Why did Spanish/Portuguese colonies not succeed?

wtf I hate Japan now

define succeed

>>70065473
France colonies too.

Simply because Spain was focused on getting as much cash as possible from their colonies (which they used to fund many obscure wars). This meant that Spain sunk most of their investment into silver mines and sugar plantations, which got fast, large returns and made Spain the richest nation in Europe. However, these mines and plantations were not sustainable over long periods of time, partly because the incredibly abusive Spanish labor practices killed many of the native workers. This left South America with relatively little infrastructure and weak governments.
On the other hand, when the British colonized North America, they found no gold or silver and land that was not suitable for sugar plantations, which were the main cash crop of South America and the Caribbean. Although these European settlers produced some export goods (such as furs and timber in French Canada and tobacco and later cotton in the South), they were more concerned with producing enough food for themselves to eat, particularly in the early days. This produced far less money for Britain and France, the main colonizers of North America, but made the colonies more independent and more able to develop their own economies.

I know exactly what you're trying to do.

Nip holocaust when /lat/ brothers? This faggot is passively insulting us.

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>>70065473
>in b4 whatever arbitrary reason Indian and Africa don't count

>>70065552
I don't even usually think about nips, though. I don't know why you're caring so much about what he said.

>>70065641
t. nip
Two nukes weren't enough

>>70065641

Behead those that insult /luso/.

> The eternal Anglo
> The eternal American
> Oligarchy
> Communism and leftistfags
> Corruption

>>70065628
This, spanish colonies are the most succesful one tbqh.

This thread again? It's like the third time I've seen this.

>>70065921
> The eternal American
hey i forgot to ask, do you happen to know if latin america is grateful to us that we rid you of the communism? there was a thread about that recently but i forgot what the conclusion was

>>70065552
I think he is just curious. I ve seen quite a few threads of a jap OP asking things related to /lat/ and in a very respectful way.

>>70065921
>right wing military dictators/ puppets dindu nuffin
Always an Argie.

>>70065947
Yes, me too, but I forgot what we decided. Do you guys grateful or not? Please respond

Tequila and beheadings all day, erry day.

>>70065983
The coclusion was: DEATH TO AMERICA

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>>70065983
>>70066019

>>70066036
Oh shit. I may have missed that.

>>70066036
TAKBIR ESE

>>70065983
/spoiler/ No

>>70066073
So I thought! Just checking

>>70065983
Didn't work so well for everyone...

>>70065473
>watching this soon to be trainwreck slowly

>>70065473
I think there are various degrees of success within latin america, but overall you could compare Lat with Eastern Europe.

>>70065983
>>70066019
>>70066036

>>70066103
But you guys clearly benefited from it. Are you grateful at least? Come on based Chile. You are doing better than others. You are surrounded by the commies. We are your best friend and it is cool to be friends with us.

>>70065495
Isn't your president Japanese though?

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>mfw living near the tomb of the founder of my city who expelled the frogs

>>70065539
Thanks. But do you have the source for this?

>>70065983
>we rid you of the communism?

Is this what you really believe

>>70065998
Both were crap.
Right: much Condor Plan
Left: much destabilizing and dictatorships

Thanks to the American interference lots of dictators could take the power and fuck our economy up. If the Americans and commies wouldn't interfere...

>>70066210
You should've listened to those who wanted to unite Spanish America.

Inquisition broke the technical and mercantile structure of Portugal and Spain, forcing economies based on exploration of raw resources and trading with England and France for early manufactured products, like fabrics etc.

>>70066147
>But you guys clearly benefited from it
That's what I meant. But now commies are martyrs now and they are everywhere.

Why did the Spanish/Portuguese breed so much with the natives? Couldn't they have brought families?

>>70066201
But it is true. Remember that Argie doctor? He spread communism all over the americas. We killed him. Also got rid of the commies in Chile and Argentina and Guatemala and El Salvador etc etc. And you have steel thanks to us. You r junta was not brutal at all and you liked it.

Brazil was doing fine until they kicked out the emperor. It's like the US civil war, but with a Confederate victory.

>>70066234
The inquisition wasn't an economic structure, in Mexico it did actually help protect Amerindians from abuse which was nominally its most important mission in New Spain.

Plus it did ocassionally burn Lutherans at the stake which is always fun.

>>70066259
women on boats are bad luck

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>>70066225
Lefties? At least we could finally get rid of them (thanks god). Emperor Macri is rapping all the Kirchneristas and those lefties.

>>70066246
Everywhere? Maybe in Argentina but how are they "martyrs" in Chile?

>>70066315
Do you guys need any political help from us?

>>70066315
No. People like Bolívar and San Martin

>>70066326
Maybe not EVERYWHERE but plenty of them. And because they got oppressed/killed during dictatorship, so many people see them as good guys. It was too brutal for people too see them as bad guys.

>>70065473
We were on track during the 19th century empire, we were even richer than most Europe and received a shit ton of immigrants. However we had multiple coups and years of dictatorships who fucked us over, same thing with Argentina.

>>70065473
To much nigger/asian/soutern european dna to have a civilized society

>>70066310
The expelled Jews couldn't own land, so they worked with commerce, banking, law etc. They literally took their business elsewhere. In Northeast Brazil a lot of sugar plantations belonged to jews and conversos who moved their farms to the Caribbean Dutch colonies because of the Inquisition.

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>>70066348
Remove all our creditors and make their deaths look like they committed suicide lol
and everything will be ok

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>>70066423
This, lets proff this point with old photos from latin countries!

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>>70066499

>>70066499
>>70066517

keep them coming

>>70066375
Aah I get it. It would have been impossible. South America is too huge to make a nation with all the countries united. Besides there are countries that, setting aside the same Spanish culture and heritage, have few things in common with each other. The only unions that could have worked (and can work) nowadays are: Argentina-Uruguay, Maybe Peru-Bolivia and Colombia-Venezuela-Ecuador t.b.h

>>70065983
There is still a lot of left ideology here so no but thanks for the effort.

