germans are always welcome to finland

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>>70001068
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lapland_War

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>>70001068
never trust an finn

>>70001068
>>70001540
So which one is it?

>>70001793

Germans aren't welcome here our refugee centers are full

>>70001622
Reminder that Finns were in the axis.

>>70002052
*Finns ARE the only remaining unconquered axis

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>>70002052
all 3 free uralic countries were in the axis

really joggin ur noggin tbqhwu

>>70002052
>>70002111
No, we were only ever co-belligerents, no matter what Wehraboos would like you believe.

>>70002205
best tree

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>>70002205
>>70002377
I like that comic too.

>>70002052
Reminder that Finns were traitors.

>>70002334
semantics used as communist butthurt balm. finland was 100% an axis country and would have benefited incredibly from a german victory.

>>70002547
>finland was 100% an axis country and would have benefited incredibly from a german victory
nah, they would've empowered swedes and other germanic peoples
and I want to see them genocided

>>70002547
>finland was 100% an axis country

what?

>not fascist
>openly squashed a fascist uprising
>democratic
>several socialist land reform laws

Finland was always and unwilling ally, except for the continuation war when Finns were angry at the loss of land.

>>70002547

lol what a brainwashed cuck

Germans thought Finns were subhumans but were willing to let us die for them. We wouldn't have had a future in a Nazi controlled Europe.

>>70002690
>>70002837
I didn't know ANTIFA was so common in Finland.

>>70002837
this, we only were Honorary Aryans, in essence sub-humans who were granted Aryan status (temporarily) because we were allied with Germans.

>>70002936
you're fucking retarded, lad

>>70002936

I'm not antifa, I'm right wing.
I just realize the obvious problem with a Finnish Finland in a Nazi Europe. We are racially mixed people and it's quite obvious in many of us.

>>70002938
Still better ally than fucking italy.

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>>70002577
>they would've empowered swedes and other germanic peoples
Oh yeah, just like they empowered Norway and Denmark, totally. The Nazi leaders valued loyalty and support more than ethnicity. hence their deals with japs. >>70002547 is right: an Axis victory would have been huegly beneficial for Finland. You could have carved out a very nice slice of Russia for yourselves, at the very least.

>>70002690
>several socialist land reform laws
Wouldn't be something the national socialists would be against.

>>70002837
While Germans were arrogant fucks, it's more of a German thing than a Nazi thing. They basically did had the same thing in plan in ww1 too, this is why they orchestrated the whole Bolshevik revolution and stuff.

Westerner great powers always shat on small eastern countries.

>>70002938
Like Croatians, Hungarians, Bulgarians, Slovakians (but not the Czechs), Hitler bended his ideology to the current situation. Having said that this is exactly the reason he wouldn't have "genocided" all his allies after the war, it's ridiculous.

>>70002993

They could have forced Finns into a resettlement program and we would have been powerless to fight back.
Finland for Finland-Swedes and other Germanics, one corner of Urals for Finns.
That's probably how it would have went down.

>>70002577
>>70002690
>>70002837
>>70002938
>>70002969
>>70002976
managed to trigger all the communist traitors.
all higher level politics with germany hinged on the personal opinions of hitler. hitler liked finns, if germany had won funland would have been on the winners side and benefited greatly.

special mention to this guy >>70002976 he's not even a communist traitor, just a retard.

>>70003097
>>70002547
this is right
>>70002837
>>70002690
>>70002577
clueless as fuck

>>70003097
Hitler would have turned us into Swedes after the war. Finns and finnish language would have been extinct before 2000s

>>70003097
>>70003135

Calm down with the samefagging.
Nazis wouldn't have wanted a Finno-Ugric state next to Scandinavia. They might not have killed us but deported us to a new homeland far from Finland.

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>>70003079
Nah, >>70003035 is right (though he seems to think Nazis were socialists for some reason) Germany didn't and wouldn't have waged war for racial-philosophical reasons. They wouldn't have rewarded a neutral Sweden with Finland. Maybe if the eternal swede was insanely crafty, we could have gotten some German support, but even that's unlikely. If Sweden had been Axis as well, we would likely be the Nazis favourites, but alas we weren't.

>>70003035
>he wouldn't have "genocided" all his allies after the war, it's ridiculous
As if. He wouldn't have postponed the cleansing of undesirables any longer than he had to, ie. until the end of the war at which point we wouldn't have had any say over our own destiny.

