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Are you for or against a Nordic Union? Why? Why not?

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Are you for or against a Nordic Union? Why? Why not?
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>>70701678
Scandinavian*, So the Khanate wouldnt Be involved in your circlejerk
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>>70701678
Potentially for. But a union with three monarchs couldn't work. There would have to be just one or no monarch. And while I think that will probably happen anyway, I certainly wouldn't want to ditch the knug, just for the sake of getting along with the rest of them.
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>>70701730
Fine we don't want you either mongol
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is finland nordic or not? on the korean web, finland is not the nordic but scandinavia
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>>70701820
It's considered nordic. Scandinavian would be a stretch since we don't own more than few eckers of the tip of the mountain range.
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>>70701755
choke on your legos cunt
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>>70701820
Finland is indisputably Nordic. Just like Greenland. They have culture from Sweden, even if it's not the dominant culture atm. It's absolutely not Scandinavian.
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>>70701678
Awful idea, would be a Swedish-led nightmare since they have twice the population of any other Nordick country
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>>70701896
All the tidbits of culture are indisputably nordic. Only our charactristics and pre-historic culture differ from swedish one. And eing that we were a peasant part of the kingdom and frontierland we have emphasized the rural cultural aesthetics.

tl:dr we have less of the grandeur of swedish culture and more of the one from the common folk.
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Against, other nordics cant stand us for some reason and we cant stand them either
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>>70701965

Holy shit what a cuck.
>we iz nordick cuz red houses n shit!
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>>70701930
Ok, a federation then, with powerful local governments?
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>>70701753
Frederik X will be the greatest king of a unifed Scandinia.
Norway's king is already Danish, he can be a Duke in the Dukedom of Norway. Your king is French, he too can also be Duke in the Dukedom of Sweden.
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>>70702018
That's not the point you idiot. Now you go and tell me extensively what is our common culture based on, architecturally, religiously, foodwise, life philosophywise etc. And don't say finnish since such term originated just 200 years ago.
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>>70702073
Would be incredibly unpopular.
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>>70702084

Our """common culture""" is based on Lutheran crap.
Lutheranism was a mistake as was Catholicism and Christianity in general.
We should have been pagans all along.
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>>70701753
why? EU works with several monarchs, although economy-wise i don't see the point of the union since their combined economy is still small and irrelevant compared to other unions.
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Against
Trying to force Africans together has proven disastrous in the past
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Oh it's Mr.Kang again, Everyone move along this nutjob provides nothing intelligable to any discussion so it's just best to not give him any yous
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>>70702084
>what is our common culture based on
getting cucked by christianity
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>>70702158
>EU works
t. jean-claude juncker
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>>70702177

Eli argumentit loppu.
Perinteisellä suomensukuisten kansojen uskonnolla ei muuten ole mitään tekemistä skandinaavien kanssa.
Intialaisten ehkä osittain.
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>>70702177
Oh look, it's kangs arch nemesis, Caj-Göran Cuckström. What a surprise.
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>>70702111
I agree.
We should, however, abandon our membership in the EU and make a Kalmarunion on the same terms as EU, but with less bureaucracy, while maintaining a trade deal with EU countries, like Norway do.
We should also make a shared army. Literally Kalmarunion, but with the royal families staying put.
1 vote per country, which would be each country's leader and every decision would have to be unanimous
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>>70702213
He's pretty based though
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>>70702262
nice try EUIDF
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>>70702262
gas yourself
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>>70702229
That could work, assuming the difference in populations don't become even greater.
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>>70702214
>Nuh uh we don't share anything with our surroundings i come from da special snowflake

>Ukko ("old man") was a god of the sky, weather, and the crops. He was also the most significant god in Finnish mythology and the Finnish word for thunder, "ukkonen" (little Ukko) or "ukonilma" (Ukko's weather), is derived from his name. In the Kalevala he is also called "ylijumala" (overgod, Supreme God), as he is the god of things of the sky. He makes all his appearances in myths solely by natural effects when invoked.

