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Happy Sámi day, everyone!

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Happy Sámi day, everyone!
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>>70866320
Um, thanks, i guess
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ok
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>>70866320

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eveNk3o1ME

Sami national anthem
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>swedes went from forcefully sterilizing Sami's for being harmless white reindeer herders to importing everyone that isn't white in less than 50 years
Wtf
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>>70866320
Fine. Keep the reindeer plentiful and we're cool
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>>70866523
do finns understand sami?
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happy waitangi day
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>>70866320
kys
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>>70866320
what's a sami
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>>70866607
a reindeer nigger
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>>70866607
sami are scum
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who the fuck is sammy
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>>70866615
>>70866627
what are they like eskimos or something
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>>70866639
samsung's nickname
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>>70866583
no
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>>70866583

Hardly a single word. Our languages seperated in the 2nd millenium BC around the same time as Baltic-Finnic and Mordvin/Mari seperated.
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>>70866685
>>70866677
ok thanks
so how it sounds to you? kinda caveman?
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>>70866641
They are a people who migrated from east to the Scandinavian peninsula, after it was settled by Germanic I might add
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>>70866320
Jaevla Same
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>>70866804
do they live in igloos or have some ice magic and shit
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>>70866751
it sounds more familiar than indo european languages but still foreign nonetheless
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A shame the Norwegians never managed to finish the reeducation and extermination of the Sami language and culture.
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>>70866846
yes
t. sami expert
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>mfw swedes, norwegians and finns have to deal with these people
>we dont
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>>70866804

Yes but the northern part of Scandinavia had no Germanics but only abos.
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>>70866873
you have to deal with the faroese
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Since all three nations share this feeling of hate towards saami, surely you can understand why we had to forcefully educate the forest finns prowling around in sweden as well?
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day of the rope for sami when
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>>70866846
They are alcoholics that live in shitty huts in the tundra, live on gubmint handouts and fuck reindeers
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>>70866846
No, they're not esimos

Here watch this to fully understand them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fftnExG-WFg
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>>70866899
And actual eskimos
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>>70866925
>we
t. a descendant of peasant forest swedes
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>tfw no cute sami gf to bite my nuts
WHY EVEN LIVE?
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>>70866950
how do they manage to drink enough to become alcoholics if alcohol is expensive as fuck there?
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>>70866951
haha what the fuck is wrong with them
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>>70866925

Only some "White Power Heil Sverige" guys actually resent them in Finland.
Finns view them as unadvanced cousins but cousins none the less.
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>>70867023
Did I not mention gubmint handouts?
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>>70866320
We're here, we're queer, get used to it!
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>>70867045
t. Ártne
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>>70867045
t. ostrobothnian sami
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>I hate sami because cool americans hate indians so I must imitate them
Sad Tbh. I understand swedes being all butthurt because they are notoriously racist but finns and norwegians have no excuse to bully them
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>>70867045
t. Aslak Länsman
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>>70867051
that must be cool when your goverment gives you money for alcohol
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>>70867156
They leech off the government to continue their unprofitable reindeer herding bullshit, which by the way is the number one threat to the nature of Lapland. S*mis are nothing but an expenditure
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>>70866528
>sami
>white
burger education everyone
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>>70866320
I didn't know sami day was a thing.
How do you get sami gfs ?
Can you send 1 or 2 million like this one in France ?
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>>70867141

What the fuck did you just say? Swedish speaking Ostrobothnians are THE MASTER FUCKING RACE.
Purest WHITE ARYANS.
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>>70867295
Cry me a river faggot, I don't care
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>>70867388
no i dont wanna multiply the saami by 10.
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>>70867507
Fuck off Andte
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>>70866751
its sounds and looks literally hungarian, sort of familiar but weird
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>all these buthurt finnish samis ITT

TOP KEK
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>>70867388
>1-2 million
theres like 53 of them
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Here's a quick rundown.

>2000 BC
>some utterly useless and ugly tribes live in Finland
>2000-1000 BC
>Proto-Sami show up and KHAN the Abos, creating Khan-Abo mixes
>1000-500 BC
>Proto-Finnic people show up at the Baltic region with a high level of culture and technology from the upper Volga
>500 BC-1000 AD
>Finns displace Sami in Finland so they opt to move to Lapland where theres still more of the useless Abos around who they can bully off the face of the earth
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>>70867772
KANG
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>>70867825

It's all factual though. I'm not sure why it scares you so much as a Fenno-Swede that Finns came from the Volga.


http://www.academia.edu/4811760/An_Essay_on_Saami_Ethnolinguistic_Prehistory
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>>70866320
This thread is awful
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>>70867634
>>70867551
>53 X 40 = 1 590
If they're all young, we can improve the number drastically.
Send them. :^)
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>>70866320
Death to all reindeer fuckers
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>>70868271
x 30*
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>>70867861
thats probably true but most finns are just mongrels of different north europeans by now
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>>70868509
>mongrels
define better please, we don't have sub saharan african admixture..
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>>70867464
>tfw he used to be good now he is bad

wtf finns make him good again
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>>70868672
Are you sure?
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>>70868767
>tavasts are literal niggers
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>>70868509

I reject the idea that Finns are a slightly racially inferior version of Northern Europeans with some bad Finnic genes weakening the gene pool.

Racially inferior people don't spread their language and genes in the metal ages. It's scientifically impossible as it goes against the rules of nature. Strong survive.
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Is it true samis became Mongol due to Finnish admixture
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>>70868767
Wu wuz finnz n shiet
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>>70866320
HAPPY SÁMI DAY SÁMI PEOPLE!! X))))
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>>70868767
well im karelian so it doesn't matter
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>>70868982
>Let's go boys
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sami_people

>There's 136 Samis living in Ukraine
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>>70867464
what's wrong with his face
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>>70866899
>>70866960
>give both independence
>no problem!
>we wont have to deal with them all they will still buy our stuff
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>>70868256
Let's improve it.
Tell us more about the sami culture, and their contribution to their respective countries in the most relevant fields, please.
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>>70866320
whada wierd flag
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>>70869184

Ostrobothnian heritage disease.
They all look like that.
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>>70866685
But le Baltique are indo gayropean languages
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>>70869236

It's got nothing to do with them although Baltic-Finnic languages have loanwords from Baltic languages.

