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>MFW US Democracy is now India tier

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>MFW US Democracy is now India tier
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>>70499382
>inb4 "america is not a democracy you retard its a republic"
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>>70499382
Top Kek. Atleast India can say they're a population of a billion people or some other shit (no pun intended).

What's America's excuse?
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>>70499382
You're also on the same level as Japan, S. Korea and Portugal. What's wrong with that?
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>>70499550
>Study: US is an oligarchy, not a democracy
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27074746

>The U.S. has ‘worst elections of any long-established democracy,’ report finds
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/03/21/the-u-s-has-worst-elections-of-any-long-established-democracy-report-finds/
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Here is an interactive chart:

https://infographics.economist.com/2017/DemocracyIndex/

Here are the 60 Indicators:

http://www.economist.com/media/pdf/DEMOCRACY_INDEX_2007_v3.pdf
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>>70499540
we're just glad to not be Australia
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>>70499631
It basically breaks the whole idea of "we wuz exception and shit".
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Cant waitt to see the collapse of the US
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Yay, more bureaucratic dickwaving no one can do jack shit about. Really makes my processor whizz.
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>>70499382
>>70499656
>>70499661
>>70499540
>these people unironically at some point were the """"""""defenders"""""""" of democracy
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>>70499382
>>70499714

yes, my question is why woudl it be downgraded after a candidate won legitimately?

is this another libtard spergout?
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>>70499714
>This time, because the ***WRONG*** person won,
>this time

>>70499675
Take that back fatty.
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>>70499817
my mom says I'm not that fat
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>Economist makes hit pieces on trump since 2015
>Is literally owned by the Rothschilds, wikileaks shows emailing between Lynn De Rothschild and Hillary with Lynn praising Hillary
>Hillary loses
>Trump wins
>The economist then arbitrarily downgrades US democracy on their phony map out of butthurt

If you think this is valid you are either one of two things:
1.Butthurt about Trump
2.Dumb as rocks
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>>70499382
its probably gonna improve with trump election though
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>>70499914
>Muh media shouldn't criticize muh candidate/leader

You're part of the problem
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>>70499382
hilarious still thats very overrated

very america friendly Infographic
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>>70499926
It was dropped arbitrarily because he won, the owners of the Economist were all Hillary supporters>>70499926

>>70499978
Criticize him all you want, don't fain objectivity and claim we are a less of a democracy because the person you don't like won
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>>70499878
>I have a feeling that almost no one knew what the electoral college even was before the 2016 election.
That's because the last person to win using the electoral college was George Bush in 2000.

And yes- it did cause a big commotion then. It's just more prevalent because the internet allows more people to easily voice their opinion.
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>>70499978
There's a difference between not criticizing a politician and candidates paying PR hitmen to vehemently demonize the other.
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>>70499661
>28. Do ethnic, religious and other minorities have a reasonable degree of autonomy and voice in the political process?
>29. Women in parliament. % of members of parliament who are women

Shit criteria.
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>>70500020
Then maybe he shouldn't be sperging out like a fucking child over crowd sizes and his spokespersons shouldn't be saying stupid Orwellian bullshit like "alternative facts".
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>>70499550
The group who decides this ranking said its because of lack of American's trust in the government. They also said that brexit indicated similar distrust but that doesn't matter because their voter participation in the referendum was slightly higher than average so their meme score went up.

>>70499803
They claimed the election had nothing to do with it and either outcome would have resulted in the downgrade.
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>>70499382
>US Democracy is now India tier
>now
Wasn't it always shit. Did anything change or did Indian democracy just improve (lol)
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>>70500066
>trump supporters are one person
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>>70499382
>democracies
Are any countries democracies? I don't think so.
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>>70500149
>Trump supporters are incapable of admitting fault without deflecting and pointing to "muh Hillary"

Really juggles the noggin.
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>>70499714
The electoral college was always shit
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>>70499982
>wtf he didn't wave when boarding le plane, wtf i hate trump now
Ironically what you're talking about actually happened. Pic related when Obama absent mindedly gave a half-assed salute one time.

