lol bye

>>70321127
trump probably saved my career, what a top bloke

>>70321127
Never got the point why murrica did want to leave.
If China was part of it I could understand, but currently is was basically just another "murrican vassals" agreement.

>>70321127
now can we kill the cancer that is nato?

>>70321154
ill miss u the most australia<3

>>70321279
Only if you want your nukes back.

those countries were ready to make a trade deal anyway
if ttp is no go china will sign them up instead

>>70321127
second, disband the UN

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tpp is ded now

>>70321279
Fuck off Ivan.

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LOL who cares
China is our best pal now

>>70321127
such a good new, thanks trump.

>>70321261
I thought TPP was formed to compete with China. Kinda like the EU of the Pacific.

>>70321340
No, we dont want tpp. Only that bald monkey want it so it can save his arse.

>>70321261
because NAFTA was a shit show.
And what the TPP does is allow corporations to form their own court and sue those countries if their individual law causes problems, and it will be held in the corp court, with corp appointed judges.
Fuck that shit.
Wait for all those country's currency to start dropping
US dollar already going up.

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>Australia still trying to save TPP
Will you FUCK OFF TURNBULL YOU KIKE BANKER

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who needs america

>>70321730
This

>>70321730
how do we suck up the chinos so they won't nuke us in wwiii ??

>>70321279
fuck off Russian shill, NATO is literally the US and it's Euro vassal states

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>>70322649
you left asia with no other choice but china and russia.

>>70322644
But you are also the chinos

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GIVE US THE TRADE DEAL REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>70321261
its a good deal for rich cunts and a bad deal for everyone else, it forces other countries to use the american copyright system in exchange for service jobs going to those countries
CEO's etc would profit more, everyone else loses their job to some 5 foot asian guy working for $.0009 an hour

Australian posts make me laugh the most haha im laughin as i type this

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>>70322694
>wanting the TPP

>>70322783
new zealand needs it

>>70322783
>wanting to give China more power and influence in the world

>>70322815
Why though?

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>>70322783
>>70322840
t. winston "you know what our export-based economy REALLY needs more of? protectionism!" peters

>>70322826
its better for china to have a slight influence over south east asia than fuck over every 1st world citizen and send them into poverty

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>>70321127
>Australia in 5 years

>>70322919
>he's never been to australia
forget five years m8 it's like that now

as every single day passes the idea of having china as our overlord sound better and better

>>70322949
from the territory are ya?

>>70322826
It's pretty much given that without the US in the TPP, China will fill the void and try bring TPP countries into its Chinosphere.

>>70322955
cant be worse than america? they will also fund killing children.

>>70323008
>fund killing children.
what the world really needs

>>70323006
>vote red in america
>world becomes red
Many such cases.

>>70323075
this started with with the left being cunts and there being no mild political groups.

>>70323006
joke's on you fag we already have a trade deal with them

アメリカが抜けたら、日本が参加する意味無いんじゃないの??

>>70323153
You can't be mild these days, everyone has to go full retard to get attention.

>>70323153
>>70323347
nah, the 2-party system is just a result of the murrican voting system.
In any kind of proportional representation you would have multiple parties.

>>70322588
Just replace the US with China and Indonesia, tweak a lot of the terms to make it better since it was American corporations the ones trying to fuck everyone over, and we are set.

>>70323460
You can't get elected as a third party, because people will vote for you just because you have a R or D next to your name. It is too good to pass up, also you get access to party funds for being a party rep.

>>70321127
Thanks god

>>70323572
>and funds coming from manipulative kike agreement to tppa countries that full of actual resources, unlike america, printed fake money from kike federal reserves
>america rich and fuck the agreement, everyone else can kiss my ass
>america is first world, the rest are losers

>>70321127
Thank god Donald Trump is based! FUCK CHANCHELET

>>70322129

Please dont reproduce so that your iq genes never spread.

>>70322873
This. And if China ever gets any ideas, the US will nuke it off the face of the planet.

>>70322704
>5 foot asian guy working for $.0009 an hour

Except that other than Vietnam none of the asian countries have that working conditions and every single one of them are economically developed.

You just fell for the meme cunt. Cant blame you though. Both right and left produced populisst idiots who didnt know the basics of trade and more importantly geo-politics. Now get ready to suck China's micro benis rather than Uncle Sam's manly one.

>>70322873
>slight influence
>implying a trade deal with China isnt going to be eternal anal penetration as compared to US

LMOA.

