>be American >get natural selection'd

>>70909255

Not saying this might not be true, bit irl I don't know anyone who voted for Trump that is also on Obamacare.

>>70909255
evolution is beautiful

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>>70909255
>t-this all the es jay dubyas fault
>if they hadn't been so mean to the white working class™ they totally would have voted for Shillary
>it's totally not their fault they keeping voting for racist demagogues who screw them over

Are you guys ready for 2008 on steroids?

>>70909255

>Don't '''believe''' in evolution
>Support social darwinism

'Merrica

>>70909699
Avatar fagging is a bannable offense

>>70913798
Some third of your countrymen at minimum are young Earth creationists and many of the rest believe in evolution directed by supreme being.

>>70914095
I can see we've come to the point where we use MS Paint comics we found on /pol/ as a source.

i believe in the green vote next time
though more likely people will forgive trump for everything just because he speaks like them

>>70909699
I literally have a pre-existing condition that caused insurance companies refuse to insure me pre-ACA. I still voted Trump even though I might die, because I know that he's gonna help America as a whole become great. You may use all the smug greentext you want, but I'm literally willing to die for my country. Lib faggots like you are gonna be the death of your nations in the long term.

>>70914330
what's your pre-existing condition?

>>70914477

severe autism

>Living in a country without free healthcare

but why?

>>70909255
>said Michael Moore

lol

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>>70909255
lügenpresse

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>>70914549
>free

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>>70913800
Sue me

>>70914200
More like "polls". Don't shoot the messenger.

>>70914477
I have type 2 diabetes. I'd have to go into severe debt for my medication if I didn't have my insurance.

>>70914609
>American can't understand the concept of free

there's a joke in here somewhere

>>70914549
You don't need healthcare when you've got tipping

>>70914629
will you believe me if I tell you I was sure you'd say type 2 diabetes?

if you're serious, how well are you controlling it?

>>70914549
We do. It's called Medicare and Medicaid.

Why would it? If we look at election stats most Trump supporters were middle class or rich, while the poor voted for Hillary.

>>70914330

Dog bless

>>70914609
>he isn't poor having healthcare literally for free

lmao

>>70914673
>will you believe me if I tell you I was sure you'd say type 2 diabetes?
I'm not fat if that's what you're trying to say. It has gotten mildly worse over the years, but it's pretty steady. By the time I'm 60 I'll probably want to kill myself though.

>>70909255
The problem with American healthcare is that everything cost at least 2 time more than everywhere else in the world.

It does not matter what insurance mechanism you use, as long as things cost so much, it will not work.

>>70914727
>Why would it? If we look at election stats most Trump supporters were middle class or rich, while the poor voted for Hillary.
Excluding of course all the Hollywood celebrities, corporations, and banks that voted for Hillary?

>Be American
>Get mugged and shot one night
>Not again, that's the third time this month
>Ambulance picks me up after bystanders call the police
>Ambulance charges me $800 for the ride to the hospital
>Lost my card so they offer me an instalment plan with a 10% interest rate
>No choice but to accept
>Get to hospital
>Doctors won't treat me until I pay them $4000 for a consultation and some aspirin
>Have to kill a man to take his identity and his insurance

another day in glorious trumplandistan

I thought HUSSEIN Obama was gonna take all your guns, kill all Christians and declare himself dictator for life would have done all this for now. Well, I can't be wrong twice so I know Trump will fix everything.

Also I'm not racist, I just dislike HUSSEINs politics so I'm not biased against him from the start. Glad the chimp is out of the WHITE house.

>>70914775
sucks if you aren't even obese man. gl

>>70914787
Duh. The American health care system is massively overburdened with red tape and government regulations.

Aren't all European social services being massively drained by Ahmed and Nbu?

>>70914549
Free healthcare is not important at all. I really hate it when cunts like you think that free healthcare is on par with something like free education. Where as free education is essential to keep the social mobility high, free healthcare is just a dysfunctional drain. A private healthcare industry, that is subsidized and regulated by the government, works much better.

You make fun of Americans for not having free healthcare but I'm betting my balls that most people you know have health insurance despite having free healthcare.

