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Why has homosexual behavior been banned throughout history in so many different societies and religions? What exactly is the harm?
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>>70488043
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Its unnatural and disgusts regular people. and rightfully so.
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It notmalizes non reproductive relationships and leads to population decline
That's literally it
Wouldn't be bad if there weren't brown minorities edging these populations out in the mean time
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>>70488043
Has it? The vast majority of cultures didn't care about it before Abrahamic religions gained power.
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>>70488043
Because it's gay.
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>>70488104
vai tomar no cu seu viado
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>>70488043
because it isn't productive to the society (no children created)

but to be fair, under these criteria, I wouldn't be productive to society either
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>>70488056
Holy shit
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>>70488043
Because they are jealous of how qt and fabulous we are.

Now that the jews have given us control of the media, the population has grown dependent on us for entertainment.
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>>70488276
>Folsom Street Fair
That's so cute isn't it, where they ejaculate and rim each other out in public.
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>>70488068
A few percent of men do not get a woman ever. Women more than men, and most women dream about Chad
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Homsexuality has also thrived in history OP.
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>>70488338
Yes homosexuality is nature's population control and should not be promoted
Thanks based russia
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>>70488327
I don't exactly know what it is, but no. I don't even get why it's allowed. I'm certainly not interested in it, I don't get why it's on a street and not on some kind of private property.
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>>70488376
>I don't even get why it's allowed. I'm certainly not interested in it, I don't get why it's on a street and not on some kind of private property

San Francisco is why. The city is run by psychotic SJWs.
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>>70488276
haha don't be such a fuckin poofta mate
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Because most faggots are selfish hedonists who care only about pleasure.
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>>70488410
is it at least cordoned off so kids cant get in there etc?

>>70488426
cook me some fuckin eggs cunt

>>70488451
Because most people are selfish hedonists who care only about pleasure**
Am I wrong?
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>>70488479
got two round eggs for you to put in your mouth right here ya flamin poof
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Third part of russian people raised in same-sex family. The world has not collapsed on it.
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>>70488479
>is it at least cordoned off so kids cant get in there etc?
You tell me.
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>>70488507
pls b in palmerston north
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>>70488570
>>70488586
Well I don't see any fisting booths in this pics though. Is there like an adults only section or something? I seriously doubt they'd allow kids there, and I won't believe they do until you prove it.
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>>70488579
SOMEONE SAY PALMY????
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The extreme homophobia is mostly a western meme.

That's not to say other cultures haven't frowned upon the behaviour, but it's viewed more with disappointment/disgust than abhorrence/hate; as a man, to allow another man to fuck you up the arse would be to demonstrate your fundamental lack of virility i.e. that you're a bit of a faggot.

Also, in collectivist cultures based around the extended family unit, your sexual preferences are mostly irrelevant. Fuck all the men you want in your free time, but at the end of the day you ARE going to marry that bitch over there whose family's got the fattest cattle in the village, and you ARE going to get her pregnant in order to continue the family line.
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>>70488603
>guy who's never been to San Franpsycho

You don't even have to go to a leather parade, half the sodomites are doing stuff in public places on a normal day. The city recently passed an ordinance that you have to use a cloth or towel if you're sitting naked on a public park bench.
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>>70488570
It is a pity that I have no such parades. It would be fun to watch dancing queers in funny costumes. It's even funnier than when riot police beats the crap out of an opposition march.
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>>70488652
Anyone remember that video of the skinny faggot in Moscow being beaten up by Russian navy sailors and making sure his friend recorded it all on video so he could go crying to the Swedish embassy and beg for asylum?
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>>70488629
>Fuck all the men you want in your free time, but at the end of the day you ARE going to marry that bitch over there whose family's got the fattest cattle in the village, and you ARE going to get her pregnant in order to continue the family line.
This is a point that the "gays will make the population go extinct" argument completely ignores. You can still fuck women and have babies if you're gay.

t. gay guy who's had sex with women

>>70488643
How is this city one of the most expensive places in the world to live?
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>>70488643
You can't complain of course, because you probably get arrested and charged with a hate crime. This is on top of the homeless bums piddling and crapping in the streets, the heroin needles everywhere, the fetid stench of marijuana smoke everywhere, and the Mission District's absurdly high murder rate.

