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Is it crazy for somebody to believe in a religion that the majority of their ethnicity doesn't believe in?

what do you think /int/?
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>>70923996
>Is it crazy for somebody to believe in a religion
yes
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>>70924539
t. Robespierre
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>>70924539
fpbp
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>>70923996
It's not, the Special Snowflake syndrome has no limits
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>>70924539
Objective truth.
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>>70924539
Voltaire coming in with the bants.
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>>70924539
How's that godless society of yours coming along?

All you had to do was support the Church and they'd deal with all your problems.
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>>70932917
this

>have a godless society
>nobody procreates
>3rd world people come in and have heaps of children
>take over
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>>70928955
More like the religion is pressed on them by their parents, who had it pressed on them by their parents and so on. People aren't born and think "heh ima be a hipster" or "im gonna follow this particular religion" that's not how culture and religions work.
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>>70933037
The irony of all this is that the descendants of these self-proclaimed atheists will be forced to become Islamic fundamentalists.
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>>70923996
that's a pretty dumb statment considering jesus and the first christians were jew.
Also buddha wasn't also a chink.
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>>70932917
The Church can't/won't deal with anything today in any country that's worth shit.

>>70933071
The irony is muslim extremism wouldn't even be a thing to be concerned about if it wasn't for your dumb ass politicians.
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>>70933136
they were hebrew technically

but yeah there a crap tonne of non-white christians, probably more non-white christians than there are white ones
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>>70933154
the Islamic world has been trying to conquer the planet for 1400 years, islamic extremism isn't a new thing
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>>70933037
Proportionally-speaking, both Australia and U.S get way more migrants relative to their birth population than France.
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>>70932917
And how's your godly society going, Murica?
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>>70933197
The region where they are centred was pretty stable and heading towards high levels of education, reformation and secularism 20-30 years ago though...
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>>70933257
Now you know why the west fucked it over in the first place
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>>70933197
Pretty much what >>70933257 said.
Christianity used to do the same shit, and both societies started heading towards enlightened secularism almost as the same time, but then the US did what it could to make them regress.
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>>70924539
Underrated
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>>70933154
>The Church can't/won't deal with anything today in any country that's worth shit.

The Church is still very effective in undermining Islamic countries and in lobbying its interests in the west.

>The irony is muslim extremism wouldn't even be a thing to be concerned about if it wasn't for your dumb ass politicians.

Are we forgetting that the Levant and Anatolia were Christian? How about those countless attempts to conquer Europe? Just because they had a peaceful period that lasted a few decades doesn't diminish them as a threat.

>>70933239
>posting downtown Detroit as your argument

Christianity in America still keeps the degeneracy to a minimum.
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>>70923996
No
>>70933197
The only time empires acting like empires and seeking territory on expanse on other empires is considered religious extremism is when it comes to Islam? Lel
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>>70933474
yeah because that's what I said
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>>70933441
>The Church is still very effective in undermining Islamic countries and in lobbying its interests in the west.

What the fuck are you talking about. At least in Europe the church is actively lobbying to elevate Muslim communities to the same status as them because they rather prefer expanding their privileges to other religious communities than to lose them.
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>>70933441
Right
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>>70933441
Christianity in the U.S is a joke and a business model. Everything is commercialised and reduced to nothing but money and degeneracy in the U.S. This is quickly becoming the norm for the entire world too. Nothing matters in a capitalist world except money. Tradition, culture, sentiment, honour, loyalty, decency and simply trying to make your country a better place for your people...all of these are irrelevant and actively shoved aside as money becomes the only relevant force in the world.
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>>70933504
Thats just a joke just like pudin is kebab remover no. 1 :DD
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>>70933441
>Christianity in America still keeps the degeneracy to a minimum.
howling
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>>70933565
>most irreligious states are the ones with the lower rates

How can christcucks ever recover?
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>>70933565
I think he means the lgbt stuff. However even then it's debatable now.

