China dick-flexing in response to Trump's provocations.

>>70481478
Cold War 2.0?

It's finally HAPPENING
It was worth the weight bois

WTF I support Great China

>>70481478

I hate it when boys show their dicks and do nothing but point them at each other, just use them faggots, go full nuclear on each other.

>Trump pisses off China, while at the same time antagonizing EU and neighbouring countries
He really wants that "USA versus the World" war. doesn't he?

Not really. The Chinese government hasn't confirmed anything, this is based off of a 7 second video of something that looks like a missile on a trailer going through an intersection.

>>70481734
Pretty much, I just want to know how they will partition the United States

>>70481678
You're aware that China vs USA will lead to a world war right?
That means conscription Pablo

>>70481734
Triggered britbongs incoming

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Imperialist scum BTFO

Sino-American war when?

Standard response, this shit happens all the time. It's never going to be happening.

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>>70481734
I legit doubt he fully understands the far ranging consequences on a lot of what he's doing

>>70481834
DELET THIS

>>70481907
Thank God for the congress being able to stop his shit

>>70481794
you can win, and it wouldn't be hard

>>70481770
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n_4bWbuRXlQ
Here's the video about it.

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>>70481925
>Thank God for the congress being able to stop his shit
Oh bless your heart.

They've done this shit for years. Bush era. Nigger era. Nobody paid any attention to it then though cause everyone knows these slant eyed fucks are all talk. They just mention it now to have ammo against Trump.

>>70481988
china will be a superpower by the end of trump's term

>>70481478
USA and Russia could make short work of China, they're out of their minds.

>>70482073
No they fucking won't

>>70482073
they already are ya donk
what you mean is world power

China's nuclear arsenal has extensive safeguards to prevent a rogue army general from seizing control of it. Their response time runs at a snail's pace because of that...the CCP is paranoid about keeping the army under their control.

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>>70481925
>Has signed 11 Executive Orders already

>>70481971
Most of the world powers against you, and most of our own civilians resistant against Trump, it's most likely a loss rather than a victory

>>70482157
Details pl0x.

>>70482252
Still not as bad as Obama

JAINAH

>>70481809

not for me Daan, also a nuclear war between both would leave europe completely safe from the fallout.

>>70482148
no, they are a great power, not a superpower

cant usa and china be friends? why did it have to end up like this...

>>70481734
>protect the European countries with the US military >for free
>asks for fair deals now
>wtf why does trump hate us ;_;
I hope Russia invades and fixes your shit countries. Except Finland. You all seem right to me. Isolationist country here we come.

>>70482301
The designated missile launcher has to go on a 1000 km drive on a bus driven by a tiny drunk Chinese lady without crashing

>>70481988
Hell no, we had decent relations with Obama while Trump is not only openly antagonizing us but OPENLY conspiring our destruction.

After Ted Malloc it's no longer a question as to if relations will utterly crumble, only when.

>>70482301
China's nuclear arsenal does not keep warheads mounted on missiles and they're also not fueled. In addition, several different branches of the PLA are in charge of the nuclear arsenal, all so that no one general can fire off a missile. This is done largely out of fear of the PLA going rogue. If the command were given to fire an ICBM, it could take half an hour to prep it.

Because of all this, their nuclear response time is comparable to the US/USSR circa 1963, also their nuclear arsenal is small and mainly designed to strike Pacific targets such as the West Coast of North America rather than globally.

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All part of the plan

>>70482280
Strangely enough the idea of grand strategy is to isolate your enemies from each other, not unite them against yourself.

You'd think someone would pull Trump aside and suggest that maybe perhaps he's doing the single worst possible move

>>70481478
China has like 20 ICBMs compared to several hundreds american ones
Also their infrastructure can be completely crippled by conventional strike on dams

>>70481478
Hope you guys kill each other until no one lasts.

>>70482348

Because you subhuman monkeys are stealing our wealth and jobs, while getting more and more big-headed and thinking your shit doesn't stink. No more noveau riche ex-farmer gooks buying Lamborghinis and property in Vancouver.. That money belongs to Americans.

I also believe a Chinese-run world will be 10x as worse as a Japanese-run world would have been. You gooks are all soulless psychopaths that lack human empathy.

>>70482547
please send cheap coke

>>70482457
>>70482543
Their missiles are all liquid fueled as well I thought? They don't have any solid fueled ones.

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>>70481478
>Seppos voted for Trump because "Hillary will start World War 3"

>>70482566
This guy gets it

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>>70482280
>most of our civilians
Wrong. Unless you count millenials as the majority

>>70482566
The benefit of a China-run world is that they don't have your pompous ego and would be easy to work with for at least a century before they need to be cut down to size.

Those workhours look terrible though.

>>70482601
I wonder ironically what the consequences would be if anime really was banned in US

>>70482634
You think China doesn't have an ego? Kek

>>70482671
Not what I said. They don't have YOUR ego. The kind of ego that uses treaties like toilet paper because fuck everyone.

>>70482654
Wouldn't work. Shit like this banned though.
>>>/gif/9994747

>>70482654
Massive celebrations, parades in the streets, weebs forced underground, mass arrests at conventions

You are really regarded as an irredeemable social pariah if you're a weeb here

>>70482729
Nah. Fuck you. Ain't babysitting your faggot asses anymore. Build up your own military now. This is what you wanted isn't it? Less American intervention? Now you're butt flustered you're getting it?

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>>70482543
They also have never been able to build a working jet engine, in part because R&D money keeps disappearing through mass theft.

See here. This guy was caught embezzling tens of thousands of yuan back two years ago, but died before they could convict him of anything

American hegemony begone

>people ignoring that this isn't actually true, it's just the faction of the CCP that opposes Xi Jinping spreading fake news because Xi just went to the UN to call for a world without nukes, so they're trying to make him look like a hypocrite

>>70481478
Now we all gonna die. Well done sharts shot fatties.

