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Why did (do?) the Irish hate the British so much?

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Why did (do?) the Irish hate the British so much?
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>>70893325
Potatoes.

A few centuries worth of discrimination against Catholics.
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>>70893325
Invaded us, took our land, forbade us from practicing Catholicism, killed a lot of us, didn't let us vote, didn't let us go to school, forbade the use of our language, forbade us from playing our sports, cut down our forests, discriminated against us, let us starve to death and blocked any attempts by foreign powers to give us food, anglicized our brother Scotland, and still occupy part of our country.

That's about the gist of it.
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>>70894908
QQ
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>>70894908
>surrounded by fish
>succumb to starvation
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>>70894969
The English were still taking food. If you caught some fish then George comes in and takes it. If you refuse he burns down your cottage.
Reason the potato was so popular was because you could grow enough of it to feed you, your wife, your twelve children and whatever Nigey takes away on the two square feet of land you were allowed to own according to british law.
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>>70894969
paddy blown out water the of
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>>70895145
this
if you have a potato field and a cow, you literally have a balanced diet, provided you eat enough fiber to poo every now and again

nigel made the potato the national food of ireland, and when the potato famine hit, nigel went and bought/stole everything that wasn't potatoes, starving the irish
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Who knows, they are just angry little drunks.
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British are illegally occupying Ireland, it's actually very similar to the situation with Crimea but unfortunately the UK is our "ally" so we need to let them do what they want.
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>>70897327
Return the indians land.
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>>70897327
iktfb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29UMACdfyZw
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>>70896783
More like Irish landowners (and some Scots) were growing solely potatoes because they were a cash-crop, then when the famine hit they had nothing to eat because said landowners were still selling the potatoes.
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>>70897472
Oh dear.
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>>70893325
We're bros.
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>>70893325
>>70896640
>>70897124
>>70897406
>>70897472
>>70897651
>>70897656
https://youtu.be/FCnGD6xv5ik
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>>70897651
Potatoes were the only thing brits weren't taking, blight wiped out the potatoes and brits kept taking all the other food that was being grown
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>>70894908
>forbade us from practicing Catholicism
you had one job lads ;_; we could have been good together.

>>70898000
just a prank bro.
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>>70898092
Your fault for betraying the church and splitting your people in two just because your king's balls didn't work.
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>>70898000
Dirty lies you fucking taig
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>>70898202
the biggest redpill for me about the history between our countries is it's all catholisism. i know that's basic as fuck, but we only briefly touched on cromwell etc at school.
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>>70897472
>gee guys why do people laugh at muh heritage????
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>>70898263
Shame too. I reckon most Irish would be fine with being part of the UK if James II stayed in.
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>>70897472
Cringeworthy as fuck.
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>>70898259
no
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Yeah they hate us so much. They all come over here to the bigger island.
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>>70897472
Pretty laughable grasp of history he's got there.
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>>70898638
>25% of brits got GAEL'D
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>>70898882
More like Irish Women come here and get ANGLO'D
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>>70898882
>>70898961
I'm pretty sure it's a bit of both, silly. British-Irish people are bloody everywhere.
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>>70894908
> our brother Scotland
Fuck off nigger we never wanted liked you
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>>70899761
>we
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>this thread
why are anglos so evil
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>>70899809
WUZ
KELTZ
DA ANGLOS CUMN KIL US YO
MAH ANSESTERZ WUZ REAL CELTS HO SPOK GAYLICK NIGGA AN DEM SCATS WUZ US TO
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Besides treating them like subhumans for generations and shrugging off the famine (which happened while the Irish were still subjects to the British royalty, mind you), they're also still occupying Ireland's rightful clay
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>>70895145
>>70896640

God damnit... just fuck already. The sexual tension between your people is unbearable!!!
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>>70900097
We did. This is our child.
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WHITE ENVY

me in the middle btw
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>>70894908
>our brother scotland
Yes, we were oppressed to, we only turned Ulster into a rape baby province because England made us. Reparations pls.
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I wish we could have helped our irish bros a bit more. They were good catholics and we couldn't save them.
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>>70894908
>forbade us from practicing Catholicism
good. You can go back to your pagan roots.
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>>70901908
Fuck off LARPer.
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>>70901864
>mfw you had to beg Protestant Britain to save you from France
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>>70897124
Hello!! BriSHIT :)
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>>70893325
800 years
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>>70902592
>He really thinks Britain help us against France
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>>70894908
Legitt question. Is Ierland as shiria as UK? What do the Irish think of Ameticans. Unfair question because there are wide varieties of us, but you know, not the crazy ones.
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>>70894908
That's surprisingly very similar to what they did here.
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>>70903064
Honest question. Why are there so many Indians in the UK? Is there some sort of agreement you two have with universities, work visas and entrepreneurship that make it easier to gain access?
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>>70903135
There are so many Indians in every country on the world.
Also, No we don't have any deal like that, we pay full in British universities like we do in US univesities.
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>>70903176
Interesting. I thought that former colonies had a sort of special status and allowed them to travel back and forth. Maybe France...
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>>70903289
Nope, Somalian people can get British Visa way more easily than us Indians.

Only Portugal is the one that tries to forcefully give its citizenship to its former colonies.
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>>70893325
About every logical reason to hate a country
>Invaded
>Enslaved
>Genocided, the Brits fished Irish waters during potato famine and refused to help
>Civilians massacred
>Civilians raped
>Basically martial law
>Children killed
>Dehumanized
>All for 800 years
I want to like the British but then there's this shit and how they defend it.
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>>70898259
No it's true, your country is taught horrible propaganda as history and literally every other country views history differently than you.
British knowledge on Irish history is worse than American knowledge on 1812.
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>>70897327
>British are illegally occupying Ireland
>norn ire overwhelmingly voted to remain
fuck off lying plastic paddy
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>>70903402
Again, very similar to what they did here.

