Trump to end Russia sanctions What will the EU do about its

>>70435432
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Why do Americans suddenly want to be Russia's bitch?

>>70435630
Being friends and being a bitch are two different things.

>>70435666
>666
Sure thing Satan

>>70435630

Because Donald Trump is a slut who wants to be dominated to Putin.

>>70435630
We just don't want to be their enemy, there aren't any benefits to it. The idea of being Russia's bitch is laughable, they have an economy smaller than California's, which is part of what makes our media's fearmongering about them so strange.

>>70435666
I wish your government would realize that too.

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>>70435751
Poor Finland...so far from God, so close to Russia.

>>70435747
You still act like the USSR never dissolved. It was understandable in the 90s when the idea was fresh but now I don't get it.

>>70435747
They're still occupying Crimea and eastern Ukraine. Lifting the sanctions now would mean US approval to those actions

>>70435810
You're a convenient enemy. Your economy is roughly the size of Italy's, so being your enemy doesn't seriously damage our business. You have a nuclear arsenal roughly the same size as ours, so you present a legitimate threat. Your government does things that we associate with fascism (pass anti-gay laws, intimidate journalists etc.), making it easy to paint them as the enemy. Plus, our older generations remember decades of being on the brink of war with Russia, that hasn't fully gone away.

We had an opportunity to reconcile with Russia in the 1990s. But Bill Clinton decided that he would rather facefuck young women than worry about foreign policy, so that opportunity passed.

Trump confirmed for siberian candidate?

>>70435935
Not necessarily approval, just recognition that there's nothing we can do and it's really not our concern. The US has never approved of China's annexation of Tibet, or formally approved of Israel's settlements in the West Bank (Obama publicly criticized them iirc), but we're not sanctioning them for it, are we?

>>70436001
Wasn't that exactly the reason you're sanctioning them?

>>70436057
Yes, that's exactly why we were sanctioning Russia, but it's a waste of time imo. Just like with China and Tibet, it doesn't really benefit us to sanction them and sanctions aren't going to make them change their minds.

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I made this a couple of days ago and amerifats get triggered by it, I'm truly a visionary.

>>70436121
delet this
We're gonna be cucked hard huh

The Netherlands will just follow America's example. Missing out on business is not something we do.

But we're pretty much in a cold war with Russia so I don't think our politicians will be happy.

>>70436107
Hard to sanction a country who wasn't even recognised till years later on. This is a non-sequitur. If the current Chinese government were to take Tibet(or alternatively Taiwan) in this day and age, there would certainly be sanctions. Don't feign ignorance

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>>70435432
Probably go to war. Europeans are rabid for Russian blood

Not to mention the CIA rallying up the local people in Tibet causing demonstrations and whatnot. USA were absolutely involved in Tibet. What are you even talking about?

>>70436107
The Netherlands and Germany used to block the biggest sanctions against Russia. Because we're both heavily invested in the Russian economy, unlike the USA who barely trades or invests in Russia.

But when MH17 happened there was no option to ignore it anymore. So we let the sanctions pass.

>>70436313
Oi, I've got nail polish and a mercury thermometer from the US of A.

>>70436281
t. Vladimir Crotchlikmeoff

Take your third-world bootlicking faggot somewhere else pls

>>70435571
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI3MARgU0s8

>>70436461
>Sucking Europoor dick

Fuck off

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>>70436370
>The top export destinations of Russia are China ($39.3B), the Netherlands ($39B), Germany ($29.8B), Italy ($22.9B) and Japan ($21.5B).
>The top import origins are China ($50B), Germany ($37.3B), the United States ($16.5B), Belarus ($14.9B) and Italy ($12.4B).
http://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/profile/country/rus/

Pic shows Russia loves tax paradises lol.

>>70436588
>Pic shows Russia loves tax paradises lol.
Our 1% sure does.

>>70436313
And what did you achieve with that?

>>70436540
Well, Russia is poor and European.

>>70435432
In Italy everyone, both left and right and anti-politics, have been saying for long that we should drop them because it hurts our country's economy more than the supposed leverage it should have on Russia. Most recently Prodi, our ex PM and the president of the EU commission during the euro birth, said we should drop them even before America does so as to avoid them having a special bond.

>>70436766
We can't buy their cheese now, lol.