San Francisco is the perfect example of letting Tumblr run a city.
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>>70488043
>when you're better looking than the guy on the right but you can't get a bf
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>>70488823
what city?
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>>70488931
perth
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>>70488707
I remember this video. It was a Day of Paratroopers. They damn homophobe.
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>>70488961
damn shame

Are you autistic?
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>>70488043
>What exactly is the harm?
What exactly is the haram, you mean?
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>>70488986
I don't think so. I just have no social life.
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>>70488043
tfw no greek bpucci
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>>70489003
post face
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>>70489076
Why?
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>>70489028
fuck off paedo
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>>70489082
just curious

you said you were more handsome than the guy on the right, not the left and I'm curious as to why, I assume you look a bit like him.
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>>70488043
IIRC it wasnt banned in ancient greece, ancient east china and pre medieval india.
iirc only the ancient middle east had a thing against homosexuality in the ancient world
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>>70489160
oh I meant the left :/
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>>70488707
>>70488967
Too bad they all look gay as fuck anyway.
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>>70488043
god created adam and eve not adam and steve
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>>70489177
so you think you're not as handsome as the guy on the right?

>>70489186
is this a russian gay icon?

>>70489192
dog bless
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>>70488043
I couldn't believe what was going through my mind then, how can me, a male, a man! Love another man? I couldn't understand myself, all there wast to me was his smile...his touch. We were still in that first stage of confusion, "is this only friendship? What am I doing?" kept repeating in my head. However, this kind of thing, no matter how we try to avoid...they end up happening naturally, one day you carelessly hold hands the other you kiss his cheeks..Well, i can't keep myself from smiling when I think of those days, everything so innocent...love in its purest form, not yet touched by sin. It took long until we passed to the other level..oh, how long it took! Society still doesn't understand this kind of passion, it's prohibited, secretive..and that made us both insecure and more more wanting. So much that in the day we gave up to our desire, we didn't stop for two consecutive days..and from now on, we couldn't stay much longer out of each other's sight.
You see Mr. Chabal when I arrived home that day and saw my love, my dear love! In the arms of another, in our OWN BED! I couldn't contain myself, love and hate are two sides of the same coin...I'm guilty, yes, of love, indescribable love and nothing more! I look at my hands right now and I can only see blood, but isn't the liquid of life the single most proof of love there is? Tell me Mr. Chabal, does love deserve to be punished? Tell me! I need to know!
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>>70489214
>so you think you're not as handsome as the guy on the right?
not quite, no
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>>70489222
What is this?

>>70489235
You're an average, normal looking dude then I'm guessing.
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>>70489316
Yeah
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>>70489332
just b urself
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>>70488043
Because it's le icky x((
But anal masturbation is a-okay tho
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>>70489347
b mi sellf?
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There are many historical and powerful societies that did not condemn (male) homosexuality: roman empire, chinese dynasties.

The real question is: why does lesbianism appear to be absent from history?
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>>70489445
It was still fine to rub dicks and banter another guy's bum though. Which is pretty gay tbph.
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>>70489421
Because women aren't important.
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>>70489445
Homosexuality was not ok in Ancient Greece, this is a myth created by LGBT activists. Being on the receiving end of a dick was seen as degrading and effeminate. Also most historical records we have for classical Greece pertain to Athens, there were mucho many other Greek cities which may have had much different social attitudes.
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>>70489421
>The real question is: why does lesbianism appear to be absent from history?
Queen Victoria was once asked to sign a bill criminalizing female homosexuality in the UK, but she refused on the grounds that she did not believe such a thing existed.
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>>70489421
Both male and female homosexuality were seen as normal in ancient India. The only reason it became a deviant practice afterwards is because the British settlers said so.
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>>70488056
The level of autism that was necessary to write that should not even be possible to reach.
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>>70489421
this
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>sticking your dick in a poop filled hole
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Straight people think all we do is fuck bums all day ever day. 95% of the gay sex I've had (not that much) has not involved anal sex. There's plenty of other sexual activities you can do without dicks going in bums.
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>>70489682
>Straight people think all we do is fuck bums all day ever day
I can tell you this, AIDS didn't happen from drinking coffee or attending your grandma's church bake sale.
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>>70489698
It certainly happens but it's not even the most common form of gay sex.
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>>70489698
Straight people have anal sex too.
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>>70488056
I don't get why would anyone cap or save all of that nonsensical idiocy.
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>>70489811
Only about 5-10% of women have anal sex while like 90% of gay men have it.
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>>70489589
>>70489886
Degenerates can't refute it
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>>70489682
>"sex"
Sex is the penetration of a vagina with a penis alone.
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>>70489964
Yet at the end of the day, since gay 'receiving' people are like 5% of the population, more women end up having anal sex than gay men, and I don't see anyone adressing this issue.
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>>70490030
Sweden
JA
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>>70490040
lol epic comeback
you must be the coolest kid in town
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I think it's mostly an old world thing. Cultures that didn't tolerate homosexuality just happened to take over most of the old world. Like a lot of Europe normalized homosexuality before Christianity. I hate to sound like an SJW, but patriarchal cultures are more likely to be homophobic (there are exceptions though), and patriarchal cultures are also more likely to be expansionist and conquer their neighbors. So given enough time, it was just inevitable that homophobia would spread. In the new world, I don't know of any cultures that were homophobic before colonialism (I'm NOT saying they definitely didn't exist, I just don't know about them). The major regions of the Americas at least, Mesoamerica and the Andes, didn't stigmatize homosexuality at all. Some cultures even celebrated it.

