Does anybody else feel nostalgia/sadness for the fallen monarchs

>>69988512
literally who?

Fuck monarchs, Willy the autist is a cautionary tail for all of europe.

>our ethnicities
You better be on vacation or diaspora from the last ten years.

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>really important to our culture and identity. They were symbols of our countries, of our ethnicities

Die.

>>69988550
>Willy the autist is a cautionary tail for all of europe.

I'm not sure the blame can all be put on him. I do think that monarchs having too much power leads to disaster, but at the same time they serve a valuable symbolic purpose for us.

>You better be on vacation or diaspora from the last ten years.

I was obviously talking about my own country there, Hans. I did say "the Hanovers here in America", after all....

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fuck them, i hope all the usurpers on earth will die slowly

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Look at the best of Britain's current monarchy

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>>69988748
I say the best because Harry is dating a black woman right now

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>>69988761
Some other nation's monarch actually married a black woman and had a niglet child. Luxembourg? Lithuania?

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>>69988780
Grandpa Spain's monarch had to resign after they found him stealing money from the country treasury

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>>69988806
Even Denmark's monarch married an American, and she didn't even speak Danish. She was a "nude glamor" mode like our Melania

>>69988512
>unironically supporting an affront to human dignity

This post could only come from an american

>>69988609
Our last good monarchs lived during hre times and these were often requiered to actually fight for their little duchies. You dont need some inbred family strutting around in luxury as a unifying symbol like the brits with their silly relict queen that keeps fucking worthless corgie dogshits in a lifestyle that exeeds the one of your average chav hundredfold.
The nationalistic spring of nations discarded and weakened the monarchies and it was this that revitalised our identites and not the fucking nobles.

Priour to the march revolition we had nobles who were ashamed to speak german and preferred to speak french at the courts,trying to kill the entitled fucks was good for all of us.
There are better tools to fuel ethnic collectivism.

>>69988761
I'd rather see pics of that "black" woman tbqh famalam

>>69988512
>culture
Is a product of material circumstances of our being. Probably you would be one of the 90% of peasants and factory workers back in the past, so you won't have no touch with the high culture of those years.
>symbols
Don't mean shit on their own.
Op is like that dumb horse with ribbons from Animal Farm.

>>69988913
Maybe. Idk, we kind of romanticize monarchy, look at how so many of our movies and shows revolve around them. I'm sure Europeans have a different perspective, since you kind of killed/exiled your monarchs.

i just wish we still had the vasa dynasty instead of some french faggots
i like our current king though

>>69988995
the best countries in europe are still monarchies senpai

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>>69988931
Meghan Markles, American actress

She's half black, black mother, white father

>>69988995
i think monarchs are shit on too much in general,
it was the system that was the problem, not the king.

>>69988826
She's Australian you tard.

>She was a "nude glamor" mode like our Melania
Wat. She was an advertising exec.

>>69988972
>no touch woth highculture
Peasants lived the ideal of romanticism the early nationalists were into. The exaltion of the peasant and worker in the next centuries could be seen as a backlash to the alienation betweeb the baroque highculture you might be thinking of and the regular people.
Continental europe during colonial times was authoritanian and archaic in comparison to the west of today but due to this change in thought still a humanitarian oasis in comparison to the rest of eurasia.

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>>69989075
Oops, I meant Sweden

> the Swedish media have published the photos of Princess Sofia in various states of undress, but these have not caused any great controversy.
> “It’s a shame there’s still so much written about that,” she told Swedish Television in January. “It was 10 years ago, I’ve gotten on with my life since then,” she said. “I don’t regret anything. All these experiences have made me the person I am. I wouldn’t have made those choices today.”

but Denmark's new queen didn't speak Danish. They're basically rich people marrying models from around the world, but happen to be "royalty"

>>69989136
>early nationalists
And some socialists. Herzen viewed russian peasant commune as the ideal society.

