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Are people in your country that stupid to believe in RT?

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Are people in your country that stupid to believe in RT?
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Of course not. They believe only in first channel's propaganda
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>>70191482
the fuck is RT? I only ''hear'' about that on /int/
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>>70191482
Yes.
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>>70191482
RT did nothing wrong
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No, we only listen to our own state media channels.
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>>70191558

Un canal de propaganda ruso que se dedica a tirar mierda contra Europa, EE.UU y la OTAN las 24/7.

Una vez dijeron que los militares holandeses imitaban los disparos con la boca porque no tenían plata para balas de verdad, todos los pro-rusos y anti-occidente sacan sus pelotudeces de ahí.

www.rt.com/document/55bf3740c46188a5168b4570
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>>70191482
I don't think a lot of people over here get their news from there, commies here are still old school
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>>70191720
se ve que no me pierdo mucho entonces, gracias
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RT is too liberal and pro-western for Russian taste. It's not aired here it's export product. Our local channels are much better and patriotic.
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>>70191482
Of course not, we don't even air it here and don't translate into Russian :^) I learned about it from int.

...it's much better than all other Russian channels though
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>>70191482
Americans listen to it religiously as of late.
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I believe in it.
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RT is fucking schizophrenic. They defend countries like Venezuela and have literal Marxists come on to criticize the US and EU, but then have conservative authors defending and praising Russia or whatever else is on the Russian agenda.
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>>70192376
It's what every talk show does
They learn only from the best
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>>70192376
They're pulling America apart from its extremes. Honestly it seems to be working.
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Only the word RT that exists on Earth is an abbreviation of Retweet.
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>>70192376
That's called propaganda m8. You van learn more about it by studying göbbels anti jew works
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>>70191482
What exactly don't you believe then?

I find it funny how anti-Russian shills always complain about "muh biased RT", but they can't bring up one single example.

kys shill
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>>70192376
They offer alternative viewpoints, that is their market. That is actually how it should be in a free market - loads of media to cover all points of view. But with (((the corporate media))) you don't get that of course.
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>>70192533
t. hans rapebabyokov
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Bolivia

Yes, my uncle and his son.
They say CNN is propaganda so instead they go watch Russian propaganda.
They're also huge supporters of Evo too.
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Imagine the shitstorm if western media was denying genocides.
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>>70191482
>Are people in your country that stupid to believe in RT?
People constantly link to it on /int/ so some take it pretty seriously but I'm sure others are just trolling. I do respect their tactics though. Non-stop coverage of niggers rioting in Ferguson is not overtly propaganda, but it does the job of subtly convincing average Russians that the USA is just as shitty as Russia
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>>70192842
>convincing average Russians that the USA is just as shitty as Russia
We don't have RT here
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>>70192842
They also love showing migrants fucking things up in Europe too. It plays to Russians minds that the West is literally collapsing as we speak.
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>>70191482
RT is unironically broadcasted in all buses in my city.
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We have RT channel on paid satellite
Most people don't know it exists
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>>70192877
>migrants fucking things up in Europe

But that does happen, all the time. Google "migrant crime map Germany". RT reports the truth. It is the (((western media))) who lies.
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>>70191482
BBC is the biggest here, and I believe BBC News is the largest news organisation in the world
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>>70192376
Social conservatism/traditionalism isn't necessarily at odds with socialism. A lot of lefties here aren't the most socially progressive around.
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>>70192616
The alternate viewpoints all have one thing in common: Anti US, anti NATO, anti EU, at time anti UK.

They might come from different politcal sides, but their points converge all the same.
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>>70192837
Most of the world don't recognize is a genocide. We also don't recognize great depression in US as genocide.
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>>70195471
holodomor is fucking fake, why are we blue on that map
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I used to watch RT a lot when I was in high school. It was very obvious it is propaganda, but there were some interesting features about russian culture which I always liked.
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>>70195024

yes. old school leftists were often deeply christian and would be considered right wing socially in today's world
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>>70191482
>RT
Russian shiller in here has different name, called "RBTH"
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>>70195517
Let's not talk out of our ass. They were all over the place as most people are.
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>>70195471
there was a big push at my high school and uni to get it recognized by ukrainian students

they went all out at my university too, had a huge public exhibit due to the ukrainian lobby. international school too with 1-2k russian foreign students who were probably pissed.
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FUCK YOU FAGGOT OP