>>70482762
Do you even know what country this is? You've needed our help for the past 60 years to serve your interests, not the other way around.

Why are you all trying to downplay this? It's still pretty worrying

Are you all teenagers or something so you aren't scared of getting drafted? Or do you all live in bumfuck nowhere so you aren't scared of bombs dropping on you?

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>>70482811
Lel whatever you say, Sven.

>>70482762
W-we are a close second r-right?

https://youtu.be/j-xxis7hDOE?t=39

>>70482830
It's fucking China. They're called a paper tiger for a reason.

>>70482830
See
>>70482792
>>70481974
At least I'm downplaying it because it's mostly not true.

>>70482792
>people ignoring that this isn't actually true, it's just the faction of the CCP that opposes Xi Jinping
This faction is headed by Jiang Zemin's sons, and he himself is still manipulating politics behind the scenes despite being 90 years old and officially retired.

>>70482830
>drafted in a nuclear war
o i am laffin

Aside from that, I'm of draft age and the thing is that in a conventional war the west literally and figurative anally penetrates everyone else. Only now are we seeing some advances, such as the Armata and new Tu-XX series of planes coming out of Russia, along with their new missiles. They are no longer the primary issue now that China is Trump's focus.

China's military is shaky at best. They have zerg potential over anything else and their gear is falling behind in the times. It's a numbers game of bombs, missiles, and bullets for western logistics in the event of a war with them.

Also related, if Trump makes relations good enough with Russia, it could end up essentially the world vs China, or the new major globalist faction in geopolitics.

India fucks China from the west with their own zerg rush, US & Coalition Navy and Air Force fucks up the junkers along the east.

China having smaller nuclear stockpiles also makes something like this a bit more likely, compared to something with Russia.

Also the Chinese economy relies on everyone else, if the world (figuratively) went to war with them, they would have a hungry population with fewer and fewer jobs with less resources each day.

REALLY bad place for China, and they're kind of fucked in any scenario like this.

>>70482860
Dude, you couldn't beat Vietnam. China is big and has actual resources, and their people are used to hardship unlike yours.

3 bombs over america and your dumb gun-toting populace will be sieging the white house demanding your surrender. Meanwhile in China you get shot for wearing your hair the wrong way.

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>>70482845
Honestly, I couldn't care less if we kept American troops in Europe. I agree with Trump that NATO countries should start paying their fair dues.
>>70482916
Different scenario in a different age. Comparing apples to oranges here, Sven.

>>70482916
>Dude, you couldn't beat Vietnam
Actually we more-or-less did, except that the traitorous Democrat left undermined the war effort.

>>70482830

nuclear missiles flying all over the pacific would pass completely unnoticed in europe and as I said before we would be safe from the fallout, also, since we are completely irrelevant strategically conscription is not even a possibility.

>>70482941
If Greece of all countries can pay, why can't the rest?

We have 10x as many nuclear missiles
We have the worlds only working all-stage (boost, ballistic, descent) anti-ballistic missile systems
We have mobile X-band radar systems and mobile anti-ballistic missile systems
We have global-reach, all-stealth strategic bomber fleets
We have the best or second best air-superiority fighters

China has shit-tier clones of 1970s Soviet military hardware and they're afraid to let PLA commanders do anything on their own so as to prevent a military coup from happening.

And then there are the secret weapons, who can say for those?

>>70482792
>everything that doesn't fit my narrative is fake news
Post proofs fgt

>>70482941
>Different scenario in a different age

Yeah. You were way more awesome then. Do you think picking fights you can't win is something only other nations do, or what?

>>70482954
That's what I'm saying, people are much much more rebellious nowadays. Just look at the Iraq war, people were mad even as you were doing everything you could to pull out of it.

>>70482992
Greece has an actual reason to have a big militairy because Turkey pretty much raped them raw in the past century.

>>70483025
I did, earlier in the thread, from a very anti China source even.

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And it's yet another episode of "Fat neckbeards who've never served a day in their nation's military play keyboard general on /int/ and act like 5-star military officers."

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>>70482962
US Gets attacked, you're obligated by NATO to join in

Unless your nation is filled with cowards

>>70483036
Iraq had no justification

Stomping China into the dirt is fine by us, they're economic leeches and their tourists are shit

>>70482799
>Now we all gonna die
Nah, just you guys on the northern hemisphere.

>>70482830
This isn't the first time China has puffed out its chest and it won't be the last. They're all bark and no bite.

>>70481478
>China dick-flexing

What dick?

>>70483036
>you can't win
Are you fucking serious? The country that relies heavily on American exports is a fight we cant win? Seriously hope you're baiting here. Or are you drunk on Muslim cum?
>>70483055
True true but 2% of your total gdp cannot be that much, can it?

>>70483059
You're not talking about that infowars-tier youtube video that didn't actually refute anything, are you?

>>70482954
vietnam was so fucking poor and undeveloped back then, yet """superior""" american soldiers accomplished absolutely nothing (in before kill death ratio which doesnt matter in the end). not to mention the trouble they had with afghani goat farmers living in caves. and they think they can annihilate china easy.

You have to remember also that China is still pretty poor and Third World by most statistics. Their per capita GDP is about 6800 USD. Russia even has a per capita GDP of around 14,000 USD.

>>70483160
>vietnam was so fucking poor and undeveloped back

Ignoring all the Soviet equipment and military advisers giving them a leg up?

>>70483154
>China uncensored
>Infowars tier

>>70483131
>what is a nuclear winter

>>70483243
Adventure Time (accurately) predicts that we're the only survivors

>>70483165
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28nominal%29_per_capita

russia is literally $1000 above china lmao

>>70483243
Something you guys in the northern hemisphere will experience if things stay on course, while we eat empanadas, asado with vino and cerveza :^)

>>70483429
I didn't know the Inti afterlife had a menu.

>>70483599
>inti afterlife
what?