Way to go Anglos, you fucks aren't even honest to your white brothers and neighbors.

But off course, we were the uncivilized ones.
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The potato famine is a fucking meme

Potato is a drought resistant crop. 10000kg of potato needs only 100ml of water. The only problem is a lack of Vitamin C from low water potato.

That was the entire famine. A few paddies got Vitamin C deficiencies and because they are arrogant they refused to buy Strawberries from British traders because they thought Strawberries were an 'Oppressive Fruit of the Queen'. Even now Irish people refuse to eat Strawberries because of this.

There was no famine. Never. Irish soil has always been fertile, it is a lack of nutrition education that led to the issues in the country. Even now most Irish people don't get enough magnesium, iron, zinc of Vitamin K
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>>70903536
Britcousin isn't K potassium. How can you not get enough eating potatoes.
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>>70903402
1) they asked to join the UK
2) yeah landowners were dicks but that wasn't much different here, we just had more to go around
3) the ira killed more than its fair share of innocents, children in particular
4) norn ire wants to remain part of the uk, handing them over would be undemocratic
5) FUCK OFF YANK
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>>70903536
Dude, I trust the Irish on this. You reptiles are very good at creating famines.

You caused famines and manufactured droughts here too.
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>>70903578
>The only good guy in the story is the guy who likes you
And People wonder where did America got this shitty attitude from.
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>>70903486
>we were the uncivilized ones
> were
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>>70903578
>they asked to join the UK
Bullshit
>the ira killed more than its fair share of innocents, children in particular
During the Troubles the Brits killed a near equal amount, combined with Ulsters it exceeds the IRA
>undemocratic
>Invade and enslave a country
>Use Democracy as a modern excuse
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>>70903641
> In 1707, the Kingdom of England and the Kingdom of Scotland were united into a single kingdom: the Kingdom of Great Britain. Upon that union, each House of the Parliament of Ireland passed a congratulatory address to Queen Anne, praying that, "May God put it in your royal heart to add greater strength and lustre to your crown, by a still more comprehensive Union"
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>>70903636
>Turning a country into a shithole
>Asking why is it a shithole.
Just because we don't whine like niggers and blame you for our massive problems doesn't mean you aren't responsible for it.
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>>70903641
>you should ignore democracy now because you were undemocratic literally hundreds of years ago
fucking spastic
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>>70903402
>>Civilians raped
This is the one we got the least out of compared to most other conquered nations. Brits considered Irish people on the same level as dogs and wouldn't touch one except with a bayonet. It was also forbidden for them to marry us. I mean it probably still happened just not as much as a lot of other countries.

>>All for 800 years
It wasn't too bad for most of it. Although Ireland was legally owned by England most of the country remained under the de facto control of several Irish clans for a good while. It wasn't until Cromwell they started cracking down.

>>70903578
>1) they asked to join the UK
Low quality bait.

>>70903673
Irish people weren't allowed in the Irish parliament. Fuck off Oliver.
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>>70903687
>we made you dump corpses in the same water you brush your teeth
ah yes i suppose we make you shit in the street too
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>>70903673
>In 1707, the Kingdom of England and the Kingdom of Scotland were united into a single kingdom
Only because some of the money from colonies was being given to scotts, Now that you have lost the empire no wonder Scotts wants to be free again.

>>70903700
Oh please, you aren't even remotely democratic. What kind of democratic regime spies its citizens without their knowledge.
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>>70902864
Britain and Portugal did literally all of the work, it was you useless dagos that just a rolled around weeping in a puddle of your own piss.
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>>70903641
>American education
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>>70903735
>scots want to be free
they literally voted against it you fucking poo
>you aren't even remotely democratic
t. bastion of democracy; india
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america should give its land back to the natives

it doesn't matter that the current population want to remain in the usa, they should ignore that because it was undemocratic how they got that land to begin with
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>>70903797
>america should give its land back to the natives
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>>70903720
they were your representatives and regardless of you twist history they did in fact represent you

at the time, the union was better for you
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>>70903536
>they refused to buy Strawberries from British traders because they thought Strawberries were an 'Oppressive Fruit of the Queen'
Sounds like utter bullshit. When people are starving they tend not to care about what they're eating.

>Even now Irish people refuse to eat Strawberries because of this.
Literally made up by you right now. I've never heard of this and strawberries are a popular fruit that grow throughout the country.

Honestly I'll congratulate you on getting me to reply to your bullshit.
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>>70903834
japan should give its land back to the ainus

it doesn't matter that the current population want to remain in japan, they should ignore that because it was undemocratic how they got that land to begin with
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>>70903867
>japan should give its land back to the ainus
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>>70903895
now you know how we feel when plastic paddies cry about norn ire
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>>70903725
Well if colonization was supposed to be civilization as you say, then it is your fault because you sucked at spreading civilization. You are the one who didn't do his job well.

>>70903762
A 51% to 49% victory isn't a victory in a democracy because that's no majority. You would know that if you were even half democratic as you pretend to be.
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>>70903797
Britain of all people, you, just shut the fuck up
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>>70903834
>>70903895

Zitto anmale
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>>70903929
How can you get this upset over a post on an imageboard lmoa
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>>70903954
british people are so fuckin pompouss
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>>70903924
>it's your fault we're literal savages because you didn't civilise us!!!!
hm yes very good
>a victory isn't a victory
very good indeed
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>>70903908
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>>70903929
>cries that we should give back norn ire despite being undemocratic to do so
>gets upset when you suggest they do the same
ah yes the eternal yank
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>>70903965
Nah mate you've got it all wrong, it's just banter
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>>70903924
>51%
>not a majority
ummmm...
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>>70903967
We are savages because you destroyed out local industries, put heavy taxes on us, manufactured droughts and famines on our land, destroyed our education system, made us poor, our share in world GDP went from 20% to 0% thanks to you and even then you took our food (produced in India) to feed the rich the England.