RT MIGHT BE SENSATIONALIST AND BIASED AT TIMES BUT THEY ARE NO DIFFERENT IN THAT REGARD TO MAINSTREAM MEDIA

RUSSIA WILL ALWAYS BE PAINTED AS AN EVIL VILLAIN IN THE WEST SO FUCK OFF!!!
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>>70195496
It's not fake. There was a famine. But it was in Russia and Kazakhstan too. In Kazakhstan 1/3 of population died. And it was fault of commie authorities. But it wasn't "genocide against Ukrainians by Russians". Russians starved too especially in agriculture Volga region. And Ukrainians in cities were not starving.
Commies just fucked up but even if we assume they starved people on purpose it was aimed against social class of independent farmers not against ethnicity.
It was a tragedy anyway and use it now for political purposes to create ethnic hatred is disgusting.
t. have a lot of family members who died in that famine
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>>70191482
no, we only believe in glorious BBC and CNN

gotta go prep my bull now
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>>70195569
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>>70191482
Those who even know what it is, yes it seems.

Also, they hate Trump but love Putin.
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>>70195024
>>70195517
But let's be real, RT is not made up of old school Christian leftists. They push liberalism on the EU/US when they believe it will make the EU/US weaker. They push conservatism when it makes Russia stronger.
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FUCK RT SO FUCKING MUCH GOD DAMMIT, ITS EITHER THIS SHIT OR CCTV DURING THE DAY CAUSE IM A FUCKING POORFAGGOT, WELL FUCKS AT LEAST I HAVE FREE SPEECH TV WHERE I CAN CATCH SOME DEMOCRACY NOW/FRANCE24 AND SOME OTHER BS THATS WATCHABLE.
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I see clips of RT and it makes me think that it wants people to hate Africa. I dunno how it will benefit Russia, but I'm sure it has something to do with getting those sweet natural resources.
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>>70195557
I remember video from Canada where "Ukrainian activists" came to kindergarden for Russian kids and started to throw cakes and shout obscene words about Putin. There were children everywhere.
Ukrainian diaspora in Canada is fucked in the heda. There is Ukrainian-Canadian on Ukrainian tv said they need to kill millions of "excessive people" in east Ukraine and exploit others "as resource".
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>>70195645
I have france24 and dw on TV. I watched it for some time. Both are disgusting leftist propaganda.
The only news channel I know that really tries to be neutral is Euronews.
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>>70195687
Ehh, i can tolerate dw and euronews, but they're more of a quick outlook of stuff happening around the world, not much in depth like some new stories on al-jazeera. Of course i go on leddit too for the same thing.
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>>70191482
RT is obviously propaganda, but so are other news outlets, like Euronews and BBC News. They never get labelled propaganda, though.

New sources shouldn't receive state funding.
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>>70195859
Euronews was banned in Ukraine because it's too pro-russian.
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>>70195887
They're clearly the propaganda arm of the EC. After Brexit they went assassination-mode. I also saw a "report" from them that called Trump a liar.
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>>70195937
Personally I mostly watch Dugin's channel recently. They are really hardcore guys calls for Orthodox Crusade and war, building Eurasian empire, executing gays. Very nice channel. It's even called Tsargrad.
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>>70192533
>>70192616
oh boy, here we go
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>>70195887
Wat.
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>>70193023
>Google "migrant crime map Germany"
Google hoaxmap and correlate it with the "migant crime map Germany"
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>>70195983
https://www.euractiv.com/section/global-europe/news/ukraine-bans-euronews/
It has something to do that euronews is funded by different countries and Russia funds it too.
Also Ukrainians don't want to pay their share.
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>>70191482

RT doesn't broadcast in my country.
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bbc is alright
most of the news i watch on tv these days is pbs news hour, it seems to be the only non-partisan news source on tv
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>>70196041
Don't everyone has iptv of some sort those days? You often get it for free with internet package.
There is RT but it's in Engrish.
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All russian channels that shit out propaganda, banned for cable companies to broadcast, but some pigs cant stop eating trash and just watch their shit via satellite
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>>70192533
They obviously can't into proofs.
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>>70195937
>I also saw a "report" from them that called Trump a liar.
So they're reporting facts then. Good.
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>>70196107
You even banned Dozhd toplel. And they licked your ass so hard.
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>>70196193
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UwCkj92PuM
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>>70196225
And? Russia is totalitarian shithole and you are free europeans with freedom of speech.
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>>70196258
The law is the law. Freedom of speech doesn't mean we can now broadcast cp or whatever on TV
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>>70191482
RT is literally thousand times better than Fox news, Aj Jazeera and CNN combined
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>>70191482
>You should only watch BBC and CNN propaganda >;[
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>>70191482
BBC FOX CNN...cmon, all same western propaganda, I admire Russians for making RT todays wordwide famous news station, they are killing it. Also its Russian propaganda so, same shit, but somehow I belive more in their propaganda than UK/USA propaganda.
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>>70191482
>protest in the US
>only RT showing everything on live