It's just the name for Finnish+Estonian+Veps+Ingrian etc.branch.

Saami is on it's own branch and it's not known for sure if it has a common ancestor with Baltic-Finnic.
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>>70869197
>give faroese independence
>they have no military of their own
>the whale wars reality tv show invades the country
>the fat guy becomes kang
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>>70869204
literally none
the laps have no justification for their existence
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>>70869204
>their contribution to their respective countries
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>>70869479
Not even one redeeming quality ?
They have a distinct culture. Swedes are always complaining about their lack of culture. I think there's something to exploit, there.
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>>70869204
........
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>>70866804
>after it was settled by Germanic I might add
pre-Germanic Paleolithic I1 niggers =/= Germanics
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>>70869602

Swedes have a culture it's called Norse(Norwegian) culture. They just don't want to identify with it anymore because they see Arabic culture as richer.
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>>70869364
They deserve that for taking 600 million DKK from us every year for a long time
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>>70869602
Yes they have a culture, but not a culture with positive qualities. It is distinct so I'd rather take sami culture than the current multiculti brown sludge but it on its own has no value
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>>70869602
>Sami """"culture""""
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6edUx1EDdo
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>>70869235

How do we fix Ostrobothnian heritage disease guys?
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>>70868509
>>70868897
Finns being of primarily non-Finnic extract is a Indo-European supremacist meme with no basis in reality. We look just like our pastoral metallurgist forefathers from Volga.
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>There are an estimated 30,000 people living in North America who are either Sami, or descendants of Sami. Most have settled in areas that are known to have Norwegian, Swedish and Finnish immigrants. Some of these concentrated areas are Minnesota, North Dakota, Iowa, Wisconsin, the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, Illinois, California, Washington, Utah and Alaska; and throughout Canada, including the Canadian territories of the Northwest Territories, Yukon, and the territory now known as Nunavut.
wtf i'm sami now
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>>70869881
t. kunkku
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>>70869966
t. self-hating cuck

go suck your swedish masters' limp dick
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>>70870030
aina vedät ihan liian yli ja spammaat joka vitun lankaa täyteen pseudo paskaa
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>>70869881
>haploautism

please go
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>>70869881

Some do, some don't.

If we try to figure out what Proto-Finnic people look like we need to look for similarities in our closest relatives.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57lWg1-Iam8
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>disgusting boatniggers hating on based reindeer shepherds

the day of russian boots will come soon fags
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>>70870064

Kunkulla sentään on teoria. Rantasveduilla vain esoteeristä paskaa suomalaisten ali-germaanisuudesta ja germaanirodun mahtavuudesta.
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>>70870150
en oo nähny rantaruotsalaisen puhuvan mistään germaanien mahtavuudesta
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>>70870064
>ihan liian yli
Miten niin liian yli? Koska en tiedosta hurrien narratiivia paskavammaisista suomalaisista jotka hurrit "sivisti"?
>>70870070
>I'll just disregard how unique our predominant lineage is in Europe because it makes me uncomfortable
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>>70870175

Ainakin yks rantasvedu triggeroituu ihan helvetisti ihan oikeasti järkevistä ja yleisisesti hyväksytyistä teorioista joilla ei ole mitään tekemistä pseudopaskan kanssa.
>>70867825
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>>70870175
Juuh, ei nyt ihan tyhjästäkään bättre folk -asenteet ynnä muu hurrien antisuomalaisretoriikka ilmestynyt.
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>>70870175
http://www.sci.fi/~eiry/aler_ru.html

Siinä sulle luettavaa.
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>>70870368
>swedish speaking finnish

This propaganda, he was a Swede living in Finland. There is no "Swedish-speaking Fins", they are Swedes who lives in the eastern rikshalf
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>>70870582
>There is no "Swedish-speaking Fins", they are Swedes who lives in the eastern rikshalf
It's actually the complete opposite. Most fennoswedes are ethnic finns who starting from the reforms of Vasa picked up Swedish to climb up the social ladder.

Very few actual Swedes migrated here to stay
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>>70870582

Well, if you want to claim this creature >>70869733
and >>70869235
and >>70867464

Please do.
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>thread about samis

>a hundred replies and it's a full on finland vs sweden shitshow

How do you autists manage?
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>>70870752
every time
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>>70867772
>Proto-Finnic people show up at the Baltic region with a high level of culture and technology
ancient fingolian aliens are true.
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>>70870673
No. Mannerheim was Swedish, Elias Lönnrot was Swedish. Finland has no history but Swedish history and Russian occupation
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>>70866320
Viva sàmiland
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>>70870752
Suomi mainittu, Torilla tavataan!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfqEFwb07w0
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Saami are cute. Congrats! :3
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>>70870752

It was a Saami hate thread anyway.

Nobody in Finland cares about 5000 people living in Lapland in Finland except people obsessed with racial theories about Germanic supremacy. Saami are so irrelevant that we have several times more Albanians and Somalians.
It was never about the Saami themselves, it's about racial supremacy.

These Finns who were posting in the thread want to be seen as sub-Germanics and only slightly racially inferior compared to Scandinavians but still acceptable to them.
Hating on the Saamis and their unadvanced ways is just a form of sucking up to Swedes and Norwegians.
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>>70870811
Elias Lönnrot was descended from the "Tolpo" -family, who were traders from Turku. Coupled with the family called "Niska" they were the only rich Finnish families in Turku who did not change their name to Swedish ones. So Lönnrot's family is exactly what I stated: Finns who adopted Swedish to climb up the social ladder.

>Mannerheim
Was German, if we go by your logic.