>>70003241

It was about race not rewards. Finns aren't a part of the same race as Swedes and Germans.

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>>70002577
>>70003079
>>70003152

>>70002976
>>70003152
>>70003193
>>70003271
>>70003299
>>>/ylilauta/
>>>/r/finland/
etc.

>>70003341
I'm glad that they lost, now we get to witness the well-deserved genocide of Swedes

>>70002993
>Oh yeah, just like they empowered Norway and Denmark, totally.
They did though, encouraging them to breed like rabbits and whatnot.

>>70003400

Well with German but still, they thought of Danes and Norwegians as a high race and their wombs can be used to breed a new generation of German supersoldiers.

>>70003299
The Nazis could, and did overlook race when it suited them. A Finland that was allied to them would have been secure. Maybe internal politics in Finland would lead to Finland-Swedes becoming the dominant culture, but that is the most unlikely, far fetched alternate ww2 scenario I can imagine.

>>70003400
But also performed scorched earth tactics in Norway and after the installation of a regime stopped the Norwegian regime from invading Finland.
Wish we could get those benefits, level our cities and hinder us politically and militarily, but at least they're telling us to breed!

Kill yourself.

>>70003193
>>70003079
>nazi germayn would have attacked finland after the war and forced them to move to the urals
[citation needed]

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>>70003370
Why so mean, man? :(

>>70003498
>Maybe internal politics
>internal politics
You wish, Scandiboo notsees would've forced them into power had Germans won the war. And we could've done nothing about it.

>>70003523
It's just communist idiots projecting the fact that if soviets had managed to conquer us they'd have done what they did in estonia and deported a quarter of the population to Siberia and replacing them with russians.

>>70003509
That was because you fought back, even though you wouldn't have been genocided had Germans emerged victorious.

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>>70003509
Exactly. What happened to Norway and Denmark was not something that would be desirable to any germanic country.

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>>70003534

>>70003523
>>70003581
The Nazis wouldn't have wanted an Uralic, racially impure ethnostate next to the purest of Germanics. You can twist and turn it however you want to but they just wouldn't have.

>>70003626
So "not genociding" and installing a puppet government equals "empowering"?

>>70003682
>The Nazis wouldn't have wanted an Uralic, racially impure ethnostate next to the purest of Germanics.
Source?

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>>70003682
Why not? They were fine with bending the Aryan rules to accommodate Italy.

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>>70003682
Nazis co-wroted a book about "greater Finland" i like Nationalism and all but super spearheaded isolationism and hostile attitude on everyone around you because their not the same haplogroup as you seems a bit far stretched ideal doesn't it.

>>70003816
Not to mention fucking Japan, and even fucking Ukraine

The Nazis clearly didn't care that much about their racial theories when it came time to choose allies.

>>70003581

>le le le communist boogieman is behind dis

Communism is retarded as is anarchism.
That doesn't change the fact that Finland is not a Germanic( aka Aryan) , or even an Indo-European country.

>>70003816
>>70003876
Japan could've fought back, at least for a while. If Hitler decided to cleanse us we could've done nothing.

>>70003921
It's a lot of Shouldacouldawoulda from you but till this post you have not given a single source on anything you've said. Interesting that people have been this eager to answer you despite it.

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>>70003977
Finns are fun to talk to.

>>70003977
Of course they didn't have any official plans to exterminate us (yet), but our Honorary Aryan status alone reveals that we were considered racially impure. You're naive to think that such a people would've been allowed to coexist with Germanics too far into the future.

>>70004071

This. They had Chechen allies too, does that mean they thought Chechens were their equals?

>>70003241
>(though he seems to think Nazis were socialists for some reason)
They WERE socialists, you dumb-dumb. They supported way more than just land reforms.
>>70003271
>Hitler wanted to genocide anyone, who isn't German is a dumb maymay in itself, but also you should really think about HOW he would've attacked his allies, when he had no chance of ever conquering the US of A, had the nips, the Italians, a bunch of allies from Bulgaria to Finland, not to mention huge swathes of conquered land and people. And neutral countries.

And also his own people. Even if Hitler would've been some kind of homocidal maniac, he simply could've done something ridiculous like this.

Hitler was kind of delusional and a maniac, but he wasn't outright insane. People want to paint Hitler as the literal devil to exonerate themselves from the whole Holocaust and ww2 biz. Like Germans in fact wouldn't have genocided the Jews, it was all the Nazis' trickery, Bulgarians, Hungarians, Romanians... etc. dindu nuffin, they didn't want to hand over the Jews, occupied Poles, French and Dutch didn't help the Jewish genocide by ratting out their neighbors.