>>69989146
>"royalty"
do they not benefit from the realm they rule?
if they do they are royal

>>69988995
The ideal of the medieval warriorking who lived in symbiosis with his servs had been pretty much made obsolete by the start of industrialisation and the improved means of force projection avaible to the state.
Its this time in which the neat broad streets got popular in europe because they were designed with the intend to not only improve the infrastructure but also to make it possible to mow down thousands of protestors with gunlines on the streets without giving them the ability to hide as easy.
Look up the weaver uprisings as an example of what made europeans reduce the monarchs power by force.
Later on during the 1900s, monarchs absolutely had to portray themselves as an embodiment and extension of the populous. This would today seem weird as the rhetoric that comes with this has been discredited after the freat sperg out of various despots from the 20s onward I guess.

>>69989291
Sure, they get a lavish lifestyle supported by taxes

>>69988995
You fought one of the most famous revolutionary wars in history to secede from a monarchy, and then immediately formed a republic. I find it weird that Americans like them so much.

>>69989044
I don't like the monarchy, but you have to have respect for based Harry, killing Taliban and dating actresses.

>>69989317
That and a permanent safety net. A prince could go around killing people and it'd be hushed up.

>>69989354
>A prince could go around killing people and it'd be hushed up.
do republifags seriously believe this?

Fugg the monarchy. I'm sorry for our cute loli princesses Leonor and Sofía but monarchies should disappear.

>>69989417
your prince married a slut, and literally no one in Sweden cared

>>69989417
Next I bet you'll tell me the crown didn't have MI6 kill Diana.

>>69989216
Eastern europe was still more like feudal medieval europe in some regions at that time I guess. Ive got a buddy with cossak ancestry and what he told me about village life presented an astoundishingly balance of power and a pretty meritocratic system were you could marry into your local noble family if you got to be a mercenary like them.
If your servs still feed you directly, life around the corner and theoretically could gang up to carve your head in if they really wanted to you apparently can get a pretty solid system over hundred of years of trial and error.

>>69989417
In germany during the 1800s nobles would pay off their gambling debts and other financial deficits by kidnapping local peasants and selling them as war-slaves to the brits who used them as cannonfodder to put down the rebellion in america.
I dont know about Sweden but in some parts of europe they could do whatever the fuck they wanted.

>>69989458
That's because caring about politicians' private lives is an American thing that MSM are trying to force upon us. Europeans never gave a shit about whom the king / president / first secretary was screwing, in part because mistresses were always a constant in royal courts. Royal marriages were political and made to ensure peace and stability, love and attraction just aren't part of politics. Why do you think that voters were not swayed by the bedtime "scandals" of Berlusconi, Hollande, Sarkozy, etc? Even in Latin America (or especially in Latin America), Castro used his womaniser fame as a leverage. Why? Because only the media care about this. We want politicians to be sincere and loyal to the nation, we couldn't give less of a shit if they are loyal to their wives.

Meanwhile in Calvinist-founded America, the elected president MUST be faithful to his wife or else he'll suffer public humiliation and deemed unfit to rule the country. "If he cannot be loyal to his own family, how can he be loyal to the whole nation?", sophists ask.

>>69989607
>being loyal to your wife is not an admirable or desirable trait in a man

Seriously? Spaniards must be as bankrupt morally as they are financially.

>"If he cannot be loyal to his own family, how can he be loyal to the whole nation?", sophists ask.
That's not sophistry. If a person feels unbound by the promises they make, they are an untrustworthy person, whether those promises are marital or political.

Also, you've completely flipped the question. You deflected the remark about the Prince of Sweden marrying a slut by saying it was okay for monarchs to sleep around. I thought the monarchy was supposed to represent the country. Do you really want your country to be represented by the man who married Jenna Jameson's sloppy seconds?

>>69989480
what the fuck is a Diana?
>>69989527
source?
>>69989748
>muh morals the post

>>69989870
>what the fuck is a Diana?
>Eritrean education

>>69989870
>muh morals the post
I'm not surprised a Swede doesn't believe in morality.

>>69989748
yes. stealing is not that badly seen, a lot of lower class people, even kids, do it regularly. its a very shitty mindset
people will not get mad about stealing but about getting caught

>>69989607
> lol it's okay if our women are slutting it around and our men are fucking prostitutes!
> so tolerant and progressive

>>69989354
>You fought one of the most famous revolutionary wars in history to secede from a monarchy, and then immediately formed a republic. I find it weird that Americans like them so much.

Right? It's weird. I think we want what we can't have. It doesn't help that so many of our most popular movies and shows revolve around Kings and Queens and princesses and princes and nobles.