>Finland has no history but Swedish history and Russian occupation
I know you're just doing this so you can make another "le ebin finns are easy to bait" -thread tomorrow but you're just ignorant. It's sad that Swedes are actually taught all this ignorance in schools.
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>>70870956
>>70871036
How is it always like this?
How can you guys enjoy shit posting like this, day in day out just talking about this shit. Do you guys get rich by doing this?
Do you get fame?
Do you guys become better?
What the fuck are you doing.
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>>70870956
in Finland nobody cares about them or thinks about them or comes in contact with them all their lives.

however on 4chan there are impressionable teens who saw swedes and norwegians complain about samis for whatever reason so they copy that like they copy all foreign influence. also confirms their biases in hating anything outside of the urban areas. you probably see some of those in this very thread.
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>>70871147
Om du inte har något argument kan du ju bara hålla käft istället för att kalla dem bajsbrevare.
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>>70870500
>Pakkosuomihan ei edes pohjoismaisen "yhteistyön" ja maidemme monta sataa vuotta kestäneen yhteisen historian nimessä kuulu vieläkään Ruotsin peruskoulujen opetusohjelmaan, vaikka maassa on aina ollut suomenkielinen vähemmistö.

>Suomalaisten oletetaan kuitenkin tuon samaisen historian nimissä osaavan ruotsia ikään kuin suomen kieli ei sinänsä olisi pohjoismainen kieli ja osa Ruotsin historiaa ja ruotsalaisuutta. (… .)
WTF I hate Nordicism now!
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>>70871196
Tyst med dig smuts, jag vill inte höra på deras jävla gnäll om och om igen. Sluta mata dem hat.
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>>70871147
What do you mean shitposting? I genuinely hate Swedes and Sweden.
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>>70871147

There's Fenno-Swedes and Finnish Odinists spewing their bullshit about Germanic master race theories here on a daily basis and insisting that Finns are sub-Germanics: Inferior but fit to be slaves of the Nordic Resistance Movement.
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>>70871239
I don't care, stop shit posting about it over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. Jesus fucking christ.
>>70871255
I don't care, you shouldn't care. Let them be dumb or whatever. You guys are wasting time and not getting rich with whatever you do.
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>>70871230
>mata dem hat
Jag har inga andra brev i den här tråden, och det är ju du som svarar på deras brev med "har ni inget annat att göra?"
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>>70871307
Jag vill få dem förstå att deras jävla brev kommer inte förbättra livet för dem och de blir inte rika för att de bråkar om saken.
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>>70871192
I've had a dislike for samis long before I discovered 4chan my man. Though then again, I'm probably not a Finn by your standards
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>>70871284
But if anti-Nordicist Finns remain passive evil pan-Germanists will have their way.
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>>70871336
what stop, go to mämmi or go out and do something useful
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>>70871366
Redpilling Finns is on the true nature of Nordicism is pretty useful
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>>70871430
Do it in mämmi, please or do it in real life instead.
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>>70871334
on stormfront then, or wherever the fuck you hang out with your swede buddies
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>>70871336
if anti-Nordicist Finns remain passive evil pan-Germanists will have their way

Are you implying shitposting on /int/ has actual impact on anything?
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that explains the random samis skulking around...
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>>70871461
why do swedes get buttblasted when swedish lies get rebutted? babys gonna cry when you don't just get to have your way?
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>>70871508
I don't just post on the chan
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>>70871552
You must have a busy schedule
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>>70871535
We don't care, but seeing these threads over and over and over again makes me mad. This reminds me of that somalian nigger who posts "haha why finns ughlylgldlg xDDDD" or why "scandi peole don't haveculture xDD" shit over and over and over again
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>>70870811
>Mannerheim was Swedish

Mannerheim was an ethnic mutt and cultural russian imperial aristocratic military officer. He knew russian better than swedish just fyi

so your point was?
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Holy fucking shit this thread

every time
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>>70871334

Everyone knows they were unadvanced.
Their fate in Finland is to get assimilated into Finns and share our more glorious past.
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>>70871577
It's just mr.kang desu. You can see by his posts alone he isn't very stable guy and probably doesn't really have a life outside of internet.

inb4 kang replies with:

>Cuck
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>>70871658
t. Cai-Göran af Cuckenberg
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genocide when?
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>>70871685
Ehh, atleast it was somewhat new

mutta joo, myötistä joka tuutista.
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>>70871767
t. caj-göran sturmpippel
>Ehh, atleast it was somewhat new
not really
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>>70871658
>>70871767
Painting everybody who doesn't conform to the Svecoman narrative of Finnish inferiority as "unstable" is just another imperialist tactic to keep Finns from eradicating them.
>>
WE
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>>70871577

How about you get the fuck out of /int/ and start browsing Reddit?
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>>70871874
Painting everyone who doesn't care nor conform with absolute insanity and childish attitude as a swedish imperialist doesn't draw any favours either. Makes you look more dumb if anything. Have you ever thought that maybe people don't care about race? Especially when the difference is so slight you have to cry about it in 4chan to make a difference.
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>>70871952
How about you get the fuck out of East Sweden and go back to living in huts on the Volga?
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I am partly of Sami descent and I am disgusted with they way Sami are always trying to play the martyr and claim special rights for their useless culture
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>svecoman
>cai-göran
>sturmpippel
>nordicist
>supremacism
nice SJW language that kunkku uses, beware.
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>>70871461
>going in /g*nerals/
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>>70871973
the fact they are pushing for more rights when they have more than equal rights in our current societies is disgusting
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>>70871969
wow... fuck you cai göran.
I'm with kang now.
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>>70871969
>East Sweden
Håll käft. Finland förtjänar sin självständighet.
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>>70871967
>Painting everyone who doesn't care nor conform
Not caring is fine, but disavowing those who don't conform contradicts that.
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>>70871983
t. per ulle homosköld
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>>70872045
Read the whole post you dumb kid.
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>>70872045
You care so much you post about it every single day to argue with the same people and be told to fuck off by the same people.
Have your opinion all you want, but maybe you should consider keeping it to yourself if nobody wants to hear you talk about the same shit every single day?
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>>70872099
This ffs. it's so tiresome.
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>>70872089
If I wasn't for finnish empowerment, I'd let you go on with your turbo-autism.
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>>70872040
>>70872024
Finland as a nation is a Russian construction. They created the myth of a finnish national identity in order to make sure Sweden would never regain its eastern half. It is like the polonization of the lands east of the Oder-Neisse
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>>70872099

To be fair at least he is right about more things than the opponents.
It doesn't matter who he annoys if he annoys people who believe in batshit insane theories.
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>>70872163
>tfw i've only made t.(insert gay svecoman name) posts
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>>70872093
>maybe people don't care about race
Finns don't, but as for Swedes, well...

