How is life for a Middle Class Russian in Russia?

i dunno
probably shit
i bet its shit

>>70952568
I was asking a Russian

>>70952568
Is it getting-blind-drunk-every-occasion-you-get-and-doing-cocaine-and-being-an-obnoxious-cunt-tier shit though?

>>70952872
i am greek

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>>70952531

Bump.
Would like to know too.

>middle class russian
No such thing

>>70952531
>Middle Class Russian
> Poccии — $18 000
>it's about 1k $+ in month
>...
You tell me.

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>>70952531
I want to impregnate a a qt russian girl (female)

Bump this bitch, I'm curious.

>>70952531
90% of russians got less than $1000 monthly income, so it's hard to say that there is middle classin russia. if you live on the european MC level in Russia you are considered quite rich. on other hand being poor is pretty average and normal in russia. so... I'd say russian middle class living low in russia. to save on food, save money to buy some closes later, having no money in the end of the nonth, when youэмy got your pay 3 weeks ago - that's what is average in russia.

>>70953311
>the cats

Every time

>>70952531
>Middle Class Russian in Russia
Poor as a nigger in any real country

>>70953511
>russian girl (female)
>he parentheses sex

>>70953665
>when you've got your pay 3 weeks ago - that's what is average in russia.
fucking switcher

>>70953706
so many tranny prostitutes alongside regular postitutes in russia that you have to differentiate

You have car, house or apartment 80-100 sq.m. and 1000$ per month in Russia -> you are middle class russian.

>>70953665

this. If you make 300$/month in Russia, it is very good salary. Western people look at Russians through rich oligarchs, it's false impression. Russians are poor as fuck.

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>>70953745
What finnish boypucci meme means then ? You can even google it and he send you to int.

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>>70952531
there's no life here

>>70954057
>Russians are poor as fuck.
B.b..but muh Putin is based meme

>>70953370
This

>>70954159
What problem ? Putin is rich as fuck. Russians ? Who care about slave and scum ? See you, sir.

>>70952967
But I am Greek.

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>>70954101
Are any of you Greek?

>>70954057
I'd say $600-700 is considered brety good, $300 is not the worst possible, but not also a good salary.

>>70954235
I only practice greek love sometimes

>>70954210
Nah no problem I'm taking a swipe at people who call Putin based when in reality he is just another dictatorfag not utilizing his countries resources and labour force to help the people. Russia could be richer than places like Slovenia, Czechia and Poland it has some of the best intellectual institutions but it's either squandered or repressed.

Russia's per capita GDP is about $14,000 which doesn't sound terrible, but you have to realize that St. Petersburg and Moscow contain a disproportionate amount of the wealth in the country, most of which is snow Brazil.

>>70954320
Fags out.

>>70954273
>>70954057
The thing about salaries is you have to consider if you live in Moscow/Petersburg or any of the smaller shit towns.

>>70952531
Upper middle class here (50k$/yr). Life is kind of fine.

Banks suck a lot though if you want to deal with lots of money (30k$ and more). Local investments are hopeless. Only junk small business has some potential, like fastfood restaurants or budget/family restaurants, shit like that.

Non-private health care sucks balls. Literally useless. Almost no private garages as well, have to park my a7 near my house (had my tires punctured twice for the lifetime of this car).

Family-related stuff is complete garbage and insanity. You have to register in a queue to get your kid into a kindergarten/school like 5 years prior to the actual event. Like wtf, fucking retards. Public school quality is shit. Private schools almost aren't a thing. Everything sucks.

Though 50k$/yr is probably like lower-middle class in USA/Canada, so who cares.

>>70954526
50k a year is flight attendant and librarian money.

>>70954526
Forgot to add - if your income is 70k or more, you're much better of organizing the job remotely somehow and move somewhere else. If lower than ~70k, you might have troubles living even like a lower middle class somewhere else, because ruble eats ass.

>>70954607
50k a year is about 8-10 times the average salary in Moscow (it's where I live) here. Read: 8-10 times more than the lower class.

