Africa

hmmmm

their dumb

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>>70721087
i dont know how advanced they were

>>70721087
Because niggers

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>>70721905
RRRRACISTS GET OUT :D :D

>>70721087
Australia didn't either, Abos were always hunter gatherers without statelike entities that did not practise agriculture.

Nordics are dumb

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>>70721129

>>70721905
Can we at least tone the racism down during black history month?

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>>70722039
This, mediterranians were the smart ones.

>>70721087
Because the white men came and stole their accomplishments, enslaving them :^(

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>>70722206
FUG Ethiopia amirite? :D

>>>>70721087
They did, most of those civilizations were already in decline though by the time Europe showed up and knocked them down another peg.

Also recording history via oral tradition was a very bad choice.

>>70722454
BOY YOU GOD

>>70722002
Same for Scandinavia 2bh

>>70721482
holy shit is no one going to reply to this? /pol/ eternaly BTFO

>>70722285
we wuz med and shieet

>>70722761
Don't be a Penisia.

>>70721087
>Why did literally all subsaharan Africans remain simple hunter-gatherers until European contact?

Barely and I mean barely anyone h&g back then during first contact completely.

>They have all those natural resources. Why didn't they AT LEAST develop metalworking?

They did if you bother actually use Google. You have technological resources and books at your disposal why aren't you using those resources?

>>70722871
>>70722285
Where's green?

>>70722871
whad dou yu miin ,?

>not even ships holy hell

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>>70722923
I'm waiting for him. Yes.

>>70721087
honestly, they lived a simpler life and were probably a lot happier

>>70723227
t-romantic guy

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>>70721087
it's full of niggers

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>Why did literally all subsaharan Africans remain simple hunter-gatherers until European contact?

They didn't. Agriculture was independently discovered and widely practiced throughout many areas in Sub-Saharan Africa, and many complex political structures such as cities, kingdoms, and empires developed.

>>70721087
>Why did literally all subsaharan Africans remain simple hunter-gatherers until European contact?
Ethiopia and Nubia have had civilizations longer than us to be fair, even if they weren't that impressive.

>>70721087
West coast and somalia managed somewhat in places, even if it was shit

Subsaharan african "civilisations" were just awful, maybe because the xhosa and bantu africans are even more subhuman?
Maybe because there is no motive to make civilisations or predisposition towards waiting and planning there when you have unlimited grassy plains and whatever you want if you run after it and stab it?

>>70722985
West Africa has very limited natural harbours due to lack of indentation.

>>70723877
That's complete bs though anon but nice try using audacity to make up for your posts lack of substance.

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>>70723877
>white people claim they evolved better long term planning abilities
>yet their welfare states are all racking up huge amounts of debt because of short sightedness

>>70721087
well, since you asked about all of africa..
what are egypt and carthage?

>>70723448
>all those overlapping lines
>big empty spaces

I can't take this pseudointellectual shit seriously. They didn't into civilization becuase they nigged too much.

>Why didn't they AT LEAST develop metalworking?

They did though, some West African peoples even had a god of metal working

They dumb lol

>>70726604
Also Haya people probably had better steel than the rest of the world for centuries
>They are believed to be some of the earliest inhabitants in the area to practice metal work which allowed them to create various new forms of pottery.
>these furnaces were carbon-dated and were found to be as old as 2000 years.
>Steel of similar quality did not appear in Europe until several centuries later.
Look it up

Because they're a bunch o fniggers barely a step above animals but not worth as much as one. Niggers can barely be considered human because of how much like animals they look.
Look at Mesoamerica, that's complete isolation not having cradles of civilization to your east and north yet amerndians built better societies while not even having livestock animals or horses. Africans were the only ones to not domesticate the dog. Whats the excuses for this ?

>tl;dr
niggers are subhuman

they did, much later than the rest of the world probably cuz they all lived tribes isolated from eachother and the rest of the world

better question is, why isn't the country Ghana in the same place as the kingdom Ghana was?

>>70723448
This

the Igbo are very interesting

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igbo-Ukwu

/pol/ just fuck off

>t-they did something literally the whole world did but just decided to stop there, therefore they are smart
nuhuh sweetie

>>70722002
Australian Aboriginals have most ancient cultural civilisation on Earth :^)

>>70727194
you americans suffer from blacks there that make you a nigger hater

>>70727340
name a one igbo scientist

>>70727402
Not possible due simply to the fact that they live in Australia.

How come some manlet natives completely cut off from every civilization to ever exist did a better job then some africans close to great civs like egypt and Carthage

>>70727582
Ha ha got him there!

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>>70727628
Name ONE white American inventor.

>>70728449
Nikola Tesla and Henry Ford

>>70728719
I dunno man, google turns up nothing when I search them.

Instead it asks me "Did you mean Lewis Howard Latimer?".

