So Commiefornia legalized marijuana for recreational use. Is

>>69847965
why would you ask this question here instead of googling it?

>>69847992
Sp the rest of us can get mad jelly that americans can freely blaze it while even minor possession of cannabis will literally ruin your life eternally in nordics.

>>69847992
Theres nothing to find on Google, they just voted 2 months ago.

>>69847992
Why didn't you look at his flag instead of asking this?

>>69847965
shit it might as well be legal. all you have to do is walk around and look for a black dude who's standing on a corner and he'll probably be like LOUD LOUD GOT DAT LOUD.

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>>69847992
>>69848041
>all this shitposting to cover the fact they are also interested

>>69848064
>buying anything from black people

lmao

>>69848064
>shit it might as well be legal.
I want to know how its different now, cigarette companies had no jurisdiction on the streets

>>69848071
Why, nobody wants to go to your shitty country
oh tah irnoy

It's legal to smoke but stores can't sell it yet

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>>69848121
>nobody wants to go to your shitty country
That doesn't mean people are interested in how the legalities of recreational marijuana.

>>69848117
well I'd imagine there will be dispensaries opening up.

>>69848138
>but stores can't sell it yet
Will they be able to at any point? Or did the vote in november not cover that?

>>69848169
>smoking devil's lettuce
by any chance are you either white or ebonic?

>>69848198
Yes they will be able to, but I don't think it goes into effect until next year or something

>>69848214
you're just mad the cartels only have mids

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>>69848214
>he thinks you have to smoke to be interested in the legalities of legalized marijuana

dude

>>69847965
Fucking finally, when are you faggots going to legalize all the other drugs and in all the states?

>>69848268
eh?

>>69848229
>but I don't think it goes into effect until next year or something
Any sauce on this?

I really want to know what cigarette companies are going to do.

>>69848138
There was some medical dispensaries getting caught selling it already, but really nobody cares.

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>>69848288
Trump is going to legalize marijuana across the US. Everything else you will still need a pharmacist for.

>>69848214
Let people harm themselves if they want, we shouldn't have to die for a couple of worthless junkies in the US. It is better that those degenerates legalize drugs since they consume them anyway. Fucking drug cartels would be less powerful, have less influence, etc., which is what matters.

>>69848298
http://www.sacbee.com/news/state/california/california-weed/article113420578.html

>Q: When – and where – will people be able to buy recreational marijuana?

>A: Stores selling non-medical marijuana can open on or before Jan. 1, 2018, as a state program for retail licenses is implemented. Marijuana dispensaries can begin applying for temporary state licenses for recreational marijuana next year, but over-the-counter pot sales aren’t expected until next summer.

>>69848329
Yeah 2bh weed was already de-facto legal in major cities. I've smoked weed in public with cops around and they didn't care at all, but I'm a nice looking white guy.

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>>69848357
>Amerikkka is responsible for Mexico's corruption

>>69848390
Thanks anon, I'll give this a read.

>>69848396
No, but you sure fuel cartels billions of dollars from an industry that shouln't have to be in the black market, and thus, the cartels, instead of companies with production standarts and who pay taxes. Your war on drugs is fucking stupid and that is a fact.

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>>69848396
>Mexico is responsible for America's drug problem

>>69848390
>Yeah 2bh weed was already de-facto legal in major cities. I've smoked weed in public with cops around and they didn't care at all, but I'm a nice looking white guy.

Live in orange county so the cops have nothing better to do than get weird about it, they probably wouldn't bother with someone smoking a joint, but they would bust dispensaries selling early.

I'm sure in LA where the cops have to deal with real problems, they don't do anything about stores selling at all.

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>>69848432
>you sure fuel cartels billions of dollars from an industry that shouln't have to be in the black market
You're right, it shouldnt be a black market. Tell Mexicans that.

>>69848434
>America's drug 'problem' makes Mexicans corrupt

>>69848484
Damn, nice numbers.

Here in MI, after marijuana became medicinal; the quality skyrocketed and the price plummeted. It was great.

>>69848288
That's not going to happen for awhile. Cartels will just up production of hard drugs, we've already seen them increase heroine trafficking in Washington and Colorado where it's already been legal for awhile.

People get really sanctimonious about drugs, I'd opt for a policy like Portugal's, but this country has protestant puritan values.

>>69848484
in chicago ive been busted twice by the CPD for smoking in public lol. good old college days lol.

they basically told me to fuck off. they never even fined me. it's all about how you present yourself in my opinion.

>>69848563
Don't smoke any myself, just glad faggots will finally stop complaining about it.

>>69848515
It is not our fault that drugs are in the black market, we are not the primary consumers by a long shot, and we didn’t start with the puritan message that banned drugs worldwide. You are. Even if we legalize them (like we should) it wouldn't stop 10% of their income.