And how is that wrong exactly? (Yes I get it :D)
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>>70191482
no
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>>70191482
They believe in the AFP, so why not RT?
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>>70191482
sure they are propaganda, but at least they dont hide it
meanwhile, german media pretends to be neutral while shilling hard for NATO
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>>70205011
But NATO are good guys what's wrong with it?
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>>70205097
there are no good or bad guys, only geopolitics
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>>70205269
B-but RT attacks countries for "being fascist" and "antimuslim" though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94iXUguTFZQ

It means that RT is a jew-shit as well
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>>70205275
NATO defends democracy, freedom, free markets and trade, human rights, gay rights. Values western civilization stands for.
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>>70205690
why are you baiting?
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>>70192191
>trump won because of RT

Neck yourself moronic cunt.
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>>70191720
ur face is uno canale del propagandas you fucking spic
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>>70205740
I wouldn't be even especially surprised by it. Even your current national security adviser Michael Flynn worked as a paid shit in RT for some time.

My theory is that Jewish elites ruling USA and Russia reached agreement and now they will try to rape and rob humanity together. Their main victim will be China
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>>70205805
>Their main victim will be China

Europe too.
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>>70205805
>no evidence offered that RT played any significant part in winning trump the election

k
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>>70191482
No, I follow the good goy news from my country like everyone else
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>>70205945
Change in USA's geopolitical strategy is visible with naked eye, though. Your country became such a violent and impoverished shithole that being an ally of Russia is kind of natural thing for you. You both are ruled by 1% that owns 99% of your wealth, and these 1 percents concluded that they may gain more by uniting instead of fighting each other. US and Russia are pretty much the same oligarchic systems based on looting other countries.
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>>70206021
> being an ally of Russia
For what purpose? Russia is useless for USA. It has economy of Gabon.
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>>70206080
>For what purpose?

To bully China. jewSA can't fight Russia and China at the same time because it is too weak for it
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The most unconvincing argument for RT is
>LE WHAT ABUT OTHA MEDIA XDXD
>OTHA MEDIA BAD TOO
No one doubts that every media organisation has an agenda. But this not not mean we should disregard RT's clear shortcomings in its journalistic integrity, nor be ignorant of the fact that is effectively the state sponsored mouthpiece of the Kremlin, that doesn't broadcast domestically but exclusively internationally. This is clearly done to sow unrest in Western political institutions and to create, through grassroots support, a political status quo which is preferable for Russia.
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>>70206105
Why would we bully China? We try to sell them resources because European countries try to diversify from Russian gas. Poland built gas port and would supply neighbors with that Saudi/Iranian/etc gas too.
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>>70206175
>We try to sell them resources

Good luck with that, because they don't want to buy at all. The Chinese are afraid of being dependent on you, because they feel the vibes of history and know that USA would like to use you to destroy them.
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>>70206164
RT invite people who would never be invited into mainstream media and report on things which are silenced. Ofc it has agenda but it's obvious and everyone knows it. So it's not bad to have such alternative source just take into consideration it's narrative if you watch it.
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>>70206175
>Why would we bully China?

In exchange for clay in Europe. USA will tell you: "ok, russian friends, you will begin to pressure China for us, and we will give you Europe to feed on, you can take Poland, plunder them, kill them, we don't care".

That's how it works.
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>>70206164
>Anglo buttblasted when his BBC propaganda machine gets called out in a double-counter-shilling thread
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>>70206175
Fear of growing Chinese influence over Central Asia, which has traditionally been in Russia's sphere of influence for centuries. Also concerns about demographic re-population in siberia and the far east, along with Russian concerns that the booming Chinese economy will cause unequal relations with Russia.