>>70914795
Yeah.. Because there are only a few thousand of them. While over 60 million people voted for her. They weren't all those bloggers or actors that you hate.

You must be deluded if you think Obamacare is similar to our normal healthcare. Trust me, nothing of value is lost.

>>70909255
right. thats what poor uneducated patriots fall for. surprisingly, with all of their faults, those scum wont acknowledge it and will desperately try to find out someone else who can be their enemy to blow off their stresses and shun the reality. as a result they become more stupid delusional and racist. they cant get off that loop forever, and ofc they are gonna be slaves and work harder at least 12h a day.

>>70914826
It's time you add one: the medical secret.

Basically, it give every doctor a joker to use in front of a tribunal if you sue them.
It mean no one will ever sue a doctor.
It mean doctors will be busy healing people and not being in front f a court.
It mean doctors will not have to pay a million a year to a lawyer insurance.

It mean prices are on freefall.

>>70914886
>While over 60 million people voted for her

NYC, LA, and Chicago alone accounted for almost one quarter of that total desu.

>>70909255
Michael Moore? Like the hyperliberal who is the left's Bill o' reilly?

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>>70914795
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/09/white-voters-victory-donald-trump-exit-polls
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/11/08/us/politics/election-exit-polls.html?_r=0

>Broken down by income bracket, 52% of voters earning less than $50,000 a year – who make up 36% of the electorate – voted for Clinton, and 41% for Trump.
>But among the 64% of American voters who earn more than $50,000 a year, 49% chose Trump, and 47% Clinton.

>>70914928
Niggercare is a total travesty. It fixes nothing and serves one purpose only, to bleed the middle class white.

>>70914727
>most Trump supporters were middle class or rich

Not true at all

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>>70915002
>>70914727
>>70914617
>>70914270
>>70914095
And it's the SJW RIDF Finn right on cue.

>>70909255
This is why Trump said he'd keep certain parts of Obamacare. Republicans have been fear mongering to Trump's base about Obamacare for so long now that Trump couldn't be pro Obamacare or even neutral about it if he wanted to get elected. IF he keeps his campaign promises about Trumpcare, it'll look a lot like Obamacare. And this time conservatives will love it and liberals will hate it even though it'll be pretty similar.

>>70915019
>to bleed the middle class white.
Isn't that what you wanted? No more different looking people in your suburbs?

>>70915019
Serious question, I've met a lot of Americans and seen a lot of American posts and I've noticed, you all seem to think someone is out to get you or the group you belong to (i.e. white men, black women, etc). What the fuck is up with you guys? Why are you all so paranoid?

make like a banana and chill the fuck out for a minute

>>70915002
Now, count the people on welfare and the people with a job.

>>70915088
It's more accurate to say, Niggercare was set up in such a way that removing the entire thing is practically impossible.

>>70909437
Look at this retard, folks. He thinks the ACA was something you could be on like a public option. All the ACA did was say your insurance company can't fuck you in the ass with preexisting conditions nonsense and let's you stay on mommy's insurance until you're 26. That's every trumpette I've met.

>>70913761
This is a myth. When you really question people about their beliefs, only about 10% of Americans are young earth creationists. This meme that we don't believe in evolution comes from polls that allow people to give contradictory answers, like saying you believe in God guiding evolution and in natural selection.

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>>70915047
You can have a look here bud >>70915002

>>70915051
pic

>>70914604
Liberals =/= communists.

>>70915152
>only about 10% of Americans are young earth creationists
>only

>>70915120
Say hello to the future of politic. It's the final stage of clientelism.

The Clintons want the vote of niggers, spics and woman and promised to give them more of working people money
Trump was for the working men. He have been elected because it is no unusal to have someone standing for the working men in an election. The other is usually for the big corporations.

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>>70915157
Nice proof.

>>70915123
>Look mom! I said nigger! Aren't I edgy?

And no, the parts Trump mentioned keeping were being able to stay on your parents insurance and to not be denied for having a pre existing condition. Those parts could easily be repealed, those are the parts that are driving insurance costs up.

>>70914982
Lots of people live in cities, thanks for pointing that out.

