marines go full retard with this shit. Keeping aging entire base on lockdown it curfew because of one bad apple. They should just send the black marines to sweden or Germany where they are wanted

>>70977560
*an

*or

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>>70977427
>Polonez
That was called "Polski Fiat" here, i thought they are just Ladas when i was a kid

>>70975809

Most of these statements are true even for modern capitalist Russia.

>>70977614
They're different cars.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FSO_Polonez
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polski_Fiat_125p

>>70977656
*slightly different.

>>70977560
>They should just send the black marines to sweden or Germany where they are wanted

9/10

>>70975871
>t. edgy underage
he's right though

Kinda shit but stable. Literally illegal to be unemployed, nobody worried if he could afford food or rent. I believe most people would take that deal even without free speech or 30 types of salami in the store

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>>70977427
> Polonez > all, however.

you forgot about the eternal czech
impressive even for western european standards, and correct me if I wrong but those cars were available for average citizens.

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>>70976344
Ok, here it goes.
I started a new thread here:

>>70980835

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>>70975379
Everyone was equal, there was no unemployment, everyone got food and drink, you'd always have a place to live, there was unprecedented civic unity and everyone worked towards a common goal.

Now we're ruled by corporations and greed is the law of the land.

Imagine living having no incentive to better yourself and goals to achive because the state guaranteed you a shit paying job and shit housing where social mobility does not exist.

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>>70975809

>>70975809
you couldnt do private business, some did though
rubbish, consumer goods today are trash
you can choose who you want to become, uni is exception, you werent let in some cases
you could lose your job and get assigner a worse one, no jail unless its stalinism era
my grandparents married in 2 churches
no, only to western countries
food is better and abundant (tfw you cant eat good quality bread anymore because its not profitable enough)
thats true
thats true
like in any other state
you do, laws reflect the way socialism is implemented though
not true
complete bullshit

>>70975379
Commies are the only one who made Ukraine starve, literally the worst scum humanity ever made, and we all must be happy that we can laugh on them casually.

Death is more preferable than communism

>>70981824

Urinians must be genocided, literally the worst scum humanity has ever produced

>>70975379

It was shit in some respects, not so bad in others but at least there was life. Now there is only death and decay. During communism we had:

-strong army
-strong borders
-no demographic crisis
-gypsies under control
-social security
-basically no crime
-culture and quality education
-patriotism was encouraged
-no cultural marxism or postmodern deconstruction of every aspect of the people's identity

It was shit but now it's a 1000 times worse

Basically the only thing that got really better with "democracy" was freedom of speech, but it's rolled back and there is a real possibility that the EU will become more totalitarian than the late USSR/Warsaw pact.

But the actual elites did not change, only their masters did. Which goes to my point that in the end, it's about Russians vs Americans/westernikes. And the Russians were a million times better.

We also did not have soviet bases on our soil. Now that we are "free", we have 3 American bases for which you niggers don't even pay rent.

>>70975379
p good i hear

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamophobic_incidents#Bulgaria

should be noted our formed communist party has enjoyed strong support even after "the fall of communism". they basically won the last presidential election and and they may or may not win the parliament soon

old people say they liked it because we had industry (and more national pride) and the government guaranteed a lot of things. now it's "freedom" and "competition" but it's considered successful people are scammers and mafia

>>70983501
>And the Russians were a million times better.
what's funny is today the russians / communist supporters are more christian / traditional

while the west thinks being a "progressive" is the communist way

>>70975809
>*Some cities are "closed" meaning you cannot visit them without official permission.
some cities were only opened to tourists
but there were also bulgarian-only beach cities as well

>>70975379
I depends on which country are we talking about. Communism regimes were not the same all over c/e Europe. For exp. in USSR religion was almost banned, when in Poland it was not. Yugoslavia had more economic freedom than countries under direct control of Moscow. Regime in USSR was a lot more bloodthirsty than in the vasal states. It is a very complex question. From my short personal memory (last few years of it): a very small selection of goods of any kinds (from food to cars), not much choices to travel anywhere, everyone being pissed about the party and talking about it (at least they could talk about it :) )

depends in which country
it was good here

>>70975809
>Food is poor quality.
Food was good.