So basically, in the old world, it was just a coincidence that a homophobic culture spread their culture to their neighbors, then their culture diffused to their neighbors, and so on. While in the new world, it never gained traction.
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>>70490094
>I hate to sound like an SJW
But then again, you are a SJW.
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>>70489986
>Degenerates can't refute it
Possibly not but in the same way that the existence of God "can't be refuted, as the whole thing is based on a foundation that the author creates. When they say
>let's establish some definitions and axioms
The author is essentially poisoning the well, getting you to think in their terms before expanding on their terms. Eg.
>one is mentally ill if one is psychologically unable incapable of refraining from a biologically non-necessity activity or desire
this is nonsense but it is used to give later arguments weight.

And it's so long winded and full of jargon and "axioms" of the author's own creation to give the illusion of authority, when actually it's just a long opinion piece.
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>>70489698
AIDS is a straight people problem in a lot of the world. Like in Africa, the region hardest hit by AIDS.
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>>70490104
How?
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>>70490166
How's high school going?
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>>70490131
In Africa they have a high AIDS rate because of using anal sex as a form of birth control. Are you saying gays are no better than niggers?
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>>70490228
Seriously, how is high school going?
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>>70489698
In developed countries, as much as 80% of HIV cases occur in homosexual men, the bulk of the rest being IV drug users.
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>>70490290
[citation needed]
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>>70490290
Sauce
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For those of you who keep citing HIV/AIDS as a reason why you're disgusted by homosexuals, would you start to accept them if there was a cure for AIDS? What about homosexuals in regions where AIDS is almost non existent?

Honestly, the AIDS excuse is pretty shitty, before AIDS was even a thing people were way more disgusted by homosexuals than they are now.
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>>70488043
it's not normal.

People in the west are more tolerant now because there's stability and it's seen as a non issue
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>>70488276
>>70490030
>>70490419
And it's another thread in which every faggot on /int/ piles in here and tries to defend their diseased way of life.
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>>70491464
I'm not gay lad, I'm just not butthurt about it.
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>>70491464
>thread about gays
>gays show up
who could have seen that one coming?
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>>70488519
> Third part of russian people raised in same-sex family.
чo
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>>70491610
And every thread, you get blown the fuck out after we post all the nauseating statistics about gay behavior and go running crying back to Grindr where you came from.
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>>70489986
>Degenerates
Fuck off tradcon; you're on 4chan so your rhetoric is meaningless.
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>>70491695
poor bait
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You're thinking too much, it's just something unnatural (not in the sense that it's not allowed by sky fairy, but in the sense that it's not common/normal).
Just like the kid with glasses gets bullied if no one else in his class uses glasses, or the fat american gets bullied by the rest of the world that is skinny, the white kid raised in Congo surrounded by niggers. Whenever you are in the "minority" you will be an abnormality by the basic fucking definition of the word, mental gymnastics won't change that.
Whenever you do anything out of the "normal" it is met with a certain degree of rejection, that's just how everything works.
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>>70491464
>diseased way of life
why did you escape from /pol/ ? :s you're a disgusting bitch, the kind of people ruining this board I hope one day I'll come to Czech Republic and beat you up
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homosexuality was fine and common in the absence of abrahamic religions wasn't it
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>>70491636
Maмoй и бaбyшкoй.
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>>70488043
>What exactly is the harm?
It's harder to get a gay man to fall inline with the typical gynocentric propulsion of societies. Men are expected to give their lives for the women folk, playing provider and protector, but why should a gay guy feel the urge to go along with that sort of rat race bullshit?
Look at the sort of peoples who are typically against homosexuality and other non-gynocentric "nonconformities": traditionalist, authoritarian, collective types.
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>>70488056
fpbp tbqh
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>>70488068
>It notmalizes non reproductive relationships and leads to population decline
That's bullshit. Most men don't breed; it's always been the way. In the past we went through periods of time when for every man passing on his genes, four women in the society would.
The reason why breeders don't like fags is that they want to control men and their breeding. Fagets can't be shamed by women.
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>>70491916
see
>>70490115
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>Implying homosexuality is not the cure for the virgins animefaggots autists of this board
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>>70488056
Homosexuals pieces of shit BTFO lmao
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>>70488043
because it isn't normal, it is clearly a genetic disorder. Nobody wants bad genes to spread into the genepool. to be short everything that might be threat to the survival of the group is badly perceived.
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>>70489964
What's the percentage of gay men who have anal sex with women?
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Faggots should probably all kill themselves anyway.
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>>70492001
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It was illegal because straight guys have always controlled society, and they got uncomfortable being hit on by guys.
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>>70488056
But there's less than 9% of the US that is gay. That's just false.
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>>70490115
I see only ad hominem and "poisoning the well" in that post of yours. I get you obtained a Ph.D in rhetoric on /pol/ but everything was well argued AND well documented. It can be refuted logically and with counter-arguments, it's not an appeal to God or whatever.