>>70500119
Yeah but manufactured drama sells. There's so much information that people only want to read the most 'exciting' ones.
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>>70500063
>>70500175

You know the fundamentals of a democratic society includes inclusion....
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>>70500205
Nope, just challenging your preconceived notion that this estimator is unbiased.
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>>70499878
>t. 18 year old
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>>70499382
>don't vote for these people because they're the opposing party!!!!
>(((((((democracy))))))))
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>>70500351
>just challenging your preconceived notion that this estimator is unbiased.

>Bias

There you go throwing out that word again.
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Estonia can never become full democratic because we banned communist parties.
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>>70500397
I think it's more a question of whether there are policies in place that attempts to discourage or disenfranchise certain groups, either directly or indirectly.
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>>70500448
I'll use whatever words I please, this is a biased scale made by someone who is very angry and disappointed with the results of the election. It seems that you are too, but I'm guessing you have more than half a brain under all that anger to realize that the map you posted in your seething rage in the OP is not a reflection of reality
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>>70500588
Well Gerrymandering for one and some states were charged recently with attempting to implement voting policies meant to discouraged voting amongst minorities through IDs and attempting to shorten early voting.
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>>70500702
Are you really so fucking ignorant to suggest I dont carry a fucking ID just because I'm not white? What the fuck is wrong with you people?
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>>70500589
>Sent in 2010

On another note, I didn't know the Rothschild controlled everything. It's that kind of conspiracy bullshit that deflects from the issues and moreover discredit free media by dismissing it as something controlled by mysterious actors who often times are ((("""Globalists"""))).
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>>70500779
>>70500729

It's a bit more complicated than that. Let's say blacks carry a certain kind of ID but don't carry another sort of ID. In the case of North Carolina, they basically made it so that they need additional sets of ID that black voters typically didn't carry. It's that sort of subtle suppression tactics.
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>>70500783
>On another note, I didn't know the Rothschild controlled everything. It's that kind of conspiracy bullshit that deflects from the issues and moreover discredit free media by dismissing it as something controlled by mysterious actors who often times are ((("""Globalists"""))).

They don't, you wont put words in my mouth and pull me down to your level. They own the largest shares of the economist and Lynn specifically takes care of their funds. I'm not discrediting all free media, I'm discrediting the economist's decision here to downgrade our democracy purely out of spite and bad sportsmanship
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>>70500884
What ID? Why can't you give proof? Why wouldnt blacks carry it and why is everyone else easily doing it? Why can't we have proper verification that the people voting in our elections or citizens? How does stopping non citizens from voting hurt our democracy? If anything it bolsters it's legitimacy. It shouldnt become a racist and disgusting argument that blacks are somehow too dumb to know to bring the necessary credentials. Sounds like silly race bating on a serious issue that needs to be addressed when we have over a dozen million illegals that could potentially vote in out election
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>>70500967
Again. referring back to the North Carolina case. The Republican Party under McCory basically had a series of studies done in voting habits on certain voters, especially blacks, and came up with policies that would add more barriers to voting.

I don't know what IDs they carry, you can look it up online yourself.
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>>70501069
You can't give any specific proof and you can't even name the specific ID which everyone else seems to have no trouble with. The implication the McCory, a governor is racist enough to go out and target how to suppress blacks is a serious implication that shouldn't be thrown around lightly. Frankly the accusations sound ludicrous and desperate
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>>70501146
>>70501180

Christ you two are fucking idiots. I didn't fucking go and write several studies on the subject matter. You can google "North Carolina Voter Suppression" and look for yourselves if you're so curious about the details.
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>>70501146
>>70501180

HERE!

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/30/us/federal-appeals-court-strikes-down-north-carolina-voter-id-provision.html?_r=0

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/appeals-court-strikes-down-north-carolinas-voter-id-law/2016/07/29/810b5844-4f72-11e6-aa14-e0c1087f7583_story.html?utm_term=.b9384632f1ce

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/289798-appeals-court-strikes-down-north-carolinas-voter-id-law
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>>70501362
>>70501289
>https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/30/us/federal-appeals-court-strikes-down-north-carolina-voter-id-provision.html?_r=0

Incredible

>The North Carolina ruling tossed out the state’s requirement that voters present photo identification at the polls

How is presenting photo ID racist? Have you deluded yourself thoroughly enough to believe that?
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>>70501760
The methods they are using are clearly intended to hamper and complicate the voting process for poor and uneducated voters, which to no one surprise are rarely white. This goes against the Privileges or Immunities Clause of the 14th amendment.