>>70482906
>Also related, if Trump makes relations good enough with Russia, it could end up essentially the world vs China, or the new major globalist faction in geopolitics.

Kek, Merkel and their exklaves beg to differ.
Either you play by our rules or you will fail. China is too big for you, and Russia will just jump on the best looking ship at the best possible time, like you guys in both World Wars.
India though is a joke and have meme army with heavily downgraded Russian weapons and jets.
The time of US american hegemony is over (just look in MENA, South America, SEast Asia and now Europe)
.Germany and China are the leaders now.
Chinks will see their fate very soon aswell.

>>70483149
Because we know big fuzzy bear America will protect us.
And it isn't really enforced by NATO. I bet if they said "every country in NATO has to reach 2% GDP within x months else you're out" we wouldn't be deepthroating American dick that much

>China has been antagonistic and confrontation for years under Obama
>Stealing state secrets and pay countries for information of other countries nuclear capabilities
>Literally using countries like Canada and other western countries as a giant money laundering operation paying in nothing but Yuan to make the west beholden to China
>Full of corrupt white collar criminals and the scum of the earth in ever echelon of Chinese society
>It's flexing it's nuts even more now that the USA told it to get fucked
>All it takes to trigger the Chinese is a phone call from Taiwan in congratulations to Trump
>Somehow it's all Trumps fault

Really joggin the ol' noggin right now.

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>Mfw the wall is being built to keep Americans IN and not Mexicans OUT.

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>>70481925
About that.

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>>70484000
Trips confirm.

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>>70484000

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>>70484000
Well that's what the last giant pointless wall was for

SERIOUSLY WHY DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING

I just realized that Trump's wall is going to have so much graffiti. Put a few frogs there for me, will you?

>>70482312
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. He's on his way to way more exec orders than obama, even though he has both houses of congress.

>>70482393
>protect the European countries with the US military >for free
The whole point was to emasculate Europe and keep it dependent to US help. It helps your industry and annihilate competition through hard power.
The last thing you want them to do is growing balls, create a federal army and competing for the title of World Police.

>>70484245
Congress is going to oppose him because he isn't a "proper" republican so he'll probably be FDR levels of executive orders.

>>70484327
This, ameritards are retarded or at least those who vote/believe Trump

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>>70481809
>That means conscription Pablo
I'm pretty sure your average Spanish poster will be in the psychiatrist's office when the draft board comes knocking

>>70481809
>>70484408
>Spain
>Partaking in world wars

You get an F in history, come see me after class for a spanking

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>>70481925
>Thank God for the congress being able to stop his shit

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>>70484358
Not nearly as much as you're implying.

Trump will definitely side with the Democrats on one or two minor things, like abortion or imprisoning Obama. But we're talking like *maybe* 2% of the time.

Did you not see the people that support him? Some disenfranchised Democrats, but a fuck ton of them were Tea Party fanatics and Republican faithful. They expect a very conservative President, and that's just what they'll get. Or there will be hell to pay.

>>70484543
I think that his constitutes expect him to bring back manufacturing jobs and not cut shit like social security and medicare like he promised. If he acts like a typical free trade neoliberal republican they'll be mad.

>>70484600
>ss and medicaid
He already said he supports Paul Ryan's plan to do so.

>>70482327
It would destroy the world economy, as well as a large section of the planet.

Even if you the climate effects of a nuclear war didn't reach you (they would) then you would still be left the economic fallout.

>>70482348
So long as you recognize the Taiwanese people's wish for self governance I would gladly be friendly with China. Then again I have no say in the matter.

>>70484600
Social Security is actually pretty useless and also encourages irresponsible behavior as exemplified by the scores of stupid baby boomers who didn't save for their retirement because they never understood that SS was nothing more than a very minimal stipend to prevent the elderly from sleeping on the sidewalk.

I'm not saying it should be gotten rid of, just that government welfare invariably leads to personal irresponsibility.

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>>70481478
>Britain to sail its new flagship aircraft carrier with a squadron of Typhoons through the disputed South China Sea in show of strength aimed at China
>HMS Queen Elizabeth will sail through the contested zone in 2020
>The 72,000 ton, £3bn vessel will be armed with F35-B jets and helicopters
>RAF Typhoon fighter jets will also fly over the South China Sea next year

We all love a good dick-flexing now and again, even with ramps.

>>70484751
>sail through in 2020

It'll be completely China's by then, lol.

>>70486103
Not with their floating sardine can navy it's not.

>>70484751
what's with the ramp

>>70486132
Oh Cletus, they don't need a navy to take over the SCS.

that's too close to home.
Stay away from my island you fucks
I don't want a nuclear winter in my part of the planet.

we still haven't recovered from the japs radiation ether just fuck off you two.

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>>70486361
heh, i guess you could say you lads would be wiped off the map

>>70481478
Most overrated military in the world, these faggots are surrounded by enemies and internal treats.
It's a giant with feet of clay.

>>70486425
>Most overrated military in the world
Nah Russia is more overrated.

>>70482601
Why wouldn't they?

It was the younger generation's fault that you lost Vietnam

>>70483637
>Germany and China are the leaders now
No

>>70482280
>most of our own civilians
Just because the Left has a monopoly on the media doesn't mean it's excusable to fall to the belief that you far-leftists are in any way the majority or even capable of orchestrating proper resistance to your propagandized devil.

You try to start anything like that and the major cities that all your voting block solely resides in will be blockaded by the rest of the country in an instant and will become planet of the apes within 36 hours. I might even pop down to witness some of the fun, I'm sure there will be a spare rifle laying around for me.

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BASED CHINA

>>70482830
You'd need to have the political acumen of a child to find this worrisome in the slightest. Grow up.

>>70487795
>that flag
>that post

>>70487852
CHYNA NUMBA WAN

>>70487864
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgmRRqUYBpg

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>when the next WW happens on the other side of the world

>>70483036
>people are much much more rebellious nowadays
Fuck no you deluded child. People are whinier nowadays and much louder about it, but are all too damn lazy and comfy for any actual rebelliousness. You'll go on a pointless march somewhere then head home to your dieing country and tell yourself the lie that you did something worthwhile that day.