For example, you can try to argue that homosexuality in nature is not an "error" but a constant and it may serve some social needs too. Again, you may try to argue that homosexuality is not a biological non-necessity. You always pick some thesis or "axioms" as you call them to start an hypothesis and an argumentation. This may lead to interesting debates about deep human conundrums (what is "natural"? how can we measure it? what is pathological?). Per se, including being " incapable of refraining from a biologically non-necessity" in the pathological spectrum is pretty much an agreeable thesis.
I still rarely see something argued as well as in that post on this chinese trap escort forum.
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>>70488056
I don't see anything about converting straight women into lesbianism on the Lesbian Avengers website. I'm pretty sure it just means they recruit women who are already lesbian.
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>be West
>we wuz progressive and shieet
>fucking burn homos alive
>meanwhile being a fag is legal here since always
>le slav homophobes
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>>70492227
Of course it's not. Women don't have a dick.
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>>70492531
what about strap-ons
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no harm
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>>70492001
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>>70492597
>>>/b/
you have to go back
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>>70492430
I've been to /pol/ about twice in my life, fuck that noise.

And with my God reference I was saying that it is difficult to refute the arguments made in that post because, like people do with the bible or koran, it uses its own axioms (aka statement of truth) as a foundation, and these "axioms" aren't necessarily true (so they're not actually axioms).

And again, his "axiom" of mental illness
>incapable of refraining from a biologically non-necessity
Would mean anyone with an addiction is mentally ill (which you might argue if you use the word degenerate regularly), but more importantly homosexuality does not necessarily fit into that category anyway, since many gays refrain from gay sex, it's called being in the closet. So all of its points are based on the author's own specious reasoning, and so the well is poisoned.

It's argued articulately and is an argument you probably agree with, but that doesn't make it correct. It's opinion with many irrelevant references, questionable analogies and a flimsy foundation.
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>>70488043
Gays are degenerate. I'm a fag myself so I can confirm it. Gay marriage? HAHAHAHA. Why? Just to reward promiscuity? Fags are disguisting. Just take a glance at /lgtb.

There is no gay love. Gay love means sticking as many dicks into one's boypucci as possible. Shallow, hedonistic perverts.
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>>70488056
not even pro-homo
but the first axiom is ridiculous
>masturbation is biologically a non-necessity
>lads who have the urge to wank are mentally ill.
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>>70492791
Hello Mehmet.
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>>70492791
>There is no gay love. Gay love means sticking as many dicks into one's boypucci as possible. Shallow, hedonistic perverts.

/thread
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>>70491464
>>70491695
>>70492186
>>70492850
>t. obsessed repressed homosexual
Normal people don't give a shit.
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>>70488043
>why has homosexual behavior been banned throughout history in so many different societies and religions?
>so many different societies and religions?
Only in the monotheistic ones FTFY
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>>70492824
So progressive and tolerant. Land of the free.
""""""""""""""Love""""""""""""""" wins!
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>>70492801
possibly the worst strawman I have ever seen in the history of the internet
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>>70488043
it is one of the lowest forms of beta male and failure
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>>70493755
You have to go back
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>>70493310
>anyone who opposes disgusting faggot behavior must be repressed faggot
Every time they run out of arguments they fall back on this.
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>>70492801
>I'm not a faggot but
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>>70494132
I'm actually saying that because you're the only one in that thread with no actual argument.
There's a difference between saying "faggots should kill themselves" and making a point.
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>>70493989
Triggered,Gayzilian? Gay death is near. Soon there are no more beautiful twink asses waiting for you. All gays end up being lonely and depressed creeps. As soon as you are old and ugly no one cares for you anymore. Sucking dicks won't give you children nursing you when you are old.

