19th century Euro-block

Interesting question 2bh

Idk

>euro-block
kek

>>69913422
pros
>in city center, everything is near
>ceiling is about 3m, compares to 2.5m of the new buildings, more comfy
>most of the time you have a real wooden parquet
>market price only up with time
>you can creep on cutie neighbor on opposite building

cons
>noise is at maximum, from outside, from upstairs (wooden structure floor), when neighbors go in and out, you can hear them in the hallway
>if it's not a luxury building, stairs are narrow and you may have a tiny elevator which can fit 2 europeans or 1 american
>tax is extremely expensive
>very hard to find a parking place if you own a car
>you might smell some piss at the front door on saturday morning
>you might get creeped on from weird grandma

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>>69913422
They are very spacious, good locations and have good public transport links

I lived in one in St Petersburg and in one here. Thick walls, location and really high ceilings were the only good parts about both of them (well also the rent in both cases but that's just my luck). Shitty old communications, old school glass panes instead of plexiglass windows and those LONG ASS FUCKING CLIMBS UP THE STAIR were no fun

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>>69913877
>>69913899
Thanks friends.

>>69913422
pretty good if it's in a good shape but you pay shitload for heating because the rooms are almost 3m high

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>>69913877
>can fit 2 europeans or 1 american
kek

>>69913422
I used to live in an art-deco block. It was good tbqh: I had the comfiness and aesthetics that older buildings provide, yet the luxury of modernity.

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>>69913996
>>69914047
>>69914092
Thanks buds.

>>69914011
additional
>most of the time you have gaz line but to heat the apartment is by individual heater, since the ceiling is high, the place is always cold
>exterior walls are about 50cm thick, but windows are not very large, it's pretty grimy inside
>no or small balcony, you can only pop you head out for a smoke
>some big apartments are workplaces and offices, you might see a random person in the hallway (which I don't like)
>in summer, concrete keeps the heat until midnight, it's really hot and you cannot install an air conditioner because you cannot put anything outside the facade (just a mobile unit with tubes)

>>69914308
>>in summer, concrete keeps the heat until midnight, it's really hot and you cannot install an air conditioner because you cannot put anything outside the facade (just a mobile unit with tubes)

Interesting. Is this because of municipal bylaws?

>>69913422
Terrible, raze them all and build real buildings.

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>>69914474
They look like shit to.

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>>69914497
Sweden should be nuked.

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Most of them are now in historical city centres and have been entirely renovated. They have really high ceilings which is comfy and are generally pleasant to live in.
Pic rel, you can see my flat from there.

>>69914558
Looks butifel.

>>69914527
I kno.

>>69913877
>market price only up with time
Thats what they want you to think

>>69914379
yes,
if the windows get old, you can install new ones with exactly same aspect, color, two panels, etc.

when the facades get dirty or old, the co property will refresh it and you'd have to pay high amount of money

you own the space 'inside' you apartment, not the separation walls or building structure,

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can I get an apartment like the one from Le Samurai?

>square corners

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>>69914379
dont know about france but here the process of modernizing these buildings, reducing CO2 and installing AC is called Entstuckung

pic related is how such an estate looks after being entstuckt

>>69914777
>pic related is how such an estate looks after being entstuckt
The horror. I'm pretty sure they could have left the facade. Here people tend to only modernise the interiors of 19th century buildings or houses.

>>69914379
actually most euro buildings do not have air conditioning
this is mainly a canadian/US thing

>>69913422
Heating those things is a nightmare due to high ceiling, thick brick walls without proper insulation and often shitty wooden windows. You either have elctric radiators and your bill is thorugh the roof or you still have the original fireplace and you get to have 19th century fun of carrying coal and firewood from the basement.I've moved to a commieblock few years ago and would NEVER EVER live in "euroblock" again

>>69914777
You can renovate and make buildings more energy efficient but if they are in historical neighbourhoods or considered as historic buildings/monuments you can't change the way they look.

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Expensive as fuck

>>69913422
cold and noisy

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I live very close to pic related. It's pretty good. Interior of the building is beautiful, very high ceiling, spacious, huge windows. They almost always have a "gardien" (not sure how to translate it, they're basically a janitor, but they also bring you the mail, or can water you plants when you're not here, for example).

They have some cons though. Usually there is only a tiny elevator, they're expensive as fuck to rent (I couldn't pay the rent on my own), and expensive to heat.

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>>69914929
Based on photos, I noticed in Russia they tend to cover their buildings with split air conditioners (the type in pic) like in east Asia. I've seen this type retrofitted on old buildings.

>>69914777
They don't put back on the facade?