Those inventors you mentioned must be pretty fringe.

>>70721087
>Why was Africa the only continent which didn't develop its own civilisation?
>what was mali
>what was songhai
>what were the zulu
>what was FUCKING EGYPT

>>70721482
>ALL European written languages are the direct descendants of Levantine writting system
Very interesting.

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They did develope metalwork

>>70729044
> t. Jared M. Diamond

>Egypt
Kek nice try

>>70729146
>implying they didn't learn the trade from colonial masters

>>70729282
Are you denying that Egypt is Africa or that it was civilized. Because it certainly is both even if not subsaharan line they did have a nubian king once

>>70721087
because everytime you have to cross a desert you end up smarter

>be a nigger
>cross sahara
>become arab
>be an loo
>cross gobi
>become asian

>>70729282
t. /pol/

>>70729312
Bronze workart is precolonial

http://www.museumofafricanart.org/en/bronze-sculpture.html

>>70729312
Those Ife terracotta works date back up to 1000 AD so no

Because being an "advanced civilisation" for the sole purpose of being an advanced civilisation is barely useless cause we all gonna die whatever how "smart" we are. African people (sorry for not using nigger), maybe just don't need our tech and i don't think that makes them less happy than us or something. We love to contemplate people that we think are less useful than us because for some biological reason we think that the circle of life is a giant dick contest.

>>70729351
We must cross space.

>>70729424
T. Heart of Darkness

>>70729457
It worth the read? Never heard about this book

>>70729424
Nigga they are starving to death and eating mud if they are happy like that they are literally dumb

>>70729527
>Belgian
This comment made my fucking day.

>>70729565
Change nothing about what i said. Some EU people think that brazil people are useless shit and you think that african people are useless shit. We're all the nigger of someone else whatever we are.

>>70729625
We are tho, and i can guarantee you nobody here is happy like you fuckers love to say

>>70729595
I've never learned to read that kind of books and i have a very little culture about the kind of stuff my "ancestors" did in africa, just some basic informations about congo

>>70729527
It's worth a read, or you can see a more modern American film version that's different in setting but, has very similar themes called Apocalypse Now

>>70729641
>Keep being angry on the internet
Now I understand why you love to hate africa :^)

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>>70727582
Philip Emeagwali literally won the Gordon Bell Prize

>>70729736
>on the internet
youre just a retard that goes ''oh they are just happy'' while having everything and they have to fight to survive everyday

you know what's funny? starvation in africa is mainly caused by colonization and not their lack of technology

they weren't nearly as hungry, had as many diseases or had this much war before euros kicked them out of the coast, turned them against each other and created their own geographical delimitations.

>>70729704
I'll order the book tomorrow and whatch the movie this night, thanks

>>70729790
I never said they're happy in an absolute way dumbass, i said that i think that they're not less happy than the rest of the world. And perhaps, i'm wrong, it happens

>>70729761
I don't know who that is so it doesn't count

>>70729804
>The Jesuits were the first to bring cinchona to Europe. The Spanish were aware of the medicinal properties of cinchona bark by the 1570s or earlier: Nicolás Monardes (1571) and Juan Fragoso (1572) both described a tree that was subsequently identified as the cinchona tree and whose bark was used to produce a drink to treat diarrhea.

>Quinine also played a significant role in the colonization of Africa by Europeans. Quinine had been said to be the prime reason Africa ceased to be known as the "white man's grave".

>>70729912
Yeah im pretty sure they just die with joy when some crazy warlord come to eat their hearts, just like a swede when he gets back home from work

>>70729952
Dude you need to jack off or something. Calm yo tits

>>70721087
Read the book "Guns, Germs and Steel". It's far from perfect but it gives a general overview of why some places developed faster then others.

The main thing about Africa is that its geography made technology and useful plants and animals spread much slower to it that it did to for example Europe.

>>70726952

in historical context 'believed' basically means 'we have no proof'

>>70721087
They did. Much of Africa was roughly at Iron Age or Medieval levels before Europe came in.

>>70726496
Europe's borders weren't the cleanest back in the Middle Ages either.

>>70729952
pretty sure swedes kill themselves more though

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HOL DA FUK UP

>>70721087
tigers, lions, hippos

>>70721087
Read a book

People throughout the continent were agrarian. Even when the Bantu colonizers brought plant farming with them to South Africa the native Khoisan peoples already practiced goat herding.

There is a correlation to technological increase based on colder weather, there's been a few papers about it.
Most super hot places on earth developed slowly.

>>70730226
Sources?

>>70723448
Maybe it's because those empires didn't exist all at the same time and the borders changed.