>>70870500
>>70871197
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>>70872225
Protip: Finnish identity existed long before that.
>this is exactly why kang exists.
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>>70872163
Nordicism and pan-Germanism isn't very empowering or healthy for the mindset of Finns.
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>>70872131
>>70872163
>>70872045

Not "kang" or whoever but let's analyze this discussion your having.

It started with my post (this is my second post)
>>70871036 where I explained that unlike the Swede claimed Lörnot was Finnish. Down the line you claim my post is a sign of instability (>>70871658) and that my post is painting everyone who disagrees with me as a swedish imperialist(>>70871967) and that I care about race (>>70871967)

What is in your mind so objectionable in me correcting a Swede making false claims about Finnish history?
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>>70872284
finnish identity was being a poor bönde
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>>70872326
och att vara svensk är att vara hanrejad för evigt och suga somaliekuk haha lol
Håll käft.
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>>70872326
Most fennoswedes are böndes you idjit
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>>70872284
It most certainly did not. The difference between Finland and Sweden was the same as the difference between Svealand. Götaland or Norrland and the rest of Sweden.
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>>70872326
Dont even have to tell you what swedish identity is these days. Your countryman already did that.
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>>70872351
fennoswedes are just cucked finns
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>>70872326
So is swedish. By your magical logic
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Kunkku mee kaivaa lisää tikareita tai jotain itärajalta nii lähtee suomi nousuun.
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>>70872351
but fennoswedes are finns that speak swedish
not swedes.
that's what kang has told me.
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>>70872344
pekka ..
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>>70872367
It did. I can go deeper into it, prove it to you but I'll just get retarded "I'm in the middle ergo I'm better" screeching at me.

Finnish identity existed before Russians and Swedes. All the necessary requirements for a distinct culture have been met for several hundred years.
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>>70870811
>>70871883
>>70871969
>>70872225
>>70872326
I wish Swedes would be this loud about what they really think when not writing behind the comfort of a nickname. Perhaps our situation would be different.
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>>70872428
they are just baiting for kang (you)'s at this point
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>>70872428
That guy is as representative of Swedes as kang is of Finns
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>>70872392
Bönde = someone who doesn't live in Helsinki. I have no idea where you got the idea that I was saying fennoswedes are swedes.

ps. I'm not kang.
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>>70872385
>>70872463
http://www.sci.fi/~eiry/alersuom.html
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Vittu te ootte kaikki pellejä. Otatte tosissanne joidenkin kahden vatipaan paskanjauhannan ja muodostatte ihkaoikeita mielipiteitä näistä. Ottakaa se kuuluisa reality check ja katsokaa millä sivustolla olette. Myötähäpeän määrää ei voi mitata.
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>>70871874
Jesus fuck your autism mostly embarasses us. Go away, we are laughed at because of this kind of bullshit about muh heritage kill swedish imperialists while we could just talk normally to them but no in every fucking thread this starts
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>>70872351
>>70872326
Nothing wrong with being an honest, hardworking bonde. The land is the lifeblood of the nation, those who take care of the land are the foremost representatives of the nation. Not the cosmopolitan, degenerated urbanites.

>>70872421

Saying there existed a finnish identity doesn't make that identity's foundations legitimate.
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kek this thread is hilarious
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>>70872413
Är man nu Pekka för man tycker Finländare faktiskt har något värde som ett folk?
Bara sluta. Finländare är vårt brödrafolk och att kalla dem bönder hjälper inget med vårt förhållande på kanalen. Vi har nog med kang som försöker "upplysa" människor om svenskt förtryck.

>>70872428
Even if we were brave enough, it would be one man versus an army of people who disagree and can have an impact on your real life.
It goes without saying that calling someone a retard on 4chan means nothing, but will get you shunned in real life.
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>>70872562
Ei voi alemmuuskompleksille sitten mitään, aina tartuu kiinni kunkku näihin lankoihi.
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>>70872562
tää iha vitusti :D:D
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>>70872527
>>70870500

A girl killing herself because of fennoswede bullying doesn't surprise me at all. Living in Finland proper and having lived in towns like Parainen etc has really show me that Fennoswedes get fucking nasty when given power.
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>>70872584
Finns get really triggered when you talk about samis
wonder why
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>>70872594
Eivät hurrit ole koskaan pitäneet meitä tasavertaisina, se on fakta eivätkä mitkään kompleksit sitä muuta.
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>>70872582
>Saying there existed a finnish identity doesn't make that identity's foundations legitimate.
I have no idea what this post is supposed to convey. Finland has a culture, Finnish culture existed before Swedes and Russians. These are all proven historical facts, you just haven't studied them and base your opinions on your own musings.

Seriously, where did you get the idea that Finnish culture and finns were invented by Swedes/Russians? The language I speak today proves you wrong.
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>>70872592
hanrej...
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>>70872680

Triggered indeed see >>70866615

The suggestion that Finns might not be sub-Germanics but something entirely different is deeply troubling for Finnish Germanicists.

They will dismiss science and go to absurd lengths to insist we are "a mixture of northern european peoples".


We are however not Saami as our ancestors came from the Volga more recently and had a higher level of culture and metallurgical technology.
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Are the Sami as depressed as their Finnish, Estonian and Hungarian cousins?
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>>70872810
>hanrej
Nej självklart, Mohammad och Abdullah är vårt nuvarande brödrafolk enligt dig. Pekka och Teemo är ba så 1900-talet.
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>>70872702
1800 luvun rotuoppia käytti joka maa, meni jo.
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>>70872853
all nords are depresssed
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>>70872822
Finns did not "come" to Finland. Finland has been settled ever since the ice moved. After that Finland has experienced influxes of different peoples, who now make up the Finnish people. Sami are people who were separated from these influxes of new people, and thus are today different from finns.