>No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States
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>>70501976
Arguably it also goes against amendment 15 if it's possible to consistently prove that the methods are directed at racial minorities and not just poor people.

>The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude
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>>70501976
Thank you based Finland
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>>70500063
No they aren't.
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>>70501976
But I thought only poor uneducated white people voted for Trump and the educated voted for Hillary? You should be enthusiastic about this then if it targets such people(Hint, it doesnt target any body except people who don't have photo ID's, aka illegals)
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>>70499382
>half of yurop flawed democracy
uhh
explain?
you can't just post a chart like that without explaining
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>>70502118
Here are the 60 Indicators:

http://www.economist.com/media/pdf/DEMOCRACY_INDEX_2007_v3.pdf
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>>70501976
>No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States
Doesnt do that, all citizens have an ID so it doesnt restrict any of their privileges. It enhances it in fact because it ensures that only real citizens are voting

>The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude
It's not denying anyone with the right to vote their voting power, it's ensuring that these people are actual citizens by looking at valid ID

>>70502072
>Couldnt argue for something himself and blindly believes in it
Pathetic
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>>70502072
What can I say, I love american law.
It's much more dramatic and interesting than main land european law.

>>70502077
Trying to turn everything into a partisanship issue is why everyone hates trump fanboys.

>>70502097
If that doesn't convince you then amendment twenty four should shut you up.

>The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax

In short no american has to spend money to vote. Unless the states are prepared to supply the photo IDs for free then they are acting unconstitutionally.
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>>70502224
Just dissecting your illogical and hypocritical beliefs and making them naked for everyone to see, but most importantly for yourself to reflect on
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>>70499382
>spain that hihg
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>>70502275
All you did was make a speculative guess about my motivations to discuss american laws. I'd hardly call that dissecting anything but your own butthurt about someone not falling in line with your way of thinking.
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>>70502334
>I'd hardly call that dissecting anything but your own butthurt about someone not falling in line with your way of thinking.

4chan in a nutshell, eh?
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>>70502334
>All you did was make a speculative guess about my motivations to discuss american laws.
It's not speculation, it's an observation of your tantrums and rage filled rants against trump across this entire board. You've gone on such a tirade against him that you've ceased to even be anonymous here. You care little for American law but more for verifying your political beliefs by skewing and ignoring it
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>>70502224
No American is spending money to vote, but it's paramount that undeniable proof of citizenship is given for someone to vote less our country become a flawed democracy. Wouldn't want Russian spies voting willy nilly now, would we?
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>>70502346
If a photo ID is compulsory for voting it's not a service but a part of the voting process and as such should not require compensation, be it direct or indirect tax. It's unconstitutional, simple as that.

>>70502429
And here I was thinking we were having a nice and courteous discussion about american voting process. What a shame.
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>>70502545
>If a photo ID is compulsory for voting it's not a service but a part of the voting process and as such should not require compensation, be it direct or indirect tax. It's unconstitutional, simple as that.
Verifying citizenship is not unconstitutional, allowing non citizens to vote is unconstitutional. No citizen is spending money to vote directly, if they have to indirectly to get photo ID which they should already have it is an unrelated matter
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>>70499382
What is going on in Uzbekistan and Tajikistan?
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>>70500220
its flawed, but way better than letting California and New York decide for the whole country
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>>70499382
>Flawed democracies
>aka countries that haven't been libcucked
Trump saved it from going full green.
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>If Hillary wins: America is the greatest democracy in da werld

>If Trump wins: America is a fascist dictatorship

Ah yes, what an impressive unbiased index that is.
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>>70499382
>Canada
>Full democracy
This is how I knew this chart is bullshit. Our Prime Minister can win with less than 40% of the vote.
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Electing the woman who rigged her primary nomination and undoubtedly used unethical means to get support during the main campaign, over the guy who had to fight his own party to get a nomination then the entire world to win the election, is undemocratic?

You can hate Trump all you want but really? That's just pettiness
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>>70504059
this

It's also hilarious that they would rank Canada as being better than the UK, when we have the exact same political system (except slightly worse, because instead of the House of Lords we have the fucking Senate).
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>>70504060
Isn't the DNC a private party? Why does it matter that they shafted Bernie?