Women getting married/having children at a young age has always been happening.
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>>70933601
religious people having children while atheists don't is a good thing for the religious imo
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>>70933504
Some examples:
-support for Muslim faith schools and Islamic RE because the Churcey want to keep their own educational privileges

-support for the decriminalization of infant circumcision because the churches wants to prevent a precedent where the negative religious freedom and self-determination of the child is trumping the religious expression of the parents

-support for Muslim representation in media and other institutions because they want to keep their own representation

etc.
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>>70933640
>single white trash moms having tons of children is good

Ok.
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>>70933612
>>70933640
It's not just having children m8. It's girls having children when they aren't even out of school.
And STDs as well.
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>>70933698
>single white trash moms having tons of children is good

when did i say this
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>>70933612
They would get married and have children at a young age to settle for a family
Not whore around irresponsibly
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>>70933565
>starting families young is a bad thing

How's that aging Canadian population that's being supplemented by an influx of Chinese and Pakistani immigrants?

>>70933509
Looks like an out of context quote. Besides, if he directly insulted them, we'd have a chimp-out on our hands. That's what happened the last time Benedict dropped the truth bomb on them. It's better to work covertly to undermine their cause.

>>70933504
That's the dumbest thing I've ever read. From what I know, it's the Christians in Germany that are campaigning for traditional family values. Meanwhile, it's mostly atheists/secularists that want to open your borders.

>>70933556
Perhaps that's the case with Protestantism.
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>>70933721
You said it's a good thing for religious people. While they may think it is, the truth is that they remain poorer because of this.
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>>70933704
I said two things

1. Women getting married at a young age (18+) and having a bunch of children is no problem

2.Religious people having heaps of kids while atheists refuse to have children have abortions is a good thing for the religious

Having sex with heaps of strangers and getting STDs is bad. I agree
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>>70933801
>You said it's a good thing for religious people.

correct. Nothing about single white trash mothers though
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>>70933748
Stop speaking out of your ass fatty
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>>70933494
You are just butthurt
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>>70933748
>Christians in Germany that are campaigning for traditional family values. Meanwhile, it's mostly atheists/secularists that want to open your borders.

It's the complete opposite lmao. The Christian conservative party opened the floodgates and you have probably ests all over the country giving shelter to asylum seekers and illegal. immigrants without any legal bases. They call it 'church asylum' look it up. It's literally hiding illegals in churchs from the police.

Read my other post, too.

http://www.kirchenasyl.de/herzlich-willkommen/welcome/
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>>70933868
He misquoted me and puts words in my mouth. Please explain how asking not to do this makes me butthurt.
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They are fatties too.
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The churches in Germany are literally the biggest lobby groups that are pushing for the expansion of religious privileges for Muslims and more relaxed asylum policies and this dumb American has no clue.
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>>70933693

I don't know why everybody in europe dislike circumcision so much, everybody in the US does it and it's not like its something dramatically bad.
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>>70933854
Stop talking crap, atheists are overwhelmingly lefties.
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>>70933748
What?
Protestantism is the least commercialised. Remember Christianity is about power retention and control. Protestantism exists in the first place to circumvent the greedy middleman of other sects, to simply embrace the belief without greedy cunts trying to scab money off of you and control you.
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>>70933992
>I don't know why everybody in the west dislike circumcision so much, everybody in the Africa does it and it's not like its something dramatically bad.
Would you say this?
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>>70933992
This. Breitbart also agrees on this
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>>70933870
>>70933931
Which churches are we talking about? It doesn't even surprise me if it's the L*therans that advocate for the destruction of the civilized world.
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>>70934020
this.

Once heard a bunch of girls in my class talk about how many men they're slept with; the highest was 15. This was when I was in year 12.

0 of these women were religious and in fact resented religion as a whole
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>>70934024
>Protestantism is the least commercialised
>muh greedy bishops

Now you're just posting Protestant memes.
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>>70933992
It's an utterly barbaric practice that needs to be banned. You can't fathdom how foreign and strange this appears to the average European.