In fact before Hitler it was always a toss up between antisemitism and liberal tolerance, and Hitler could only utilize the underlying sentiments that were already present. The same thing with the war.

The idea of Hitler turning on the allies of Germany, with an exhausted nation, ruling over already huge amount of people, with America in his back, after the war is quite frankly preposterous.

If he would've even attempted he would've been facing an open rebellion in the army, and a coalition of half of Europe, the national uprising of the other half and possible Japanese and American intervention.

Also it doesn't make any sense. Even if Hitler were to think Huns, Finns, pastaniggers and slavs are inferior, he would've had no reason with all the lands, slaves and everything he got to go after us.

>>70003682
You're an idiot making an idiotic conjecture based on absolutely nothing except "hurr nazis wuz evil racists".

Hitler and his ministers never made any demands from the finns for land concessions, political reform, becoming a part of the reich. They didn't even imply any of that because quite frankly it would be idiotic. You have nothing to work with.

Meanwhile you're ready to throw away the facts that finland and germany were on very good terms, hitler personally was impressed by finnish martial skill and loyalty to the axis and the only demands germans ever made from finland was to hand over the jews, only 8 of which were handed over.

Kill yourself.

>>70004113
Who knows, but jumping from "allies that they didn't consider to be on the same level as them" to "lol they would have killed them after the war" is retarded.

>>70003802
I bet you think trump is a racist.

why the fuck would you want all those Russians

>>70003921
>If Hitler decided to cleanse us we could've done nothing.

What the fuck are you even talking about? Imagine the reaction of Hungary, Italy, Romania and Bulgaria the moment HItler would've turned on Finland. Or any other one of his allies.

The reaction of Japan. Of the United States. Of the foreign SS members, the Estonians, Latvians and all the others.

Of his own fucking soldiers, who fought a very hard war and sacrificed so much and were fed for years with propaganda about the struggle of poor nations standing up against the ebul Soviets.

The generals. Most of them only supported Hitler during the last years, because they genuinely believed that fighting back would give a chance of conditional surrender and bit better peace deal, from what they've learned from 1918 is that chaos and collapse is the worst, it'd better losing some ground, then to capitulate and then get royally fucked.

If after a decade of bitter fighting Hitler would've decided to go to war against the remainder of the world, they would've got rid of him very quickly.

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>>70004168
You're right about Hitler and Finland, completely wrong about the Nazis. They were not socialists in any sense of the word, they only claimed to be. For all they spewed about toppling jewish financial oligarchs, they proposed and did nothing to place workers in control of production.

>>70004173
>>70004298
The oven was the only destiny that was ever in store for Honorary Aryans.

>>70004495
Well I'm not that familiar on the Nazi stance on land reform, but Hungarists supported radical land reform, complete seizure of all the land from the church and the aristocrats and giving it to the smallholder peasant families

They were also for the collectivization of the factories and Szálasi, the head of the "to the last man" Blut und Ehre, Budapest-fortress puppet regime even complimented the gommies for using "Hungarist methods" of establishing gommunism.

And he even offered his expertise to Rákosi, the gommie dictator, but he was like "Nah." and executed him. :D

>>70004731
Nazis for the most Part didn't care about reforming land ownership. Their idea of a classless society was that poor people just ignore being poor as long as the rich people aren't Jews. Land in General was really a secondary concern to them, as they planned to conquer the whole of Eastern Europe as Lebensraum from the beginning.
The Nazis also controlled the industry to a certain degree, which could be called socialism, but they didn't touch the capitalist system itself. As long as the capitalist weren't jewish or liberal or something at least.

1. You're all huge faggots.
2. You're all ranting rhetoric at each other with no sources to your claims.

Wikipedia says Uralic people's come from some river in a Siberian mountain rage, so where the fuck did the Finns=Mongolians meme come from?
>>70002976
A mixture of what?

>>70003676
What did he mean by this?

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>>70001068
>>70002052
Looks like I derailed this thread completely. Funny.

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>>70005901
I didint expect less from you

>>70005901
>derailed a thread by talking about the topic
What?

>>70005681
there are theories of altaics and uralics being related to each other, hence mongol meme

>>70005990
>[Largely discredited]
It was resurrected by Finnish meme masters for the image board era.

>>70004627
Antifa btfo

>>70006049
So you wanted to be Mongolians?