>Millions of Mexicans and other Central Americans cross the border illegally
>Mexicans are mad at us that people want a wall
hmm
Wrong
>>70448328
no it's not i live on the east coast and there's neighborhoods of people who cant speak english
>>70448325
>Millions of Europeans and other Central Americans cross the border illegally
>Amerindians want you all to go back
>>70448352
>Spanish talking about going to the New World illegally
>>70448345
>no it's not
Wrong
>>70448380
I understand why you would be embarrassed about the whole situation, your human trash has been pouring into my country illegally for a couple decades now. For so long it's become normalcy although it never should have been.
>>70448410
Show me the immigration trends from the last decade.
>>70448435
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jul/20/number-of-illegals-levels-off-fewer-crossing-mexic/
Only 2.5 million in the last 8 years. Less than the prior eight.
Phew, I thought that there was a problem, 2.5 million isn't so bad. I guess you're right.
>>70448478
And now show me how many went back.
>>70448540
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/03/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/
gee the population has stabilized at an 8 figure number, looks like there isn't a problem!
>>70448478
>>70448352
>Illegally
Wrong
>>70448584
I never knew you speedy gonzalezes were in such denial
>>70448325
It isn't about that and you know it dumb ass, we are not paying
>>70448645
t. speedy gonzalez
>>70448620
>>70448580
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/11/20/more-mexicans-leaving-us-than-entering-study-says.html
Oh boy, Trump bait thread #283838383828383. We should put word filters in place to discourage shitposting.
Build wall = ?
Trump = ?
You have to go back = ?
MAGA = ?
>>70448670
What about the numbers of people that come from the countries south of yours and then going through your country?
Denial
>>70448698
im not baiting
i havent been on int for a while and i cant believe the reaction from mexicans
you're obviously an ass mad CHI
>>70448698
Wordfilters are dead. 4chan is dead.
>>70448325
You should build the fucking wall and instead of deporting them back, throw them for the pigs to eat, since they are all fucking traitors of their own country, choose to run instead of making their own country great.
>>70448325
They're not mad you want to build a wall. They're mad because you think they're going to pay for it.
You want a foreign government to pay for your border protection.
That has no legal precedent or any precedent because nobody has been an idiot enough to suggest it.
Mexico isn't responsible for people going to your country the same way SA wasn't responsible for 9/11.
You can't sue or hold a country accountable for the actions of individual people.
Even WW1 had the pretext that the assassin had to have had serb government help. Because otherwise it made no sense to go after Serbia.
Can you prove the mexican state is _aiding_ illegal immigration? No, it even helping you deport em back to central murica. Or it use to, I wouldn't help you any more in their shoes.
>>70448977
Anyone who actually believed Mexico would pay for the fucking wall is clinically retarded. It's political suicide for anyone who dares do anything but staunchly oppose it. It's a matter of sovereignty, if you shit all over your national pride and treasury on the whim of Americans, you're essentially willingly declaring yourself a protectorate.
>>70448645
>we are not paying
Like you have a choice? There are any number of ways we can get our pound of flesh that don't require Mexico to do anything, including confiscating remittances. At this point you basically have the option of quietly acquiescing while complaining loudly to save face (you know, the same thing you did in 1848) or being publicly cornholed.
>>70448977
Mexico is more-or-less a failed state with regards to their organized crime problem. That's all the justification needed. The Wall is not just about illegal immigration, but both a symbolic gesture of self-determination and a new approach to combating the flow of narcotics into the US.
>>70449072
They backed themselves into this corner by insisting from the first that they weren't going to have any part in paying for the Wall. They huffed and puffed and REEEEd because they thought there was no way that Trump was ever going to get elected and that if he WAS elected there was no way he was going to actually build the Wall. Now that's coming back to bite them. If they had said "lmao whatever dude talk to us again when you actually get elected" when Trump first stared talking about the wall instead of burning that bridge the first opportunity they got then they'd be able to come out to their people with something like "if these gringo faggots want a wall so bad they can have it and then we'll see who needs who". "Mexico will pay for it" has a lot of wiggle room - that could mean anything from seizing funds flowing into Mexico (probably causing a civic and diplomatic shitstorm of epic proportions in Mexico) to imposing a small tariff on all Mexican imports to pay for the Wall over a much longer period of time.
>>70448325
>ruin the economy of your southern states + third largest trading partner for a wall
>ruin your international reputation for a wall
>forget that ladders exist
>>70451073
>Mexico is more-or-less a failed state with regards to their organized crime problem.
>>70451408
>>70451073
we are fighting your wars while you arm the cartels and give them billions of dollars we are fighting this war for you and this is how you pay us go fuck yourself
>>70448977
>Can you prove the mexican state is _aiding_ illegal immigration? No
they let immigrants transit through their country to enter the US, by making o effort to stop/return the migrants. Their inaction is aid
>>70451453
>it's a conspiracy!
classic
Jesus what's happening in this thread. Mexico BTFO every other country with a couple posts.
Based
>>70451073
all spanish speaking countries support Mexico MATE.
BUT USA USA USA USA , fuck off
i just love seeing that shithole mexico getting btfo
Trump will make your president suck his dick, mexicans
>>70448645
If you bordered Russia or China you would have been annexed a long long time ago, but for some reason liberals in my government have bowed down to your government whenever they have made ridiculous demands for accomodation (nafta, no border security, not sending the military into your shithole after the cartels). no more, you'll respect our sovereignty or you'll pay a heavy price.
>>70451408
>Use
Wew.
>>70451453
>while you arm the cartels
The Obama administration did that and nearly got strung up for it. It was also a drop in the bucket compared to what the cartels have lifted from the Mexican armed forces(!) or obtained from criminal organizations somewhere else - doesn't most cartel weaponry come from Central and South America paramilitary groups and gangs via Guatemala?
>and give them billions of dollars
Are you talking about government aid or just in general because they make money hand-over-fist importing narcotics and the best way to stop that is to stop the flow of drugs and a wall would go a long way towards doing that.
>we are fighting this war for you
Controlling your own organized crime is your own obligation and if you can't handle it then we will - and under Trump, don't be surprised if that includes "if your military can't dismantle these cartels then ours will do it and you will reimburse us later". Of course, if you come to us and ask for materiel or aid then we'd probably be happy to help - or, at the very least, coordinate anti-cartel activities on both sides of the border. But now, of course, you can't do that without looking spineless and two-faced because your leaders got into a dick-waving competition and their backs are to a wall.
>REEEE FUCK OFF FUCKING GRINGOS WE'RE NOT GIVING YOU A CENT FOR THAT FUCKING WALL
>But could we please borrow some drones, spy satellites and maybe a mechanized infantry brigade?