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>>70066499
Here's another

Electrical tram in 19th century Rio de Janeiro, one of the first's in the world

>>70066415
But nevertheless you never had any of that pepperonism kirchnerism nonsense like in Argentina and lefties never seized power in Chile since the end of Pinochet's rule. So you are good. If Allende remained in power, you'd be Venezuela tier right now.

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>>70066602
So what do you guys think about 10,000 presidents and coups and regime changes that you had since 1954? Was it all bad?

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>>70065628
Fixed some stuff here and there
t. unironically autistic

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>>70066607
Well remembered friendo, here is a picture of the first passengers.
>>70066590
A confederation could've worked, A properly done railway system connecting all countries would've helped, just like it did in Russia.

>>70065473

Some did. Like Macau.

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>>70065473
You succeeded me I love !!

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>>70065473

>>70066624
Allende was a retard dreamer, so yes.
Try to tell this to a commie though, you can't.

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>>70066854
>>70066880
Yes, well done Paolo, however...

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>>70066934

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>>70066936
1820s

>>70066960
*sorry wrong date*

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>>70066960
A little bit desolate, reminds me of the time I was a cadet in the navy.

>>70065473
The USA and USSR took a huge dookie all over Latin America and Substandard Africa during the Cold War.

>>70066697
Kinda

>>70066856
Left wing here (socialist), AMA

>>70065473
>>70065473
Nevereding string of coups after coups after coups plus in a whole lot of them the vast majority of the population were niggers who to this day live like 10k years ago

>>70066159
Nah she lost, their president is some kind of german pole or something

>>70066308
Finally someone who with a good theory

>>70065651
I like you Peru

>>70065473
they just been devoured by evil protestant nation America. I believe South America has huge potential to be flourish if their education and work ethics improved.

>>70066259
You have clearly never met an Iberian woman.

I mean, we probably did take some and ended up throwing them overboard even before we stopped in Madeira, the annoying bitches.

The real question is, why did the Brits and Franks take women with them to the new world? That's like taking sand to the beach.

>>70065628
britain > spain > POORtugal > france

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>>70070438
zurdista de mierda sos pelotudo, vas a la concha de tu vieja recuerda que lopez rega, tio jorge y pinochet no perdona dos veces

>>70071313
>tfw all the lusitanic and hispanic girls I've met from south america have mostly been sweet/10 or thots with hearts of gold where-as all the Iberian girls (all spanish mind) have been mega-thots and bitchy.
>tfw no qt3.14 castiza gf

>why did the Brits and Franks take women with them to the new world?

Idk, but its probably a reason for why we're first world. And probably also why are women are shithouse because anglo women a shit

No idea but we are not responsible for the Amerindians as the British are not responsible for the Abos in Australia or the Blacks in South Africa or Jamaica.

Also Criollos (descendants of Spaniards living in America) were, and they still are a prosperous social group, probably more prosperous and rich than British Australians or British Americans.

>>70065473
Will you stop posting this thread you dumb nip.

>>70066210
if we didn't step in and liberate you the commies would have taken over
we did what we did to stop them
>>70066315
also what the fuck is it with latins and these simpson memes

>>70066499
>>70066517
>>70066607
>>70066760
>>70066782
>>70066838
>>70066854
>>70066880
>>70066934
>>70066936
>>70066937
>>70066958
>>70066960
>>70066987
WE

wuz civilized n sheeittt

European spics aren't as produtive as northern Europeans to start with, and in addition to that they mixed with intellectually inferior races.

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>what is san escobar?

>>70071902
>European spics aren't as produtive as northern Europeans
Shitty excuse, Nordics have done so little to matter in history that they started this whole "white is better" thing just to get the British and French achievements by proxy, Same thing for the Germans.

Don't get fooled by the snow jews just because they have blue eyes, up until 1900 they were nothing, and just have had barely a century of prosperity.

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>>70071902
>new worlders obsessed with race
how ironic

>>70065473
At least I'm not in Africa

>>70072012
It is Escobar-san! Don't you know about his theoreme?

They were richer than Spain but they destroyed themselves with socialism

>>70077103
LOL
O
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>>70077103
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAJ

>>70065473
Meça suas palavras, parça.

>>70077138
It's true
>>70077257
What are you trying to prove?

>>70078087
That you were right, basically.

>>70065473
They just like to have a party and sex and drugs. And wanna have lots of welfares without rising taxs and fucking bakrupted like PIGS. And stupid politicians

>>70065473
Argentina started as Buenos Aires + the rest.
Buenos Aires tried to be Europe insted to be USA. When it tried to be USA, fail because it was under the power of UK.
It has a lot of civil wars and never fixed the industry and took a lot of debts.
The rest of the country always was shit and never did anything more than ask for money to Buenos Aires.

It will never change.

>>70065473
Because they bred with the natives instead of wiping them out and building European-type states.

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>>70065473

not much to begin with, if you start with shit intead of clay no matter how good you are you'll end with shit in the end.

>>70065473
Because countries like the United States fucked us in the ass when we were developing, in the meantime the US and Europe had time to recover from the war but South America was stopped for 40 years

>>70078178
Ah, I see

>>70065628
Why did Portugal's colonies turn into just one country while Spain's turned into lots of different nations?

>>70081505
>Angola
>Mozambique
>Brasil
>one country

wat

>>70065473
sucess for spanish economy but thanks to france and germany we are free ;)

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>>70077257
this map doesnt portray the peak of each country

>>70077257
>>70082306
the inequality in Argentina back then was absolutely insane though.