So, yes you are responsible.

>>70904023
That's not a majority, when basically the same amount of people are against the government. A majority means having at least 75% of the votes.
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>>70904060
hm yes that's why you shit in the streets definitely

also
>this isn't a majority
and it's 55% btw
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TIL india was the pinnacle of human civilisation until the evil anglos came and forced them to shit in streets and throw corpses in the water and write creepy shite on facebook

thanks, india!
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>>70904116
>Making people poor, uneducated and hungry
>Why don't they poo in loo

55% isn't a majority either, you really need lessons in Mathematics.
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>>70904171
>a majority isn't a majority
really doing a think
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>>70894908
>forbade the use of our language

they did the same here in Wales

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_Not

A*glo genocide when
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>>70904181
Saying 55% is majority is saying like America is a white country.
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>>70904190
give over daviff

you've got your precious signposts
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All you faggots are just jealous and frustrated that you couldn't do the same to the English first.
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>>70904208
a majority is still a majority no matter how small you stupid paki
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>>70904215
I'd like more than that.
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>>70904241
Kek. Looks like someone needs to go to a better school to understand what a majority and minority means
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probably the same reason why Korean hate Japanese
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>>70904007
Maybe for you, but the ruthless British are serious
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How many potatoes does it take to kill an Irishman?


None
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>>70904300
A majority is by definition the largest percentile in a binary choice, which the Scottish referendum was.
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>>70903597
>You caused famines and manufactured droughts here too.

MUH FAMINE

It was WW2 you fucking mong - we were fighting against nazis and japs who probably would have forced your ancestors into slavery. If those Bengalis had been fed then British troops would have starved - it's history, get over it.
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Because they treated them like garbage. I'm an Anglophile, but even I'm ashamed of what Britain did in Ireland. However Irish nationalism makes me cringe a little, much like the native rights movement over here.
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As an Irishman living in the UK, I really couldn't give much of a shit about the past. If you go back far enough, practically everyone's ancestors were oppressed in one way or another. Shit that happened 100+ years ago doesn't effect me now, and Brits don't discriminate against me today so I really don't care. I cringe more at the Irish nationalists and Irish diaspora who keep going on about 'muh oppression' every five minutes 2bh.
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>>70905216
>we were fighting against nazis and japs who probably would have forced your ancestors into slavery.
We fought both the world wars with you idiot, and we had to create an Indian legion and shake hand with hitler to get rid of you.
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>>70905216
India contributed millions of troops in both the world wars to save your shitty country.
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>At a time when Ireland was enduring the terrible loss of a million dead and the mass exodus of a million more during the Great Hunger, Ottoman Sultan, Khaleefah Abdul-Majid I, declared his intention to send £10,000 to aid Ireland's farmers. However, Queen Victoria intervened and requested that the Sultan send only £1,000, because she had sent only £2,000 herself.


>So the Sultan sent only the £1,000, but he also secretly sent five ships full of food. The English courts attempted to block the ships.


literally JUST fuck my shit up fampai
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>>70905416
Surely you do realize the Political realities of the time though? All of the colonies were neglected. Malaya and African ones were also suffering from food shortages, due to the British spending all their money manufacturing weaponry and buying American ones.

I mean there was rationing in New Zealand and Australia too, and it was incredibly harsh in Britain as well. The whole British Cuisine meme came about due to WW2 food shortages
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>>70905378
>>70905416

>We fought both the world wars with you idiot

Yes, but you made up an incredibly small amount of the total troops in the empire - You had about the same amount as CANAUSNZL despite having like 20x more people. Those Indian troops were mainly fighting in Burma as well, and were still fed. The thing is Pajeet, you have to realise that troops in Europe were worth saving more than some Bengali peasants. We were directly fighting against the Nazis and actually needed the food. You do realise that Britain itself had famines in WW1 as well, right? People were literally starving to death in the street because they couldn't get food due to German U-boats. It's not as if Britain architected the famine in order to kill off as many Indians as possible.
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I think a lot of Irish complaining is way overblown, for the majority of history what happened to them was standard. Cromwell for example just sacked a few towns, he was no where near the monster most Irish and muh heritages like to pretend he was
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>>70903597
Not our fault that Japan invaded - If they hadn't occupied Burma then there would have been enough food for the Bengalis
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>>70894908
Damn, how do you still suck them off even after all that?
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>>70905847
>>70905487
>>70905653
WORLD WAR 1
>1/6th of all the British forces in the war were Indians
>54000 lost their lives
>65000 were wounded
>4000 were missing
>Indian taxpayers paid 100 million pounds in that time money
>Provided 70 million rounds of ammunition
>Provided 600,000 rifles and machine guns
>Provided 42 million garments for the Allied forces, made and stitched in India
>Provided 1.3 million troops to participate in the war.
>Provided 170,000 animals
>170 million tonnes of supplies
India's population in world war 1 - 280 million

WORD WAR 2
>Provided 2.5 million troops in the war
>Out of Britain's total war debt of 3 billion pounds in that time money, 1.25 billion pounds were owed to India and was never paid.
India's population in World War 2 - 320 million.
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>>70905910
(Not who you're responding to) But pretty much every country in the empire was involved in the war effort whether they liked it or not. You do realise people in the UK do appreciate India's contribution to the war effort? We have memorials here in my town dedicated to Raj Troops and their contributions and honour them every year on the 11th of November.
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>>70903836
a group of landlords in parliament only because the people the Irish people would've wanted couldn't actually be elected legally isn't representative of anything you silly nigger
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>>70902929
Any shamrockfags can answer this?
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>>70905341
>Shit that happened 100+ years ago doesn't effect me now
you're real fucken thick if you believe this
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>>70906180
Like I said, I'm treated perfectly fine by English people and I'm not discriminated against at all. Please tell me how I've been so deeply affected?
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>>70902929
>>70906167
Did you have a stroke while typing it? the "UK" isnt sharia if you meant that.
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>>70906167
diaspora are good goys who sent us a good bit of money for a large part of our history and funded the entire Nationalist movement for quite some time, so the US is the best Anglo/mutt nation imo
Anglo propaganda on 4chan about us hating "plastic paddies" is a big lie, I don't mind people liking the culture really, just not a big fan of the 'more Irish than the Irish themselves' sort of ones