>>70915138
>All the ACA did was say your insurance company can't fuck you in the ass with preexisting conditions nonsense and let's you stay on mommy's insurance until you're 26.
In short, let's have no personal responsibility because nanny government will always bail you out.

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>>70915292
Paranoid af.

You think it is impossible that there are more than one people who disagree with you? Besides, I haven't even said anything that is questionable: IT is a statistic fact that the American poor leaned Hillary.

>>70915138
To be fair, it also requires employers provide insurance for employees.

>>70915353
Forcing people to have insurance is the opposite of the government bailing people out, it's forcing people to cover the costs of the burden they place on society. Is the government forcing you to have insurance to drive a car the government bailing people out? It's the same principle. Poor people depending on the ER and then not paying their bills was driving healthcare costs up before Obamacare.

>>70915120
thats whats the alt-right is man. but dont worry they wont have any influence on their society. tho it will become partly sort of political fashion in mainstream and they will be louder day by day on the internet at least for the next 10 years.

>>70915292
That Finn is an infamous troll and leftist. His grandparents were probably communists who wanted Finland annexed as a Soviet republic.

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>be Drumpfkin
>support Trump even when he starts a war with Iran
>get drafted into the war
>get injured
>have to pay for everything yourself because you couldn't afford insurance and the government gutted their healthcare spending

>>70915460
Car insurance is a state issue, there's no requirement for that at the federal level.

>>70915579
>draft
>this day and age
>any year after 1972
...

>>70915460
>To be fair, it also requires employers provide insurance for employees.
Regardless of their ability to pay for it.
>it's forcing people to cover the costs of the burden they place on society
Regardless of their ability to pay for it.
>Poor people depending on the ER and then not paying their bills was driving healthcare costs up before Obamacare.
Wrong.

>>70914826

>>70915656
Does it really matter what level of government does it? All states require insurance or some states give you the option of paying a fee to the state if you don't have insurance. They do that because you need to cover your costs on society.

The Federal government cannot force you to buy something; the courts have already ruled on that.

>>70915719
No, poor people get subsidies to help them pay for it.

A lot of that "red tape" driving costs up is the laws that make it illegal to turn patients away if they can't pay.
>muh regulations
Singapore has one of the most regulated healthcare systems in the world and their healthcare is much cheaper than ours.

>>70915683
USA don't need a draft. If you don't sign up, you're unpatriotic leech who will be shunned by friends, family and president for life. Few will endure that.

Hope you don't get captured in war either, coward.

>>70915825
Singapore has fewer people than NYC.

>>70915683
If there's a serious enough war, the government can re instate it.

>>70914874

It's just as important as free education.

Also (and I know this varies per country), private healthcare here is somewhat relatively common because employers usually provide you with one as one of those emplyment bonus things for decent jobs and because anyway it isn't that expensive if you get ys one. ~50€/month provides you a pretty good one.

Which is good especially for dentristy stuff, because that isn't covered by the public healthcare. I don't have health problems and haven't really been often to the clinic, but when I did go, I went to the public one. It works pretty well here for typical primary and secondary assistance (i.e muh stomach hurts, muh fucked up twisted knee, muh pneumony, muh insulin cause diabetes and etc). Also surgery. For serious stuff (muh brain cancer and so on) I suppose it's probably better to go through a private specialist.

The argument I was trying to make, and I think I didn't make it quite clear, is that nationalized health care is not viable at the federal level, but any state is free to have at it, as they do in Massachusetts and Hawaii.

>>70915915
What does that have to do with anything? Somehow if we took the exact same laws as Singapore, it wouldn't work because of the population size? Where is your proof?

>>70909255
>Trump wins white votes in counties with large African American populations
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HO_L1gvJ00

Give your abo brain a shake. Whites who live near niggers (the recipients of Obongocare) overwhelmingly vote for Trump.

>>70915929
There would have to be some really major, WWII-scale conflict to need a draft and modern wars just aren't fought that way anymore.

>>70915964
A) economies of scale.
B) what if you're injured outside of your home state? Who picks up the tab?