It violates at least three fundamental rights of the most vulnerable members of our society. The negative religious freedom of the child, its bodily integrity and its self-determination.
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>>70934020
No shit. Rightists in the U.S are largely retarded, less educated and less intelligent. That doesn't speak for the opinions themselves, I'm talking of the people. Rightists in many European countries for example are actually intelligent. These days rightism serves the purpose of fostering power for corporations in most countries, to a degree.

I'm not saying voting for Trump makes you stupid. I dislike both Clinton and Trump, I'm just saying in general.
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>>70934020
>turn your cheek
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>>70934141
>meant only to be used in the context of a verbal argument
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>>70934122
>Rightists in many European countries for example are actually intelligent.

Maybe the most upper echolons. The rest is pretty dumb
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>>70934020
1. Devote christians around the world aren't like your average gun toning US christians
2. You think christians in US supporting trump somehow means they're not degenerate?
3. You have communities like in russia where they push for muslims to be more religious because they actually want to be conservative, not just "conservative" like trump whores in bikinis
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>>70934059
The pope himself called upon Europe to take moe asylum seekers, calling the Quran his book and calling Muslims his brothers. In what kind of sheltered alternative dimension are you living.?
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>>70934077
Didn't you just say it was good people were having children at a young age who are religious? You realise they are having children because they don't know how reproduction works or what protection is, they have lots of sex like everyone else it's just they accidentally get pregnant. It's not okay for irreligious people to do it smartly but it's okay for religious people to do it and shit up the world with low-life cretins?
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>>70934245
if you read what I said you wouldn't be asking this
>>70933821
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>>70934171
>misinterpreting

>love your enemies
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>>70934300
there's a difference between tolerance and love
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>>70933821
Look at sweden
Look at poland
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>>70934325
what about them?
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>>70934349
There's a trend about more athiest countries having children and more christian countries having less
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>>70934385
re-read what I said
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>>70934283
Okay...but religious people are the one's doing what you said is bad. Yet you implied you hated non-religious people doing the same thing without shitting up the world with useless children who will never get a decent education or be a positive force on the world. Not to mention these are in two different countries, religious people are less zealous here and we don't have the same societal issues.
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>>70934415
Never did I say or imply that we should be having children that will never do anything or achieve anything.
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>>70934020
Hard leftists are anti-theist, they oppose Islam. and Christianity because it makes no difference which abrahamic religion is trying to impose its iron age morals.

The reason why they favored Clinton is because Pence is a fucking Taliban - tier nutter.
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>>70934325
>>70934385
The only reason that 'atheist' countries such as France or Sweden have their fertility rates fluffed up is because of massive Islamic immigration.

Poland's data is skewed since so many young people live abroad.

>>70934208
Don't tell me that you bought into the narrative of the (((media)))?

>Francis: Countries should accept only as many refugees as they can integrate

https://www.ncronline.org/news/vatican/francis-countries-should-accept-only-many-refugees-they-can-integrate

>>70934206
Most US Christians are all right in my book, I'm not even from here.
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>>70934474
>iron age morals
If our Christian morals are iron age, then that just proves my point that the core beliefs you atheists hold dead are indeed leftist.
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>>70934097

It's part of many cultures and is part of religious expression.

I would say that your naked beaches, LGBT parades, or especially Germany's robotic culture are all pretty foreign to the average person too.
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>>70934474
>Pence is a fucking Taliban - tier nutter.
Rev up those polling stations, I'm sure the Israeli nationalist will improve the situation in your country.
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>american btfoing everyone itt
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>>70934515
>The only reason that 'atheist' countries such as France or Sweden have their fertility rates fluffed up is because of massive Islamic immigration.
Lel and I guess that also expains iceland's high birth rate right?
>Poland's data is skewed since so many young people live abroad.
Lmao
Most young poles still live in poland, it's never enough to cause dramatic change
And polish diaspora women have the reputation of being coalburners
Your point?
>Most US Christians are all right in my book, I'm not even from here.
Sure you're not
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>>70934561
Religion is a net negative.
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>>70934474
Clinton is insane and a blatant criminal. Trump is a generic business man who doesn't know what he's doing.