>Is Ierland as shiria as UK?
fuck no, and never will be due to our relative irrelevance and how shitty it is here - they all go to England
there was an article I remember reading about how depressed refugees were in Scotland which is pretty similar to here because it was a place where "people wait to die"
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>>70906225
well you speak English for one, you're in England because it conquered your and other people's countries and became a huge economy today because of that

are you denying the impact of history?
it's everything
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>>70905910
Anon I know it doesn't mean much coming from me, but I'm sorry that India's contribution is overlooked. There's definitely an element of racism lost in the myth that "Britain Stood Alone".

One of our family friends is a half nigerian man who grew up in the UK, and he told us all about how his father had worked for the RAF during WW2. Despite all he did, he was neglected by the British government - he cleaned dustbins in London after he moved to Britain when the war ended, barely making ends meet.
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>>70906274
>Not annoyed by ""Irish"" Yanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29UMACdfyZw
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>>70906326
Neither you or I would be alive right now if that didn't happen. So I'm actually pretty glad history went that way.
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>>70906344
I'm not, japs don't care about weebs either afaik
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>>70906090
Its nice to know that

>>70906342
Thanks for understanding mate.
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>>70906388
neither you or I would be alive right now if our da's made the decision to have a pre-fuck wank you silly bastard
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>>70906421
Exactly. It's the way everything happened and I'm glad it did. Ireland speaks English, alright, doesn't make much of a difference to me either way.
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>>70906487
west brit

stay there
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>>70906342
My grandfather was in the army from 1936-1948 and was discharged and treated like shit despite fighting in WW2 - He also lived like shit in a council estate in Chiswick (It's nice now but back then it was a shit hole) and could only do very low wage labour jobs after the war. So it's not just "coloured" people who faced that, because many native Brits did as well. Just so you know
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>>70894908
>the fucked part is, Ireland was the colony in the british empire that had it easiest compared to arabs,indians,blacks,maoris,hawaiians,natives and aboriginies
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The british are terrorists


MORE POWER TO IRA!
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>>70903725
>shit in the street too
you do realize thanx to the brits throwing garbage around Mumbai would still be a chain of 7 islands
source trashopolis
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>>70906643
>>70906585
>facebook maymays
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>>70906633
>All these pro-IRA posts

wew
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>>70904190
Literally done by Welsh teachers arselick.
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>>70906090
>We have memorials here in my town dedicated to Raj Troops
pfft fuck that, people rather have the money
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>>70906667
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>>70906633
>sp are their sons
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>>70906776
Fuck Bradleys look cool as shit
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>>70893325
irl we dont we get on perfectly fine, people love acting like we hate each other and would kill on sight e.g. here >>70894908
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>>70900097
we are the same people
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>>70903441
wrong FOY
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>>70903289
it used to be like that before the EU, hopefully will be again
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>>70903176
pretty sure we have many more Indians than the rest of europe combined
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>>70906932

'no'
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>>70907052
just checked, we have more than twice as many as the rest of the top 10 combined
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>>70907205
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>>70904239
this
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>>70902929
Many think you're exotic, rich and cultured. Others think you're all a bunch of gun-nut hicks.
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>>70902929

Most Irish hate Americans in my experience.
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>>70907205
Same is true for pakistanis.
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>>70902929
Some of you are fun, but the majority become irritating and come off as stupid

t. Irishman
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>>70907559
>>70907532
>>70907598
What's the general Irish opinion on Canadians? Is there one?
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>>70904171
>55% isn't a majority
Is the empire behind India's education system too?
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>>70907635
A lot of Irish have lived in Canada or know people who've lived in Canada and I think they like them for the most part.

I've lived in Alberta and fucking hated most of the people there.
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>>70906633
Maith an fear
>>70907635
Humble Yanks with better manners. We would not appreciate the pro-commonwealth ones though, so keep that to yourself
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>>70907635
You exist.
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>>70907655
Thar's a normal response, I also hate Albertans, everyone does tbqh
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>>70907052
>>70907205
There are no easy visa laws for Indians, Polish people have easy visa laws than Indians and we pay full price for our visas.

We just prefer UK in Europe because you speak English and we don't have to point out where India is on the world map.
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>>70907205
>1.5 million
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>>70907635
people in general like leafs so with us even more so
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>>70907713
yea it'll probably change a bit now we've left the EU
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>>70899983
Yeah, that's the sad history in meme form alright.
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Their relationships seem better than the relationship between Japan and Korea.

I think the main reason for this is that they can speak the same language and discussions in English can be seen by many people.
Agitation is more easy and foolish in our case.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uElIu0i-NYw

i learned irish history by that an irish ma'am
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>>70908124
>7 minutes in

Can't bare to listen to this annoying cunt anymore
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>>70908225
it's very shameful that most irish youngsters don't care gaelic and they want to live in london:\
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>>70908307
>they want to live in london
Yeah, let's invent stories.
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>>70908346
i just saw some bbc news about that before ireland is a small country with a small job market so they want to get better paid jobs in london
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>>70908307
Languages evolve and are lost all the time. English 500 years ago is almost unrecognisable compared to English today, old English before Norman invasions is completely unrecognisable. The woman in that video just wants to be the victim . Ireland still has a national identity and it's own culture, but shares the same language.
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>>70908307
Most people would probably move to London if they had the chance - it's practically the most important city in the world
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>>70908472
>English 500 years ago is almost unrecognisable compared to English today,
wrong