>>70483895
Underrated post.

>>70484110
>berlin wall
>pointless
Learn some history.

>>70481478
fuck USA, we need to ally with china .

>>70481834
Pretty sure Jong Un should be fatter

>>70482906
No way is Russia gonna isolate themselves by antagonizing China after they've just antagonized the EU. They're having their own pivot to Asia and they ain't gonna back out of it.

As for China's military being shaky: they wrested a draw from you in Korea at a time when your relative power was at its highest in history and they were still really backwards. Imagine what they can do with an economy that in PPP terms has surpassed yours and all their fancy equipment they've been building up over the last two decades.

>>70482830
>Or do you all live in bumfuck nowhere so you aren't scared of bombs dropping on you?
Yes, exactly. I just hope the US, China, India and Russia get bombed to oblivion. Is it too much to ask?

>>70481478
nothing new
>>70481579
its been happening since before

>>70491716
If they do, you'll die as well.

>>70481809

>Trump talks shit on China
>Gets nuked the fuck out
>'B-but that'll mean conscription and shit to go help innocent little dindu Donald'

Yeah, no Cornelius.

>>70481971

War is about resources. Apart of their hat, anglostan, taiwan and maybe the jew, there's not many more that Trumpmerica hasn't chimped out on and antagonized against.

>>70482393
>>protect the European countries with the US military >for free
not for free also you don't seem to understand basic geopolitics, Europe is in America's sphere of influence and that benefits you actually, as long as you have enough power to maintain that presence
>asks for fair deals now
ahahahha $57k gdp per capita USA is crying that it's major trade deals somehow aren't "fair" kek

Trump doesn't want any "fair" trade deals, he wants that the rest of the world bows down to America and lives in deep shit. The only thing he will get is a trade war.

The thing is current situation benefits most of american companies which thanks to moving production to cheaper countries can be more competitive. The only people who lose on this are uneducated Americans who dont understand their jobs won't ever ensure them a high quality life, and who refuse to be employed in services.

I am honestly supporting China. Fuck the Americans.

>Hillary would start a NUCULAR WAR xDDD

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>>70492140
You realize China is insanely butthurt about Europeans. The first thing chinese would do in the abscence of american influence would be depose european governments and make them pay for the 100 years of humillation.

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>>70492208
>mfw this was literally the last mudslinging /pol/ came up with just before the election because, and I quote, "hrc would set up a no-fly zone in syria and literally force russia to go to nuclear war with america".

Easily in my top ten biggest bullshit I've ever heard tbqh. And they legitimately believed it.

>>70492279
.t China pro

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Bring it on chinky

>>70492279
Whatever. Fuck America. Go China. China is a respectable country with history. America is a disgusting mutt of a nation, artificial and low IQ.

>>70492409
She literally said she wanted to set up a no-fly zone though.

>>70486199

The advantages of STVOL outweighed the advantages of CTOL.

>>70492636
Of course, but jumping from a no fly zone to nuclear war is retarded.

>>70492662
Do you honestly think it would make Russia stop aiding Assad in bombing ISIS? Hillary would either have to shoot down Russian planes or admit defeat. It would be an extremely precarious situation.

>>70492710
She wanted to set up an no-fly zone BEFORE Russians got directly involved.

>>70492710
She would strongly condemn russian violation of no fly zone and that would be the end of it.
Also this >>70492760

>>70491725
>its been happening since before
wew

>>70492877
>it was HAPPENING before it was even HAPPENING

rly tickled the ol stem

>>70491305
>As for China's military being shaky: they wrested a draw from you in Korea at a time when your relative power was at its highest in history and they were still really backwards

China lost over one million guys in Korean War and almost went bankrupt from cost of war effort. the only reason US didn't liberate all of Korea was political factors (mostly to prevent Soviet intervention).

>and all their fancy equipment they've been building up over the last two decades
Wait isn't Chinese army all inferior clone of Russian equipment?

>>70481734
I'm not happy about any of that except China. They are a looming threat.\ a\that need to be leashed.

>>70493169
I'm not convinced that giving chinks external enemy to justify misery and repression with is the way to do this but good luck if he wants to outreagan them I guess.

50L nothing happens

>>70483189
The fact remains that a bunch of hippies on acid with an m16 is not really top tier when it comes to war

>>70493376
It was opium tbhwy

>>70482438
>Ted Malloc
the EU should reject him as an ambassador, they have full rights to do so and its not an uncommon practice. Accepting that man is bending over to the US

>>70493376
>Hungary
>shittalking about other countries martial prowess
How about how you have capital occupied by Romanians in 1919 and then join Germany in Operation Barbarossa and most of Hungarian army freeze to death on Russian steppe. gjge.

>>70493376
You watch too many movies.
And our niggers with M16s shredded the gooks, it was the hippies on acid back home who lost that war.

>>70493169
I think China is exaggerated menace myself.

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>>70484000
FUCK

>>70493057
>China lost over one million guys in Korean War and almost went bankrupt from cost of war effort. the only reason US didn't liberate all of Korea was political factors (mostly to prevent Soviet intervention).
Irrelevant. In war only results matter. Jerk off over k/d ratios and tactical excellence all you want. Won't help you in the end.

>Wait isn't Chinese army all inferior clone of Russian equipment?
no

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>>70492602
>Dies in a nuclear explosion

>>70493683
It can feel that way to us because there's illusion that distance makes us safe from them, but I wouldn't want them for neighbors. Better to have russia as a buffer.

>>70493057
Other thing is that China in 1950s had loads of battlefield experience from civil war and fighting Japanese. Modern day chink army has no combat experience at all.

>>70493703
>Wait isn't Chinese army all inferior clone of Russian equipment?
>no
It is. do some research. they can't even make working jet engine.