>Ukko's origins are probably in Baltic Perkons and the older Finnish sky god Ilmarinen. Also Thor is related to Perkons.[citation needed] While Ukko took Ilmarinen's position as the Sky God, Ilmarinen's destiny was to turn into a smith-hero, or the god of the rock. In the epic poetry of the Kalevala, Ilmarinen is credited with forging the stars on the dome of the sky and the magic mill of plenty, the Sampo.

>Ukko's weapon was a hammer, axe or sword, by which he struck lightning. While Ukko mated with his wife Akka ("old woman"), there was a thunderstorm. He created thunderstorms also by driving with his chariot in clouds. The original weapon of Ukko was probably the boat-shaped stone-axe of battle axe culture. Ukko's hammer, the Vasara (means merely "hammer"), probably meant originally the same thing as the boat-shaped stone axe. While stone tools were abandoned in the metal ages, the origins of stone-weapons became a mystery. They were believed to be weapons of Ukko, stone-heads of striking lightnings. Shamans collected and held stone-axes because they were believed to hold many powers to heal and to damage.
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>>70702350

WE WUZ PERKONS AND SHIT PERKELE

Volgan lähistön baltit ja iranit eivät kyllä olleet skandicuckejja nähneetkään.
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No
because it is fucking retarded and it would fall apart in a month
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I'm against this flag. Seriously, it looks awful. And other Nordic flags are aesthetic af.
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>>70702436
>The name continues PIE *Perkwunos, cognate to *perkwus, a word for "oak", "fir" or "wooded mountain". The Proto-Baltic name *Perkūnas can be reconstructed with certainty. Slavic Perun is a related god, but not an etymologically precise match. The names Fjörgynn as a name for Odin, and Fjörgyn, mother of Thor, have been proposed as cognates. Finnish Perkele, a name of Ukko, is considered a loan from Baltic.

your mindless babbling provides nothing.
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What should the capital be? I vote for Göteborg.
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>>70702491
Århus
Already capital of Europe this year =)
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>>70702481

Mikä vitun "mindless babbling"?
Skandicuckit eivät liity suomensukuiseen uskoon vaikka ovatkin ukrainalaisten raiskaamia.
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>>70701678
If that means Swedish poison leaking into Finland, then against.

Don't give a fuck otherwise.
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>>70702444
What about this?
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>>70701678
Whats the point? You are all in the EU already (or in EEA, at least)
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>>70702651
eu really sucks ass
fuck you
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>>70702651
We weren't big on joining. Leaving probably wouldn't be controversial unless fucking right-populists decided to endorse it and scare the mainstream parties off.
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>>70702700
elaborate please
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>>70702760
but what would be the point of leaving?
Even all Scandi countries combined wouldn't be strong enough to oppose USA or China
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If we look past superficial crap like red houses Finland is more similar to Japan than Sweden
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>>70702884
We could form a Nordic Union and still be in EU though, since EU isn't a country.
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>>70702969
sure you could
but i dont really see whats the point
after all, you are all different countries with distinct culture and languages
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>>70702916
This, read The Finnuit by Edward Dutton
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>>70703021
Hogwash and pseudoscience,

read https://mundaneman.wordpress.com/2009/10/20/edward-dutton-the-finnuit/
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>>70701678

Can't really make up mind. Pros and cons from a finnish perspective:

Pros:

>Stronger economy
>Stronger military
>More relevant on global scale
>Bigger market for finnish products
>Finland wouldn't have to buy energy from russia anymore

Cons:

>All the other cunts are scandinavian and have somewhat similar language. Finnish language could be in danger.

>Who would decide where the money for infa, education etc. goes? Would Sweden, as the biggest member of the union, have more votes than other cunts?

>Could it happen that people from Finland would start moving to more central parts of the union, Stockholm for example?
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>>70703021
>>70703089

Edward Dutton is right that Finns aren't European but he's fundamentally a racist and sees Uralic people as inherently inferior and weird to himself.
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>>70703366
>Either a standard Nordic/Scandinavian language would be created, or we would just keep using the same language as we used before.

>Every country gets 1 vote.