Gays are pathetic. Deal with it.
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>>70494227

>>70488056
First reply in thread said everything there is to say about this subject.
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>>70488104
Love this meme
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>>70494329
The incoherent ramblings of a mental case? Absolutely.
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>>70494329
So why do you feel the need to keep on being obnoxious then? Is it somehow improving the discussion?
It's an anonymous board you know, you don't have anything to prove.
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>>70494449
He's a Muslim immigrant, he feels no need to contribute positively to anything ever.
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>>70489421
>why does lesbianism appear to be absent from history

Because nobody cared enough, you can't get preggo from some chick fingering you.
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>>70489421
>why does lesbianism appear to be absent from history?

Because pretty much every fucking where women have had no rights and have been dependent on men to exist at all.
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>>70494269
I am not gay, more like bi, and by my 27-30s i want to marry(with a woman) and have kids, more like 9 cunts; and no, i am not religious, i just want to have many kids with an incredible woman. I will not want my kids to nurse me, i want to die in my own shit doing something amazing, thinking that i am proud for acomplishing everything i wanted

You on the other hand, are a pathetic loser, that will have miserable kids and for the wrong purpose. Your desert people religion is cancer and all of you should be smited, freedom isnt free, therefore, you have to go back Mehmed
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>>70488056
first post best post

>>70491980
>>70490115
That's not convincing enough damage control.
You can point out individual fallacies in that pic, but that's not enough to refute it in its entirety.
If you do feel it's important enough of you, you'd need to spend much more effort on refuting all the points and sources.
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>>70494940
HAHAHA. Even better. While marying your beloved wife you will not get those fleshy pulsating dicks out of your mind. You will cheat on her. I'm sorry for her.
At least you admit that you do not want to live the life of a casual fag knowing it is pathetic. You are the living proof.
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>>70488043
The real question is, is homosexuality an evolutionary mechanism for population control?
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>>70494844
Lesbianism was seen as less threatening to society than male homosexuality. A lot of men probably also found it hot.

>>70495810
Since only 3% of population is gay, probably not. at those small numbers it's not enough to make a difference.
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>>70495257
First that by "bi" i am active(trap and twinker fucker), and second that different from you i have real logical vallues, and purely str8 people can cheat their wifes as well - and they do.
Peacefull people from the same sex who love each other have their rights as any other people, you on the other hand, have to go back, and only coming back from a big fat door - from this giant wall of Turkey - where you will come in legally
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>go to third world country
>will get physically assaulted just because I love fucking man-ass
wow rude
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>>70488709
So you're bi then?
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>>70489986
Arguments made without proof can be discarded without proof.
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>>70488043
because AIDs and obnoxious fucking people
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>>70496030
>fucking traps
>values


Oh, okay.

You did not understand my point. Being bi is your backdoor out of a miserable gay existence. You are reassuring everything I said. You do not seek for a proper relationship with men. All you want is degenerate sex. You objectify men by classifying them into dumb categories (traps, twinks). You do not have any values. You are as pathetic as all the lgtb-scum.

There is nothing more pitiful than aging fags. The czech is right. They all should kill themselves. And so they will.
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It's just a common logic. Got a wound- wash it, got hungry-eat, got thirsty-drink, got a faggot-kill.
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>>70496489
>azerbaijan in charge of logic
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>>70496556
>sweden
Case dismissed.
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>>70491889
Underrated
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>>70491889
>tfw i was living the ultimate red pill life without knowing it
I'd still die for my girlfriends desu
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>>70496030
Disgraceful faggot. How I'd love to slam your homosexual face onto the concrete. Just show up here in SP to see what I'll do to you. I'll beat the shit you've got for brains out of your cocksucking head. You fucking faggot. How dare you live among real human beings. Your kind should be inside a cage being shown like the animals you are. HIV-infected aberration. You may be allowed to go outside your lair in your shitty state but come have a walk on the Paulista Avenue to see what me and my mates will do to you. Oh boy. You'd be the third one this year. Holy shit. We'd take this homosexuality out of you with our bare fists. Maybe you'd even enjoy it considering how subhuman you are. Who knows. Just come here and we'll find out.
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Because AIDS
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>>70496855
I am from Rio(city), and i would probably bash you and your m8s, i bench 110kg touching my chest and am 1,87m tall. Meet me in Lapa during the Carnaval, 1x1
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>>70488043
High mortality rates of desert people means every penny has to be productive, that translates into anti fag values in Jews, Christians and Muslims, that staid with western and middle Eastern societies long after it was truly needed. Same for snow religions.


Is just that, nothing more, fags are terrible but that's where historic reason.
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