>Ireland still has a national identity and it's own culture, but shares the same language.
wrong

tír gan teanga, tír gan anam
Ireland is dead without a revival of the language or the process of it, anything but Gaelic culture is a shitty copy of English and American ways
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>>70905905
underrated
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>>70908597
My point about English being unrecognisable before the Norman invasion is still valid though, Isn't it Potato nigger?
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>>70908764
still recognizable insofar as it's a Germanic language, the basis of your entire point is pure retardation though and you should kill yourself
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>>70908803
Still not the original language of England though, is it? So the point still stands you stupid mick
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>>70908864
of course it is you mongo, it's just developed over time but it's still of the Germanic branch of Indo-Euro languages, the language wasn't that effected it was just riddled with borrowed words afaik, certainly not comparable to a complete shift from one branch to the next
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>>70908914
Who cares if it's still part of a "branch" of Germanic languages, the origional English language is so unrecognisable at this stage that It might as well be a celtic language

please tell me how much of this you can understand

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVyXDYp60BE
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>>70908597
le himeacht ama An Náisiún fhabhraíonn, teanga agus céannacht a rugadh de streachailt agus comhionannas.
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>>70909142
>Who cares if it's still part of a "branch" of Germanic languages,
linguists I'd imagine

>>70909161
evolve to the extent that you accept the language of the conqueror rather than trying to make the language that actually connects you to your ancestors widespread when you have the opportunity to do so
it is soulless and absolutely devoid of anything to inspire a love for one's Nation over

and oh you got me, the apparent Irish Nationalist that doesn't speak Irish, what a shock that must be and real hypocritical
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>>70903836
both false desu

the union saw the decline of ireland and dublin in particular
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>>70909304
Out of curiosity, what socio-economic group would you fall into?
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>>70909408
working probably but class distinctions tend to be pretty fluid in first world countries like that
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>>70907205
POO
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>>70909304
I would be with you to a certain extent - but due to globalisation your ideas of bringing back the language wouldn't work - reminder that Ireland's national party wants to destroy Ireland's current culture by importing shit skins. Everyone in europe is fucked
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>>70909762
they're not our nationalist party, they're just A nationalist party that has a monopoly/cult following in the 6 counties that they rely on
the majority of their constituency was against letting in rapefugees but they're still for it I think, it's crazy

in the Republic it's just a battleground between left or right of center parties with nobody really having any actual ideals, the language is going to die within this century as will the Irish and every other Nation, and I'm inclined further towards not caring very much by the day, inshallah
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>>70909666
weeew
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>>70893325
IRL there isnt any hate
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>>70894908
this seems horrible even compared to our acts towards korea
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>>70903064
It's what they did everywhere. We were basically the test dummy for all their imperialist gambits.

We were the first colony and the last ;_;
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they don't, Irish and Brits have cross-bred to the point that one group hating the other makes no sense at all
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The nine years war was so close to an Irish victory it's crazy, it's the closest the Irish have been to an independent entity since the establishment of the free state

Hugh O'Neil and the various chieftains of ulaidh used guerrilla tactics very effectively. The war is only really remembered for the battle of kinsale but there were countless battles similar in size where the Irish demolished the English. The English losses were out of proportion to the Irish losses, the Irish acted as an effective unit.

The war was so damaging to the English that if it lasted another year the British exchequer would have went bankrupt and Britain itself would be in turmoil.

Hell, even the battle of kinsale could have been won if communication was effective and the Spanish forces actually engaged the English. The only way the English could win the war was by bribing traitorous and corrupt Irish chieftains and by causing purposeful famines in Ulster by attacking civilian settlements (typical move of the English)

After the war the English so badly wanted to avoid another insurrection in Ireland that they granted the rebellious chieftains their land back, but instead oneill left with his allies in the flight of the earls to try and gain support for Irish independence in Spain.

It must be the most overlooked period of Irish history, one of the most significant certainly. If O'Neil succeeded then many historians theorise an Irish nation with the oneills at the head of the monarchy may have been created.
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>>70894908
>our brother scotland
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>>70912200
Nah, he's just exaggerating and lying. We treated them like we treat Scotland and Wales: as members of the same nation.
Irish people are just self-entitled.
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>>70895145
Got any sources - oh yeah, you just made that up from your arse.

Jesus Christ, you Irish are worse than the goddamn jews.
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>>70917355
Absolutely not you fucking dickhead. Do you even know what the penal laws are?

>>70917436
It's not. It was against beaureucratic laws for one to fish from the ocean, same to hunt in a Forrest.

English fucking scum hope you burn in hell.
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>all this salt literally over fucking PO-TAY-TOES
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>>70917525
at the end of the day you will pay the price if you're a fussy eater
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>>70900068
>McBruiser
Could be a nigger? No one knows.
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>>70903064
Except it's not, and we didn't even do that in Ireland.
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>>70917705
Yes you did, scum. We're not Anglo, we're not Saxon, we're not English. Irish people are a desperate cultural identity and we look down on disgusting greasy beady eye Anglo scum like you. Fuck off and die.
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>>70917796
>salted potatoes
just accept you are British
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>All these ignorant and retarded foreigners ITT
This is why we tell you to fuck off on here and irl.

>>70917508
You victimise too much. The same shit happened in England to the lower-classes. You've got to remember that Victorian England was more classist than racist (despite Irish people being the same race as most Brits).

Also, we let you vote, otherwise you wouldn't have had your free state - fucking mug.

And, we did let you use your language, but we didn't allow it to be used in an official manner for efficiency.
That, and we did let you go to school, but you had to pay for it - like everyone else.