Also unethical means? Like Trump and Russia?
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why is america such a shithole
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>>70499803
It is. Disregard the booty blasted OP
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>>70500035
You know king nigger lost the popular vote to hillary, right? Bet you didn't.
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>>70503587
This. It's a map created by lefties for lefties to pat themselves on the back.
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>>70504727
at least read up on how they do the scores lad
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>>70499382
Turkey should be same as Russia.
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>>70502607
>And why is the constitution so important?
Well, it is the supreme law of the land, and is taken quite a bit seriously in the US.

>>70502545
Since the ID isn't mainly intended for voting, and since voting isn't compulsory in the US, it doesn't quite fall into that jurisdiction. I'd be in favor of introducing several possibilities for verification such as birth certificate, checkbook, etc., but a Driver's License is the easiest.
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>>70499803
Yep
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>>70500884
Blacks don't have drivers lisences?
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>>70505598
For the sake of argument, Alabama passed more stringent rules on Voter ID while closing many DMV branches in black neighborhoods.
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>>70505684
Very doubtful.
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>tfw hybrid regime and it's getting worse every day
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>>70505684
And I'll just say this. When i hoot my first drivers licence, my mom had to drive a hour to get to the dmv in because we lived in a town of 5 thousand people and there was none around us
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>>70501056
>>70500967
A federal court said it disproportionately fucks over blacks and you retards still argue? Off yourselves tbqh
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>>70505926
*when i got
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>>70499382
>tfw authoritarian
feels good t b h
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>>70504630
That was the democratic primary, not the electoral college
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>>70504228

They are private, but if you can't see the serious conflict with the democratic process in subverting it in that manner then I can't explain it any further.

>Trump and Russia

this entire fabricated non-story was based off of "intent" and circumstance, not tangible factual evidence like that which was released by WikiLeaks
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>>70506555
Still ironic that she won the popular vote both times but was ultimately denied the prize.
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>>70506627
I have more of an issue with the delegate system than the parties just picking whoever they want.

>this entire fabricated non-story was based off of "intent" and circumstance, not tangible factual evidence like that which was released by WikiLeaks
Because it's secret, if you want to go against all the intelligence agencies and demand proof go and get a security clearance.
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>>70506738
Superdelegates, as undemocratic as they may be, do keep some of the extreme elements of a party in check. The Democrats have them while the Republicans don't.

Also, in the US party discipline is far weaker than elsewhere, so the voice of democrats, as opposed to simply the DNC establishment, does matter somewhat.
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>>70499714
How young are you? Bush/ Gore happened 17 years ago.
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>>70505598
Statistically less likely to have them.
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>>70506918
Except Gore would have lost anyway because the recounting would have confirmed he lost and if it went to the House which was controlled by Republicans then it would vote Bush.
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>>70499382

>Poland is on the same level as Brazil or Mexico

Fuck this "Good change" faggotry.
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>>70502607
Oh shit I remember you. This guy is an unironic facist arguing in bad faith.
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>>70502206
They are difficult and expensive to get, the require long waiting times and shitty bureaucracy, which poor people (who are disproportioately black) have a more difficult time dealing with.
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>>70507106
He's unironically mentally ill and underage as well.
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>>70503517
Nigger what? Repubs have Texas Florida, many parts of the south west and lastly a lot of the rustbelt+mid west..
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>>70504727
>economist
>leftist

Ayylmao
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>>70502607
>it's a piece of paper written by a bunch of people hundreds of years ago who barely even agreed on it themselves. It's literally nothing. Fuck the constitution

Coincidentally, every state which fell for your line of thinking has turned into a deplorable shithole or is in the process of it.
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>>70506738

>Because it's secret, if you want to go against all the intelligence agencies and demand proof go and get a security clearance.

How convenient for the intelligence agencies rife with establishment and Democrat influence right

Make serious claims, release serious evidence, people are no longer convinced by the "official stamp" and "unnamed sources"
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>democracy is good

why are you still falling for this meme
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>>70503517
This, although Winner takes All is shit. All states should do it by Congressional District like Maine or Nebraska.
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>>70505717
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/alabama-dmv-closings-draw-call-federal-voting-rights-probe
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>>70502545

>this country was founded on a policy of only allowing white male landowners to vote
>somehow having to proffer an ID in this day and age is unconstitutional

k
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>>70507419
How convenient is it to be able to go against all the fucking intelligence agencies of your country just because it goes against your views?