>>70727598
Amerindians weren't totally cut off. Mesoamerica had a higher population density than most of Africa at the time. Higher population density = more urbanization = more specialization of labor. Once they had agriculture for a sufficiently long amount of time, agriculture and civilization started to diffuse from mesoamerica. Agriculture and civilization also started in South America in Peru, look up Norte Chico.

And Africans did learn a lot from Egypt. Nubia copied a lot of culture from Egypt. Ethiopia also started developing way before the rest of sub Saharan Africa because they were close to the middle East.

>>70730500
If you bothered to look at the top of the image you'd notice that the map covers all the time from the Carthaginians trough the Umayyads

Do you have some notion that Europeans borders would look any cleaner and non-overlapping than African polities in the same time frame?

>>70730500
>In the history of Europe, the Middle Ages or medieval period lasted from the 5th to the 15th century.
>Leonard Digges invented the theodolite in 1551.

>>70730363
Civilization started in hot climates, see Egypt, Indus Valley, Mesopotamia, etc.

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>>70721087
guess you never read about the empire of Mali?

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>>70730607
Those all had rivers tho

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>>70730621
map

>>70730672
So?

>>70730607
Something clearly changed after Rome.

>>70730621

>super mud hut

>>70730566
>Maybe it's because those empires didn't exist all at the same time and the borders changed.

I never claimed otherwise? Was only disputing the claim that Africa never developed civilization or has always been just hunter-gatherers

>>70730706

*Greece

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Takes like 5 secs to google this shit

>>70729282
granted, they werent african in the culturan sense, but all memes aside the ancients were black up until alexander the great; even then, only the pharaos were white

>>70730761
>dude what if layers?

>>70730747
Woops, I meant to reply to
>>70726496
Sorry

>>70721129
Two words. In two fucking words you managed to fuck up your own native language. How? HOW??? How can you possibly be this stupid?

Oh right, gay Mexican Muslims coming in and stealing all the good jobs and education, right? You are the fucking definition of pleb. I'd say kill yourself, but then I wouldn't have anyone to flip my burgers for me.

>>70721087
>Why was Africa the only continent which didn't develop its own civilisation
um hello????

>>70721482
I like to think I'm pretty good at abstract thinking, but sometimes I read shit like this and realize how many assumptions I make about basic shit that I've taken for granted, like language and society.

Great fucking read. Gonna save and do some more digging when I'm less high but very interesting if true.

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>>70721482
>almost all of sub-saharan africa is at a level that europeans reached in the mid-20th century right after being destroyed by ww2
wow really makes you think huh

ITT: /pol/ getting BTFO

>>70721482
Well but he literally didn't even talk about the african civilizations (i was thinking the screen was about this)
also it's easy to blame whites for every cultural problems between the differents tribes who practiced slavery and tribal wars even before the europeans make contacts and use the "divide and conquers"
also the rwanda genocide has nothing to do with colonization, it was just two ethnicities in rivalry, because differences'n sheit.

>>70721087
If not for Romans, Sweden would achieve approximately same level of development as africans

>>70730363
Nah, not not necessarily cold weather, it's seasons

There isn't any big difference in seasons in the tropics compared to the temperate and subtropical zones

>>70721087
Africa had advanced civilizations in the north back when Europe was full of unenlightened people. Europe didn't become relevant until we gained Chinese sailing technology. China would have stayed the largest world power if it wasn't for Neoconfucianism.

>>70721129
their dumb brains^

>>70721087
No sand people to give them civilization like europe.
Reminder that civilization never ever developed independently in europe at all and if it wasn't due to Mesopotamian influence they would probably most likely still be africa tier

>>70721482
It's always good to see people like this.

>>70732856
No it had to do with colonization because the colonial powers in the area cemented the differences and enforced it an encouraging it to grow over the years anon. It's Rwanda 101 and you'd have to be a retard to not see it. Hutu and Tutsi's are the same people and not even separate ethnic groups, only with colonization did it become so and even the colonial authorities FORCED people to wear ID cards since even they can't tell the difference.

>>70730828
Is this b8
can't tell

>>70734795
Genetically they are nearly the exact same due to long as fuck admixture way way. Very slight difference but Tutsi's have more Nilo-Saharan in them which is hilarious because the genetic factor that was jerked off by Rwandan's colonial rulers was that Horn of Africa admixture is why the Tutsi's were the better people but instead the only difference is a very small one from a people that as far as to the racial beliefs back then back then was just another nigger!

>>70730700
You need rivers/good sources of water to start shit at all with transportation and maritime activity.

>>70730076
The confirmation is pretty much confirmed though.

>>70734962
Southern and Central Africa is abundant with resources and don't forget all the great lakes, yet they're the most backward and uncivilised of the lot

>>70734930
Egyptians have a lot of cultural things stuff like that is indigenous/Not Arab to them but it doesn't really get noted because plebs only see the Arab part.

>>70735082
The Zulu kingdom was pretty interesting.