I'm can't believe I'm arguing against such a disgusting liar, but oh well, I guess that's what gypsies are at the end of the day: liars.
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>>70917796
>We're not Anglo and we're not saxon
No, you're Germano-Celtic, like us.
Need I remind you about the Vikings - and Dublin, which was built by them?
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>>70917918

>Germano

maybe D4 you mong
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>>70893325
Broadly speaking, the Irish don't really, not anymore.
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>>70917883
>we let you vote, otherwise you wouldn't have had your free state - fucking mug.

Bar from membership in either the Parliament of Ireland or the Parliament of England from 1652; rescinded 1662–1691; renewed 1691–1829, applying to the successive parliaments of England (to 1707), Great Britain (1707 to 1800), and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland (1800 to 1829).

We earned the right to a nation state through war you little wankstain

>And, we did let you use your language

No, you didn't. The famine was an intentional genocide of Gaelic speaking peoples and speaking Irish publicly was often punished by death. We don't care for your rule nor convenience, Irish language is our native tongue. Fuck off English scum.


>we did let you go to school, but you had to pay for it - like everyone else.

'No person of the popish religion shall publicly or in private houses teach school, or instruct youth in learning within this realm' upon pain of twenty pounds fine and three months in prison for every such offence.


Fuckkng dirty English scum you need kneecapped, perfidious Anglo liar
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>>70906585
russians are not white as well as hispanics its not a meme.
If russkies are white then turks and greeks are too.
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>>70917918
Irish is Celtic, minor Germanic genetic influence.
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>>70918209
>>70918276
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>>70918209
Wrong, you aren't Irish and you don't live here.
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why do Irish people choose to speak English? after almost 100 years of independence the vast majority of them still can't form a sentence in Irish tribespeak. Why is that?
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>>70918557
because the blueshirts never came to power and authoritarian actions weren't taken in the language revival department as the English used to install their tongue
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>>70918557
Shut the fuck up you stupid cunt. I've seen you posting anti Irish threads before about our language, cease with your fucking autism. You know nothing about Ireland. I can speak Irish fine because I learned it for 12 years. Dickhead. The reason the Irish language has become less spoken is because of the famine which wiped out the majority of the native population and left the survivors to flee.

Amadán.
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>>70894908
Ahh fuck that is one a tough ride.
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>>70918661
It's just intriguing to me that a people that hate the Brits so much, and consider themselves culturally distinct (even though they clearly aren't), choose to continue speaking English and can't be bothered to learn Irish. Is it just laziness? or stupidity?
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>>70918661
Lmao, he learnt a language that barely anyone else speaks

Should have learnt French or Spanish mate
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>>70918784
t.haitian
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>>70905910
Thats how you earned independence though
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>>70918784
Did you hear what I said? The majority of people have learnt and can speak atleast basic Irish. Ireland is a distinct cultural entity from the UK until I see you prove otherwise. Choke to death on a Somalian cock you fucking stupid effeminate litte Swedish wankstain.
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>>70918813
Aye good lad fukap
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>>70918926
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>>70918870
depends on what you mean by basic tbf, pretending it's grand is bad for the language
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>>70918870
so they know basic Irish, then why do they *CHOOSE* to speak English? If so many Irish people can speak this dead language, why don't they use it? Instead of speaking the language of a people that they """"hate"""".
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>>70906585
>netherladns not in it
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>>70906762
sir, i think there's a protsetants cross on your wall
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>>70919001
Because as previously stated its inefficient due to the economic and social circumstances British imperialism has put us in. such a thing would be possible with government support, but we have a pathetic government. Now fuck off Haitian cunt.
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>>70919128
Because nobody speaks it and nobody cares to because Ireland is a rural province of Britain which is completely irrelevant on the world stage.

All it does is ruin a perfectly aesthetic isle with border changes. Although being catholic i can see how it is a problem to have state religion as anglicanism,
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>this thread
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Everyone here is saltier than my spuds
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>>70919206
Nah, it's our language. I love and respect it, as does the majority of our population. You may not like it but it's true. The fact that you applied the term, "aesthetic" to justify the conquest of Ireland is proof you're a childish little vapourware babby memelord. Fuck off.
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>>70919206
anglicanism is fucking trash and I'm glad the next monarch is so much of a cuck that he'll make a joke of that shite

the only acceptable prods are presbs
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>>70919291
I use aesthetic because most of Ireland outside of about 5 ports has literally no other use you inbred runt
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>>70919206
this
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>>70919291
Cry some more, faggot
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>>70907559
It's because of the plastic paddy cancer, isn't it.
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>>70919367
Yes, yes it is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29UMACdfyZw
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>>70919314
Im a catholic so i dont particularly care for it, but its much better than continental or American protestantism
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>>70907781
You don't have to actually live next to them.
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>>70919358
why would he cry over your wet dream faggot fantasies you limp wrist little queer

dream of empire while you get colonized yourself
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>>70919352
Ah got me there! 5 ports? Fuck me just take us over mate! Go ahead! Build plenty of ports! Stupid micks with only FIVE (5) ports!

>runt
>>>/brit/

>>70919358
Ugly borders, very unaesthetic would not listen to synth wave with le brah xDDD
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Why are the Irish so prone to aggression?
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>>70919414
You too, potato nigger. We'll fall quicker but at least we achieved something in history. Ireland will forever be known as Britain's bitch
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>>70919446
British imperialism is to blame
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>>70919395
Errrrghhh...
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>>70919580
Nah, 800 years of solid resistance with the British stooping low enough to intentionally genocide Irish people sounds more accurate. Btw, why do you keep posting Sinn Fein rallies? Ireland is 1% Muslim and Sinn Fein is the fourth most popular party down south.

>>70919582
You're fucking bipolar.
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>>70919582
That was over a century ago. It's like justifying nigger behavior because their ancestors picked cotton.
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>>70919424
Incidentally one of my ancestors was one of Strongbow's knights who helped conquer Ireland, my extended family still hold some of it- land is still reasonably valuable, at least for individuals.