Also both sides acknowledge it happened.
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>>70507347

Don't laugh.

Our conservasocialist government and its shills claim that everyone who is pro-business and anti-protectionism is a leftard.

And many believe it.
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>>70506994
>being young and on 4chan

You should be out enjoying yourself, not shitting up some Mongolian basket-weaving forum.
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india?

your "democracy" is fucking soviet union tier
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>>70507419
The FBI, led by the Republican and lover of Clinton James Comey, also concluded the same thing.
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The USA have always had a bad democracy, if it can even be called that.
Has anything changed recently? Or was it just that they elected Trump?

And there is nothing wrong with letting those with fewer votes win, we do that in Norway too, it's important to ensure that everyone are represented.
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>>70508727
""Popular trust in government, elected representatives, and political parties has fallen to extremely low levels in the US. This has been a long-term trend and one that preceded the election of Mr. Trump as the US president in November 2016," they write."
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>>70499382
Unless you are Swiss you have no right to say you live in a democratic or free country.
I fart in your direction, inferior apes.
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>>70499878
>I don't recall anyone sperging out about it in previous years.

>A FUCKING IGNORANT LEAF
>Forgets the hillbilly spergout for 8 years because Obongo became POTUS

kys
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The vast majority of America's issues with the democratic process would be solved if we had nonpartisan redistricting committees rather than letting state legislatures do the task.
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>>70499982
>>70499982
He is not a Nazi I know. They did atleast good things for the economy even for a short time.

He is just a retarded clown with dangerous power. A chimp with an AK.
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>>70500020
>Criticize him all you want, don't fain objectivity

Why ? Critics cant be objective ?
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>>70500145
For a country of 1.3 billions the Indians have remarkably held on to their democracy if not anything else.
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>>70510918
Apparently america since republicans are using those tactics to suppress everyone who doesn't vote for them :^)
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>>70505598
Closing down DMVs in black majority counties would cause less of them to have DLs. Infact that is exactly what happened.

Dont pretend these things dont have their ulterior motivations. Just fucking dont.
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>>70510752
tbf, the Dow Jones has passed 20,000 under his Presidency. But I do agree with you in that I'm not afraid of him being Hitler but I already know he's Donald Trump.

>>70500145
Kinda, but it was always a Full Democracy until now.
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>>70499382
The US has been an Evil Empire in the making for a while now
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>>70511174
>Dont pretend these things dont have their ulterior motivations. Just fucking dont.
Same with the Democrats wanting to give them DLs.
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>>70499803

The state of our democracy is such that it would have been downgraded no matter who won.

EG, lets assume Hillary won. Her entire platform was "Trump is bad" and her supporters views were "yeah she's shit but he's worse" and none of that was being said in an unironic manner.

Trump supporters like to pretend that if Hillary had won, they wouldn't be doing the same thing right now. The same Trump supporters who were actively threatening a bloody coup if Hillary had won. That's how fucking stupid this whole thing is.

The people who said "Love trumps Hate" are now showing themselves under the current conditions, while the Trump supporters who were calling for blood if he lost, are pretending to be less violent than their democrat counterparts. In reality, one is not less violent than the other, one is merely more content, and the situation would have been equivalent no matter what happened.