>>70954607
lel not here where we pay 40+% income tax

>>70954439
I was talking about the cities with population about 1 million, like Chelyabinsk, Yekaterinburg and Kazan. Never lived in Moscow and S.P, I suppose it about $1000 per month salary is considered not bad there. In small shitty towns maybe even $300 is good,that polish anon might be right.

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So Russia is like a second world India with snowniggers?

>>70952531
No money to travel. Not enough money to pay rent and buy food. So we have to live with our parents even when we are like 24 yo.

Nuke us.

>>70952531
There is no middle class in Russia

$300 \ month

>>70954763
Can confirm.
24 yo
living with parents
can't afford beef or pork every day
never been abroad or on any kind of vacations in general

>>70952531
Russians tend to save money on everyday needs and buy luxury stuff. On my prevuous job deputy director had a salary about $5000 ($10000 before crisis) and he brought food from home in trays because canteen was expensive for him and always asked cigarettes. At the same time he weared Gucci suits and Swiss watches.

>>70955016
What the actual fuck?

>>70954950
A vacation in turkey would be cheap as fuck
Why don't you come to antalya like other russians?

>>70955047
An example:
>>70954526
said that he owns Audi A7 while making $50k/year. European with such salary probably drives 1990's Peugeot.

>>70955146
The cheapest trip to Turkey you can get will cost around $1700-$2000
My wage is $300, $50-70 of which is rent. At the end of a month there is simply no money left to save up.

>>70955146
we could afford to travel to Turkey before the 2014-2015, when this shit with the oil and sanctions happened. I've been to Turkey 2 times before 2014, and now I wouldn't waste my money for such trip. You need at least $1000 for it and that became expensive now.

>>70952531
I think having a secondhand car is not sign of middle class. Not sure in existence of middle class in Russia at all, damn to Anatoly Chubais. Average businessman even don't have a room for business in private property

>>70955309
What do you do? I mean work?

>>70954950
>24
>never been abroad or on any kind of vacations in general
Wtf man? I and my sister were raised by a single mom, and yet i have traveled to Spain, Turkey, Bulgaria, bus-traveled western Europe two times.
And my mom salary wasn't that high, around 1000-1500$ (90's-mid 00's), besides that i'm living in far east, so has to spend considerable amount of money to get in Moscow.

>>70955405
>damn to Anatoly Chubais
kek

>>70955515
I don't know what do you want to hear from me. Travelling is beyond our possibilities.

>>70955515
>sister
Is she a qt?
Post.

>>70955499
Testing aeroplane equipment. No, it's not exciting, I just test processing units and controllers for heat\cold\moist resistance by putting them into ovens, freezers and moisturisers.

>>70955791
I have to agree with this anon

>>70954235
all me btw

>>70955798
Shit $300/month for that? How many hours/days a week? Also what qualifications does that kind of work requires?

>>70955595
I just feel pity for our country, it has some great capacity, but fail to fulfill them.

>>70954335
we saw what happens when russians try to help the people
it's gulags

Russians in this thread are so fucking annoying, lol. Don't get the image of Russia by what these faggots say. Yes, Russia suck, but not to the point of living with parents at 24 and earning $300/mo. That's like below the lower class here.

Sadly that's almost the only type of people among russians at least that you would encounter on the imageboards. Enjoy the very participants of the russian imageboard culture.

>>70952531
>Middle Class
>in Russia
no such thing
You're either a richboi sonny of some oligarch and you swim in caviar and hookers, or you're living on the freezing street, starving and killing people for a dose of krokodil

>>70955876
8 to 5, the first two weeks of a month it's 5 days a week, the third week it's 6 days a week and the fourth week it's 7 days a week.

>>70955309
> The cheapest trip to Turkey you can get will cost around $1700-$2000
Vladivostok?
You should fly to Thailand then bro

>>70956028
What are the qualifications? Please answer

>>70956166
>qualifications
Excuse me?