>>69914978
I live on a house like that. Coolish in summer with those high ceilings, and freezing in winter. The fireplace is also terrible because it wasn't designed properly. If anything it sucks warm air from other rooms and makes cold air get in through every door and window crack

>>69913422
Depends on the quality. It's mostly shit when they are on the edge of the town.

>>69914777
>pic related is how such an estate looks after being entstuckt

What the fuck is wrong with Germans. A ton of your historical buildings were destroyed during the war, and now you want to destroy even more?

You would be crucified for even suggesting this here.

>>69915076
>I've seen this type retrofitted on old buildings.
*old buildings (19th century) in Canada.

>>69915096
The worst is in some non renovated buildings where there's only one bathroom on the floor and you have to share it with other families, thankfully I never lived that nightmare but I had a friend who lived in such place

>>69915222
>The worst is in some non renovated buildings where there's only one bathroom on the floor and you have to share it with other families, thankfully I never lived that nightmare but I had a friend who lived in such place
Weird.

>>69915247
That's 19th century german efficiency for you I guess

>>69915304
>That's 19th century german efficiency for you I guess
What does it have to do with Germany?

>>69915328
That it was a german build building with german engineering, duh

>>69915222
These old buildings have all been upgraded to modern standards of comfort here. It doesn't have anything to do with the buildings but more with your housing regulations.

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Here's how Haussmanian buildings looks inside.

I have never seen anyone ever make a fire inside those tiny fireplaces. They make nice shelves and places to hide stuff, I guess.

>>69913422
They're overrated.

The only thing they've got going for them is their high ceilings (I'm almost 2m tall). Some buildings built today are only 2.35m per story which is too fucking low for anyone taller than 1.90m
It's usually expensive to live in them, unless they offer a standard of living from the time when they were built.

I'd rather live in a modern building, desu.

Comfy af.

Airy, spacious, and generally just really nice and soothing experience.

>noisy

Only if you're on a lower level maybe. On higher levels it's a very nice, subtle ambiance of the city.

Many of the Altbau buildings here are renovated and even have elevators. I don't think Entstuckung happens anymore tbph.

>>69915366
And Poles didn't do shit with those buildings for 70 years since they got them.

>>69915368
Nah he was living in poorfag part of town with building that didn't have any major work on them done since they were build

>>69914777
Fucking Germs do everything they can to destroy their culture. My country is cucked but at least we respect historical architecture (for now)

>>69915440
My flat has two fireplaces and I've never used them. I'd probably burn the entire building if I tried to use them since the chimneys are probably full of dust and soot. i don't think it's even allowed to make a fire in there any more.

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>tfw no comfy euroblock apartment

>>69915568
Chimeys have to be cleared twice a year afaik

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And here's how the top floor might look. It's where the servants used to live, but it's usually been renovated into comfy apartments.

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>>69915570

>>69914777
top kek.... germans...

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The elevator is usually really tiny.

>>69913899
Went to budapest years ago and really fallef in love with this scenery, would be nice to live in one of them
>>69914558
>>69915038
>you will never be a white french living in the downtown of a first world city
Jelly, but hust buy more blankets when is cold
>>69914777
What a waste of triple sevens

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>>69915641
Top floors don't look like that they usually have a low ceiling since they are under the roof. They are also a nightmare in summer if they don't have AC which they often don't.

>>69915463
I live on the ground floor right next to tram station. You get used to it.

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>>69915919
Don't be this stupid Hans.....

>>69915919
>let's destroy everything our people built instead of renovating it since it's easier, cheaper and oh so convenient

I wouldn't expect more from a German.
Modern blocks have nothing a renovated 19th century one hasn't.

interior height is ridiculous like 3-3.5 m so heating it up costs quite a lot

>>69915919
>having no respect for historic buildings
You disgust me Heinrich

>>69915366
What city.

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>>69915097
Nearly every building in Dutch city centers (except Rotterdam) are pre-1800, so you will only find those blocks at the edge of the town. Some are built for the rich and others for the poor. (Pic) are some blocks in my father's old neighbourhood.

>>69913877
In Westminster the tax is really low, noise minimal if you're on the rear side of a property (aside from foxes screaming), add vomit and diarrhea to piss and then pretty much true. But yeah the peeping Tom potential is right in your face, that's no overstatement.

they're comfy af, but the entstuckungsjude is working hard on getting rid of them

>>69916155
Opole

>>69916193
Fuck off Heinrich

>>69916219
*Oppeln

>>69913422
They're nothing like commie blocks except that you sometimes hear your neighbours.
>>69915172
"Entstuckung" was pushed by jews m8
Not even shitposting

>>69916253
Go away wanna be nazi non country, Trianon was a crime and you shouldn't exist

>>69916219
>>69916253
*Opel

>>69916227
fuck off marie-lena

The standard of living may vary a lot. It depends if it was an apartment house for rich and higher class or poor workers tenement house. Of course none of them is really suitable for today's living. They have unnecesarry large rooms on one hand and small and dark kitchens and bathrooms on the other.