I was born in 1987, can't remember.

>>70975809
Did you read Zamyatin and thought it's real life?

>>70975809
This applies to North Korea and Russia under Stalin. Not to Eastern Germany, Russia or Czechoslovakia in the 1980s, or Cuba today. Those places are a lot more free than you describe.

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>>70975809
>American has no problem talking about shit he knows very little about

>>70980783
Skoda was available, but not Tatra

>>70981299
>when_you_make_an_absolutely_abhorrent_post.jpg

>>70983637
>while the west thinks being a "progressive" is the communist way
the west doesn't think that

communism is not seen as "progressive"

liberalism is

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revive tsar trial and execute subversives to imperial restoration society and end to capitalist state brought by soviet union.

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>>70987935
counter revolutionaries to imperial revolution get gulagged.

>>70975809

I despise the commies but you are full of shit.

>You have no freedom or right to control your own destiny. The state tells you where you can live and what jobs you can have.

well, you had restrictions on movement and employment but if you really wanted, you could move in another town and get a job you studied for

>Consumer goods are poor quality and in short supply--it can take months to purchase a bicycle, TV set, or coffee table.

consumer goods were build sturdy as fuck but not polished, there are still tons of commie machines happily working to this day, the internally produced goods were available, the short supply did exist for the foreign goods

>Jobs are mostly assigned based on your status as a member of the proletarian class such as "worker" or "peasant", or because you have connections to some party bigshot, and you could be denied a job if a member of your family did something politically unacceptable.

In the beginning of it somewhat, at later stages not so much

>If you complain about anything, you go to jail or a labor camp.

lolno people complained all the time and tell tons of jokes about their communist overlords, it was not 1984, that could get you in trouble if you were actually acting against the communist rule

>Religion is either banned or strictly controlled by the state.

kind of true, it still remains however and by the looks of it is far more stronger than what is left in western europe

>You need permission to travel outside the country.

true

>Food is poor quality and limited in supply--markets often only have a few items on sale. People literally get sick and experience malnutrition from the shitty diet.

could not be further from the truth, food was abundant and made with no additives and preservantes the eastern block was BIG on agriculture and had pretty stocked shelves,
you could buy all the sausages, salami, eggs and milk you wanted but no bananas or grapefruits for example

cont/

>>70987459
This ^ is what most (ordinary) people say here as well.

>we were an actual country
>there was a decent economy and it could've been reformed
>there was order and discipline
>we had a real military
>drugs, crime, mafia were almost non-existent
>we could travel EVERYWHERE
>the scum in government cannot even maintain what was built from those times let alone build something new
etc..

>>70987935
looks like modern russia lmao

>>70988055
>>70975809

>There are no free elections and government officials do not have to answer to the public.

it was a single party state, the elections were symbolic, as for accountability the officials were held by the balls by the party and thus no major ills was inflicted to the majority of people

>All media, art, and entertainment must conform to the state agenda--this includes glorifying the party or the leader and schlocky propaganda art of muscled factory workers while demonizing whatever ideologies/people/countries the party wants demonized.

true to an extend, however artistic expression served a common goal to strengthen the nation s resolve and if you bother to watch any commie movie from the 70ties and 80ties you'd see the amount of humor and self-irony in them

>The print and electronic media only report whatever news the state wants you to hear while not mentioning what they don't want you to know.

kind of true as well, however the average person back in the day was far more geographically and politically literate than today.

>There is no independent judiciary and you do not have a right to a fair trial or legal representation.

let's put it this way, the amount of criminal trails was miniscule that what we generally have today and if you get to the point of being accused, well, you were as good as judged - criminals however were far and few between

>Hotels and apartments are bugged, so be careful what you say.

lolno


>Some cities are "closed" meaning you cannot visit them without official permission

lolno