If voters thought for themselves, they wouldn't even be candidates, they vote for whatever the propaganda they ascribe to tells them to vote for. It has nothing to do with so-called rightism and leftism, these are pretty vague and encompassing to begin with. They aren't two opposing groups. Then again there is evidence Hillary rigged the primary with fake votes and the whole voting thing is a big fucking scam, no matter the country. So maybe non-indoctrinated robotic voters wouldn't make a difference.
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>>70924539
I unironically can't comprehend how the fuck you can believe in god. The whole concept is a fucking nonsense
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>>70934696
You're the one to point fingers at who's a coalburner, half your women here are hookers.
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>>70934806
this

>there was nothing
>then a big bang out of nothing
>then earth formed
>sun magically a perfect distance from the earth
>gravity level perfect for life to begin
>air outta nowhere
>first single celled molecule pops outta nothing and begins duplicating itself

how can people not believe this lol
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>>70934867
nice
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>>70934867
Earth is an anomaly anon. Its not the norm
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>>70934940
I know, the odds of all the laws being in place to support life are so low it's crazy how it just happened on its own
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>>70934867
>implying that's how it works
You can't refute various complicated disciplines that take years to properly understand just because you don't know their basics or have an inkling to their depth.

Also all of that is just present theory, it is all open to being refined or entirely replaced. All of it is based on evidence, if new evidence contradicts it, it is refined or completely done away with. For example: "the Big Bang" is disputed by many scientists, as there are many alternate theories. Also none of those theories include an explosion or anything of the sort out of nothing, there is no "nothing" in those theories either. All of what you sum up are incredibly long, complicated and highly disputed processes that occur over several billion years.

One idea of the initial spark of life spawning on Earth is that it was transferred from elsewhere (obviously in a very simplistic form) via an astronomical body, like an asteroid. Though there is no evidence for this, just as there is no evidence to indicate the original spark in any sense. Meaning there is no diction in science on exactly how it begun, only some speculation and dictation on how it developed afterwards.
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>>70934975
If you a infinite line of random numbers then somewhere in it you will find 123456789...
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>>70935118
right. So the odds of us being here by chance are 1 into the trillions. really crazy
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>>70923996
>White Muslims
Yes, this is weird to the point of being viewed as a race-traitor. Unless you're talking about "white" people like Chechnyans. If you're a blonde haired blue eyed Muslim people will laugh at you.

>Arab Christians
Wtf no, why would that be weird? Christianity originated in that region. There are way less Christians than Muslims but it's not weird. Chinese Christians are way weirder than that.
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>>70923996
You can argue that ashkenazi jews are an ethnicity, but religion in general is not.
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>>70923996
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>>70934595
but america has those too
in fact they originate from america
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>>70935136
There are trillions of planets in our galaxy alone. This is based on evidence we have so far, usually every time we get new info we have to increase the estimated amounts of everything regarding astronomical bodies. So it is possible that there are beyond trillions. Of those trillions about 1/5 are Earth-like. At the moment there is estimated to be 200 billion galaxies. They differ in size, most are larger than our own, so would have more planets. However as I said before we constantly have to mark up estimated numbers with new evidence, so it is likely much higher again.
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>>70934975
The universe is massive you dumb abonigger. The chances of something like that NOT happening are impossible.
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>>70935390
never said it was impossible
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>>70923996
I'm fine with arab Christians. Its nice to actually see civilised brown people
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>>70935407
I'm not saying your skepticism is misplaced but just learn about it if you really want to not be retarded. The ideas and theories in place aren't just random shit, they are highly rigorous distillments of various pieces of evidence. There are not factual, they are the best we can derive from what we know. You should question it, as it will almost certainly be refined in the future but don't think that some cunts just made up some random shit, because they really didn't.
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>>70934862
I'm not puerto rican
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>>70935634
Sure you're not.
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>>70935745
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>>70924539
fpbp
>tfw you came here only to say this and another baguette already stole all your (yous)
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>>70934867
It's just big bang theory. There more theories like multiverse.They describe this planet creation different. And if we talk about condition they were obviously not perfect. You just omitting billions years of evolution
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>>70935831
multiverse has zero evidence either. They say there's a universe generation that craps out universes. Sounds like sci-fi to me 2bh. They gotta stop watching star trek.
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>>70933612
Why is lgb degenerate ?
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>>70935887
not interested in arguing itt anymore but essentially;