>>69988972
I didn't know Russians were allowed to read Animal Farm.

>>69989978
your country is the one promoting stuff like paradise hotel, not our fault.
she's not american btw, she's born and raised in sweden.
no idea where you people got that from

>>69990096
>your country is the one promoting stuff like paradise hotel, not our fault.
A reality show on a private network is not as representative of the United States as the bloody monarchy is of Sweden.

>>69990096
>paradise hotel

I've never heard of this. Can you explain?

>>69990024
It's like a bible plus a crystal ball for us. Just open a proper page and you will see what you face next

>>69990151
he's 4th in line, he wont be king in his lifetime.
>>69990171
hollywood reality-tv shit
even the swedish version is made in hollywood

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>>69990179
>Just open a proper page and you will see what you face next

lmao so true

>>69990208
>he's 4th in line, he wont be king in his lifetime.
He's still a member of the royal family. Losing his succession was only happenstance anyway.

>>69990271
he was born as the second child, how is that happenstance.
it's happenstance if the others somehow die before him.

>>69990349
>Carl Philip was heir apparent to the throne of Sweden for seven months, until 1 January 1980 when a law came into effect which made natural birth order the basis for succession to the throne, replacing the principle of agnatic primogeniture.
Checkmate.

>>69988826
>>69989146
She was a Swede, and she didn't marry the monarch, obviously. Just the son of the king, the one who's fourth in line, and won't inherit the throne. Not that the crown princess married much better, though. Her husband was her gym trainer.

>>69990450
reforms arent random though

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This
Monarchs are Gods choosen
The 18th century was the peak of human civilization

>>69990685
Are you suggesting your constitutional law was amended specifically so that guy couldn't be king?

>>69989317
The royal family only get 15% of the money made from the Crown Estate. 85% goes to the taxpayer.

And that's before you take into account the benefit to tourism, etc.

>>69990772
Tfw you will never live in Victorian Britain.

>>69991011
Any how exactly was the Crown Estate established?

>>69991039
And how exactly was Rockefeller's or Henry Ford's empires established?

They were smart enough and strong enough to create it. Just as the Windsors did.

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>habsshits

>>69991101
Rockeller and Henry Ford had companies, while the crown estate was made by armies killing peasants and taking their land

> oh but 85% of it goes back to the people :3

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>Habsburgs
>good
>gone

Do you realise those inbred fucks exist to this day and only marry with another noble families? They are also rich as fuck

>>69991101
>>69991271
Also, if Henry Ford's descendant fills the same role as him and is a retard, the company will tank. It's a meritocracy. Monarchism plainly is not.

>>69988512
Kys

Sic semper tyrannis muthafucka

>ywn be guillotined in a square for having denounced the lavish lifestyle of the royalty while commoners were dying of starvation and pestilence

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>>69991406
Cause clearly monarchies can never fall due to shitty leadership.

>>69991522
>posts example from a century ago
I stand by what I said.

>>69991271
One built on the back of exploiting the lower class of peasants.

The other built on the back of exploiting the lower class of workers.

I fail to see the difference.

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>>69991561
2008

>>69991581
>The other built on the back of exploiting the lower class of workers
Perhaps if "being paid wages in exchange for your labour" is your definition of "exploitation", then you're correct, yes.

>>69988512
No.
I like the wheel of history.
We don't lose parts of cultures with death of monarchs.
It should evolve anyway according new times, only te most brilliant pieces of it to stay with us forever.

>>69991633
I know you'll accuse me of moving the goalposts, but I genuinely thought we were only discussing European monarchies, which is why I didn't mention Thailand's ladyboy king when I was criticising monarchism earlier.

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>>69991671
1973 recent enough?

>>69989432
i fuck ur a's mouth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!cum on ur mama's face!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!hahaha凸
凸(¬‿¬) ur bitch mama is sucking my cock now!!!!!why don't u stop me???hahahaah!u fucking pussy

>>69991744
I'm not saying that monarchies never end. I'm saying they're not meritocratic. Neither a military junta nor a public vote is as meritocratic as, for example, a business ceasing due to insolvency.

Monarchs deserve nothing but the guillotine.

The Dutch monarchy is pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dHs4W8P0QU

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>>69992110
Only commies, foreigners, Amsterdammers and other traitors don't like them.