And again, nobody is saying that you makes us corrupt, we are saying that you are giving billions of dollars to already corrupt pepople. Doesn't seem like a good plan, does it?

>>69848567
That's why I said all drugs. But marijuana is an ok start.

>>69848597
>just glad faggots will finally stop complaining about it.
Im surprised they managed it. I wasn't expecting it.

>>69848613
>It is not our fault that drugs are in the black market
Yes it is. Mexicans don't have to be involved, Canadians aren't. They share a border with the US also.

>nobody is saying that you makes us corrupt, we are saying that you are giving billions of dollars to already corrupt pepople.
So you're admitting that I'm right. Previously corrupted Mexicans are continuing corrupted practices.

>>69848700
those dirty leafs are always pushing drugs into our cunt. or americans go over there and get drugs from them and bring them back.

>>69848700
other anon btw
>Previously corrupted Mexicans are continuing corrupted practices.
yup basically
>Yes it is. Mexicans don't have to be involved, Canadians aren't. They share a border with the US also.
Supply and demand baby

>>69848700
Try to grow weed and coke in fucking Canada and their weather, you motherfucker. We don't even grow it ourselves, Colombians, Bolivians, and Peruvians do, and we are in the fucking middle. We are involved even if we don't want to.

>So you're admitting that I'm right
I'm saying that you are being fucking idiots with the war on drugs, because it is not working, and it needs to fucking stop because thanks to it, billions of dollars go in the hands of criminals.

>>69848781
it's not like we can just legalize shit. DEA makes profit, private prisons make profit, pharma makes profit. And guess what? They all have a strangle hold on our government. Shit is absolutely fucked.

>>69848777
>Supply and demand baby
Doesn't mean people have to resort to corruption.

>>69848781
>We are involved even if we don't want to.
It would be easy to stop the traffic, but corrupted Mexicans officials wont.

>it needs to fucking stop because thanks to it, billions of dollars go in the hands of criminals.
No, billions of dollars go into the hands of criminals because they are criminals who do things that are against the law.

>>69848812
>They all have a strangle hold on our government
But wasn't Trump going to drain the swamp?

>>69848869
well that's still up in the air. we're going to have to see, because right now he's really only focused on repealing obama care.

>>69848288
Not so fast El Cucko

>>69848859
>It would be easy to stop the traffic, but corrupted Mexicans officials wont.
yeah outfear the fact of seeing your family being bathed in acid must be easy as fuck

>>69848859
>It would be easy to stop the traffic
>Mexicans officials wont.

We have been at fucking war for 10 years thanks to it, you dense piece of shit. Duterte levels of war are a fucking joke compared to us.

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2016/05/mexican-military-most-efficient-killers.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/27/world/americas/mexican-militarys-high-kill-rate-raises-human-rights-fears.html?_r=0

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Drug_War

Almost all of the drug cartel leaders have either been captured or killed.

You can't stop drug trafficking unless you legilize drugs, because: a) it is a multibillion dollar industry that makes more money than the entire GDP of 176 countries, b) those billions of dollars can be used in extortion here and in the US especially when they use the "plata o plomo" tactic, c) they don't have to pay taxes, they can exploit their "workers" all they want, they don't even have to pay them, and they don't have to make sure their produce meets any standards since it is not regulated, d) the price of drugs is extremely high thanks to their status as illegal and they can be produced incredibly cheaply, e) with everything above taken into account, they can lose up to 99% of their produce to the police/military, and with that remaining 1% of the produce they would still make 100% in profit, which they will later use to bribe people; and finally, f) the border between us is huge, so even if your goal is to stop 100% of their produce, it would be extremely costly to patrol 24/7 the entire border plus coastlines in the Atlantic and the Pacific (let alone impossible), and you would still fail spectacularly since they use submarines, planes, catapults, tunnels, random people crossing the border, cargo ships, and every other single way you could imagine

The logistics behind such a thing are impractical, unlikely to happen and incredibly costly

And if it is so easy to stop, why haven't YOU stopped it on your side of the border?

>>69849002
>seeing your family being bathed in acid
OOOORRR

Just legalize marijuana in Mexico.

>>69849043
>why haven't YOU stopped it on your side of the border?
You're in a thread about legalized marijuana in California. Its also legal in OR, WA, CO, Maine etc etc.

Tell me again steps taken by Mexico to help? Oh thats right, corrupt Mexicans officials stop all attempts are solving the problem.

>>69848859
It is prohibition all over again, so why are you playing stupid?

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>>69849108
>so why are you playing stupid?
Why are you playing stupid?

You're blaming the US and Bolivia, Nicaragua and Colombia for using your country as a pathway for drugs.

Maybe its not all the countries below you and above you that are the problem.

>>69849105
>Just legalize marijuana in Mexico.
we don't use drugs in here, that won't change shit

>>69849105
>Tell me again steps taken by Mexico to help? Oh thats right, corrupt Mexicans officials stop all attempts are solving the problem.