At the time, when much of Europe was agricultural and pastoral, it indeed was very valuable. But nowadays on the world stage post-industrial revolution and increases in shipping and trade, Ireland in of itself is not very valuable and so not very relevant as it is still mostly that same agricultural and pastoral land it was in the middle ages, outside of those quite valuable ports which contain shipyards.

In comparison most other countries have developed high-tech industries and high end service industries such as banking, or at least offer valuable raw resources.
Ireland meanwhile still offers potatoes, tax havens too for a while until the EU asserts its control over its new colony.

Incidentally my extended family still hold those lands, we even have several buildings streets and bridges named after us, and some are considered Irish heroes. Funny isnt it?
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>>70919580
>y-you too
I read that in a very passive sausage jockey Englishman's tone of voice

you've ALREADY fallen, your capital has a fucking Sultan ruling over it
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>>70919707
our economy isn't even 10% agriculture based afaik, there's a chart somewhere
you're full of shite fool

> and some are considered Irish heroes.
kek name a few then
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>>70919659
"Muh genocide"

Get over it you weak faggot
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>>70919291
> The fact that you applied the term, "aesthetic" to justify the conquest of Ireland is proof you're a childish little vapourware babby memelord

he says on a vietnamese birdwatching website
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>>70919659
>lightly banter some micks
>they sperg out and insult sweden
>I'm not even swedish
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>>70919688
No. The conflict only ended in the late 90s really. The Protestant inhabitants of NI are just as prone to aggression. It's called protecting and preserving your culture, people and homeland from an oppressive alien force.
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Fuck micks. If your ancestors weren't on the Mayflower you have to go back.
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>>70919794
you've been called out as a Haitian already I believe
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>you've ALREADY fallen, your capital has a fucking Sultan ruling over it
Hehehe
>>70919794
>I'm not even swedish
How fucking surprising
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>>70919764
You might call us weak, but we might call you Ulster scotch weak for relying on Britain. The people of Britain have no true concern for you and you're a huge inconvenience to them. Whenever we take control of NI again, you will be genocided or forced to flee under an Irish Catholic government. You will be the weak one.
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>>70919800
No it's called being niggers. Micks always lash out over any perceived slight it's fucking embarrassing.
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>>70919707
Ireland has a per capita GDP almost $10,000 higher than Britain's.
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>>70919801
is that one of the ancestors on the English-Scottish-French-Estonian-Polish side of the family or the English-Swiss-Mexican-Nigerian side
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>>70919763
Earl Patrick Sarsfield
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>>70919838
"groit craic"

>>70919848
i am as swedish as you are irish
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>>70919891
No it's not you fucking idiot. You just take what you read here and try to apply it to real life because you're that out of touch, you are quite literally that autistic. Provide me with an example.
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>>70919861
>you will be genocided or forced to flee under an Irish Catholic government.
>He really believes this

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>70919926
>jacobite
eh, alright I suppose, good few power gaps away from an "Irish Hero" like Red Hugh or Eoghan Roe
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>>70919861
fuck off lad they're not meant to know that
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>>70918402
Well, you're not even proper celts.
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>>70919975
What happened to the Protestants living in the free state? Fled north because the IRA and Sinn Fein actively rooted them out. Not only that, but can you tell me what happened to those Protestants living in Catholic Irish south Armagh during the troubles? They too were rooted out. We don't want you. You spastics have demonised yourselves in every possible aspect, no sympathy whatsoever. When NI is back in our hands (by the end of this century) we will kill you and your family, burn down your orange lodges and spit on your dirty fleg.
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>>70919947
>Provide me with an example

>>70919861
>Whenever we take control of NI again, you will be genocided or forced to flee under an Irish Catholic government.

Niggers easily prone to aggression. We should have never opened our ports to you potato munchers. Irish Americans are responsible for over 40% of white crime. That's only because we had to change the definition of white when you got too uppity.
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>lightly banter an irishman
>he threatens to invade your country and genocide you
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>>70920055
>He REALLY thinks this is going to happen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJS9mEyIORA

AAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>70920081
You are forgetting the huge fact that the Irish fought in the civil war fresh off the boat and pretty much built NEW ENGLAND
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>>70920055
YÓÚ'RÉ RÚÍNÍNG ÉVÉRYTHÍNG
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>>70920081
>Irish Americans are responsible for over 40% of white crime. That's only because we had to change the definition of white when you got too uppity.

Provide an actual source for that. The British have done much, much worse to us. They can fuck off if they truly expect any sympathy. Irish Americans contributed more to your nation than any other group except the Germans and English.
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>>70920055
We're not living in the 1920s anymore you stupid mick, you can't just get away with genocide like you could back then - If you really think that type of shit is going to happen in a western country then you're delusional. Keep creating revenge fantasies though :)
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>>70920138
Cannon fodder.

They worked on projects organized and financed by Anglo businessmen. No better than chink railroad workers.
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>>70920211
it'll be low key don't worry

I was thinking mass sterilization and increased fluoride in the water systems
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>>70920212
Irish have been in America since the beginning and were represented at all classes of society.
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>>70920167
They were the cotton pickers of the late 19th and early 20th centuries.
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>>70920280
>Irish have been in America since the beginning

I don't recall any micks on the Mayflower.
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>>70920211
If you don't believe me that's why I mentioned bandit country in the 80s.

>>70920212
The most successful businessmen in American history are Irish, see JP Morgan. This notion that the Irish are all working class mongs comes from 17th century Victorian propaganda. Some of the greatest American generals, economists, scientists and artists have been Irish American.
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Irish breakfast and English breakfast are literally the same. Same with pubs, houses style and... both speak same language.
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Only thing that disgusts me more than Irish people are Scottish people who pretend to be Irish
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>>70920055
You sir have big anger issue.
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>>70919291
>the conquest
it's not a fucking conquest they want to be part of Britain stop being a stupid mick
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>>70920398
Could say the same about you and Portugal, just doesn't make it correct. If the Irish people actually felt a cultural affinity toward the UK then maybe, but they don't.
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Only thing that disgusts me more than Irish people are Amerifat people who pretend to be Irish
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>>70920438
the only true scots™ are gaels, this is indisputable
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>>70920452
Yes it was. Prove me wrong, you cannot.