>>70493258
America was already an enemy. It wasn't so overt but there was no friendship there before.

>>70493683
I couldn't imagine you would see it in Eastern Europe. But anyway, I'm talking about down the line. They are growing and I think China will play very dirty if it gets substantial power. That's why I think they need to be curbed before it's too late. Although it's stupid to alienate allies like Trump is doing while going after China.

My guess is he's hedging his bets on India overtaking China and fostering a friendship with them from the beginning so we have a strong alliance as opposed to China which will never be that way.

>>70493703
So you mean like when you killed 27 million Russians but they still occupy you and rape over 1 million German women?

>>70493915
>do some research
do it yourself

>>70494070
correct

>>70492634
China was. Since the Commies took power, China is just a shithole. Real China is Taiwan.

>>70492877
the we wuz's english sounds strange to me.
i mean, i thought his usage of it was another /pol/ shit, and this news isnt actually new. so i just copied the whole sentence the meme way. tho you made me decide to stop doing such things. will never try it.

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And these are just the official numbers. Who knows how many more billions of dollars the chinese are pouring into their army via state owned companies and other unreported means. Give them a decade or so and I wouldn't be surprised if the chinese had carrier strike groups stationed in the gulf of mexico and baja california.

>>70494974
In a decade the Chinese economy will be completely stagnant. They are what Japan was in the 80's a couple years ago and looked invincible. Not anymore. The future hegemony of Asia will be India.

>>70494974
LOLno. China's per capita GDP is less than 10,000 USD. they're a lot poorer than it would seem. also corruption in government and military are endemic. R&D money for new weapons systems constantly gets siphoned off. they've trebled their defense spending in the past 20 years, but inflation has eaten up a good part of that.

>>70483429

That world will only have Chile and Argentina

>>70495248
>t. Pajeet

>>70494779
>real China
>the idiots who lost to fucking peasants despite superior training, supplies, industry etc.
They deserve to be stuck on a tiny island and eventually annexed.

>>70495248
>India
>future hegemony
Tell me when they reach even China's level of per capita GDP, lol.

>>70495338
Was 11000USD since 2013, lol.

>>70492279
what

they might dislike the british, but most euros have had little to do with china

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>>70492634

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>>70497739
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Imperialism#China

>>70481478
Nukes vs Trade war?
Seems that they would be a little more patient than to jump directly to last resorts.

>>70481925
>Thank God for the congress being able to stop his shit

Jajjajajajajaj

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>You will live to see WW3

Will it get any better than this?

Can't Americans impeach him before he starts a war?
I'm not saying that this should be done right now, but in case he goes nuts.

>>70499799
let them fall if they want, why would you wanna stop that?

>>70499930
A whole nations shouldn't be punished because of a single tyrant.

>>70482348
>chinks
>talk about friendship
HAHAHA

Like the fucking world blinded with your work during two thousand years

>>70499975
how is trump a tyrant you fagot?

>>70500297
Well he did just ban an entire religion from entering the country. Sounds pretty tyrannical to me.

>>70493057
>Wait isn't Chinese army all inferior clone of Russian equipment?
Do they still use any of the old russian equipment they purchased after their failed attempt at dick waving in '95?

>>70500297
He signs 3 executive orders per day, pretty tyrant to me

>>70500366
no he didnt
and thats not what tyrant means

>>70482312

You just fell for alternative meme facts.Obama signed one of the lowest number of executive orders.

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>tfw euros and BRs crying about trump 24/7

>>70482906
>India fucks China from the west with their own zerg rush,

India is not going Zerg or rush into anything. China and US killing each other is best for India. Plus the Himalayas especially on Indian side font allow for Zerg rushes.

>>70481478
>China and the USA nuke the living shit out of one other
Nothing of worth was lost.

>>70500474
>and thats not what tyrant means
tyrannical
tJˈranJk(ə)l,tʌJˈranJk(ə)l/
adjective
exercising power in a cruel or arbitrary way.

>no he didnt
yes he did

>>70482906
China's military in terms of equipment is actually quite good. Their Achilles' heel is their Navy, their training is probably not as good as ours but who can say

>>70500771
>he says as he types in English

What a cuck.

>>70482954
We accomplished shit other than bombing bombing and bombing. Don't blame anyone muhhh left for our inability to do jack shit against rice gooks. Vietnam was a failure

>>70500723
>BRs
Most hues don't give a fuck or actually like him, even the media.
The death of TPP and Trump as a whole is actually a big opportunity for us if we play our cards right.

>>70482312
>one week in office
>easily has tripled the amount of executive orders obama has made by that time

>>70483637

>Kek, Merkel and their exklaves beg to differ. Either you play by our rules or you will fail.

Europe runs the way we want. If push comes to shove we can and we will enforce that

>China is too big for you,

Militarily, not really. USN alone can btfo them and have something to spare.

>India though is a joke and have meme army with heavily downgraded Russian weapons and jets.

India can anyday kick your shit in militarily Hans. And if conventional fails they can just nuke you and be done with it.

>The time of US american hegemony is over

Only we decide that.


>Germany and China are the leaders now

Go home Hans. You're drunk.

>>70500366
There's absolutely nothing wrong with banning countries with highest amount of suicidal fanatics

>>70483637
Are you Krauts really this delusional?

At least we can recognize when we are in the shit.

>>70501152
Racist! Look how well it's working out in Europe. We only have Shootings in major European capitals every couple months now! You're a racist if you don't like rape gangs too.

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>>70501193
Impale sand diggers

>>70486228
They need a navy to get through us though

>>70501152
I never made a moral judgement, but it was objectively arbitrary and autocratic and thus tyrannical.

Isn't that headline basically saying that it's the fault of sensationalist newspapers urging China to brace themselves?
Lmao leftist American media are so mad Shillary lost that they are starting wars now

>>70493703
>no
Yes.