>>70436766
Our government wants Russia to let us prosecute the people who shot down MH17. That's it.

But Russia refuses to cooperate because it doesn't want to admit how active they are in Ukraine, as that goes against the stories the Kremlin tells the Russian people.

Good luck pushing that through a united Congress.

>>70436766
Putting a lot of r*ssians into poverty and misery is a victory in my books tbqh

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>>70436813
Didn't you have a food shortage recently?

That was Putin boycotting us back lol.

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>>70436952
>Didn't you have a food shortage recently?
Lolwut? When? Where?

>>70437006
Food prices going up..

https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/russias-central-bank-declares-shortage-of-banned-food-items-51213

>>70436952
>food shortage
No, we just have Parmesan from Vladimir and Mozarella from Tver.
>>70436879
That's oil's fault in my book.
>>70436830
You never let foreign governments to prosecute your military officers like Americans said to fuck off to everyone who had problems with them shooting down iranian plane. You should be realists, planes get shot in batrlefield.

>>70437056
That's some bullshit. There wasn't a day with any shortages.

>>70435432
US sanctions are purely symbolic (US doesn't trade much with Russia). It's up to Europe what it does with its own (actually significant) sactions.

>>70435630
Nobody buys that shit retard.

>>70437118
Well, we had the exact opposite effect of the boycott. We had too much food and prices went down.

>>70437163
Prices skyrocketed due to ruble's fall that was caused by the drop of oil prices. All banned food was replaced first with Serbian/brazilian/african/egyprtian, whatever else production and then almost totally by new local products. Just bought a really nice parmesan from Kaluga few days ago.

>>70437261
We mostly export tomatoes, apples and pears to Russia. One moment Russia even had a 300% price increase on tomatoes. But that has stabilized already I believe.

>>70437159
There is no public appetite from either party for a sea-change on Russian relations.
There's been a slight shift with Trump for Republicans, but it's still relatively minor.
So while the statement "nobody thinks what Trump is doing is unusual" is up for debate, people, generally, wouldn't choose this line of Forpol. Even with the President hammering the soundbites, people in the US don't like Russia.

As for the veracity of the question itself (is Trump Putin's bitch?), an investigation by US IC into whether Trump may be compromised by Russia is currently ongoing. As in, he may well be.

as if those "sanctions" ever did anything to begin with

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>>70437533
Well, Russia plays the long term strategy. Land like the Krim is invaluable. So a few short term santions are no big deal.

But in the west everyone always watches the economy closely. And a companies going bankrupt might lead to an uproar in the west.

It's a big difference in mentality.

>>70435810
Old people vote more.

>>70437533
Disposable income has been dropping like mad in the last 2 years in Russia

http://rbth.com/business/2016/12/23/real-income-in-russia-falls-by-over-12-in-2-years_666751

>>70437404
I dunno who would buy your tomatoes even without ban when all imported stuff literally doubled its prices in 2014. So I dunno, that is the part of that shitstorm that doesn't concern me anyhow, we had and have no problems with food

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fuck the eu

>>70437660
>Disposable income has been dropping like mad in the last 2 years in Russia


thats due to putin's war mongering and poking his nose in places like syria

soldiers dont work for compliments

>>70435957
Quality post.

>>70435786
I wonder what fe... wait, that quote is about Mexico and America.

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>>70435432
horey shit

>>70437660
Oil prices, oil prices, oil prices. Ffs, I am tired repeating that. At least read what these sanctions are about. 80% of it is banning some officials from entering your resorts and having bank accounts. Our main export production lost 80% of ita price, that's what happened.

One to be autocrat supporting the established old dog autocrat.
Colour me surprised.

>>70437736
He's a different Dutch guy.

But guess where your oil goes to? >>70436588
Rotterdam has many Dutch and Russian refineries.
Before MH17 Shell was also supposed to help Russia with artic drilling.
But the boycots forbid new investments in the oil industry.

Now Shell is investing in alternative fuels..
http://www.shell.com/media/news-and-media-releases/2015/shell-to-install-nationwide-network-hydrogen-vehicle-fuelling-pumps-germany.html
Not sure what that will do with oil prices in 2023.

>>70437851
>where your oil goes to?
Nobody stopped buying oil. Sanctions don't affect that anyhow. Prices dropped. That's it.