As far as everything else is considered, it's not a secret that the Republican goal is getting enough people in the House and Senate to rewrite the Constitution and ultimately get rid of the democratic process.They WILL get those numbers because the DNC party establishment is currently fighting an internal three way war, that will very soon be a two way war.
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>>70511407
You're saying that as someone that's probably white and pretty well off, if you're poor, black, and disenfranchised you won't have the time or motivation to jump through all the hoops.
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>>70511629
>and ultimately get rid of the democratic process
wat
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>>70511645
Shit, I'm white and poor and don't have the motivation to drop $50 out of a $300 paycheck to get a piston license.
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>>70511731
Does the constitution even matter? People read it however they want to. The only thing that matters is who are the judges. Americans read the constitution like christians read the bible.
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>>70511748
I'm white and poor and didn't have the motivation to vote in Brexit because the voting booth was too far away.
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>>70511800
>The condescending way you're acting towards non-white people is quite frankly disgusting. Why do you consider us as inferior?
(You)
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>>70511807
Yes, but the Supreme Court is still ultimately bound by the text of the constitution (the vast majority of which is non-controversial) and precedent, and most cases it hears are apolitical.
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>>70511629
You've been steadily developing into an elected dictatorship for a while now, Trump being in power is going to accelerate that
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>>70511966
not falling for this b8 desu
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>point that Clinton and Al Gore won the popular vote on other threads
>at least 10 (you)s from Americans saying "America is not a democracy, its a republic!!"

Why are you all getting triggered by someone saying the US isn't the #1 democracy out there? Most of you already admit it
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>>70511800
>The condescending way you're acting towards non-white people is quite frankly disgusting. Why do you consider us as inferior?
You are inferior
>>
Uruguay is now the most democratic country with a Presidential system. Really makes you think.

>>70512088
We're still high up on that list, even with our new status, hence why I still don't know why we get so triggered.
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>>70511296
>making it harder to vote = good
>making it easier to vote = bad
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>>70512205
I'm saying the Democrats are in it a lot because those people tend to vote Democratic.
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>>70512158
>IDs aren't expensive nor difficult to obtain. >People have them

Yeah, you're definitely not baiting.
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>>70512248
Ok but does that mean helping people acquire IDs to vote is bad?
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>>70512323
No, but you said that there was an ulterior motive for the Republicans to pass restrictive voter ID laws, and I pointed out that there's similarly an ulterior motive for the Democrats to loosen such laws. You can still do good things for relatively selfish reasons.
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>>70512359
i can't tell if you're intentionally being dense as fuck or if you're really this retarded.
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fucking kek
who made this map anyway?
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>>70499714
>People start opposing something shitty when they see for themselves how shitty it can be.
Anything strange about it? Don't think about the opposition as a single group of completely like-minded people.
>>
In what fucking world would people object to photo IDs to vote? You need one in Canada and pretty much every western country to vote.

Oh right, MUH RAAAAYCIIISM.
>>
>>70512504
The Economist, IIRC

>>70499714
The Electoral College has rather little to do with the demotion, but rather our low turnout (especially in the primary) and the members of one party hating those of the other.
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>>70507340
Rust belt are swing states, so is Florida.

Florida and Texas do not supercede California and New York in population.
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>>70512568
EC is genius. Fuck off if you think California, Illinois and New York should decide for the entire country.
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>>70512807
This; as said earlier, winner-takes-all is the issue, rather than the EC itself. States should do it by Congressional district, as said earlier ITT.
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>>70502295
come on. We went from having 2-party system to suddenly have 4 relevant parties in just a few years. That wouldn't even be possible if our democracy was as broken as many belive..
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>>70512807
As opposed to 4 swing states each election, right?
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>>70512657
google it you dreg
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>>70512807
Why do people in federations give so much of a shit about the other regions? Just vote as individuals, don't give more votes to states than is proportional to how many people live there.
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>>70513250
You can't have one city decide for the whole country. You need to do some things to counterbalance the bias. It's a good thing that lower population regions get more power per person.
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>>70513721
Tell that to Luxembourg. People can't be entitled to extra political power just because they live outside of the major population centres.
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>>70513721
Indeed, but also >>70512927, which is why we should do it by Congressional District.
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>>70513721
>It's a good thing to let ohio decide everytime for the rest of the 290 million people
>>
Forget all the indicators the economist uses, this thread alone is more than sufficient evidence for a flawed democracy.
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>>70514673
Finally, a good comment.
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>>70512927
Better to have swing states than states that vote the same each time.
>>
>>70514673
This
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>>70513947
And you get shit like the EU where one country who is the most pioulated and influential (Germany) decides to fuck up the entire continent by opening the floodgates to hordes of mudslimes without a limit.