>>70956249
Err requirements? What do I need to get that job?

>>70956249
What kind of qualifications or educational experience do you need to get that job?

>>70956318
University or a college degree in any of the technical sciences.

>>70955935
There are a lot of jobs with $300 or less salary. I worked as assistant professor for exactly $300. All dead-end jobs in Russia make you working poor. The only exceptions are programmer and pilot (or even flight attendant) because they can work abroad so employers pay them according to world market.

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>>70955969
Fugg

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>>70956411
>Has technical science degree
>Doesn't knows meaning of qualification
>Russian education

>>70955309
>The cheapest trip to Turkey you can get will cost around $1700-$2000
go to thailand, the ticket is expensive (from paris like 500/600€) but everything is cheap as fuck there and tons ofactivity. and lots of hooker of course. For 1200€ you can live like a king for 20days

>>70955309
>$50-70 of which is rent
What?

>>70956318
You need to poo in the loo.

>>70956516
>doesn't knows
>indian education

>>70956520
I simply cannot afford spending any money on something other than basic stuff like food, clothes and transportation.

>>70956541
The monthly rent is around 4000 roubles (65$)

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>>70956559
>tfw rich enough to have a white american servant who reminds me to take a poo

Step up your game lads

>>70956468
You don't just go to some magical website and start working abroad. No small company would fuck around with such scum as russian remote worker. That's the most unreliable thing to do.

For how much employers ask abroad + for the English knowledge, if you make an equivalent in any other field, you won't find cheap ass jobs.

In russia, only those who have no skills and no experience work and live like a complete waste. There is plentiful of people who earn ~850$ and live a healthy life (as long as they don't spoil it themselves).

And, by coincidence or not, those unskilled unexperienced workers are usually the ones who just graduated and didn't have an internship, which indicates that the uni/college they were in is a fucking trash bag, which is who they are right now, working for 300$/mo and living with parents. You fucked your life yourself, the country didn't do that for you. Maybe you should've spent less time on 2ch in your college days and instead was looking for a part time job or a different place to study in.

>>70956676
You are literally lower than a nigger. Everything you say, do, and believe means absolutely nothing.

>>70956568
There is nothing wrong with my grammar. I'm sorry that you couldn't afford proper education though.

>>70956614
i don't know how can people can live with little money like that, if i was in this situatuon i'll start dealing drugs on the darklent or some shit but this isn't a life desu

>>70956832
>this isn't a life
Yeah, it is not a life.

>>70956806
Im sorry that youre an indian.

>>70956748
>Being this butthurt

Lel btfo nigger

>>70956683
Neurosurgeon $500 a month — https://www.superjob.ru/vakansii/nejrohirurg-28206013.html

Aerospace engineer-constructor at Sukhoi — $600 https://m.hh.ru/vacancy/10725154

And it is Moscow, in regions salaries are 2-3 times lower.

>>70956951
>Neurosurgeon $500 a month
Oh fuck, this is just sad.

>>70956951
>mfw mother therapist have 1400$ and father surgeon 1800$

>>70956951
Eбaть ты лoх. Зapeгиcтpиpoвaл OOO в нaлoгoвoй и yжe 5к пoднял. И этo в peгиoнaх, в мocквe дopoжe. A тaких peгиcтpaция я в мecяц мoгy дecятoк пpoвecти, нe cчитaя дpyгих дeл. B cyдe пpeдcтaвитeльcтвo в peaлиях poccии нaчинaeтcя oт 5-10к дo бecкoнeчнocти+пpoцeнты oт выигpышa. Лooooшaaaappaaaa инжeнepиcтaя.

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>>70957203
>going to work for less than 2000€ per month

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>>70957055
At my mothers work there are Romanians and Nigerians who arrived here last year making £7.20/hr

This 19 year old makes your monthly salary in a few minutes from texts and pictures

https://twitter.com/ChelseaFindom97

>>70957459
but western food clothin etc is a lot more expensive

>>70957459
Yeah, i'm gonna kms in a year or something

>>70956951
Currently studying in medical uni.
I have decided to make a small start up to earn enough money so I could GTFO to Germany or other European country with free education to attned uni over there.
Then I will go for permanent residence over there.