>There are actually people supporting the TPP

>>70322694
You have to go back to the gas chambers Goldstein

>>70324145
Trump hates it so it must be good

>>70324145
Yes there are people who are still supporting that, most of them are delusional jewish merchant bankers

>>70324157
But Bernie hates it too, so which one is it James ?

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>>70321127
Thank god. Now the copyright jew won't be destroying our way of life.

is this means AIIB win??

>>70324205
Trump and Bernie are not opposites

>>70324157
>>>/oven/

>>70324210
Except for the part where Piracy was made illegal or something and the ISP's were forced to block sites like TPB

Its just a fuckening from elsewhere

>>70321127
Based Trump.
NATO next pls.

>>70324274
yeah but it's not as bad as it would have been

simple VPN is enough to get around it.

>>70321127
Thanks amerikkka.
t. piracy pro

>>70324282
Hold your horses there Vladimir

The baltics are ours

>>70324293
>VPN
You can just change your DNS for free, takes about 30 seconds

>>70324243
One of the reasons Trump won was because of potential Sanders voters that hate Hillary more than Trump.

>>70324354
I aint no fancy pants hacker man

>>70321127
F

;_

>>70322704
>CEO's etc would profit more, everyone else loses their job to some 5 foot asian guy working for $.0009 an hour
China already killed manufacturing jobs,
TTP was the best way to stab those chink motherfuckers back for manipulating their currency and stealing intellectual property at will

>>70324492
Go into your internet settings, DNS should be one of the most obvious settings to change, no matter what platform you're on

Google makes a couple of DNS servers available for public use: 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4

I don't know if they will solve the problem your compatriot is referring to though because I don't even know what the problem is. But perhaps that is what he's suggesting. During the Arab spring, people painted those DNS server addresses on walls for people to use, because they could circumvent government restrictions on accessing certain sites.

DNS means domain name service - it's basically like a phone book that your computer uses to locate every website that you try and access. You will already be using a DNS server because you need one to access any website.

>>70324617
this will fix it, you can also just go into your command prompt and manually look it up
nslookup whatever.com 8.8.8.8
its the dumbest way to block shit

>>70324678
>>70324617
thanks fellas, will do this at some point

>>70324617
they dns blocked piratebay and stuff here
switching to google dns fixed it

they know it's ineffective but the idea is it's much less intrusive and draconian than more effective methods like the great firewall uses for example

>>70321127
bye bye USA(・ω・)ノシ

>>70324354
How do I do this?

>>70324713
>at some point
this literally takes 2 minutes even if you have no idea what you're doing including the time it takes to google how

it's about as trivial as changing your desktop background

>>70324757
b-but I'm eating

>>70321261
People are on the protectionist train. It was going to extend American economic policies to Asian countries. It was a globalists wet dream. People don't want manu jobs going overseas or something, but I don't think there are many to compete for over here.

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>>70324570
But now it's not happening. So what did that solve?

>>70324718
Fair

>>70324754
Go into your internet settings, find the setting for DNS server, change it to 8.8.8.8

>>70324816
>>70324757
Ok so I put 8.8.8.8 as my preferred DNS server. What do I put as the alternative one?

8.8.4.4?

>>70324833
yes

>>70324864
Done, and I finished eating. Thanks iceland, stay cool and free.

>>70324719
bye bye TPP( ಠωಠ )ノシ

>>70324833
If you just fill in the preferred and leave back up blank it should work

If not then yes try that

So once you've applied that setting you should be able to access the pirate bay according to your compatriot

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>all this pro-TPP shilling
When did anyone on the internet become pro-TPP?

This is likely one of the few good things Trump will do.

>>70324719
Abe said TPP is pointless without USA

>>70324945
I hate TPP. But my country needs to do something now that NAFTA (which also fucking despise, but it is responsible of millions of really_bad_paying _jobs, sadly, which is better than none). Maybe not sign TPP per se, but to make a much better deal out their rests and without the fucking burgers for a change. I don't know man, my country will enter a recession if we do nothing.

>>70324769
>It was going to extend American economic policies to Asian countries

That's a nightmare though. Living in America is truly suffering

>>70324393
This was me.

All the candidates were shit though tbhfam

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>>70325014
join us

>>70325014
I wish Trump would would replace the TPP with another, better trade deal to curb China's influence.

>people here against free trade
its like no one studied basic economics here

The Pee Pee xd

>>70325333
Yes, as you've demonstrated any monkey can be taught in a perfect world free trade will result in higher total output and less cost.

Let me know when you get to the chapter that looks at how this impacts individuals. Better yet, let me know when your favelado brain develops enough to take into account the fact that humans are greedy by nature.