So, yes. They should.
>>
>>70499521
well its true
>>
>>70499382
kazakhstan has great chance, if nazarbayev fixed its situation after his death.
>>
>>70518775

democracy and republic aren't mutually exclusive terms you idiot.
>>
>tfw when shining beacon of democracy in a barbarian land
>>
>>70514994
What are you talking about? Germany can only allow refugees inside itself, and that had nothing to do with EU laws or regulations. Most countries are just ignoring the dublin convention anyway. And whether or not German voters live in Bayern or Berlin should not matter in the slightest when it comes to how much their votes count. Just as it shouldn't count if you're from Alaska or Texas.
>>70518983
Are you white?
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>>70519263
>Are you white?

I'm half italian so no.
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>>70519349
Uruguay, I meant. Is it white?
>>
>>70519393

It's majority white (around 75-80%) if you consider meds white. The rest are blacks, mulattoes and general shitskins

If you just consider aryan master race as white then maybe just 10% white.
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>>70499382
>now
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>>70519263
>they can only allow refugees to themselves

They got other countries to comply and the refugees continue to spill over into other countries.

Two cities in the US should not dictate the politics every time because they are the biggest.
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>>70499382
>>
>>70499382

India has about 400 languages, 3 dozen different ethnicities, half a dozen religions, two nuclear armed rivals on its borders while combating 3 different insurgencies within its country.

It's an absolute indictment of Clapistan that despite these problems, India still matches their level of "democracy"
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>>70499382
>tfw hybrid regime master race
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>>70514994
The ones who opened up the flood gates were actually Greece and Italy. Germany increased the flow with their words of encouragement, but they did not open the gates.
>>
When are asshurt SJWs going to get over Trump being president? There is no country that has perfect democracy.
>>
>>70525546
>When are asshurt SJWs going to get over Trump being president?
They were still complaining about Bush until Trump announced his bid.
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>>70525546
The US deteriorating Democracy Index is not caused by Trump, but by an increasing lack of trust in public institutions. People trust the police less, they trust the political parties less, they trust the political system less, etc. and this is reflected in the rating.
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>>70511629
> calling for blood
lol why do americans pretend youre on the verge of some blood spilling revolution? notihng was going to happen either ways. youre not on the verge of some dictatorship, or civil war.
in any case, democrats were being more violent. nothing too serious, from a third world view its like watching a kindergarten pick the class president, the innocence behind all this victimization, or decries of tyranny
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>>70525285
This. And India has two big communist parties with million upon million supporters.
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It seems like only Scandinavia and Australia has good elections.
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>>70499382
Is Ireland the only good place left?
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>>70512435
What's he say?
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>>70512657
>needing an photo ID to vote
>government doesn't hand out ID cards
Just more discrimination against non-motorists
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>>70525285
This.
Hate us all you want but we are the most Democratic and Free country in our region. We are also a republic, so its actually a complement to be an India level democracy and we are also a republic.

>PIC VERY FUCKING RELATED
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>>70526845
Has there ever been a non-hindu PM? Or a Mongoloid one?
>>
>>70526559
Yes, incredible country. That's why one fifth of their country lives abroad and their economy runs off of having a 10 percent corporate tax rate but 45 percent income tax. Such a great place
>>
No it isn't you blind shit
>>
but her emails!
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>>70526875
Dude, we have caste system and our current PM BASED PM MODI is a lower caste, who used to sell tea at Train Stations as a child and his Mother used to work as a maid to feed him and his siblings.

There have been Muslim and Sikh Presidents and Sikh Prime Ministers
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>>70526960
Sadly it was going to happen regardless. Although I wonder if Trump bullying historic allies is accelerating the issue.
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>>70526986
The caste system was abolished by Gandhi. No?
>>
>flawed democracy

from the point of view from someone whose country is eroding into a caliphate no doubt
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>>70527021
Caste System doesn't exist politically and constitutionally but it still exists socially still.
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>>70503587
This
>>
USA never was a democratic country
>>
>united states claims its the land of the free
>on the same level of democracy as Poo-in-loo and Botswana

lmfao a bunch of africans in the middle of the desert figured out democracy on the same level as you all while dodging malaria mosquitos, aids and lions.
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>>70499382
>Netherlands - Full Democracy
>Belgium - Flawed Democracy
>literally the same form of government
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>>70499382
It was always shit lmao.
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>>70520612
Cities and states should not decide anything. People should vote, and that should be it. No concern should be paid to where they come from.
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