>Yes, would that be a problem?
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>>70703089
We were pastoral metallurgists for pretty long, something Scandicucks never knew. They just went straight from huntergathering to farming. We're nothing alike in origin and soul. The only thing that connects us is Lutheran culture, architecture, customs and religion.
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No reason to be different countries, you all are sons of Odin <3
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If you make a Nordic union, we will make a union with Poland!
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>>70703490
>The only thing that connects us is Lutheran culture, architecture, customs and religion

As in practically everything that is relevant culturewise these days. Your pointless we wuzzing and isolationist attitude serves no-ones favourably.

>>70703463

>Yes, would that be a problem?
Essentially, yes. Ruralization is a problem and kills industry, services and overall economy by focusing emigration too hardly on one urbanized spot.
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>>70703631
did you ask poland about it or its world war time again?
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>>70703657

t. Duttonist

Everyone can see through your propaganda.
You'll only manage to turn more and more Finns against your Duttonist bullshit so please keep posting.
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>>70703631
It will be returned to us, or suffer the consequences.
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>>70702579
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4697871,00.html

lol
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>>70703657
>isolationist
More like self-preservationist.
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No. Because fuck having to submit to the retarded swedish majority.
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>>70703463

>Yes, would that be a problem?

Yes I think it would if people were to migrate in large numbers. Finland could end up being an entire country of backwards countryside.
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>>70703784
+1

Based Denmark
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>>70703738
Wow. Finland wtf?
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>>70703753
Kukaan sua täällä yritä tuhota, varsinkaan sun naapurit. Täytyy kyllä olla jokin vialla kun näkee vihollisia joka puolella ja onnistuu kääntämään kaikki itseään vastaan. En mä tästä rupee enää uudestaan väittelemään, menkää vaikka mämmiin puhumaan turhaa sontaanne.
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>>70702579
WTF I love Israel now!
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>>70703753
>>70703784
>>70703815
>>70703366
What is this? We would never oppress anyone, the way Finns oppress Finland-Swedes.
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>>70703815
>implying it isn't already
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>>70703829
>r- ruotsi oli pasifistinen imperiumi kuten on vieläkin ja haluaa suomelle vain hyvää
Mee nyt vittuun siitä hurrisympatioines
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>>70703889
lel
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>>70703892

>Danish banter is this obvious

Didn't see that one coming
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>>70703738
best ally. are they going to bring military personnel to ensure that the new borders are not violated?
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>>70703927
>nykyruotsi
>Imperiumi

Mitäppä jos ensiksi käyt vaikka ulkona hengitätä raikasta ilmaa. ja käyt vaikka wikipediasta katsomassa minkälainen hallintomalli ruotsissa on.
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pls make this happen so I can legally work and live in Finland
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>>70703957
And what did this person do in practice? I've never heard of him. Or is the absence of his historical relevance one of the fennoswedish tricks again?
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>>70704001
Kaltaisillasi ihmisillä tuntuu olevan hirveä hinku Ruotsin valta-aseman palauttamiseen. Liittovaltio, jossa skandinaavit ovat viisi kertaa lukuisempia ei voi päättyä hyvin Suomen kannalta.
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>>70704040
Swedish People's Party of Finland's highest award is named after him. Also they call him the party's spiritual father.
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>>70704097
Ovatko nämä skandit nyt sitten joku yksi entitieetti jolla on yksi vai onko tämä tapasi maalata lisää piruja taivaalle?

Vai meneekö tämä sellaiseen rajuun mitä jossitteluun nyt osaltasi? Ethän sinä hyvä mies tiedä paskanvertaakaan mistään mitä täällä jauhat, vedät asioita kontekstista ja jauhat samoista asioista kuin hullu.

sisäinen keittiöpsykologini sanoo että ei sulla kaikki ihan hyvin mee.
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>>70704034
You can do that already. It's super easy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIu9l0-2aKw
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>>70704184

Jatka vaan tota suomalaisvastaista paskapostausta.
Se saa kunkun jutut näyttämää järkeviltä.
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An eu like nordic union would be alright
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sure but atleast change the fucking flag, that's god awfully glaring.
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>>70704184
Pan-skandinavismihan on ihan oikea ideologia jota ei olisi hankala elvyttää moisessa unionissa. Siinä sitten olisikin suomen kieli ja kulttuuri vaarassa jos suurin osa unionin kansalaisista kääntyy meitä vastaan.
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>>70704277
Suomalaisvastaista?