>>70915973
It won't. One reason why Denmark can have a welfare state is a small, homogenous population with very low income stratification. This model is totally non-workable in the US at the national level. If it were, it would have been done a long time ago.

>>70915949
Here's the problem. Social welfare services end up not helping working people who pay into the system, they end up allowing nonproductive leeches to live off the system.

Did you know that in Sweden, at least 75% of welfare handouts go to, ahem, non-Swedes?

>>70916057
Russia has a large, non homogenous population and they still have universal healthcare.

People tried to implement universal healthcare several times in US history, it was blocked because rich people didn't want to pay taxes for it, not because of infeasibility. If you want to argue that you just don't want the rich to pay for it, go ahead, but that's not what you're doing.

>>70916116
Kind of. It's more accurate to say that health care is a finite resource and it's best to conserve it for actual medical emergencies, not some guy's gender reassignment surgery.

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>>70916140
I don't think you want to use a Russian hospital.

>>70916199
Proof you say? Norway has like 6 million people and a gigantic amount of oil and gas to pay for social services.

>>70916116
The idea with their welfare is to use it for positive social change. Obviously poor immigrants are going to need more of it. But if it helps these people raise their children better, their children will be less likely to be poor or otherwise a drain on society.

>>70916140
>it was blocked because rich people didn't want to pay taxes for it, not because of infeasibility. If you want to argue that you just don't want the rich to pay for it, go ahead, but that's not what you're doing.

And with that, the Tumblrite falls back on the Marxist class struggle he learned from his college professor.

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>>70916259
>Obviously poor immigrants are going to need more of it. But if it helps these people raise their children better, their children will be less likely to be poor or otherwise a drain on society
All possibility of rational discussion ended here.

>>70916205
Compared to other countries of similar development level without universal healthcare, Russia does ok.

>>70916277
I'm a centrist and I'm an entry level wage cuck, I'm not even a college student or graduate. I'm just poor and stand to benefit from a social safety net existing.

>>70915949
>It's just as important as free education.
What is your reasoning for this? Why do you think that having access to free healthcare is just as important as free education? Free education allows you to climb out of poverty, no matter what age or life situation.

Free healthcare in the other hand allows you to endure poverty more easily* (*a semi-private system would be easier to maintain most likely) A system where those whose earnings go below the taxation line get healthcare free and those who earn more get less taxes + insurance fees probably costs less.

>>70916328
Assuming you're white, I'm sorry, but the existence of a social safety net won't benefit you. That's not how it works.

>>70916389
The thing is that SJWs have no idea of how economics work or how to pay for stuff.

>>70916398
I am white. I do benefit from Obamacare. Sorry this doesn't align with your worldview.

>hundreds of thousands of working class Americans who can barely pay their bills now having to pay this ludicrous Obananacare "tax"

And you wonder why they all voted for Trump.

>>70916239
5.2 million people

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I watched some news story about a little redneck town (the birthplace of KFC) where more than 80% of the people voted for Trump, yet were relying on Obamacare for their medicines, but claimed the orange retard is going to make everything much much better.

Plebs will be plebs.

>>70916769
>Obamacare
>"giving" any medicine
...

>>70916389
Because a patrician with a condition and access to medical assistance > a pleb with a condition and no access to medical assistance, Pekka.

>>70916116

Well that's the point. All nationals should have access to medical assistance regardless of moneys and whatever. Just for being citizens. My, perhaps patriotic?, point of view.

As for foreigners, Brexit will come beautiful. Although there'll still be Pierre, Joao and Helga...

>>70914629
I knew Americans are voting against their interest because they believe in fairy tales but this hurts to read.

I honestly hope your idiocy doesn't kill you.

>>70917014
Did he ever say how he's going to do it?

I'm guessing it would not be something like this
https://mises.org/library/four-step-healthcare-solution
because he's not really ideological, but I can't imagine it being a single payer system either.

>>70915138
awww ur mommy mad

>>70916879
Correct me if I'm mistaken, but it allows people to pay much less for medicine or treatment, no?