I already told you, you fucking idiot. We are at war, we are killing them, we have been killing them for the last 10 years, all the leaders are already dead or in jail. But the war can't be win until YOU legilize all drugs. Period.

>Just legalize marijuana in Mexico.

We should, but it won't solve the biggest problem: You.

>>69849144
The problem is prohibition. That is what sets everything else in motion.

>You're blaming the US and Bolivia, Nicaragua and Colombia for using your country as a pathway for drugs.

I am stating facts on how the drug trafficking business works. You are playing stupid.

>>69848273
weed

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>>69849158

>>69849158
>we don't use drugs in here
You just traffic them.

>>69849165
>but it won't solve the biggest problem: You.
You havent really made a connection yet.

Yes, theres a prohibited market in the US.... But why are Mexicans trafficking it?

>>69849202
>The problem is prohibition. That is what sets everything else in motion.
And who is trafficking it? See above.

When alcohol was prohibited, Italians/Americans created and sold it and distributed it illegally. So that was on them.


Still havent accounted for Mexico's interest in illegal substances.

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>mexico doesn't legalize federally
>america doesn't legalize federally
>canada does legalize federally

>mfw I supply all the weed in north america

>>69849295
How long has he been in office? And where is the weed? Its not happening, hes not cool at all.

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>>69849246
>But why are Mexicans trafficking it?
Because the market doesn't magically disappear if we pretend it is not there. You are the biggest market on sheer population numbers alone. And production happens with or without us in South America. I wonder what is between the 2.

>Mexico's interest in illegal substances.
Except we really don't consume it.

>>69849311
Breaking all international agreements and legislating the safe use of weed doesnt happen overnight when he also has a country to run. Its not like weed is his number one priority

>>69849311
14 months?

it's being timed to be on 4/20

>>69849328
cocaine = marijuana
yes

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>>69849243

>>69849328
>Because the market doesn't magically disappear if we pretend it is not there.
But you still haven't represented why Mexicans are aiding the traffic. You've established who the drugs are going to but you havent established by Mexico serves the cocktail.

Again, why aren't Canadians doing what Mexico is doing? Why did mostly Italians and Americans participate in illegal alcohol distribution?

>>69849328
amount here seems off

at least 5% would do coke if offerred
just not that many people want to buy it, regional shortages

>>69849415
>be papuan
>smoke weed everyday
>get munchies
>practice cannibalism

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>>69849311
>>69849366


You need to keep in mind 3 things

a) Liberals never promised to legalize close to election
b) it's not trudeau's biggest priority and his only reasons are basically 'protect da chilluns'
c) he so far has made an announcement on 4/20, and said we will be legalization this spring (read: 4/20 DUDEHAHALMAOWEEDNUMBERSAHAHHAPOOPDICK69420)


I dont even care at this point. I'm growing enough weed to have extra to share with my friends and family, and I can basically go down the street and buy anything i need. before this, I was ordering online. It's basically been legal to me for years.

Call me when a politician grows a pair and calls to end the war on drugs and treat is like the public health and liberty issue it is

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>>69849385
>mfw when the 420 memelord himself is my PM
Dank af yo

>>69849429
>Again, why aren't Canadians doing what Mexico is doing?
where would we be getting coke from, it's a geographic supply chain, same reason why mexico doesn't make maple syrup
>Why did mostly Italians and Americans participate in illegal alcohol distribution?
Italian mob is a farce created by the jews to cover up their prevalence in crime

>>69849387
I am talking about all of them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_prevalence_of_opiates_use

>>69849415
Because it is in the middle of the way, get it through your thick skull. Mexico, as a country, has been fighting a literal war in order to stop it, Mexicans as a whole are trying to stop it. Americans are still the ones selling it inside America.

Why are Americans selling illegal drugs inside America? Why are Americans buying illegal drugs from criminals inside America?

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>>69849514
>where would we be getting coke from
How about marijuana?

How about human trafficking? Comes through Mexico, more lucrative than drugs also.

>>69849506
>trudeau holds ceremony to mark legalization
>holds up a joint and lighter
>mister joint
>YOU'RE FIRED!

>>69849537
meant to quote this >>69849429

>>69849541
Why are you buying humans?

Why are Americans selling illegal drugs inside America? Why are Americans buying illegal drugs from criminals inside America?

Americans are the masters of playing stupid.

>>69847965
>low quality cannabis
That doesn't even look like bud. Even the shittiest weed I've ever bought at least looked like weed.

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>>69849613
>Americans are the masters of playing stupid.
>playing

>>69849554
>>69849580
>>69849613
>being this butthurt
Listen, I'm sorry that Mexico is corrupted but its not because there is a market available for substance X.

Its because a priest class is exploiting you. Period.