>>70704335
Juuh no sittenhän Suomi vaan lähtee moisesta pois. Mutta yrittäen maalata nykyajan demokraattisia liberaalivaltioita jonain rotuteorioitsina jotka haluavat vain pahaa suomelle ei tietääkseni ole mikään realistinen näkemys nykyään eikä varmaan tulevaisuudessakaan.
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>>70704417

>As in practically everything that is relevant culturewise these days. Your pointless we wuzzing and isolationist attitude serves no-ones favourably.

Isolaatio vain ja ainoastaan Ruotsista näyttää olevan sun ongelmas.
Miksi on ihan pakko juuri Skandinaavien kanssa kaveereta? Nehän olivat ihan suunnaton riesa suomalaisille vielä 1880-luvullakin ja tätä et voi kieltää.

https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Montgomery

>Montgomery ja muut ruotsinkieliset liberaalit pyrkivät politiikassa torjumaan epämieluisia esityksiä varsinkin vetoamalla juuri Suomen perustuslakeihin. Näin saatiin torjuttua muun muassa 1882 Yrjö-Koskisen esittämä suomen julistaminen maan viralliseksi kieleksi; Montgomery vetosi kyseenalaiseen laintulkintaan, jonka mukaan suomi oli oikeudenkäymiskaaressa mainittu tuomioistuimissa kielletty vieras kieli. Montgomery erosi prokuraattorin virasta vuonna 1886 keisarin annettua käskykirjeen suomen ja ruotsin kielen käytöstä virastoissa.

Skandinavismia pitää karttaa kuin ruttoa.
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>>70704417
>Juuh no sittenhän Suomi vaan lähtee moisesta pois
Ihanteellisestihan se kävisi noin helposti, mutta tässä skenaariossa integraatio on viety niin pitkälle etteivät suomalaiset enää kykene estämään skandeja pitämästä meistä pakolla kiinni, koska suomalaisten omat asevoimat ynnä muut itsenäiset instituutiot ovat lakkautettu federalisaation edistämiseksi. Ja sitten pakkoasimilaation (ellei jopa pakkohävityksen) seurauksena Suomen kieli ja kulttuuri hiljalleen lakkaisi olemasta.
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>>70703008
>you are all different countries with distinct culture and languages
You're only technically correct. No, Swedish, Danish, and Norwegian culture is not all the same nor are our languages the same, but we share a common cultural heritage and history together. Our languages are also mutually intelligible to each other, maybe with the exception of Danish to Swedish and vice versa, but in written form we can all understand each other just fine.
>but i dont really see whats the point
What's the point of the EU? What's the point of anything?
We're much more at home in a Nordic Union than an European Union.
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We can have a union but Swedes will have to remove muslims and Finland will have to unlearn mongolian.
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>>70704735
>but Swedes will have to remove muslims
That goes for you and Norway too.
>and Finland will have to unlearn mongolian
Don't you fucking dare say anything about the Finnish language when yours sounds like someone is choking on a big potato.
Finland deserves their own language as much as you do.
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>>70704735
>Finland will have to unlearn mongolian.
aar juu kreisi?
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>>70703957
What nationality do you think the person who wrote that was?
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>>70704798
Danish sounds like swedish while choking on a potato but swedish sounds like danish while choking on a dick.

Also Finnish is fit only for throat-singing and striking fear into the hearts of the chinese. It has no place in a scandinavian union.
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>>70701678
Only if estonia can join it
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>>70701753
Bitch, please. We have fucking NINE (9) monarchies and we are still functioning as a proper state. You can copy our style of Elective Monarchy.
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>>70705758
>It has no place in a scandinavian union.
It's a good thing we're not discussing a Scandinavian union, but a NORDIC union.
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>>70704199
please tell me that the "new swedes" dont know about this
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>>70705761
Estonia is our only brother nation, they are more precious to us than to anyone else. Keep them out of this.
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>>70705874
I doubt it. It's not taught in school or anything. I just thought that I might want to get finnish citizenship one day, and when I searched I found it was pretty easy. And easier still to just live and work there.
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Im for it
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>>70705855
Any worthwhile Nordic Union must be based on the subjugation of the non-scandinavian untermensch.
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>>70706236
Of course a Dane would sooner make plans for how to exterminate Finns than to befriend them.
This is why you lost Skåne and why you're never getting it back.
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>>70701678
I'm only here to say that this yellow-red flag looks like shit.
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>>70706275