Modern linguists agree that Finnish for example evolved in Finland, and wasn't brought there.
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>>70872562
Täähän se ois

Vittu noi äijät on sekasin
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>>70872584
Believe it or not, it actually gets pretty annoying that almost every thread even vaguely connected to Finland turns into a complete shitfest after a while
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>>70872863
>muh brödrafolk
häng dig själv hanrej. alla utbölingar kommer hänga på repets dag
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>>70872864
Et ole tainnut hirveästi olla suomenruotsalaisten kanssa tekemisissä jos uskot että heidän asenne suomalaisia kohtaan jäi 1800-luvulle.

t. semihurri
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I hate you all. My embarassing countrymen who cant let it be and annoying swedes who bait our autists or just think theyre so much better
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>>70872864
Ruotsalaiset olivat tässä pioneereja ja heidän ansiostaan suomalaisia syrjittiin Yhdysvalloissa ja vaikka missä "aasialaisuutensa" pohjalta.
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>>70872936
it's funny to see finns sperg out
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>>70872900

This is bullshit from beginning to end.
We came as we were from the upper Volga. Vepsä are very close to us genetically. There is no continuity and if there is it probably results in really strange looking people in Ostrobothnia.
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>>70872963
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Not all Sami are the same. There are two types of people, the reindeer lobby living in Finnmark, who hold a lot of power, and there are everyone else. Sami people who are not part of the Finnmark reindeer lobby often dislike those people. There is nothing wrong with Sami people in general, only the reindeer lobby groups.
2bh it's a bit problematic that you have to be ethnically Sami to be allowed to own reindeer in most of the country. I think it's really problematic to have different laws for people depending on their ethnicity. There should be another way to support Sami culture that doesn't go against basic principles like this.
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>>70873002
finn*

Is mostly just this one turboautist every time. He's pretty efficient
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>>70873082
I'm not the only pastoral metallurgist poster so no, there are multiple kangs

t. kang
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>>70873082
This, I dont even know what he tries to say anymore tho his bullshit is getting delusional
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>>70872864
>meni jo.
eipä menny xDDD

>>70870368

http://reijotossavainen.puheenvuoro.uusisuomi.fi/100697-suomenruotsalaisella-rasismilla-pitk%C3%A4t-perinteet

http://www.tiede.fi/keskustelu/38134/ketju/ahvenanmaa_ja_etninen_syrjinta
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>tfw get called a homohurri or something else along those lines innabönde every time my last name comes up

It's not even a Swedish name, it's German. Why are böndes such bullies?
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>>70873014
>This is bullshit from beginning to end.
It isn't in any way. This is modern and academically accepted information.
>We came as we were from the upper Volga. Vepsä are very close to us genetically. There is no continuity and if there is it probably results in really strange looking people in Ostrobothnia.
No we did not. The "we came as an unified people" idea has been abandoned for 60 years now, as the idea that the ethnic origin of finns is the Volga-region.

The mild continuity theory has the most support, and is the one that archaeology, linguistics and gene studies support
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>>70872900
>Finns did not "come" to Finland
We sure are pretty homogenous in our lineages if that's the case. >>70869881
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>>70873191
Not as a unified people, but in multiple waves of different Finnic tribes. Then they mixed with Paleolithic I1 huntergatherers, who then adopted their language and culture in exchange for such luxuries as metallurgy and a stable source of food instead of berrypicking.

t. other
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>>70873191

>This is modern and academically accepted information.

>The mild continuity theory has the most support, and is the one that archaeology, linguistics and gene studies support

Nope, sorry. We don't have ancient DNA from Finland because the ground eats the bones but the ancient DNA from Karelia and Baltic countries refute it.

We're not all that native here. We're mostly a mixture of Uralic men and Indo-European females who had non-European admixture from Caucasus and Anatolia as well.

Ancient Finlanders had none of that, no Uralic and no Indo-European because it doesn't make sense it would exist in Finland but not Karelia or Baltic.

http://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(16)31542-1

You can roleplay a native if you want but it's pseudo-science. Uralic males and Indo-European females is how it mostly went down. Abos played some role sure but not a dominant one.
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>>70873467
I support this theory.
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This is it. I'm leaving this board permanently. None of this shit matters in real life, hell it doesnt matter even outside of this board and you still spend your lifes making these bullshit theories and starting autism shitstorms over them. Have nice autism everybody
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>>70873628
see you tomorrow anon
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>>70873628
can you imagine
during the fennoman/svecoman battles one hundred years ago this shitposting was done in real life by university professors and the top echelons of media
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>>70873691

Actuallly Fennomans and Svecomans University students fought about it IRL with their fists.
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>>70873807
beating up homo-göran to a pulp must've been satisfying
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Fascinerende tråd, gutta.
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>>70873691
it's still going on and won't stop until swedish is removed as a mandatory subject from schools and ultimately its official language status is abolished
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>>70873941
Only if you cede Svenskfinland 2bh
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>>70873941
>won't stop until swedish is removed as a mandatory subject from schools and ultimately its official language status is abolished

A L D R I G
L
D
R
I
G
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>>70866320
>>70866615
>>70866950
also this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5iOji5JmvE
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>>70873941
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>>70873959

>Svenskfinland

No such thing. All of mainland Finland is ours.
Åland was ours too back in the day. Well maybe there will be a Finnish speaking Ahvenanmaa again one day...
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>tfw no sapmi grillfriend to chew my testicles off
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>>70873959
Only if you cede Norrland t b h
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>>70873959
>Svenskfinland
No such thing as no province in Finland is monolingually Swedish, save for Åland.
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>>70874068
You sick nazi fucks you!!! Ihan oikein oli että tommosten aseveljinä ei enää -44 kesällä oltu... You nazis burned half of lappland but even that wasnt enough for yous sick twisted fucks. You made the innocent civilians to perform fellatio to a reindeer as you comfortably watched it at side... You fukin assholes!
Perkele saatana paskiaiset! Kuolema saksalaisvaltaajille!!
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>>70874169
kek'd hard at this T B H
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>>70874169
lappi btfo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5fbmEy1GL4
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>>70866320
Lihkku beivviin!
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>>70874676
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2epIe3oxbM
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>>70874676
>>70874762

Here we go again with the Germanicist fantasies.
Finnish volunteers in SS didn't burn down Lapland despite you loving the idea.
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>>70874676
we wuz germanics and sheeeit bois
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>>70874827
Ota nyt iisisti kunkku, ylianalysoit silkkaa paskapostausta kuten aina.