>we lost something really important to our culture and identity
>see flag
>we

>>69990772
>Monarchs are Gods choosen
>The 18th century was the peak of human civilization

Truth!

>>69992110
> watch video of parade
> no commoners are allowed to watch

>>69992139
> commoners are all forced to stand on boats
> far far far away from anything

if they didn't have the parade, no one would notice

>>69992198
WUZ

>>69992257
The video is our state of the union.
The image is Kingsday (the Kings birthday).

>>69991944
But the Greek King especially fits with your example of the heir being a poor leader and losing it all.

None of the current Monarchies have really done anything that should cause them to lose their positions. All the former Monarchs who lost it have. Wilhelm II, Nickolas II, Louis XVI etc etc.

If that's not meritocracy I don't know what is.

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>>69988512
>>69989041
>>69989067
>>69990772
>>69991011
>>69991101
>>69992110
>>69992139
>>69992234
Good posts

There are far too many republicucks itt

>>69991634
>not being a communist

>>69992349
And what was he replaced by? A republic.

When an elected government falls, it's normally replaced by an elected government. Republicanism is the natural state. Constitutional republicanism is obviously the most tolerable.

>>69992634
>having ironic political beliefs

Monarchy is always good, even if individual monarchs can be lacking.

It's funny though how the most militant republican dipshits are always from republics, whereas people who actually live in monarchies tend to have positive opinions of monarchy.

>>69988512
>Monarcs

Absolutely disgusting, if there was something I thought I'd never see a burger say is that they want monarchies.

I'm really let down

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>>69989354
>I find it weird that Americans like them so much

"To disclaim the authority of a British parliament over us does by no means imply the dereliction of our allegiance to British monarchs.”

-t. Founding father Alexander "$10" Hamilton

He was one of many "royalist patriots" who hated Brit Parliment but swore lifelong allegiance to the Crown. The US presidency was set up as a non-hereditary monarchy, being given the power in reality, that monarchs only exercised in theory since the reign of William of Orange.

>>69992679
It's easy to romanticize monarchies when you haven't experienced on in hundreds of years.

> it's so cool to have a prince and princess
> shiny carriages and pretty dresses and funny uniforms

>>69992676
>It's funny though how the most militant republican dipshits are always from republics, whereas people who actually live in monarchies tend to have positive opinions of monarchy.
This sentence makes no logical sense. You're saying that republicans believing in republicanism isn't legitimate because they live in a republic, but that monarchists living in monarchies is proof of the merit of monarchism.

>>69992823
Yeah, I'm aware of Hamilton's sentiments. Are you aware that he was resoundingly outvoted when he tried to make the presidency an elective monarchy? One man making speeches and writing Federalist papers does not represent the views of every Founding Father.

If there would be a monarch here, I would personally start the rebellion and either die a horrible death, or drag that piece of shit to guillotine and watch it's head fly off.
It's a single most disgusting thing humanity invented to this day, and one of very few things I truly hate.

>>69992951

>>69992676 is right

The Troubles is too recent for you to have an objective point of view on the subject.

And any USA flag is just >American education

>>69992951
They did make it an elective monarchy though. The US President has the power that the founding fathers wanting King George III to exercise; far more power than any constitutional monarch.
Even as late as 1867 they commissioned a famous Vatican artist to paint the Apotheosis of Washington, literally his ascension as a deity cloaked in royal purple. Contemporary historian Mercy Otis Warren said best in 1788 when he claimed that the US Constitution was a "Republican form of government, founded on the principles of monarchy."

>>69993230
>The US President has the power that the founding fathers wanting King George III to exercise; far more power than any constitutional monarch.


> the president has the power to declare wars, but with approval of a giant congress
> he has the power to make laws, but congress and void them
> can't kill peasants
> can't imprison people for no reason

>>69988512
>Amerilard
>nostalgic for monarchs
You literally can't make this shit up.
If there's on thing the Bolsheviks did right,it was killing the monarchs and their families.Fuck them.
This world would have been a much better place had Napoleon won.
The Jacobins did nothing wrong.

>>69993204
>doesn't provide a single argument of his own
>cites someone else's logic-devoid argument
>dismisses all counter-argument based on people's flags

Please be trolling.