>>70954057
we don't think that, we're well aware it's an unequal shithole

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>>70957556
But these Nigerians have no qualifications, sure the living costs are much higher but christ its better than $500/mo as a neurosurgeon. Why do all the dumb plebs from your country come here to work minimum wage when everything is so cheap in your cunt, its better here even if you clean up elderly peoples shit with pakistanis

>>70957727
have fun sucking refugee dick. I hate people like you

>>70957459
>https://twitter.com/ChelseaFindom97
she's fucking ugly

>>70957792
I dont know. I admit my country isn't doing great economically compared to western countries but its still mine and i wouldn't want it any other way.

>>70957829
Why do you hate people like me?
I am not going to suck dicks.
Also, at least I will have a degree.
And by the way your opinion on refugees doesn't matter as long as Germany provide wide opportunities for us.

>>70958064
Because you are selling yourself for money. You have a different perception of the things here. You don't become rich. You will be poor living in agony with the worst scum of "people". And you will have no purpose outside of money, even if all your money is consumed by tax and living/housing

>>70958173
Money is the only valuable thing for me anyway

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Low-middle class take their vacations in Bulgaria.

>>70956660
My rent is 790€ and I'm a NEET

>>70958296
Because it's cheap af even for poorfags
literally africa tier
t.knower

>>70952531
Sad!

>>70958374
Poor Russians are not exactly tourists, they are more like...migrants. You can see them negotiating the price of a can of food in the stores, and they cut queues. They are intent on speaking Russian everywhere, but they're not belligerent overall, only ill-mannered.

Some russianfag
¿What quality of life can i have with 2000 dollars per month?

>>70958961
You can expect shitty weather, rubbish everywhere and awful roads

>>70958961
Above the average.

In Moscow: apartment rent (not in suburbs but not in the center either), average car maintenance (like kia rio, ~40km a day), essentials (very good internet like 100up/100down, proper food, phone), hobby spendings (gym, painting stuff, books, whatevs), extras (pizza/sushi twice a week, stuff like that).
And you will still have around 10-20% (depends on the extras) of your salary left for savings.

>>70959322
Thanks ivan :^)

Well, my parents each make 1500$ per month. Ask your questions.

>>70959919
Are you a virgin?

>>70959919
Your parents have single-man salary to sustain 3 people? Ask you what?

>>70952531
Middle class reporting. Life is quite hedonistic - we just waste money to sex, drugs, rock & roll.

https://youtu.be/PgoEuay-5v4

Important notification also. All Russian anon's here are poorfag losers. I'm is outsider, i'm visit this place only for trolling non-sucessful people. So when you asking such people about sucessful life - this is funny really.

https://youtu.be/ODLbiQsweCE

>>70957792
Sauce?

>>70952531
there are only starving, poor and oligarch tier in russia

>>70959322
Russia seems like a cool place to be if you have enough money

>>70960060
Yes
>>70960100
In totall we have 200 000 roubles per month for 4 people (including my sister), I guess that can be called middle class in Russia.

>>70960134
Also cp and aids from drugs

>>70960313
>Yes
WTF is wrong with you people, all this prime East slavic pussy, and you a virgin. OK, listen up, unless you're horribly disfigured--which I admit is often the case on 4chan, you need male friends. Chicks come to you when you have friends.

>>70958961
>2000 dollars
is 6 average salaries

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>>70960313
> 200 000 roubles
>two shitty jobs in Moscow 100 000 rubles each
>middle class
kek

>>70960612
All my friends are virgins except one dude who buys whores and one who is alpha fucking a different girls each month.

>>70960658
>100 000 roubles per month NOT in Moscow
Yeah, literally poorfags.