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>>69915919
Get the fuck out of here, Corbu', you autist.

>>69916335
wir lieben autos

>>69913996
>plexiglass windows
do euros really have plastic windows?

>>69916378
When I stayed in praha this was true. In fact the bathroom was in the centre of the apartment and had glass brick walls all over from floor to ceiling.

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>>69916266
>"Entstuckung" was pushed by jews m8

I'm not even slightly surprised.

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>>69916469
Americans don't ? Shieeet feel free to join 21st century anytime

>>69916469
you don't?
dafuq

>>69916469
whut americans dont?!

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>>69915814
We actually have more than a few in Mexico City that are nicely renovated, they've become something of a trend ever since Slim's renovation of the centro historico, expensive as fuck but not as bad as the historic art deco buildings in the city (waiting lists are not as exclusive also) a few do border some unsavory areas tho, especially the larger ones. in which middle class hipsters can actually afford rent.

>>69914777
this is a joke right? left one has to be newly built

>>69916538
He probably need a house looking like a bunker to shield himself of the gangs.

>>69916784
It probably is, "Entstuckung" was more of a Weimar Republic thing. Nazis did it too but they just replaced it with their own stuff. Still despicable but slightly less ugly than getting rid of Stuck entirely.

>>69916784
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entstuckung
>Entstuckte Fassade und Fassade im Originalzustand in Berlin-Prenzlauer Berg

DER ENTSTUCKUNGSJUDE

>>69916538
>>69916610
>>69916665
Yeah, never heard of using plexiglass for windows on buildings. Most if not all are glass as far as I'm aware. Is there a benefit of using plexiglass?

D E R E N T S T U C K U N G S J U D E

>>69917468
>its more durable so kids won't break it as easly while playing ball
>better noise cancelling
>better at keeping heat inside
>you can open them in 3 ways which allows you to control room temp better

>>69913422
Very spacious, high ceilings, and long walks up the stairs

>>69914777
I HATE YOU SO MUCH GERMANY

>>69913422
quite nice. in the literal centre. surrounded by other oldish buildings and churches and of course old town. nice parks around in all directions. the apartments are quite big for their time. mine was 160m~2. most have two stairways with really steep steps. the stairways are nicely decorated. floors are from real wood. i had about 30cm wide oak parquet. high ceilings. 3.1 meters. makes visiting someone in a commieblock feel a bit claustrophobic. aside from gas heating usually there's at least one/two fireplaces and 'warm walls'. old ladies go to dry laundry in the attic lol. it's not uncommon to have some sort of office / shop on the ground floor or in the cellar (some people have fitted in saunas too)

>>69913877
They are often cold as fuck as well.

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>>69913422
RAZE THESE SHIT BLOCKS DOWN

>>69913422
>go to hotel in london looking p. similar to OP's pic
>"oh sweet i've never been in a building like this before"
>floors are actually remodeled to have 6 rooms where there used to be 2
>shit modern plastic walls
>probably small even for the Japs sleeping next door

>>69922104
wtf

>>69913422
looks comfy to me.

>>69916945
Nach den Befürchtungen mancher Architekten und Denkmalpfleger könnte das Thema „Entstuckung“ in den kommenden Jahren wieder relevanter werden. Das am 28. September 2010 beschlossene Energiesparkonzept der deutschen Bundesregierung sieht vor, den CO2-Ausstoß des gesamten Baubestandes in Deutschland um 80 Prozent zu senken. Ein ungeplanter Nebeneffekt dieser Maßnahmen könnte eine weitgehende Entstuckung fast aller Altbauten sein, sofern diese nicht unter Denkmalschutz stehen.[2][3]

Deutschland
pls stop
you're scaring me

>>69913422
honestly living in a block like this is my dream

>>69916189
>in westminster...
kys richboy jf namefag

>>69914092
send us a google street screen cap plz

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>mfw we will never build aesthetically pleasing residential buildings again because random concrete blocks are cheaper

>>69916379
Le Corbusier did nothing wrong.

>>69913899
is this really Budapest? damn
time to call the liberty bombers, I guess, we have to reset Sofia

>>69925518
Damn that pic
for a representation of despair the room sure is clean

>>69925326
I'm not rich though, calm your weave