>>70917001
>All nationals should have access to medical assistance regardless of moneys and whatever. Just for being citizens
You can gladly do that, but can't argue that the inevitable result isn't Khalid having 25 kids on welfare with his 15 wives.

>>70909561
>get natural selection'd
Shh..Americans don't believe in evolution :^)

>>70909255
Why didn't they just say the working class? Cause that's what it's implying also
>implying anyone got Obamacare
Only know of one person out off all 150 or so people I know had gotten it. And she got raped hard by the costs. "Affordable" my fucking ass. Maybe if you're a lazy piece of shit who doesn't have a job.

>>70917176
No. Not even close. It does nothing but force you to buy a private insurance plan under penalty of a ginormous penalty tax.

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>>70915138
>All the ACA did was say your insurance company can't fuck you in the ass with preexisting conditions nonsense and let's you stay on mommy's insurance until you're 26. That's every trumpette I've met.

And penalize you $700 per year if you're young and healthy and don't pay into the ponzi scheme.

The ACA, as it was written, was a wealth transfer from young Americans to old Americans. Insurance as a concept is bloody stupid when the rate of usage at old age is nearly 100% (find me an elderly person who spends more than 1 year without medical care or prescriptions).

This comes at the precise time that young people make 40% of what they ought to (compared to their parents at the same age), who are saddled with student loan debt, and who face an increasingly globalized economy in which you either have a white collar job or you live like slave-precariat. This was precisely the wrong time to do a wealth transfer between young to old and the Obama-era economists were fucking retarded to even try so.

So no, fuck off. You don't even understand an iota of the problem. If there exists an ACA or single payer healthcare bill equivalent, it must be paid for by the top 1-10% earners in the USA, not the up and coming youth who have no wealth to speak of. The ACA is/was taxing the wrong people to care for the elderly.

>>70917371
>The ACA, as it was written, was a wealth transfer from young Americans to old Americans
Wait, didn't they say the shit had death panels to forcibly euthanize the elderly?

>>70917176
It uses coercive force of the evil state to force you to pay your money for health insurance.
That means it makes you pay more than if you just did not have an insurance, stayed healthy and never went to the doctor.

After all, praying is free.

>>70917371
>If there exists an ACA or single payer healthcare bill equivalent, it must be paid for by the top 1-10% earners in the USA

That's nice, but no one with an IQ above room temperature believes in the "tax the rich=fix all of the world's problems" canard.

>>70917371
Young people need to stop being so short sighted. You're going to be old one day and start taking out more than you put into the insurance system. You'll be regretting getting rid of it once you're old if we haven't gotten single payer or something by then.

>>70917371
>The ACA, as it was written, was a wealth transfer from young Americans to old Americans

As was Social Security desu.

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>>70917579
>You'll be regretting getting rid of it once you're old if we haven't gotten single payer or something by then
And God willing, SPHC remains nothing more than a wet dream Michael Moore has at night because I don't think you want hospitals that look like this.

>>70917591
I've heard this claim before, but it's not really true. SS didn't transfer any wealth from the young to the old, it was nothing but a meager stipend given to old people so they don't wind up sleeping on the sidewalk.

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>>70917671
>there is only a completely free market and Cuba, nothing exists in between those two extremes

>>70917720
Man, check the numbers. People over 55 control like 70% of the wealth in this country. The current generation of old people are the wealthiest in American history.

>>70917776
The Swedish model (I assume that's what you mean) isn't what the Obama crowd was gunning for, sadly.

>>70917591
>>70917579

>"stop being short-sighted"
Oh no, we've looked at comparable programs.

Social security is going to run out of money by the year 2034. That's a mere 17 years away, a decade or two before I get to retire. Looking at that system, and how the elderly have raped it to death, I can say "no thanks."

And it's all thanks to ballooning medical costs. The Democrats just shot down a bill last month that would allow cheap generic drug imports from Canada. For decades the American pharmaceutical companies have opposed the globalization of the medicine industry and have lobbied for protectionism in the US market for drugs and therefore hospital care.

Meanwhile, steel workers, auto workers, basically every other fucking goddamn occupation has been raped to death by globalization. Some have survived and compete. That's exactly what the pharmaceutical industry needs to do.

