/lang/ - Language learning thread

Il y a qq autres regles de grammaire que je dois apprendre?
Je peux ulitiser:
Présent, Passé C, Imperfait, Pqparfait, Gérondif, F simple, F proche, subjunctif, cond, cond passé
Passive, Si, En

How long do you guys think it will take for me to become conversational in Italian?

I already know fluent Spanish and have a good 3 hours a day that I can study and practice it

>>70848705
How many hours per day did you study spanish?

>>70849164
I lived in Argentina for 2 years

>>70851287
That seems a bit too harsh. I hope you're ok.

>>70846927

Anyone know where i can get good tv shows in Italian (preferably with english subs)

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>>70851348

i think duolingo is shit, i've been doing it daily for 2 month now, i learn some word but nothing more, not interesting in the longterm. Also i discorver a great site with professionnel teacher, you have to pay like 10€ per hour for a real lesson. I consider taking some lesson.
italki.com

>>70851744
don't talk shit about duolingo

>>70847526
Subjonctif de l'imparfait

Is korean worth learning? I like the language but I dont know if I will find a job with it

Fuck i wish Greek was useful.

>>70854334
A language doesn't need to be useful for you to learn it

>>70851744
Don't depend on Duolingo to give you the same all-around learning experience multiple sources can, or a teacher, taking your example into consideration

>>70851515
Torrents
RAI TV
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKkDjgBOPjWG6MDWywOxwIl3mC1pftZse

>>70848705
>I already know fluent Spanish and have a good 3 hours a day that I can study and practice it
Two weeks, three tops

>>70847526
As a non-native, always work more on expanding your vocabulary. Suggestivity of your language is as important as neat grammar, and I see you know the bulk of it already

>>70854262
Korean is worth learning if you want to learn it and you are motivated enough to
Never will job providers scoop you up just for knowing a certain languge. Job seekers always have to make an effort, whether they have the language or any other skill worth monetising. The general karma of the job market: You only start getting offers once you find employment already

bmmmmp

>over 90% of russians learning swedish on hellotalk are qt grills
>don't have a picture and nobody messages me

Dobro jutro svima
sada čitam knjigu o hrvatskoj gramatici
pa jebote, mrzim gramatiku od hrvatskog

Mi semestre nuevo empezará en unas semanas y todavía no he estudiado algo durante mis vacaciones ;_; Hay unos chicos en mi clase que han viajado a paises hispanos, y ahora ellos probablemente van a hablar mejor que yo

>>70856671
>tfw they message me despite having no picture

>>70856671
Get a picture you autist
>>70848705
Let me know how you go.
Once I finish Spanish, I intend to give Portuguese a try, followed by Italian.
>>70851348
top kek

Putaaaaaaain j'ai terminé Duolingo il y a 1 semaine et maintenant je me sens perdu. De nos jours, je le reviens juste et parcourir les sites francophones, mais j'ai peur que j'oublierai tout. Honnêtement je devrais commencer à regarder des vidéos français et tout ça mais je suis trop paresseux. >__<

De toute façon, comment allez-vous, /lang/ ?

>>70856671
win them over with your personality.

>>70846927
tenpo pini lili la toki mi li kama weka tan lawa mi. mi kama sona e toki wan taso. ;-;

>>70859868
hahaha
tenpo ni la mi kama sona e toki luka
toki pona li pona. Mi pilin e ni: sina ken kama sona e toki pona!

In real life, is anyone part of a foreign language club? What activities do you do?

Or is that too normie?

>>70860300
pona! toki pona li pona tawa mi, taso tenpo mute ala la mi ken kepeken ona.

sina kama sona e toki "Sign Language" anu seme?

>>70860435
i do not think the people at a language club would be normies

>>70860510
So you actually go outside, and meet with other people once a week or once a month, and do foreign language activities?

>>70846927
Anki.
That is all.

>>70860435
There's hardly any clubs here in Australia. I hate it.
There were none in high school, and the ones in my uni are only for getting as drunk as humanly possible without dying.
In Japan, I loved the language clubs at the high school I went on exchange to
>>70860456
>taso tenpo mute ala la mi ken kepeken ona.
Lon ma ni, sina ken kepeken ona tawa mi en tawa jan ante
>>70860510
this desu
All language autists are autists

>>70860740
>the ones in my uni are only for getting as drunk as humanly possible without dying
those are the best m8

>>70860782
redpill me on uni clubs
I'm in my 3rd year at La Trobe (The most socialist uni in Australia).
There is quite a few political-based clubs at my uni, but the most conservative one is the Labor party

Redpill me on how to start a Nationalist Socialist Anti-Degeneracy club at uni

>>70860823
disguise it as a pissup club

>>70860833
good on ya mum, tip top's the one, good on ya mum.