Gays are 50x more likely to gets aids than straight people, monogamy is literally non-existent in homosexual relationships and all pedos are either gay or bi
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>>70934046
>>70934046
the fag is just jealous. Opinion discarded
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>>70935868
Quantum computers sound like a fucking sci-fi too but shit works.
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>>70935790
By the way, are you that Aussie Muslim?
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>>70935990
no, baptist
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>>70936003
Have you ever watched Steve Anderson's sermoms? A lot of your pastors have balls, desu.
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>>70936039
Sermons*
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>>70936039
yes haha. I'm subbed to him on youtube. His docos are really great too
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do arab christians say allahu akbar?
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>>70933257
not true outside a tiny elite class
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>>70935381

actually, your information is outdated, the number of known galaxies is around 2 trillion from what I heard earlier
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>>70936081
afaik yes. Because allah means god in arabic. Not sure about how truthful this is
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>>70935745
I'm not
I'm the regular jordanian
But i'm not home and wifi is too slow here
When i open 3g it changes my flag to puerto rico (dunno why)
It's too dark outside but anyway
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>>70936081
Nope
They say inshallah mashallah etc. but not allahu akbar
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>>70932917
A proper godless society would tell religious extremists like these to fuck right off.
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>>70933992
Jews mutilating your penis
> not bad
Shlomo pls go
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>>70923996
Let the Way of Fap rule your life.

Seriously, becoming religious is a cry for help to all of the people when people near you are not listening to you the way you want them to listen you. I.e. getting religious is a totally personal thing. A way Too personal thing, if I may add.

Been there done that. Dropped it also, both because it (due to a thought) suddenly didn't make any sense And I met some new people who were just who they were.

I think meeting all kinds of new people in this supervised woodworking voluntary class got me back to reality.

I made a table and four chairs, birchwood, tools, glue, stain, grain sealant and top oil.
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>>70934806
you'd be surprised at how easily people can be convinced that the most retarded bullshit is real. Indoctrination is fucking strong
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>>70924539
This, based Pierre
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>>70936343
just to be clear, this reply was made by an actual Puerto Rican, not the jordanian
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>>70936343
>you'd be surprised
You can check my flag and google in how much different shit people in my country have been believing for the past 100 years
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>>70936438
then you should comprehend it by now..
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>>70936520
Well afsik my comprehension doesn't affect others'. That's why I posted why people still believe in shit
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>>70923996
>that flag
>that post
how surprising.
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>>70923996
I hope you know that most christians aren't """white"""
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>>70924539
in 2017, sure.
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>>70933441
but christianity in America is retarded. Probably the only good christians in America would be black baptists/methodists.
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>>70936878
>heretics
>good
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>>70923996
>Is it crazy for somebody to believe in a religion that the majority of their ethnicity doesn't believe in?
No, but in most cases it's disgusting.
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>>70939929

In which cases it wouldn't be?
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>>70934046
Kike
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>>70932917
christian churches are the biggest cucks when it comes to islam.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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