>>70952958
>and-doing-cocaine-
I don't think a middle class Russian is regularly affording cocaine unless that's what they call amphetamines.

>>70960612
>Be Russian
>Fuck sluts
>Get aids
Good plan

>>70960742
middle class =
god quality of life - big house, few auto, best shools, clinics etc,
half of income money go to account in bank.

untill your income is not equal to 500 000 -600 000 rubles per month you are porfag, no matter in what shithole do you live.

>>70960974
I tried cocaine once, it was meh.

>>70960612
Yeah, not happening. We are here for a reason.

>>70961026
>Big house
>Few auto
Lol I wouldn't have any of this is I were rich.

>>70961026
We have 2 cars, 4 room apartment in gated new commieblock and I study for free in one of the best Moscow state universities. You should realize we live not in Finland with its prices.

>>70961026
forgot this, my error. For Russia middle class = 180 000 monthly income per family member... before sanction, when dollar is two time cheaper, ~ 400 000 in current tme. Clculate this income to 4 family members = 1 600 000 per month.
>200 000
You are poor person.

>>70961026
And you really described what is upper middle class in the USA. Standarts here are lower.

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>>70956411
>Has technical science degree
>makes 300$/month
>In my country you'd start with 6500$/month after you graduate in something similar, this is just ridiculous

>>70961194
>commieblock in ghetto
>not private house
>middle class
kek

>>70961351
Dude, you will barely find middle class people with sich critetias in the whole world.

>>70961429
Yeah, whatever. As you wish.

>>70957727
That's cool but don't bring your nigger views here, we don't like putin or your chimp politics when arriving in a new country remember why you left your shithole, because chimps like you fucked it up.

>>70961381
Would you stop, I'm on the verge as it is.
Besides, at least I have cheap internet.

>>70961524
>educated specialists fucked up France
>not millions of niggers and arabs leeching welfare

>>70961430
>1 600 000 rubles per family
>27 000 dollars per family
but prices in US much lower.
>20 000 dollars per two working people - two jobs 10 000 dollars each.
They quantity is huge in US.

>>70954235
denbts
paythem

>>70961663
>10 000 wage per month
Dude, average there is arou s 2500, qualified specialists have something around 6-7k, alo blyat, ty obosralsya

>>70961855
>2500
untermench jobs for Ahmet/Ivan migrants
>7k
ordinary job for white people

I know ordinary people who have 500 Euro per day of work in EU actually.

>>70958230
dont listen to that retard
he is probably a neckbeard loser who has no idea about life

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>>70961637
>russian specialists

we see how's that going for ya chap

>>70960313
Lower middle class at best. Borderline lower class.

If they pay for both yours and your sister's education, then you're basically living in the lower class conditions.

IS THERE A MIDDLE CLASS IN RUSSIA?

>>70963491
There is no such thing as a middle class in 3rd world countries, only poor and rich people.

>>70963649
That what I think, but worry not, most "first world countries" are starting to follow suit.

>>70963750
>most "first world countries" are starting to follow suit
This meme has been around for at least a century and we even had two world wars and multiple economic crises in the meantime.

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>>70963491
Of course there is.

>>70963933
and it is actually true. you just live in germany so you don't know yet

>>70955923
Russian Empire was based.
>>70954335
It had.

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>>70964058
it's a fake
it's just an image in the internet
you liar
there's no life in russia
russia doesn't exist
all russia it's a big western media fake

>>70952531
comfy

>>70955798
Nephew of my graqndpa gets 600€(now maybe 400€ due to ruble downfall ,truck mechanic, vladimir oblast, live in village)

Lives with his parents in owned house/dacha, bc no gf/wife. Drives his own lada.

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>>70952531
It's shit. The Russian diaspora in Estonia has shut their mouth from 2010ish. Before that they used to beat the drum on how good Russia was.

>>70969302
what happened in 2010, sanctions or what

>>70969679
I think you know what happened in Russia in 2010