>>70437457
As "public" you mean the politicians, and liberals who only hate Russia now because the media tell them too.

And no, there is no proof that Trump is "compromised" by Russia, only ridiculous defamation and reports by nameless sources.

>>70437713
Even without this Tillerson's crimes against USA should have assured he could never have such an important position as sos. It seems Republicans are hellbent on confirming people that don't have its interest at heart like Tillerson and deVos because of campaign contributions.

>>70437900
No, but the new investments in Russian oil had to stop.

It's actually the American puppet Saudi Arabia that is driving the oil prices down by exporting record amounts.

>>70437977
Even staying at level of production we had we wouldn't experience anu problems if prices stayed the same. And SA actually reduced production a lot in recent times but that only pushed prices to 55$, the main thing that happenes was shell oil and China's slowing of growth.

>>70435630
>we
Only Trump and his chumps

>>70438144
you elected him

>>70438144
Good to hear not all americans are a bunch of cucks

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>>70438108
MH17 happens. Boycotts happen. Oil production shoots up.

Russian news: "Merely a coincidence I'm sure.."

>>70435630
Republicans have been saying, "Putin is a strong leader, Obama is a limp wristed faggot" for a while as an attempt to shame Democrats into adopting a more hardline stance against Russia. Republicans started hearing the "Putin = strong leader" shit so much that even though Congressional Republicans were saying it in a bad way, Republican voters started to think strong leader = good thing, and if they weren't going to get it from the Democrats, they need Russia's help.

t. Have family that thinks exactly like that.

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>>70438214

>>70435630
why do autistic foreigners think we care about russia enough to be hostile towards them for no reason

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>>70438293

>>70435432
About time, these sanctions are fucking retarded. I'd rather be embargoing the germcucks.

>>70437660
That has more to do with Russia's counter sanctions since the US's sanctions only targeted Putin and his cronies.

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>>70438108
You know the Netherlands owns the biggest oil trader in the world (Vitol) and the biggest private oil company in the world (Shell).

We can crash this plane with no survivors.

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mfw

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>tfw Poland gonna be used to lure Russia into war
feels good knowing you will be dead in your lifetime

Wonderful. Let's pull all NATO forces out of Crimea and end the War in Donbass by letting the Russians steamroll the entire peninsula. Surely this won't influence other countries' opinions of the strength of NATO and will definitely make trade in that region easier.

>>70438412
this

I wholeheartedly and unironically believe that Germany is a bigger threat to human civilization than Russia is. We must thoroughly shove the wretched Kraut "nation" back into the mud, where it belongs. We can NEVER let them become at all powerful or even relevant on an economical or military level.

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>>70435666
>666
really made me think

>>70439192
>I wholeheartedly and unironically believe that Germany is a bigger threat to human civilization than Russia is
I will never understand that "aids is better than ebola" rhetoric

>>70439381
Germany already has like 10 puppets anyway. The Scandis, The Benelux, Austria, and probably the Czechs.

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>>70439192
You've had your chance twice.

>>70435751
Kys cuck, no good finn wants to be friends with r*ssians.

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>>70439896
We were friends with them for a quite long time between 60-80s

>>70439087
>Let's pull all NATO forces out of Crimea
What did he mean by this?

>>70440057
Don't listen to that fucking retard swallowing the contaminated semen that is our media.

The Soviet Union is gone, the Cold War is over, exactly what reason is there to antagonize Russia other than muh gay rights?

>>70440406
uhm, muh Ukraine?

>>70435432
If USA remove the sanctions, the Russian public will love the USA and it will become easier for single American men to get Russian wives. Think of the benefits, remove the sanctions now USA.

>>70440406
>implying their domestic situation changes anything
The russkies are still pulling the same shit they always have abroad.

>>70440406
>The German Empire is gone, the Great War is over, exactly what reason is there to antagonize German other than muh Poles and Czechoslovakia ?

>>70440406

It's not about 'muh gays,' it's more like 'muh national sovereignty' and 'muh territorial integrity'

>>70435747
>We just don't want to be their enemy, there aren't any benefits to it.

Being their bitch also doesnt have any advantages. Infact it has massive repurcussions amongst US' standing with its European allies.