>>70920490
Sad to hear. The Spanish always had a catholic brotherhood with us and fought many wars alongside us.
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>>70920461

We don't speak same language, we have different traditional music, cuisine... and they have moustaches.
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>>70920526
im talking about now
for now the north wants to be part of Britain, let them be, maybe they'll rejoin Ireland one day, maybe you'll rejoin us :^) who knows.
Either way it's their decision.
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>>70919896
Thats because we have to prop up The rest of ireland, and the shitholes that are Wales and Scotland.
The map is from 2013 so its somewhat outdated but i think the point stands.

Also same reason little countries have larger GDPs. mighty Luxembourg and Liechenstein for example (aside from also being a tax haven-for now)

http://blogs.ft.com/ftdata/2015/05/13/ireland-is-the-wealthiest-economy-in-europe-or-not/

>The “distortion” of the Irish data led economic analysts- including ESRI- and Irish policy makers to prefer using GNP figures rather than GDP. International bodies- including Eurostat and the OECD use GDP figures but the OECD observer pointed out that Ireland GDP per head might not “accurately reflects Ireland’s actual wealth”

>>70919991
As i said, i am a catholic. Besides they married into such lines-his wife was from the O'rore family, and they claimed to be descended from Conall Cernach, and her uncle was the King of Laois.
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>>70920636
Doubt we'll ever rejoin you, really doubt it. Birth rates and demographics are showing a sharp population shift towards Catholicism, must be all the poles and lithos.
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>>70917883
>We let you have all these things, why aren't you grateful for letting us invade you?
>>70917436
Irish (Protestant) Landowners during that time took a majority income of the potato crop while only leaving the bare minimum to the Irish Laborers, which kept them from the verge of outright starving.
So for those who lived in areas such as the North of Tipperary, East of Offaly, Kildare, etc etc would literally have to walk miles in order to even reach a large enough body of water that may or may not even have any marine life existing there.
As well, the Irish were very picky about eating fish. This mainly came from the idea that Fish is only to be eaten on Friday, which mainly stemmed from Catholic tradition.
Keep in mind, if they even made that trek, they'd have starved on their way.
For those who did live on the coasts of the Island, they mainly immigrated, as nothing was to be gained from living there. They either moved to England, Canada or America. For every 1 person who did die during the famine, 1 person also immigrated. So the idea that the Irish were "dumb" or "too simple" to take use of any advantage given is nothing but ironic coming from anyone who thinks they know any shred of knowledge of Irish History.
The British Government DID respond to this, however. Quote Unquote. While the more Aristocratic, Republic Government bodies agreed that letting the Irish starve would benefit the British Empire as more land would be open for British living space, a man by the name of Sir Robert Peel set up a secret trade with Americans in order to obtain corn and give it to the starving Irish. This proved difficult, however, as the British Government caught on, and raised corn tax, which were conveniently placed in around the time of the famine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corn_Laws
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Peel
http://www.wesleyjohnston.com/users/ireland/past/famine/emigration.html
Either it was a genocide, or bad luck. Who cares, either way.
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>>70920302
That's because the goddamned yankees destroyed the Southern economy and people were forced to be sharecroppers like my grandfather.
>>70920349
>The most successful businessmen...
We know that very well, but it's not en vogue to admit it around the bongs.
>>70920499
Yeah and the English tried to eradicate them too with the Clearances.
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Uh, wait a moment... There are still catholics and protestants in the British Isles?

So XX century.
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>>70920811
alri abu bakr mcmoor whatever you say
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Reminder.
If you're American and do not support the Irish against the British Devil, you do not stand for American values, and despite your citizenship, you were and never will be American.
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>>70920741
The south could have won, but thats what happens when your best divisional commander is killed by friendly fire and some batshit crazy nut decides for his army to go out prematurely in a blaze of glory
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>>70921794
>Celtic freedom
> Italian and Tenerife flag.
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>>70894908
had a wank to this
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>>70921794
>Scotland
>Celtic

>Celtic
>A thing
Dumb Goidelic
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>>70920461
>If the Irish people actually felt a cultural affinity toward the UK then maybe, but they don't
give over

outside of your celtic pride (which scotland, wales and cornwall also have) we're pretty much the same country
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>>70922464
>we're pretty much the same country
stop shitposting anytime
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>>70922585
> Denying the evidence
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>>70922585
yeah we get it m8 you hate brits up the ra an that

but you can't change the fact that we speak the same language, we share the same weather, the same landscapes, the same agriculture, the same architecture, the same shops, the same pubs, the same sports, the same humour, and so on and so forth

i'm not even trying to belittle your country and imply you aren't independent or whatever or that you have no culture of your own
i'm just stating that we are unquestionably very similar
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>>70894908
But a lot of Anglos were Catholics and the monarchs really didnt discriminate against catholics, there was a heavily protestant faction (puritans founded America so they have inherited responsibility too) who chalenged the king over what they saw as his pro-catholic tendencies- English Civil War, then you had a certain protestant wanker who had deposed the king doing things against the loyal catholics.

There was a pause after the restoration until the whole Jacobite thing when an illegitimate king took over because he was protestant. Then the protestant faction discriminated against the Catholics. Many Catholics converted to protestantism to avoid persecution so you cant blame all of today's protestants for the actions of the ones then.

So it is not the Anglos you must blame but Puritans and their successors. Therefore you must also blame the country founded by Puritans if you are going to blame all the British.
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