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>>70861493
I want to fuck Kim Kardashian also

Why should I bother learning a language when everyone these days gets taught English from primary school upwards?

I speak English and learnt Dutch which adds to this generalisation considering I'm yet to meet a Dutch person who doesn't speak better English than 90% of Australians.

>>70861541
to occupy your free time with something that is remotely useful

>>70858968
Eh, ma situation est pareille, mais j'ai terminée Duolingo il y a presque une année. La seule chose que je fais pour m'entraîner est encore Duolingo, mon Français n'a pas developpé mais au moin il est encore suffisament frais dans ma tête.

>>70861541
>everyone speaks my language, why should I improve myself

For that exact reason. There are other people who do exactly what you can do plus more.

>>70860740
What do language autists do at a "language club"

>>70861935
there'll always be people who can do more, that isn't inspiration that's statistics.

>>70862049
so you don't see any point in being better than most people?

>>70862166
I don't see any point in being..

>>70860740
pona. mi lon ma Oselija la mi toki tawa sina.

>>70860740
>>70862310
Fugg I misread what you said.
mi lukin ike e toki sina.

>>70862213
oh

Any tips on learning Russian verbs?
It seems for one word there's like three different translations all with a slightly differently nuanced meaning and aspects.

>>70862310
>>70862359
No problem, I had no idea how to translate "this place" or "this thread", so I just went with "lon ma ni". Not sure if I should've had a "la" at the end or if the lon was sufficient.
>>70862049
>no matter what you do, someone will always be better than you at it
>so you should just sit in a corner, don't even bother killing yourself, because someone can do that better too

>>70858968
http://savoirs.rfi.fr/fr/apprendre-enseigner/langue-francaise/journal-en-fran%C3%A7ais-facile

is memrise any good?

>>70866939
Memrise is pretty good for building vocab and shit like that. But aside from that, it's not very useful. Some people will try use it to learn basic grammar, but it won't get you past an A1 level of grammar.
So stick to vocab on it, and you'll do great

Just learned that Greek is harder than Russian, Hindi, Turkish, etc. Fuck :(

>>70868988
how so?

>>70868988
Harder than Russian and Hindi?
I'm skeptical on that claim

>>70869249

Greek is a difficult language to learn, and it’s rated the second hardest language to learn by language professors. It’s easy to learn to speak simply, but it’s quite hard to get it down like a native. It’s the rare second language learner who attains native competence. Like English, the spelling doesn’t seem to make sense, and you have to memorize many words. Further, there is the unusual alphabet. However, the orthography is quite rational, about as good as that of Spanish. Whether or not Greek is an irregular language is controversial. It has that reputation, but some say it is not as irregular as it seems.

Greek has four cases: nominative, accusative, genitive and vocative (used when addressing someone). There are three genders: masculine, feminine and neuter. Nouns have several different declension patterns determined by the ending on the noun. Verb conjugations are about as complicated as in Romance. Greek does retain the odd aorist tense. In addition, it has the odd middle voice and optative mood. Greek syntax is quite complicated.

Greek gets a 5 rating, extremely difficult to learn.

https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2009/12/01/more-on-the-hardest-languages-to-learn/

For reference Turkish gets a 3.5, Russian a 4, MSA gets a 5, Hindi gets a 4

>>70869478
>and it’s rated the second hardest language to learn by language professors
Obviously I can't speak objectively on this, because I've never studied Greek. But I will guarantee my life on the fact that both Japanese and Thai are harder than Greek.
Obviously many obscure languages like some Australian Aborigional languages are harder, but I assume we're only really speaking about perhaps the top ~50 most spoken languages

>>70865242
for this thread I'd go with "lon linja ni". As for the la matter, you put your lon-construction at the end of your sentence, so la is completely irrelevant here.

>sina ken kepeken ona tawa mi en tawa jan ante lon linja ni

>>70846927
useless Old-Church Slavonic and Novgorodian

>autism desu

Are there only 20 Norwegian speakers on the entire HelloTalk app?

>>70865242
That's correct, although to say "here" you can just shorten it to "lon ni".

For thread, I use "linja" or "linja toki" lol.

>>70846927
how to fall for the hedonism meme: the image