+ valitettavasti olen 1/2 sakemanni joten hyshyshys
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>>70874967
>1/2 sakemanni
älä silti suomalaisten identiteettiä yritä saastuttaa paskallasi

t. eri
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>>70875019
Suomalainen saa olla mitä haluaa tietääkseni
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>>70874827
fantasioita voi hurrilla olla, anna olla.
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>>70874967

Puolikkailla on usein identiteettiongelmia.
Varmaan vituttaa kun et ole saksalainen mutta et suomalainenkaan, et siis oikeastaan mitään paitsi sekarotuinen joka ei oikein sovi minnekkään.
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>>70875046
Saksaan siitä hus, emämaasi tarttee sua nyt enemmän kuin koskaan
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>>70875087
Ihan suomalaiseksi itseni olen identifioinut koko elämäni ajan. Näin myös sukuni, kaikki jotka olen tavannut ja valtio. Se että joku perskipeytynyt luuseri kiinalaisella mattovaihtofoorumilla sanoo toisin tuskin vavisuttaa konsensusta.
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>>70868767
Proud ostbothnian living in Keski-Suomi. Savonian, Lappish and Tavastians are just posers who are not true finns
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>>70875224
Juuh, voisit olla sitten ihan hyssyn hyssyn tosta sun saksalaispuolestasi ja SS -pataljoonista ynnä muista, paitsi jos ajat oikeasti jotain pan-germanisti -agendaa.

t. eri taas
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>>70875224

Aatteiltasi et vaikuta olevan suomalaismielinen vaan pikemminkin germanisti.

Varmaan haluaisit että pari miljoonaa sakua muuttais Suomeen rotua parantmaan.
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>>70875224
ei kukaan sua hauku jos olet puoliks saksalainen, hurrina on vaikeempaa.
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>>70866950
He's asking about sami, not 4chan Finns.
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>>70875352
vittuako ketään edes jotkut rotujutut kiinnostaa? Herää nyt mies todellisuuuteen.
>>70875415
Sama sinulle. Suututte kun postaan suomalaisia imartelevan videon missä internetin rakastama diktaattori ylistää suomalaisia
Mitäpä jos molemmat teistä vaikka kävisi joskus muuallakin kuin internetin ihmeellisessä maassa.
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>>70875441
No kyllä se näille kahdelle inviduaalille täällä näyttää olevan jokin ongelma.

(en todellakaan implikoi että kaanin vatpiäät mitään enemmistöä edustaa mutta kuitenkin)
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cringed hard
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Samis are alright.
They stay on their own turf and don't bother anyone except to get more money to keep living their "way of life":
They're all right, as far as natives go.
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>>70866320
>l*mon
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>>70875566
>"lmoa finns are dense sub-humans"
>oh shit we're on the verge of genocide, pls finns come save us
>c- certainly m- master
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>>70875469
sävy näyttää tovin muuttuneen tästä näin >>70874676
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>>70875673
En ole sama tyyppi hönö.

t: >>70874762
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>>70875566
>cringed hard
ehkä ruotsin tila vaikuttaa siihen paljon tänne valuu loppujen lopuks?
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>>70875742
juuh, sovitaan vaikka niin
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>>70875441

>hauku

Suomessa ruotsinkielisiä suositaan esim. kiintiöpaikoissa kouluissa ja sä vittu itket jostain haukkumisesta.
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>>70875836
Ennemmin annan ruotsalaisten sekoittua pois ja sitten systemaattisesti teurastaa niiden mutiaisjälkeläisiä jos ne yrittää tulla tosta rajan yli.
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>>70866320
Thanks m8, long live the autochtonous population of Scandinavia and Finland.

Let me know when you're going to cull the shitwalker popuation.

also
>tfw no qt reindeer castrating Saami gf
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>>70875939
>Ennemmin annan ruotsalaisten sekoittua pois
koska ne ansaitsee sen, unohdin lisätä
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>>70875939
juu suomi nousuun vihalla
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>>70875939
bruutaalia. Kai hakkaat jokaisen ruotsalaisen kehen törmäät?
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>>70875943

You're not fooling anyone with that gf shit Belgifag.
You've admitted you love boys.
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>>70876025
>>70876061
Jos 1/3 ruotsalaisista kuolisi tällä silmänräpäyksellä mä olisin ihan sujut niiden kanssa, sitä ei vaan tuu tapahtumaan valitettavasti. Joten paras veto on toi niiden poissekoittuminen.
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>>70866607
>what's a sami

Known as Oxioni and Herules to the Romans (see Tacitus), who imagined they were part animal (reindeer) part man, they have been the neighbours-to-the-north of the Fenni, known today as Finns, for the last 2 millenia.
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>>70866607
winter abbos
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>>70876121
kulmikasta.

Lääkitys: raikasta ilmaa ja ihmiskontakteja
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>>70876121
nyt on psykoosi päällä
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>>70869641
not really, 50% of Gotland, home of the Goths, is I1

same with a good part of Friesland and Holland

proto-Germanic maybe? although we need to include I2b but not I2a (Dinarics) so that will not fly
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>>70866528
>harmless
fucking drunk bandits is what they are
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>>70876178
>>70876228
Ei tässä oo kulmikkuudesta kyse vaan siitä, ettei hurrit oo koskaan joutunu kärsimään kunnolla mistään mitä ne koskaan teki.
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>>70876270
>proto-Germanic
No.
>50% of Gotland is I1
A pocket of I1 men from Doggerland who got Germanized by some rogue band of Indo-European R1 sailors who brought their language, culture and technology with them.
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>>70866751
it's actually phonetically almost identical to finnish, far closer than, lets say, estonian. vocabulary is completely alien though.
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>>70876106
adolescents that is


>>70876396
anyway I* is a subgroup of IJ which shares blood with Arabs and Chechens, yuck.

At least R1* are Celts, Celto-Germanics and Slavs mainly, only good company.
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>>70876468
Wait, what? Saami is closer to Finnish than Estonian? Is that what you are saying?
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>>70871658
this 100% it's only mr. kang
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>>70876501
I1 is also literally the youngest clade in Europe, despite Scandinavians claiming to be "oldest" and "native".