All their equipment in service are ripoffs or slight improvement off soviet equipment

>>70500366
fats are always with gunz. there its easy to get it so when things go worse or look to them, they cant help but take another lowbrow extreme shit like that. its been always the world of extreme. didnt you know it?

>>70501506
Agreed, Japan needs to take muslim refugees and more immigration from the Islamic world

>>70501686
is that an irony or something. too weak

>>70501721
No-No. I think Japan needs more Islamic immigration seeing as how you're not hypocrites.

>>70501785
no offence but are you a muslim?

>>70501820
I'm not. Just trying to be consistent with your condemnation of the Americans.

>>70501855
such an ameribooooooooo

>>70501884
Japan needs more Muslims you bigot

>>70501311
Yeah, I agree that the media is shit, but when wasn't it?
Now, I still think that Trump is a retard. He's playing with world like it was a War game and that's not how it works. We've just got off of huge violent wars, we don't need more. He needs to calm down a little.

>>70501933
Why is China being antagonistic the fault of Trump?

>>70501269
Yes so is imprisoning hundred thousands of japanese americans, which was an executive order

Shit like that is well within every president's power

>>70501434
>All their equipment in service are ripoffs or slight improvement off soviet equipment
no

>>70501931
im not a bigot tho. anyway, what i wanted to say is that they might live in a democratic society but havent lived in a secure society. they arent good at balancing between those. the reason why immigrants can be perils is just because of guns . same gores for things going on in ghettos leading up to racism. guns are the main problem.

>>70502282
Then why is Japan is the only nation that does not give citizenship to Muslims and restrict Permanent residency to Muslims while banning the import of the Koran in Arabic? You don't have guns or gun advocacy in any meaningful way. Practice what you preach, hmmm.

>>70502440
>the only nation that does not give citizenship to Muslims and restrict Permanent residency to Muslims
>while banning the import of the Koran in Arabic?
total false hogwash or way exaggerated. cant even imagine where you got it from, maybe some off topic thread on some anime forum that is full of sensitive naive crying weebs.

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>>70482393
>>for free

>>70482906
>Also related, if Trump makes relations good enough with Russia, it could end up essentially the world vs China
Lol

You meant the world vs USA/Russia

>>70482954
>2017
>living in a modern country with unlimites internet acess, public libraries and many other sources of information
>believing this

Ffs what is going in the US? At least the vatniks have the excuse of being completely brainwashed by state propaganda rewriting history books and shit.

>>70502731
But it's absolutely true and you even have blanket surveillance on the Japanese citizens who have converted to Islam without any protest.

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/community/2016/07/13/issues/shadow-surveillance-looms-japans-muslims/

>>70493915
[Citation needed]

WS-15 is on the J-10B

How could China ever hope to copy our nuclear strategy in time in the event of an all out strike?

Their army of spies would need to work double time

>>70495248
>>70495338
[Citation needed]

These are real inflation adjusted figures

>>70500787
wrong
gtfo back to plebit plz

>>70500051
>Viets
>any friends at all

>>70500787
Uhh no he didn't chulo

>>70503325
nope
no u

>>70501434
[Citation needed]

The J-20? J-10?
QBZ -98
T99
Type-45?

>>70494974
>Give them a decade or so and I wouldn't be surprised if the chinese had carrier strike groups stationed in the gulf of mexico and baja california.
yeah i'm sure that would make for a great anime plot but the reality is much different.

>>70501993
How is China being antagonistic?

Is a nation not allowed to move weaponry in its own sovereign territory?

>>70503508
>The J-20? J-10?
shit

>QBZ -98
shit.

>T99
shit

>Type-45
lmao what

>>70503529
Care to explain why?

The Liaoning already sailed east of Japan. In a decade with the other three carriers built, they could do that.

>>70503529
hmm yes it might take another week or two to alienate mexico enough to allow the chinese to establish navy base there

after all you really have to hate the country you're supplying the chinese with bases against

>>70503568
>Is a nation not allowed to move weaponry in its own sovereign territory?

Of course, but don't be naive it's sending a message in real world geopolitics.

>China has been antagonistic and confrontation for years under Obama
>Stealing state secrets and pay countries for information of other countries nuclear capabilities
>Literally using countries like Canada and other western countries as a giant money laundering operation paying in nothing but Yuan to make the west beholden to China
>Full of corrupt white collar criminals and the scum of the earth in ever echelon of Chinese society
>It's flexing it's nuts even more now that the USA told it to get fucked
>All it takes to trigger the Chinese is a phone call from Taiwan in congratulations to Trump
>Somehow it's all Trumps fault

Dindunoffin

>>70482348
>wanting to be "friends" with the biggest power monger imperialists on the planet


Chow Ming Chink you should know better than that


there is only room for 1 at the top of the mountain

>>70503685
>>70503657
>CHINA IS GOING TO PULL 20 GORRILION CARRIERS OUT OF ITS ASS IN 10 YEARS AND PLACE THEM ALL IN GULF OF MEXICO TAKE DAT LAOWAI
get over yourselves

>>70482393
> >for free
>tfw when the US is the janitor of the world

>>70500821
Hahaha, aw tondóstōnə

>>70503889
well they're making plans, sort of
http://www.popsci.com/chinese-shipyard-looks-build-giant-floating-islands

>>70503718
>but don't be naive it's sending a message in real world geopolitics.

It is?

Because
1. China already had DF-10's and DF-20's on its coast.
2. China keeps the nuclear warhead separate from the missile.
3. Trump, Tillerson, Navarro, and Sessions have all vocally said that they will "force China out of the islands in the SCS".

So please tell me again, how is China being antagonistic? If it's not reported in China by state media, it's not important.

>>70481734
>world war
More like "everyone is the enemy, stay by my side". You know, soviet time stuff.