Also
>The Troubles
I'm from Clare, lad.

>>69993348

> the president has the power to declare wars, but with approval of a giant congress
George W Bush's invasion of Iraq
> he has the power to make laws, but congress and void them
Executive orders
> can't kill peasants
Extrajudicial drone strikes
> can't imprison people for no reason
Guantanamo Bay, war on drugs

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>>69988512
>Oh am I glad that God chose this perfect example of the human race to rule over us based upon no experience or knowledge,but blood.

>>69993348
> the president has the power to declare wars, but with approval of a giant congress
He has total control of the military and is only held in check by the budget. He can't declare war, but consider even a conflict as large as Vietnam, was nit a war that would require Congressional approval.
> he has the power to make laws, but congress and void them
And he has veto power himself, as well as a a pardon to overthrow the penal ruling of judges (no constitutional monarch has these powers in reality)
> can't kill peasants
Tell that to US citizen Anwar al-Awlaki and his 16 year old US citizen son, both executed by presidential authority. (Also, the monarchy isn't an episode if the Tudors, tbey can't kill people either)
>can't imprison people for no reason
The US (and guantanamo) are full of people (some US citizens) being imprisoned by executive authority without a trial.

The US president has far more power than any western constitutional monarch

>>69993580
>George W Bush's invasion of Iraq
This was supported in congress.
>executive orders
Intended to be for minor exigencies, and are also subject to judicial review, and can be struck down for unconstitutionality OR being unsupported by legislation. Executive orders also derive their power from legislation.
>Extrajudicial drone strikes
Yeah, killing an enemy combatant in Yemen who happens to be a US citizen is the same as having unchecked power over life and death.
>Guantanamo Bay
No US citizen was every knowingly held in Gitmo. The only time it happened, the guy was a Saudi who hadn't told them he was a citizen. It basically a POW camp.
>war on drugs
That's no "no reason." There are laws against drugs.

>>69988512
Nicolas was a cuck who wasn't able to actually rule the country. Low-energy manlet.
Alexander II was really god-tier Emperor.
Fuck polaks.

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>>69993972
:(

>>69994058
Fucking savages. They've had some good ideas but their methods...

>>69993956
>having unchecked power over life and death.
Name one monarch that had this.

>>69994189
Ivan the Terrible. Vlad the Impaler.

Regardless, I hadn't intended to imply that one had. You just focused on one hyperbolic half of one answer, because every other word I wrote had you stumped.

Every year i celebrate the day when tsar's family had been shooted.
Hey, europeans, why are you slaves? Why haven't you shoot your monarchs yet? It is easy: just bring them all into a basement and shoot them all till they all die.

>>69994309
Slavs don't count.

OK I was mistaken on iraq, but Korea never went through congress, nor did the civil war.

>Intended to be for minor exigencies
The Emancipation Proclamation was hardly a minor exigency

>There are laws against drugs.
For what reason is there the war on drugs other than to fuck over minorities and the poor?

Monarchy is double edge sword. Brazil has the old monarch family trying to get their grubby hands in power. They live lavish lives in Europe, I doubt they built a single hospital, private school, or a business to benefit the people here since.

At the same time mass democracy is no good either. Luckily you can fix that by not letting everyone vote.

>>69988512
Kings are just better than Presidents. Countries without Kings should be laughed at.

>>69995183
your country is comically evil tho, literally no one likes you

>>69995183

Saudi Arabia is the place people would look to for a virtuous kingdom. Lmao @ you right now.

>>69995255
If people like us I would think we were doing something wrong.

>>69988512
Yeah but ours are still here so...


Youre going to get a lot of butthurt republicans typical of the cancerous social democrats of the nordic countries incoming, especially from Germany and likely from ireland

>>69995275

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/29/saudi-princess-ordered-paris-interior-decorator-to-kiss-her-feet/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3818232/Saudi-princess-fled-Paris-instructing-bodyguard-kill-decorator-named-hitman-arrested.html

>>69995305
that just shows power

pfff

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>>69988512
Nope. I do want awakening of Lenin instead

>>69994969
>Korea
Very technical arguments at play there. Korea was authorised by the UN Security Council, and therefore some believe that Congress having voted to join the UN implied that it had also voted to legitimise its declarations of war. There's also the fact that Korea was a "police action", but I don't think that's an honest argument.