Feels good being R1a tbqhwyf
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>>70876106
(I swing both ways btw, don't tell anyone)
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>>70876549
no. it only sounds more similar.
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>>70876602
No it doesn't. It sounds and looks like hungarian.
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>>70876298
Jos tosissasi olet sitä mieltä että nykypäivän ruotsalaisten tulee kärsiä esivanhempiensa teoista, niin onhan se nyt aika 14v psykopaatti-tier kulmikkuutta.
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>>70876623
you'r mom looks like hungarian construction worker.
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>>70876654
your*
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>>70876298
röyh röyh, mites noi valkoiset amerikkalaiset?
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>>70876298
aika neekeri-tier toivomukset sieltä.
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>>70876298
Nyt vittu kang...
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>>70876549

You can listen to it here and tell us >>70866523
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>>70876647
>>70876716
>>70876679
Ei kaunankanto noin vain lopu, vaikka sitä kuinka yrittäisi rationalisoida.
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>kaikenmaailman ählämit ja neekerit tulvii eurooppaan ja suomeen
>kunkku keskittyy vaan paskapostaamiseen ruotsalaisista ja niiden vihaamiseen, pilaten joka langan missä on jotain suomalaisista ja/tai ruotsalaisista
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn0rFO2x828
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>>70866523
Wth this is proper Ayy language
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>>70876814
juuh elikkä siis >>70875566
>>70875625
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>>70876784
No oletpas sinä oikein urhoollinen suomalaisuuden puolustaja, haluatko mitalin?
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>>70876889
En, selvensin vain kantaani. "En ole vastuussa esi-isieni teoista" ei päde oikein missään päin maailmaa.
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>>70876568
Interesting chart, regarding haplogroup T, it is present here in minor amounts (couple of % here and there). Interesting that it seems to be older than the extinction of the Neanderthals.

>>70876602
Like Finnish and Italian are phonetically similar? Same for Flemish and Swedish btw, but that is mainly because of the shared common å sound (which Holland Dutch doesn't have).

>>70876623
Well, all Finno-Ugric languages, isn't it? But these are also somewhat similar to Turkish.

Some tribes in Russia were found because of interbreeding of Finno-Ugrics with Turkics, the Chuvash come to mind.
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>>70876814

Hurrit tosin käyttävät näitä mamuja tekosyynä liittää Suomi Ruotsiin, NRM/SVL ei ole mikään internetmeemi vaan järjestö joka vaatii ruotsalaisvallan paluuta Suomeen.

Enkä ole kunkkunne.
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>>70877003
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ir25QVp43w


Juuh miten vaan.
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>>70866528
self-flaggelation on a level that shames the Germans

>>70876755
It sounds much more Asian than "levan polkka" but there are indeed phonetical similarities on first sight, for a non-Finno-Ugric-speaker.

Sounds very different from the Hungarian suicide song too, but that may just be the general atmosphere.

captcha: NEGRO WALNUT
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>>70877011

Turkic and Uralic people have pretty similar origins to begin with.
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>>70866320
Sami have the best flag in Scandinavia. Too bad there's so few of them.
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Why so much hate towards sami people?
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>>70877011
italian sounds like italian. sami sounds like a finn speaking meaningless gibberish with some random familiar words.
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>>70877339
See >>70870956, >>70871255 and >>70872822
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>>70877224
We have pretty similar pronouns like Finnish minun, Kazakh menin, and basic words Turkish olmak and Finnish olmak etc.

Not saying it means we're necessarily related but it's pretty interesting nonetheless.
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>>70877499
>Finnish olmak
*olla
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>>70877499
>Not saying it means we're necessarily related

No shit, turanism was thrown out of the academical viewpoint with finnics like 60 years ago.
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>>70877555

Academic viewpoints must be consistent with the facts and not the other way around.
Turanism or rather some moderate version of it where Uralic and Turkic/Mongolia share areal features(probably originally cultural as well in addition to linguistic) seems most consistent with the facts about our origins.
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>>70877224
true, and it goes way back, although both groups lived in distinctly different areas

must be the old Iranic horse archer nomadic lifestyle Turkics copied from the ancient Aryan tribes such as the Scythians (all R1a* not the later G2a3* of the Sarmatians, Alans and Ossetians).
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>>70877345
I've read somewhere that Finns can learn Italian the best of all European peoples and vice versa, because they share all phonetics used in their respective languages.

Sure they are two vastly different languages vocabulary and grammar-wise, but purely phonetically they are close.
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>>70877854
And viewpoints from the angle of some internet sperg who posts few mememaps and takes everything personally is to be considered because?
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>>70877879
>>70877944
Reminder that Scythians were a tribal confederation and most likely included Finno-Uralic people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budini
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuri
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>>70877854
I agree with this, it'd be consistent with archeological data and core-level linguistic similarities like agglutination and pronouns.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seima-Turbino_phenomenon
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>>70877998

I'm just saying we have to find facts somewhere and genetics seems like a good place to start.
You can dismiss genetics entirely as memes but that doesn't mean you debunked it you just look like an idiot.
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>>70871255
>Finnish Odinists

That's sad. At least they should pick PErkele or something.

Hey it is the same here, Flemish nationalists like to LARP as pure Germanics, they refer to Wodan as Odin, and completely ignore or Celtic and Celto-Germanic roots, Celto-Germanic meaning West-Germanic tribes (and even a Danish Nordic one) who moved here and adopted Celtic culture, intermixed with them.

All because they somehow need to feel included in nazi racial theories.

I said it before and will say it again: Celts vastly outnumbered Germanics for centuries. R1b* subclades in Western Europe originated mostly as Celtic and Italic, border clades very common here, such as R1b-106 are Celto-Germanic, not Germanic.

Net to that, East-Germanic tribes around the time of Attila and the Great Migrations were mostly R1a, proto-Slavic in this sense. They were as Germanic as South-Slavs are Slavic, i.e. they just adopted the language and culture to some extent.
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>>70877944
maybe there aren't many completely unknown sounds to one another but the rhythm and the structure is still not anyhow similar. sami is.
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>>70878184
The only god we have is Christ. We are a Christian nation.
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>>70871334
Well, I only remember a Norwegian Lapp laughing at Finns calling them "shitwalkers". Of course the rebuttal of the Finns made sense, i.e. they used modern science to come to the conclusion that spreading dung on poor soil is generally advantageous.