>>70503022
>http://www.japantimes.co.jp
all i can tell to you is thats fucking blown up. for what its worth, this media outlet is fucking trash. its just the worst kind of yellow journalism blatantly pandering to gaijin expats and weebs, pretending to be serious. dont trust and swallow anything on there. there're only weeb-bait articles based on "we jap journos are super international desu, we sympathize with hakujin-sama and minorities sama who love japan but cant get into some points. we can explain everything about it, tell the truths of japan and the real dark sides of it to you all dayo" fedora criteria. everything they do is either fedora or bait. or else only cringy. very superficial and inflammatory. dont read it. its all fucking garbage.

>>70503998
they'd be better off creating a knockoff of hawaii, cyprus or some other foreign tourist joint.

>>70482393
We get a lot out of influence out of that, and many countries in Europe do put money into their own defense. But why even complain about this when Trump still wants to increase our own military spending instead of making cuts? It's pointlessly making a demand for nothing. We'll still be spending all the same money plus more, and only have antagonized allies.

>>70481478
Do it China, DESTROY CALI

>>70504025
>It is?

Yes

Regardless of your 3 points China has moved advanced Dongfeng-41 ICBMs near the Russian border. It's sending a clear message. This is being confrontational.

>If it's not reported in China by state media, it's not important.

Ah yes, because every act of Chinese aggression is reported in the Chinese state media. You're joking?

>>70484675

LOL, you start chalenging the world and as soon problems come you expect other to support you and bail you out, the thruth is that this is getting absolutely nowhere since both your nations don't have the balls to start it but you reap what you sow and after Trump don't expect europe's help on anything.

I really can't wait for things to escalate with the chinks new artificial Island, I got 3 big boxes of popcorn prepared for when it starts.

>>70504240
>t. Johnny Flyover

>some chinese newspaper emitted x opinion
>western news report it as "CHINA IS DOING X"
Why do they keep doing this? Do they really unironically pay a ton of people to just translate every single Chinese opinion blog and look for any sensationalistic ideas to blow out of proportion?

I'm really starting to get sick and tired of this MSM meme.

>>70504184
they already have hainan

>>70504181
>Anything showing our governments treatment of muslims is weeb/western propaganda.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/06/top-court-green-lights-surveillance-japan-muslims-160629040956466.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/muslims-japan-government-surveillance-top-court-green-lit-islamaphobia-a7109761.html

Okay

>>70491862
You will only have the eternal anglo to protect europe from the ruskies at that point.

>>70504296
its not aggression when they move missiles with range of 10 thousand km inside their country

>>70504311
I live in Pennsylvania, the most highly respected state

>>70504425
Deploying weapons, let alone nukes, close to borders with other nations is usually a signal of hostility. This is not simply a deterrent.

>>70504336
hainan is for gay poorfags

>>70504424
Can you even find spain on the map? Canada is literally twice as close
Go find some protection yourself then worry about spaniards

>>70504311
no one likes cali not even the east coast.

>>70504466
of course it is simply a deterrent
they're fucking nukes, the definition of the thing

>>70504474
but didn't you say cyprus? hainan is probably a tad more expensive than that

>>70504531
>of course it is simply a deterrent

Only if you're an idiot. This isn't exactly subtle.

>they're fucking nukes, the definition of the thing

No, in this case this is a show of force and hostility.

>people unironically think China will station their navy in fucking Mexico
I swear you people are worse than the Indian "superpooper by 2030!" crowd sometimes.

Before China ever got even slightly close to doing any such thing, the US could easily go Crimea all over Mexico. I mean, ffs, even Russia, which isn't nearly as wealthy or powerful as the US, annexed foreign territory just to prevent any form of encroachment on their territory or any disabling of their naval capabilities.

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>>70481974
That's the wrong video.

As expected of that shit channel.

The talk is about the DF-41, not the DF-31/A which was shown during the 2009 and 2015 military parades.

And that's the video everyone is talking about:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep3IHxHCWyY

It is actually quite likely that China has deployed two brigades of DF-41 to Heilongjiang.

Each brigade has 12 missiles and 12 reloads, so China may have 48 DF-41s pointed at the US at this moment, each carrying 10 MIRVed nuclear warheads.

>>70504296
>moving weaponry in your sovereign territory is a provocation
Wow okay

I'm pro-Trump and voted for him but you are a bullshitting faggot. Kill yourself. "Provocation" is when you use an offensive measure. Not when you defend your own borders.

>Ah yes, because every act of Chinese aggression is reported in the Chinese state media.
Not what I stated you stupid cunt.
China's state media reports the governments desires. It doesn't report military secrets and locations of missiles for no reason.

>>70504328
Because Global Times is the Breitbart of China and because sometimes government employees do op-eds on it, it must be "state-owned".

It's not actually. It's private. Like the Asashi Shimbun it is nationalist though.

>>70482157
>>70482457

That's not true anymore, though.

Chinese nuclear submarines have been patroling the South China Sea for years now, and they actually do carry nuclear warheads.

Get that 1960s shit out of your head please. It's not the cultural revolution anymore.

>>70482591
DF-11, DF-15, DF-16, DF-21 series, DF-26, DF-31/A and DF-41 is solid fuel

The only liquid fueled is the DF-5 and DF-4 that are still in service in low numbers.

>>70504307
You moron. A total nuclear war would mean every single day, for at least 4 years, the temperature in Spain would fall below freezing.

Have you seen the climate of Svalbard? That would be what the Iberian COAST would resemble. The interior would be uninhabitable.

>>70504466
So wait. If the US deploys its tanks in Washington state, it must be a provocation?

Here's the Oxford dictionary definition
provocation
noun [ C or U ] UK /ˌprɒv.əˈkeJ.ʃən/ US /ˌprɑː.vəˈkeJ.ʃən/

>C2 an action or statement that is intended to make someone angry:

"He'd fly into a rage at the slightest provocation."

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>>70482771
So, which engine powers the majority of China's Flanker fleet?

Pro-Tip, it's not the Russian engine.