>civil war
How could a secessionist civil war ever be put to a legislative body? It's a criminal action, and stopping crime falls under the ambit of the executive branch.

>>69994969
>The Emancipation Proclamation
Fair point, although that only applied immediately to about a dozen states that were having rebellions, which is what gave the president his jurisdiction.

>>69994969
>For what reason is there the war on drugs other than to fuck over minorities and the poor?
The fact remains that it's not arbitrary detention, it's according to criminal legislation.

>>69995416
communists belong in graves

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>>69995473
>That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die

>>69995452
>>For what reason is there the war on drugs other than to fuck over minorities and the poor?
>The fact remains that it's not arbitrary detention, it's according to criminal legislation.
In that case it's OK to be thrown into a Thai prison for criticising the King since it's illegal according to criminal legislation.

>How could a secessionist civil war ever be put to a legislative body? It's a criminal action, and stopping crime falls under the ambit of the executive branch
Well the legality of it all was up for debate at the time so really it should have went to the supreme Court to decide, seeing as it was a constitutional question.

Anyways it's almost 1am so I'm off to bed.

>>69994969
>Emancipation Proclamation
The emancipation proclamation only freed slaves in the states that were rebelling. Confiscating property used whilst carrying out a crime is not unconstitutional. Quite the opposite. All slaves were freed through congressional power via the 13th amendment.

>Korea
Authorized by congress as part of their treaties establishing the United Nations. Since the UN had approved the conflict, the president was allowed to operate because congress had already explicitly ceded their power to the president for that specific situation.

>Civil War
Not a war with a sovereign power. The President does not need a congressional declaration of war to enforce the laws of the United States. That's his job.

>>69996244
>In that case it's OK to be thrown into a Thai prison for criticising the King since it's illegal according to criminal legislation.
So, are we talking about the extent of presidential powers in the US or the legitimacy of legislation? You keep shifting the goalposts.

>Well the legality of it all was up for debate at the time so really it should have went to the supreme Court to decide, seeing as it was a constitutional question.
You have no understanding of constitutional law. Was the North supposed to just pretend there wasn't a violent insurrection in the South while SCOTUS decided? Putting down a rebellion obviously falls under the executive ambit.

>>69996244
>Anyways it's almost 1am so I'm off to bed.
>I've painted myself into a corner, so now I'm going to bed.

>muh ethnicity
>monarchs are often foreighners
americans....

>>69996434
You know the way you voted Simeon in as PM after he'd been deposed as king? Do Bulgarians want the monarchy restored?

>>69996380
It's okay, you did your best, republibro.

We should have an elective monarchy rather

Just have people apply to be king/etc, then people vote

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>>69988512

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>>69988780
Lichtenstein. And royalty marrying black people isn't new, hell black people having their own upper class isn't new. However, marrying a foreign common woman is highly unusual.

Also it wasn't the Prince himself. It was his second son.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Angela_of_Liechtenstein

>>69996962
That's basically a presidency.

>>69997252
no

we still have prime minister as normal

>>69997271
A president isn't the same thing as a prime minister. Prime ministers are more like our Speaker of the House. Many countries have both a prime minister and a president.

>>69997336
but it's not like a presidency because the king has only ceremonial roles

No, they were tyrants.

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ROMANOV A EY
ROMANOV A -NOV A EY

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Blood for the blood God!

>>69988512
>we lost
>our culture and identity
>our countries, our ethnicities
I knew it will be a burger flag
>missing H*bsburgs
tip top kek

>>69996614
No, we thought he could be a good politician, we had blind love for westerners, we have semi blind love for them now.

>>69988512
Latvian farmers

>>69988512
I immediately knew what flag would the OP be before even clicking on it in the catalog.

>>69988512
European monarchy belongs to the ancient order. People got rid of their monarchs because they were arbitrary and backwards, racketing nation's wealth to drink coffee in golden mugs and pay big armies and police to ensure repression.

>>69997542
Great post

>>69989527
The rebellion in America was fought in the 1700s, so excuse me if I doubt what I'm sure was a extremely accurate post

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>>69989146
>tfw no slag princess

JUST

>>69997786
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>>69997786
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