I will not accept social security, the ACA, or any sort of single payer system until the pharmaceutical industry plays by the same rules as every other industry that got globalized. You want to protect your profits? Compete.

>>70917801
Social Security had little, if anything to do with that. It was due to demographic reasons mostly, being that there's a lot of baby boomers who came up in a time when the US dominated the world economy.

And the 1950s-60s had an epidemic of elder poverty, even though we did have SS by that time. That generation had had their savings nuked by the Depression and never recovered from it.

>>70917828
No, that's not what I mean. I don't even know that much about Sweden's healthcare system. I'm just saying, there's alternatives to being Cuba and being Somalia.

>>70917888
Social Security used to have a surplus before the government started borrowing from it to pay for wars. It wasn't a Democrat that started borrowing from Social Security.

>>70917888
>Social security is going to run out of money by the year 2034
>And it's all thanks to ballooning medical costs

There's a surplus of old people thanks to the baby boom. However, once most of them are dead, this will stop being an issue. It's no different than the doomsayers in the 1970s who said that we'd run out of oil in 20 years.

>>70914330
How is socialism gonna fix anything?

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>>70917445

Use your head, mong. The vast majority of young people do not need medical care. Most are healthy by default. They still pay the $100+/month that the ACA demands, just like the elderly.

But the elderly are almost guaranteed to have medical problems. It's old age. So in effect this is a wealth transfer from the young to the old.

In previous eras, medical care was sustained on the family unit level. A couple has children, and that couple ages; the young adult children are expected to cover their own parents' medical cost. This makes sense because sons and daughters generally have an affection toward their parents and want them to live as long as possible for emotional reasons. This also creates a healthy feedback loop in terms of the population replacement rate (target 2.1) because the 2 parents need to be supported somehow. By having 3 or 4 kids, they have a nice buffer against the future. The direct effect of this is that the country grows naturally and does not need to import foreigners to ruin their culture (which is what's going to happen to Germany).

Instead, we have a system where the youth are anonymously penalized and the elderly are anonymously beneficiaries. It's not one I want to deal with. The only person I want to support into old age is my mother, because I know I can yell at her and guilt trip her for smoking cigarettes so that she won't get lung cancer. I can't do that to the millions of old American fucks to whom I have no loyalty.

>>70914727
Trump supporters are poor farm niggers and Hillary supporters are poor city niggers.

>>70917445
>>70918052
He's right. They know that health care costs for old people are far higher, and forced euthanasia/denial of certain life saving treatments is inevitable, because nobody wants to pay for the expense of baby boomers' health care.

>>70917965
>There's a surplus of old people thanks to the baby boom. However, once most of them are dead, this will stop being an issue.

Do you think a baby boom is a unique event?

A baby drought would have a similar effect -- too few people to pay into too large a need. Both of them are equally punitive.

If demographic booms and busts are federal policy, it is natural that it is federally regulated for stability. This means marriage licenses and baby licenses. If you are not licensed, you do not get to breed.

If you don't support such a measure, you are encouraging an unstable system that will only result in suffering the moment Generation A has more/fewer kids than Generation B.

>>70918149
>>70918052
IDK about either of you, but I'd rather just be euthanized at 70 than be shitting myself in a diaper.

>>70918190

I'm not opposed to that, but I'd like to at least live a life worth living at some point

With the amount of debt and penalties being shoved up my ass right now I'm not enjoying the welfare state at all.

>>70918181
Do you know anything about the demographic transition? Yes, the baby boom was the last event of its kind. Birth rates have stabilized in all developed countries, and once the boomers die off, the population level will be relatively stable as well.

>>70918272
Correct. Japan, South Korea, and Germany also have a ridiculously high number of old people at the moment, but in 15 years most of that generation will have died and there will be far fewer old people afterwards.

It's a temporary social problem that will self-correct, regardless of the doomsayers who think society will collapse on itself.

>>70918052
The problem is your system leave millions of people not covered if they don't have kids/are infertile/their kids hate them/can't afford to pay for them. Look at China, their elderly are getting fucked because they have no universal healthcare and the birthrate is below the replacement level. The same would happen in the west without some sort of healthcare system.