Also, corruption in the PLA is getting purged. China in last year accelerated their modernization with just half the money, since the purge actually worked.

Holy shit, your informations are outdated as shit.

>>70504611
> No, in this case this is a show of force and hostility.
only if you're extremely insecure
that's just a video of the thing leaked in chinese internet that you assume was leaked intentionally

they have full right to deploy the missiles anywhere they want

>>70504652
>>moving weaponry in your sovereign territory is a provocation
>Wow okay

Context and intent is what matters you fucking spic. Yes, this is a scare tactic attempting to gauge a hostile. The timing says it all.

>Kill yourself. "Provocation" is when you use an offensive measure.

This is literally how a child views geopolitics. The Chinese have tact.

>Not what I stated you stupid cunt.
China's state media reports the governments desires.

It is what you said. The Chinese state media keeps a tight lid on it's true intentions more often than not when it's being an aggressor.

>>70482518
Someone has The Omen here

>>70504835
There is literally a research paper out there detailing how garbage the chinese engines are.

Essentially, in western engines that power the F-16, the engines usually have a lifespan of around 1300 flight hours before they require a major overhaul. While Chinese engines required overhaul after only 300-400 hours.

I can link it if you want, but the only reason I'm not doing it right now is because I'm on my phone.

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>>70483160
>>70482954
Fuck you for arming us up to fight each other. Never again.

>>70504835
well it's true their engines are shit even compared to russian ones
it's relatively safe to say their tanks and jets are crap

but somehow i don't get that impression from their missile tech, they must have stolen a lot more from US and bought from Ukraine than they did even from Russia in the 90es

>>70504855
You're fucking retarded

You seriously think a 3 second video of a missile without a nuclear warhead transported in China's own territory is a "provocation of the USA".

I'm done responding.

>>70504793
>So wait. If the US deploys its tanks in Washington state, it must be a provocation?

No, because intention is what makes it so. I never said a direct and open provocation, I said show of force because the Chinese are triggered very easily and have a sense of tact. You child.

>>70504837
>only if you're extremely insecure

Or if you're strategically aware of your opponents on the world stage who are fanatical and want to be the top dog.

>>70504928
Tell me who did this research paper.

Would you trust a Chinese research paper on American engines?

>>70504968
>le we dindu nuffin hurdur we had no guns of our own

>>70504786

anything would be aceptable if we got rid of both of them, also I'm tired of 10 months of summer in here, I wan't to snowball fight you, make snowman together and go for a hot chocolate after it instead of beer.

>>70504445
Fug is pensylvania? Is it related to Transilvania?
>>70504522
Success breeds jealosy.

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>>70504928
You are pretty behind the curve, it seems.

China's engines have around 1500 hours now. The WS-10, for example, can extend it even further and it has 120 - 140 kN thrust.

Their single crystal engine blades are really coming along after 20 years of research and investments. To deny that is suicide for you and your vassals.

wtf I hate dr*mpf now

>>70504972
>You seriously think a 3 second video of a missile without a nuclear warhead transported in China's own territory is a "provocation of the USA".

Of course you think that. It helps your strawman. Quit saying provocation and putting it quotes. Not my words. It is a show of force to the West and only a bumbling retard thinks otherwise.

>>70505001
> who are fanatical and want to be the top dog.
now you know that's just some wierd idea in your head and you're projecting

>>70505031
>>70505085
If you're still here in like a half hour, I will link it.

>>70505044
>and go for a hot chocolate
yes, because clearly cocoa will still be readily available (in Europe of all places) during a nuclear winter

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>>70504970
They arent behind Russia in any form these days.
Radar systems and electronics wise, they are even more advanced, since they skipped the PESA and moved directly to AESA in many of their fighter jets.


>>70505142
I know that paper and it isnt authoritative at all. Not when China is mass-producing their Sino-Flankers all powered with Chinese engines.

>>70505260
> They arent behind Russia in any form these days.
they are in quality and reliability though i agree about electronics, so avionics must be better, yeah

>>70505106
Of course. What would I know about the Chinese and their tactics. It's ruining my country. Ask the Chinese millionaire immigrants why they are so nationalistic to China and why they still have ties to Chinese officials in their old country why they pay back taxes very late in Yuan. Ask them how them why they pay a retainer to meet with our government leaders and all of a sudden a Chinese mega corporation sets up shop here. They are very a colonizing force but far from subtle about their objectives and goals.

>>70505044
>Economy would be absolutely obliterated overnight
>No more friendly giant across the Atlantic to keep paranoid Germans and Frenchmen in check
>Thinks there wouldn't be an immediate imposition of martial law and an immediate rise of nationalism across Europe
>Thinks we wouldn't see a bunch of starved and crazed Central Europeans trying to feel hundreds of millions of their own people at whatever the cost because their countries are now sterile frozen wastelands
>Thinks there wouldn't be an immediate hostile stance between our countries
Yeah no, if you want to make snowmen move to Canada.
You'd have to be utterly deluded to think something that looks like a Day After Tomorrow shoot gone bad would be nice.

>>70505094
>not my words
Hmmmmm>>70503718

>"it's (a nuclear weapon) sending a message in geopolitics"
I wonder what this is called....
A PROVOCATION?

>>70505260
>>70505317
> quality and reliability
i mean, did you see their t-90 modification on a tank biathlon, right? Chinese quality is still a thing in some areas

>>70504928
>There is literally a research paper out there detailing how garbage the chinese engines are.

post it then.

>>70505333
>I wonder what this is called....
>A PROVOCATION?

That seems a strong a word, but it's clearly very apt. It is a provocation.

>>70505323
so that's it, you're clearly paranoid because "the chinese are ruining my country"

>>70505466
"Paranoia"? What I say has been vindicated. It has all been proven, I'm not a conspiracy theorist.

>>70505554
yes you are
you're literally saying that chinks are intentionally colonizing canada and are being provokative by literally moving trucks around their own damn country