Basically Russia being China's bitch in the future because they have no economic alternative.
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>>70206198
We are best frends with China. We saved thier country and China saved Russia.
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>>70206294
There is no "friends" in politics
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>>70206281
Oh wow. Russia is not USSR. We can't afford occupation of something like Poland with population which hate us. It's hard and very expensive and pointless.
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>>70206320
But duty of depending exist. China back up Russia we back up China with matter of surviving.
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>>70192376

>conservative authors defending and praising
Russia

yeah, like Trump and his millions invested in Russia.
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>>70206353

But if USA deprived us of protection, you could pressure us easily: "if you don't buy our gas for high price, we will launch some rockets at your infrastructure", this kind of shit.
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>>70191482
as long as it's not CNN or Fox, then I think so. why? Is it a bad thing?
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>>70206392
If you don't buy our gas you'll starve as it is, that would be a stupid threat
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>>70206229
Sure, I think that aspect of RT is welcome in the fact that it allows previously unheard voices into political debate (of course online media is already doing this). What people need to be aware of is that unlike CNN, BBC and FOX, (which all undoubtedly have an agenda), RT is DIRECTLY funded by the Kremlin. It's sole purpose is to spread a Russian friendly view, or else why would the Russian Government spend that money that could otherwise be spent in other facets? It is exactly the same as Al Jazeera being directly funded by the monarchy in Qatar.

I'm not saying you should ignore it entirely, I openly encourage people to read from a wide range of sources and then make their own judgements on all issues. What I am urging is that people are aware of what they are consuming while watching/reading RT.

>>70206286
Not an argument.
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>>70206474
>If you don't buy our gas you'll starve as it is

That's bullshit though.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-eeurope-summit-idUKKCN0YM2QJ
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>>70206510
BBC is funded just as directly buddy, literally no difference
Same as Euronews
Same as radio liberty

US spends more on foreign Broadcasting propaganda than Russia every year since the end of cold war
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>>70206646
BBC is funded from taxes but is independent.
Euronews is funded from many participating sources including Russia.
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>>70206547
2022 is not now bro
Also I noticed it says "long term" so it means you can't do completely without it even then. Even if the plans work out.
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Western media's news about Japan has a biased.often
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Yes people here watch it a lot.
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>>70206646
You are correct, my mistake in including BBC but you still arn't understanding what I'm saying. I am not excusing other media outlets. I am only focusing on RT and the "whataboutism" of people trying to defend it purely on the basis that other media outlets do something similar. When people criticise the BBC, CNN and FOX (which many, MANY do) they certainly don't turn around saying
'Well what about Pravda, Sputnik, Ria Novosti, TASS, RT etc."

Anyway I have to go to bed. Sleep tight.
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>>70206714
> BBC is funded from taxes but is independent
That's a mantra and you know it.
Got anything on US media?
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>>70206729
Media is ALWAYS biased.
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>>70192023
Te recomiendo su web si quieres reírte un rato anon, la sección de comentarios de RT es maravillosa. Conspiranoia y antisemitismo al nivel de /pol/. No exagero.
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>>70206826
Good night
And I'm not "defending" RT
Nothing to defend it from, stating it's modeled after many other similar outlets that nobody has issue with is not "defending"
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Let's be hones here, which media isn't biased as fuck?
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>>70191482
t. CNN
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>>70206827
Difference is the UK government isn't a kgb mafia.
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>>70206974
>any government anywhere
>not mafia
i wish
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>>70191482
RT is the CNN of russia.
it's not THAT bad like say fox news and whatever the full-blown putin=god russian version is but it's relatively okay.
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>>70206944
Exactly. So what you are doing is bringing the standard of media down by saying "Well RT is just as bad as all these other media outlets".

But that still doesn't make it good! That still doesn't make it worthwhile! We've conceded that mainstream media outlets are bad, but it is clear Russian State media is just as bad, if not worse! So this is hardly a valid defence of the media. You are admitting that RT is shit, in the justification that all other media outlets are supposedly shit. But taken in isolation, looking PURELY at RT while ignoring other media outlets, you can conclude that it is also a poor media organisation.
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>>70191482
I regularly watch RT. I think it's good to get your information from different sources so you can form your own opinion.

>>70192742
Have you ever watched CNN en Español? It's total crap.
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>>70191482
RT is better than most news Western outlets. Thats why (((they))) want to shut it down
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>>70192742
People are self rightous by nature and don't like to have their belief contradicted or challenged.
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>>70207167
RT is good exactly because it compliments the other bad media but provides a different view point
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>>70191482
No. Here we are only stupid enough to believe our own propaganda media.
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>>70191482

Based Macri banned it from our broadcast

https://actualidad.rt.com/video/210072-rt-dejara-emitir-argentina-orden
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