>>70917901
>And the 1950s-60s had an epidemic of elder poverty, even though we did have SS by that time. That generation had had their savings nuked by the Depression and never recovered from it.

Unfortunately, we're likely to see another outbreak of elder poverty as Gen Xers retire in 20 years, because they're poor as dirt compared against the Silent Generation/boomers.

>>70918272
>Yes, the baby boom was the last event of its kind.

You're literally saying that we won't have any other causes of booms (or busts), which is quite silly knowing human nature.

A world war is going to happen again and we will have another baby boom. Or a period of economic malaise will cripple a generation so much that it will have fewer children because it can't support them (see the Great Depression, it would have been far worse had WW2 not happened).

>>70917959
>>70917888

Social security will never be sustainable as long as there's a demographic decline.
Social security and public healthcare always have been, are and will always be transfers from the healthy, young, strong towards the sick, old and weak, and that is the way it should be.

If you think you can just buy an insurance policy for all of this but you're lying to yourself, as ability of insurance company to deliver to its clients depends on the society and economy as a whole (just like honest transfer system depends if that wasn't clear enough).

Insurance gives you illusion that your future is in your hands alone and this illusion is false.

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>it's another "liberal media ignores the fact that Republican states tend to have a higher dependent (and liberal) black population" episode

Southern whites are hardline conservative because they know without that they would go under in taxes

>>70918426
>A world war is going to happen again and we will have another baby boom
Conflicts like that don't happen anymore; warfare since 1945 is all proxy wars between great powers rather than direct war.

Now there is a problem that a lot of idiot boomers didn't save adequate money for retirement because they assumed SS would bail them out, when it was never supposed to be one's entire retirement income.

>>70918358
China is a Third World country outside the coastal cities.

>>70918358
>Look at China, their elderly are getting fucked because they have no universal healthcare and the birthrate is below the replacement level.

Uh mate, it's definitely the second. They underwent nearly 4 decades (almost two generations) from 1979 to 2016 of strictly allowing urbanites 1 child and vaguely allowing rural Chinese about 2 (if they weren't caught).

This fact is further complicated by the reality that abortion of female fetuses has resulted, over the course of 4 decades, in a gender ratio of 115 boys : 100 girls. That means that there's 30-40 million excess men, men who will probably never marry, never have kids, and probably become angry internet neets. Or they'll try to emigrate out and leave to a country with a female-positive balance (most Western countries, actually).

This is all the result of demographic policy. Demographics is serious business, one that is positively dangerous when a country has a welfare state. If we didn't have such measures and laws emplaced I would be much less worried. Hell, eliminate borders if we don't have welfare. Come the fuck in, I don't care. Anonymous dependency is the problem, not a human's natural proclivity to have children.

>>70918546
Most people in China live in those cities because the government is going out of it's way to destroy small towns.

>>70918677
But the end result is similar, Westerners achieved their low birthrate naturally, China did it via policy. We still have the same problem. Millions of elderly Chinese have no income or healthcare because they have no children and no social safety net.

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Are you ready to say goodbye to American education?

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>>70909255
>americans and chicanos will get so desperate that they will illegally immigrate to mexico
>mfw they get shot

>>70919136
I wonder when Germany gets its first million of US student refugees (educatio is all free over here)

>>70914549
It's not a natural right so the federal government has no business in it.

>It's another liberals know what's best for poor people episode

>current state of sharts

>>70923853
It does per the General Welfare clause in the Constitution.

>>70914810

Great Reddit satire, m'friend. Upvoted.

>>70917371
>was a wealth transfer from young Americans to old Americans

That's literally the original point of social welfare in America. Old people got BTFO the hardest by the Great Depression so FDR came up with Social Security which is just what you described.

>>70914795
I hope you know that there isn't an overabundance of people that are celebrities or people running corporations/Banks

>>70915120
people like to blame others for their own problems and in America people are comfortable with subscribing to a particular set of ideals with little thought. so it's not that much of a leap to attribute those problems to people with different ideals.

>>70914330
OH SAY CAN YOU SHART