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>>70325363
You must be of at least 18 years of age to use this website

>>70325482
>to take into account the fact that humans are greedy by nature
literally irrelevant

>>70325014
>I don't know man, my country will enter a recession if we do nothing.
dude, there's nothing we can do about it other than perhaps coming to terms with the fact that it is inevitable because the political elite here simply can't fathom a world where they no longer depend on US by letting their corporations coming here and the illegals to move far north into their country, it had to happen sooner or later. Also, there are no other options, PAN is just a bunch of thieves (they're just a little bit less cancerous than PRI, but thieves nonetheless), PRD is doomed to fail miserably because no one knows what they stand for and Morena is just a bunch of muh seize of means of production n shiiiiiieeet gibsmedat NOW (and we both know it is true, AMLO is among the most retarded politicians this placehas ever seen, and god almighty have mercy on us if that jackass gets into office). Mexico dug its own tomb when it decided to never care about their commercial relationships with other countries, it always burgerland this, burgerland that, burgerland always, and to top it off, the mentality of the average mexican doesn't help because a considerable percentage of them are far more concerned about watching football all day long, getting drunk or AYOOO LOOK AT THAT BOOTY
>bu bu but not everyone is like this
yes, but when over 50% does it then you've got a serious problem on your hands.
The PRI managed to stay in power for too long because they gave the population what they wanted:
1.- certainity about what will happen tomorrow ,and by this i mean: you will be able to pass down your job to your children who in turn will do the ame with his children.
2.- something to entertainment: everything is going to shit
DUDE GOOOOLLLLLL [enter football team]... meanwhile, the entire country is going to shit

maybe this will finally make people realize that the ways of the past is what caused this means to being with (obviously foreign influence played an important role, but still).

>>70325654
>because the political elite here simply can't fathom a world where they no longer depend on US
That has been the case only for a really short period of time. Mexico has had really anti-american rhetoric, and rightfully so, many times. Peña Nieto is weak, but enough is enough, fuck the burgers.

wtf i love trump now

>>70325654
the ones who will suffer the most will be the children, but this is what we get for being so naive and short-sighted people, it is unfortunate but utterly necessary if the population is to realize nepotism, lazyness and gismedat will just bring about problems.
You might say i'm being an asshole or something, but the sad reality is that the system here is completely broken and beyond saving, i don't believe in any political party for they are pretty much the same, if it were someone totall independent and who addresses the real issues for what they are i might try to be more optimistic, but it's the same all the goddamned time.

>>70325654
>>70325742
You are being a sad little naive cunt yourself.

>>70325014
Didn't China attend the last (or one of the last) submit in Peru with the intention of proposing a new deal that included everyone and the Chinese and excluded the US?

>>70325654
When I read this, this came to my mind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNPdWuLztAA

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>>70324801
anyone got the template?

>>70321127
This is actually good desu

>>70325294
top kek

>>70326447
I do, but not for a leaf

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>>70326447

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>>70326563
thanks

>>70324801
the problem with TTP is that it would have allowed corporations to sue nations at the sole sign of someone threatening their likely profits. It would have given them even more power, and if someone dares going agsint us, we'd have taken this case to private tribunals (obviously paid by the coporations), which they would have won every single time, fucking everyone up. That """"free trade agreement"""" was just a nafta on steroids, outsourcing nonstop, exploitation never seen before and complete disregard for human dignity of the countries where all the jobs would have gone to (in this particular case, Vietnam where such thing as work ethics doesn't exist).
It was an abomination, if you ask me

talk form experience, my country became ridiculously dependent upon US and now it is likely shtf thanks to it. TPP = NAFTA on steroids

>>70326604
So lets not allow corporations to sue nations and keep the burgers out. Burger corporations were the one shilling for all the shit things in TPP, just like how burger corporations fucked everyone in Mexico and the US with NAFTA, now that they are gone, we should make a better deal.

>>70326604
>it would have allowed corporations to sue nations
That already happens, and it's been happening since before NAFTA
>someone threatening their likely profits
It doesn't work like that. The state has to take an action with the intent to deprive a corporation of their investment tantamount to expropriation.
>obviously paid by the coporations
Actually paid for by the World Bank Group.
>they would have won every single time
Only about 35% of the time do ISDS tribunals rule in favor of the corporation.

>>70326563
Lmao

>>70326665
to be honest dude, i don't think it is possible, those fuckers will try to keep the clauses and regulations when US was still in. They will offer their terms and that's it, take it or leave it.
the copyright infrigement section was fucking insane, not to mention the thing about no more generic medicine.