I've noticed that Varg often hammered on Euronymous' supposed Saami heritage, as if that would make him inferior and legitimizes his crime.

I still say they are as European as us, they have lived amongst us for long enough. Same with the Finns, sure they may not be Indo-Germanic and sure they have similar genetic diseases like the high nobility and the jews, in times of peril they'll always be our European brothers. The fact that they upgraded their peasant nation to a top 10 first world country in only half a century, says enough. Actions speak louder than words.
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>>70871967
>Painting everyone who doesn't care nor conform with absolute insanity and childish attitude as a swedish imperialist doesn't draw any favours either.

Hey the Flemish separatists to exactly the same. At least in real life most of them want an independent Flemish republic, on the internet the loudest voices are those cucks that suck up to the Dutch.
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>>70871967
>Painting everyone who doesn't care nor conform with absolute insanity and childish attitude as a swedish imperialist doesn't draw any favours either.

Hey the Flemish separatists to exactly the same. At least in real life most of them want an independent Flemish republic, on the internet the loudest voices are those cucks that suck up to the Dutch.
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are sami's that look like proper sami's still a thing? proper leathery chinky looking fucks?

when you image search them, they all look like they've been bred with whites and look almost exactly like finns lmao
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>>70878622
No, theyre mostly turned finnish. They only have darker hair. Maybe theres few in norway
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>>70878622
that's not because they have mixed, they just spend less time outdoors. even like 50 years ago most of them literally lived out in the wild.
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>>70872225
bullshit, as if the Finnish language never existed, also they look vastly different compared to you

You remind me of the old franskiljon "francophiles" here, who denied our separate identity and before WW I actually tried to push French on us, and after that German.

Sure we have a peasant-tier language that comes straight out the Middle Ages, West-Flemish dialect is very close to the original language of the Franks.

Sure our land was bilingual Flemish and French since about a millenium. But when you try to kill an existing culture don't come crying when they hate your guts.

At least we didn't end up like the Irish, Irish being the 3rd language of the country after English and Polish. We at least managed stubbornly to acquire cultural independence, even if it took us more than a century.

Having 2 languages on our soil never was an issue before the 19th century btw.

As much as I like to pull on Finnish testicles and rile them up, "bullying a girl is asking for love", I will always support them because I recognize certain things, namely cultural imperialism, with equate the Swedes to the French.

(BTW I still like the French, most here do, but you have to draw a line when you are a neighbour of a country that is vastly more influencial culturally, and when they vastly outnumber you)
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>>70877533
Muinnaissuomessa suurin osa verbeistä ja adjektiiveisrä päätty loppukoohon eli jokaisen sanan lopussa oli K -kirjain. Ollak, mennäk, kävelläk. Siitä on vielä paljon jäänteitä painotuksissa että ollak on epäironisesti oikein
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is there a difference between lapps and samis?
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>>70879057

Nope not really.
But if talked about Sami related people who lived outside Lapland in the past it would be better to call them Lapp, because they were known as such by Finns until they were assimilated.
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>>70873014
>Vepsä are very close to us genetically.

True, in fact Finno-Ugric heritage is what makes Russians different from other Slavs. Putin is 1/4th Veps iirc.

Still I wonder about the Fenni question. I still think they were not the same Saami, who were briefly mentioned as Oxioni by Tacitus.

I think modern Finns are the product of a merging of several Finno-Ugric people, including the older Fenni (because iirc ancient Suomi were still living in modern day Estonia around Tacitus' days).

The Fenni must have been populous, since the land is still named after them, also Finnmark in Norway.

Now it is common for newcomers to adopt the name of a previos tribe (Friesland, Bohemia, Belgium...) but in such cases usually the more numerous newcomers absorb the previous inhabitants. Hence the reason why Czech still suffer from typically Celtic diseases like haemochromatosis.
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>>70879135
i went to a reindeer ranch in lapland when i was a kid

does that mean i probably met samis?
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>>70879197
Fenni were probably the indigenous I1 people that lived here, whose Paleolithic language prevails in place names like Imatra.
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>>70879057
no. "sami" is their name for themselvesand "lapp" is finnish word that's etymological root means pretty much "edge of the world"
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>>70879197
>Putin is 1/4th Veps
He's a Meryan (Volga Finn) and looks like one, too. Ukrainian nationalist bring it up pretty often.
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>>70879233
50/50 you either met or met not.
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>>70879197

>Still I wonder about the Fenni question. I still think they were not the same Saami, who were briefly mentioned as Oxioni by Tacitus.

But Ante Aikio who is a Saami and the chief expert on his own people thinks that Lapland was "Paleo-Laplandic" around the days of Tacitus. >>70867772 >>70867861

Saami were from the south according to him and it's a pretty sound speculation since their loan words suggest contact with Finnic and Germanic traders, and also the placenames they left behind in southern Finland and just about everywhere else.
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>>70878058
True but they started out as R1a* Iranics.

Especially the Sarmatians allowed others, such as Goths, as long as they prove they were brave enough and could tame a horse.

I'd still say today's Mongols and Turkic nomads in the steppes are the descendants in life-style of the Scytho-Sarmatians.

Scythians has a serious fertility problem, possibly caused by living on horse-back (testicles need to be 35°C to be fertile, horsebacks are heating sources). Hence only the Ossetians can claim direct heritage, and that is only to the Sarmatians, not the Scythians. Closest to Scythians would be anyone with R1a*, mostly Slavs in Europe.
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>>70879548
>Closest to Scythians would be anyone with R1a*
Weren't Scythians Z93 or Z94?
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>>70878322
of course

people laugh at me for sympathising with the cathars and bogomili, and believing they were the true original christians, yet they will larp as faggy "pagans" whose teachings were inferior, rightly so wiped out, yet still alive today as superstitions of peasants (even the word païen, pagan, means "he who lives in the countryside")
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