Getting exterminated unironically sounds more fun than having to speak Swedish
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>>70706285
You subhuman baboon. You literal nigger.
How dare you speak, you swarthy jungle monkey. How dare you open your big lipped, rim encrusted, menthol cigarette smelling mouth?
You are human trash, Diego Tyrone LeShawn de Maradona. Universally despised, derided and mocked. Your nationality and skin tone offers no hope to the world that South America can ever prosper. Crawl back in to the Brazilian jungle you came out of, you literal orangutan.
I hope you decide to sail your grandfathers skip to the Falklands and rape some sheep, as is in the negroes nature. It would still be the whitest pussy you ever had. Give Nigel and Robert a chance for some target practice, your sole use to the world. Argentinians obsession with a few windswept islands in the Atlantic is hilarious but sad. Coincidentally its the only worthwhile contribution Argentina has made to the medical field. The MUH LAS MALVINAS sentiment in the average negro Argentinian is both an early warning sign of autism in children, and early on set Alzheimer's in adults.
Take your black hairy fingers off your keyboard, and never talk about the human species again, you mockery of our supposed shared ancestor.. No amount of olive oil and wheat flour slabbed on your face every morning will make you white. It's about as delusional of an idea as your daydreams of European heritage.
You nigger.
You make Bolivia look like a beacon of civilisation.
You are the Baltimore of South America.
Go fertilise the pampas with you and your families corpses, its the best you can hope for in life. For the first time in your life, nigger, you have a job making food for beings vastly superior to yourself. Uruguayan cattle. Coincidentally, it would be the first time an Argentinian "man" provided for a family.
Die, Diego. No one would miss you. Except for Australian Aboriginals, who now would have no one to make them look good.
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>>70706317
I never said anything along those lines. You can keep speaking Finnish all you want.
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>>70706352
Is this a new pasta? Sound like that Cossack Banter.
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>>70706352
Ebin
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>>70701753
Hunger games for the monarchs when?
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>>70706236
Eternal dane strikes again.

Remember who Hitler befriended and who he subjugated before talking about racialism
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@70706236

There will be no subjugation. We either exist as an independent nation or don't exist at all. You will have to slaughter every single one of us, women and children included, if you want to claim our clay as part of your union.
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>>70706634
>Russia

a bit scary 2bh
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>>70706659
It's a disgrace that only 70-80% of our men have gone through conscription. It should be at least 95%. A nation that is surrounded by enemies needs a strong army with lots of manpower, especially when they're both willing to fight.
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>>70706818
""""""surrounded""""""
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>>70706990
I don't know whether you're "enemies" or not (probably not), but what history has told us is better to keep it ourselves and be cautious towards bigger powers.

We could definitely cooperate and be friends with the Scandinavian union, but we could never be part of the Nordic union.
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>>70707200
We would refuse any union which didn't include Finland, as we have in the past.

Also if you're being attacked from the west, it just means you're being flanked by the Russians
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>>70707200
yes we could
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>>70707234
>Also if you're being attacked from the west

You can never trust the Norwegians. They might be ((Anglos)) in disguise.
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There really is no need if we have the EU.
However if the EU were to collapse and we are well past the immigration crisis maybe.

There is something extremely cool about being in a single scandinavian nation being able to travel through Sweden and Norway speaking your own language yet they can still understand you.