I still don't understand what it is or what it will do to Australia.

Lmao bye irrelevant countries

I don't give a shit about trade prices, global relations, etc. I'm just glad I will still be able to pirate my anime and Comiket won't get shutdown.

>CNN was listing one of the pros of TPP was that medical companies could sue to prevent generics

Who in the hell wants more expensive medicine for the common person other than corporations?

>>70326789
I remember and know all of that about TPP. When NAFTA was signed, people here were protesting, some of those people didn't want to end NAFTA but instead improve it to actually make it fair, it didn't work because people didn't listen, but we should try the same with TPP, to make it better. Now, I don't think it is going to work either, but I am saying that we shouldn't give up just like that. Damn it man, this really pisses me off.

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>>70326797
same.

can some1 give us a quick greentext/rundown what the TPP is/does and how this effects the world?

>>70321127
thank god we are not so rush join into party

>>70326763
THIS, I wasn't a fan of some of the stuff in that agreement and all the secrecy surrounding negotiations was unnecessary and an obvious PR mistake but the horror stories are largely exaggerated, the deal should have been re-worked, not scraped.

In all fairness we will likely get eventual deals with Australia and New Zealand which is really the only ones worth it we were missing in that group. Trump may force us into more FTAs with that region, and China in particular, however which is something we really have to be careful on. We had somehow dodged the bullet on too many deals with the Chinese, unlike South America, and at this point IMHO the government should rather be looking into expanding business with the partners we already have, particularly the EU and Japan.

>>70326918
are you really that lazy...sigh, anyway:
>TPP
1.- it'd have allowed corporations to sue contries if their likely profits were to be compromised by the actions of the government. These cases would have been taken to private tribunals paid by the corporations, where they would have won every single time.
2.- it'd have allowed to outsource even more american/canadian jobs to other countries, even nations like Mexico or Peru would have got BTFO because, as you may already know, in asian countries such as Vietnam (another member country) such thing as work ethics doesn't exist, so: YAY MORE SLAVES
3.- insane copyright regulations. what this guy say: >>70326828 was just a part of it, it was even worst. Comiket and joujinshis would have got BTFO too

4.- for third world nations, it owuld have meant the end of generic medicine, and for first world nations medicine even more expensive (if i recall correctly, they also wanted to copyrighted surgery procedures). Mosanto (now Bayer) would have gotten even more power (you know, i plant my GMO and my toxic as fuc pesticide and if your ppulation complains and try to do something i'll suit the shit out of you and then keep poisoning your population and your soil nonstop).

5.- the outsourcing would have led to even more illegal immigration

>hippie dippies protest TPP
>their unlikely saviour is big business donald duck

whoa

>>70327132
*sue

>>70327132
>he is anti GMO
I see where this is going and now I am starting to think this guy is right. >>70327035

>>70322919
Just got out to the middle of australia. This is everyday life there. Just without everyone trying to kill each other.

>>70327180
dude, GMO is starting to fuck up the exportation of honey to European union because, in case you didn't know, those dudes have certain regulations, you might say: oh but it's just one thing, if TPP still stands this are going to get worse, the best thing to do is that the government start paying attention to othe rnations instea dof just: if it isn't burgerland then let's crash this shit with no survivors.

>>70327132
>the end of generic medicine
No, it wouldn't have been, any attempt to retroactively deny rights in effect to Mexican citizens would have been ruled unconstitutional and this is one where vested interests in Mexico (eg Dr. Simi and the green party owned by his relatives) would have balanced out undue influence in the court system.

Now this is the thing with skipping to providing people the cliff notes without actually going through the whole thing, AGAIN, there were legit concerns for this agreement but a lot of the accusations are wild exaggerations.

>>70327226
>it wouldn't have been, any attempt to retroactively deny rights in effect to Mexican citizens would have been ruled unconstitutional

dude, have you been paying attention to what is happening in the country? they give a flying fuck about what is or not constitutional, just look at what Durte did in veracruz, the cancer treatment as well as the medicine was fake, they knew it and ddidn't care, and if they didn't show mercy to children with cancer what makes you think it will be different on a larger scale? as long as they get their money form the companies nothing else matters. Also, law enforcement agencies can not be trusted, they have become their hitmen, literally.

>>70327219
What are you even going on about?

>>70327226
I think I once had an argument with you over GMOs, where you called me a Monsanto shill and I was actually a bit rude, but see? The anti-GMO people like to make incredible exaggerations out of thin air and without facts or studies to support their claims, and in doing so, they have actually cause enormous damage in South East Asia and Africa by preventing people to use technologies so many developed nations take for granted. Now, I am not sure about TPP, but if they are the same as the anti-GMO guys, the bad parts of TPP also might be exaggerations. Or maybe not.

>>70327285
Post sources and numbers, now I am interested.

>>70327219
I'm >>70327035 and >>70327226 I do agree on GMOs being shit, I want to make that clear, it[s something we don't need and we shouldn't allow on it fucks up subsistence farmers and the lobby nehind it is freedom caucus Republican out of whack (eg you have to pay royalties to use seeds you saved from a previous harvest) even regardless of th position you might take regarding whether GMOs are safe or not, which I[m guessing >>70327180 thinks ends the argumentMonsanto is acting in ways which are the equivalent of dumping and unfair competition, nevermind I agree with >>70327219 we need to start aligning with Europe and sell our stuff there, we are already the world[s biggest producer of organic products why fuck a value added industry for the sake of a few American agricorps driving Mexican farmers further into poverty?

We are not India, it isn[t about whether we can produce enough food (water is our only limit) and since our country[s economic advantage lies in fruits and vegetables, not grains, it isn't about profit either.

Literally the only reason this is being supported is Monsanto is throwing a lot of money around lobbying in Mexico City, nothing more.

>>70327390
GMOs are not equal to Monsanto. I have always wanted that GMOs were developed by public universities and in a non-profit way because they actually solve a lot of problems while causing none of the alleged bads. But really, being against Monsanto specifically is just as dumb as being against Coca-Cola specifically. Now, it doesn't matter how much you hate them or not or how bad they actually are or not, because Monsanto is NOT a synonym of GMO. And nobody has ever help them more than the anti-GMO people who puts ridiculous regulations, making it almost impossible for non-profit organizations to make their research, and giving the entire monopoly to a few companies instead.

>>70327285
Man don't go full retard paranoid, this is a problem with a lot of people not understanding how government and laws work, the Duarte thing is hideous but unrelated, and it's also unrelated to narcos infiltrating government and police.

Some parts of the system do work (eg Banxico or Hacienda) and they stick puntually to rules because otherwise macroeconomics and investment would go to shit. This is a matter of larger economic policy, the PRI fucked farmers over with NAFTA not because it was evil or corrupt but because it was incompetent.

When it comes to public health policy (anyone remembers the swine flu) the government is in fact in hands of actual physicians and people whose degrees are not for show. The supreme court may play fast and loose on some political issues but it's very punctual on others, you talk as if we had no government and while in some areas that holds true if I thought like you I would be fighting open revolution. Realize we still haven't gotten to the point of nothing to loose and we should avoid panic and irrationality, especially NOW.

>>70327365
I think I remember that one, hopefully it didn't get too rude. I still as you can see hold against GMOs but it[s not a topic worth discussing desu, I wrote >>70327390 simply to clarify my position.

>>70327509
what you don't seem to take into account is the lobby they practice to use their pesticides as well as the copyright shit this guy>>70327390
is talking about. If TPP were to be signed, say good bye to your non-profit GMO's or anything related to it because they literally would go full: WHERE DA COPYRIGHT AT, YOU DON'T HAVE ONE: COPS COPS TAKE HIM INTO CUSTODY. Go read that thing man, the copyright bullshit they tried to impose on the countries was insane, NAFTA was a fucking joke compared to it

>>70327560
and see what NAFTA and the corruption got us

>we still haven't gotten to the point of nothing to loose
not for long man, if government keeps doing what they have up until now, shtf, such scenrio isn't far-fetched

>>70327560
>but it's not a topic worth discussing desu
Fair enough.

>>70327578
One last thing, pesticides are not as bad as you think. Not for the envoirment or for you, they are the main reason you don't die thanks to parasites, and GMOs actually use LESS pesticides as they are stronger. And as for the copyright laws, every single seed company in the world, whether GMO or not, does this.

But alright, enough GMO arguments, I am out of the thread. Good night lads.

>>70321127
Wait a second, I thought this was set-up for America to exploit all those lesser nations?

>>70321154
Seriously, what the hell is your ""career"" that it was endangered by this shit?

>>70322129
And how would it be bad for America and its Corporations?

>>70322644
>China nuking their own people

>>70324097
and even in Vietnam this could have been a BIG chance for the US to create lasting close ties with the country, right on China's doorstep.
turn it into another Korea or Taiwan


too bad lol

I LOVE BEING POOR!

THANK YOU MR. TRUMP!