Scandinavian interests would be looked at more on the world map. Plus vikangz n shit.
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>>70701678
D*ne genocide first
after that It'd be great
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>>70707299
>if the EU were to collapse
Might be happening soon so I think might as well prepare for it early.
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>>70705761
Estonia is an african country
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>>70707299
Nobody understands danish unless it's in writing.
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Where is Kang?
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>>70707440
here. Just say something like "Finland is eastern sweden" or "we are the same" and he'll sperg out for sure.
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>>70707434
Haha yea we got the potato in our mouthes alright.
Still tho, the thought of a Scandinavian Union sounds cool. A lot of stuff would have to be done for it to work though honestly sounds like a headache also.
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>>70707503
He is a good guy, the Kang.
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>>70707296
So? The last time Norway invaded us they were fleeing before we had even opened fire.

>>70707299
>speaking your own language yet they can still understand you

Making a lot of assumptions there

It's too bad, I like Denmark and would consider moving there if I could just understand anything
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>>70707554
He is, a weird one for sure.
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>>70707557
You can still learn Danish you know?
To be able to hear what we're saying would probably only takes a few months.
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>>70707579
He looks like a nord so don't know why he spergs about it.
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>>70707595

Did you ever consider the possibility that Nords might look like him because ancient Nords were Finns?
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>>70707623
Yeah or that we intermarried between each other and now share similar blood and flesh and I don't get why people sperg out.
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>>70707633
I doubt the guy who spergs out in here and goes in debth about pseudoanthropology and misconceptions is the one we are posting pics of. The guy in pic is Partajäbä who just was generally we wuzzing about years ago across imageboards. Everyone who acts like him is now called essentially Partajäbä (beard-dude)
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>>70707580
Of course you could. Anybody can get free Danish classes if they've moved to Denmark.
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>>70706634
>Fingolians can't into doublememearrowing

What a suprise.
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My countrymen ruin threads like this with unnecessary kang autism
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>>70701678
i would be for this, if it included reforming the scandinavian languages into one common language, a kind of nordic esperanto if you will.
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would be great, because our leftards would no longer be a majority
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>>70710204
>The 12th-century Icelandic Gray Goose Laws state that Swedes, Norwegians, Icelanders and Danes spoke the same language, dǫnsk tunga ("Danish tongue"; speakers of Old East Norse would have said dansk tunga). Another term used, used especially commonly with reference to West Norse, was norrœnt mál ("Nordic speech"). Today Old Norse has developed into the modern North Germanic languages Icelandic, Faroese, Norwegian, Danish and Swedish, of which Norwegian, Danish and Swedish retain considerable mutual intelligibility.
>Danish Tongue

Danish confirmed for original scandinavian language. Thus it must also be the main basis of the new scandinavian common tongue. We can use the swedish numbers, but everything else must go.
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>>70710331
that would not be for us common folk to decide
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>>70710331
Icelandic is easily the prettiest. It's a language of songs and legends.
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>>70701753
Triumvirate when?
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>>70710575
this

danish is a degenerated low german mess at this point, it would be insane to base a new language on it.
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>>70710331
>learning danish
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>>70710636
Fuck off, swedish diaspora.
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I see alot of finns say they are not culturally close to the other nordic countries. But to be honest when I'm in Finland it feel more like being closer to home then Germany and parts of Denmark except for language. The way people behave, their mannerism, the athmosphere. houses and infrastructure, the way society is constructed is are all more similar. The air even smells the same and the water taste the same. Have you tasted danish tap water? It feel like licking a chalk.
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>>70708450
Didn't want to give a (You) but there you go.
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Can we join?

We're basically Scandinavian anyway when it comes to standards of living
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>>70711044
If you can secure a land connection to denmark
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>>70710331
Danmark - The mark of the danes
Sverige - The reich of the swedes
Norge/Noreg - Way through the narrow strait

Norwegian is made up ethnicity. Most of southern Norway and the Oslo bay were as danish as the danes in early middle ages. Remember it was easier/faster to cross the sea then to travel on land. When the Fairhairs unsurped the power from the danish kings and subjugated the more northern petty kingdoms, the kingdom become Norge after where they are from (southwestern Norway). It was reinvented as a nationality in the 1700s because of the utter mismangement from Copenhagen.
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>>70711552
The same goes for a lot of nationalities. Nationalism is a relatively modern phenomenon.
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