>>69849635
let's be clear. we don't fucking play shit.

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>>69848024
Very sad what they do to you guys. In Sweden some old guy with cancer was treating his pain with weed and it got him like 20 years in prison, yet immigrants frequently get a few months community service for rape.

For countries that claim to be so progressive and forward-thinking, you'd think marijuana would at the very least be decriminalized.

Why is that? What is it about Nordic society that is so strongly anti-drug?

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>>69849744
Europe doesnt even have cool drugs.

>>69849654
We are not talking about corruption in Mexico, I am not blaming you for it. Mexico is corrupt, yes, get over it.

Because it that is your point, then you are a bunch of fucking drug addicts buying and willfully giving billions of dollars to those very same corrupt people.

Those billions of dollars give an incredible amount of power to criminals. Of course I am butthurt about it, because while we have thousands of deaths in our streets thanks to a fucking war that shouldn’t exist, a war that started thanks to your puritanism. Private prisons are laughing in your face and you still prefer to argue with me instead of admitting the FACT that the war on drugs is a failure that is making everything worse for both your country and mine. Stop being a dindu fuck.

>>69849780
I did a lot of drugs in Germany, Netherlands, and Denmark. Very high quality but also expensive as fuck.
Although I've heard that the Scandinavian countries have lower quality weed.

>>69848024
Dont exaggerate, you only get a ticket for growing a small patch.
If you go full druglord mode and get busted it's another thing.

>>69849780

Europe is good if you're a fucking retard or a college student rave goer

North America has the best darknet markets in the world and Canada has plenty of fantastic research chemicals available legally online (not to mention it's piss easy to order weed online here too and basically impossible to get caught)

>>69849799
>you are a bunch of fucking drug addicts buying and willfully giving billions of dollars to those very same corrupt people.
>Those billions of dollars give an incredible amount of power to criminals
>Stop being a dindu fuck.
So when is Mexico going to legalize marijuana?

When is Mexico going to build a wall on the US border to fault drug movement?

What exactly is Mexico doing to stop drugs income to America besides treat its citizens like shit?

>>69849861
Dude they're a third world shithole, they don't have any money to police like we or build a wall lmao.

>>69849855
research chemicals? like what? 2c-b? 25i? If that's the case then I'm moving to canda.

>>69849803
Quality depends on whom you get it from.

>>69847965
Stop spamming /int/ with this shit.
4chan needs a /drugs/ board

>>69849973
>he doesn't know about 420chan

>>69849902
>they don't have any money to police like we or build a wall lmao.
They vitriolically opposed the wall.

>>69848064
Or you could get weed like a normal person and spend $40 a year for a recommendation.

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>>69849861
Really makes neurons vibrate.

>>69849861
>So when is Mexico going to legalize marijuana?
I don't know, our idiot president already complained about drugs in the UN, saying that everyone should legalize them. And we are in the process of legalizing it for medical use, so I hope soon. But what part of "it wouldn't solve a thing because we don't really consume any types of drugs" you don't understand?

>When is Mexico going to build a wall on the US border to fault drug movement?
Never. And that stupid shit wouldn't work either. Read >>69849043 again
>it would be extremely costly to patrol 24/7 the entire border plus coastlines in the Atlantic and the Pacific (let alone impossible), and you would still fail spectacularly since they use submarines, planes, catapults, tunnels, random people crossing the border, cargo ships, and every other single way you could imagine

>What exactly is Mexico doing to stop drugs income to America besides treat its citizens like shit?

A literal war, arresting all the drug trafficking leaders, burning tons of drugs every week, seize billions of dollars, weapons, houses, etc., are you fucking blind, or stupid? Do I need to repeat everything to you?
This is what gets me even more mad, because we are paying with our fucking blood to stop them from entering your fucking country, and we can’t win until someone In your senate gives a shit and stops your puritan policy.

>>69849973
too few anime pics for you?

>>69850000
a) the wall is already there
b) it is fucking useless

So, according to you, everything is a problem: Mexicans, Italians, the market doesn't exist, etc.

But the War on Drugs is ok? That is what you are trying to say? That the War on Drugs is fine?

>>69850060
>When is Mexico going to build a wall on the US border to fault drug movement?
>Never. And that stupid shit wouldn't work either
>What exactly is Mexico doing to stop drugs
>A literal war
>we are paying with our fucking blood to stop them from entering your fucking country
>your puritan policy.
Shut up you stupid Aztecan, you'd rather have a war instead of trying a different policy (wall).

Now you realize that an open market doesn't mean shit.

>>69849910

1P-LSD and 4-Acetoxy-DMT are two big ones. Both are easy to get online, through clearnet sites, normally paid with interact e-transfer and shipped through Canada Post (who have the security skills of a tree fort of third graders)

1P-LSD is an analogue of LSD and indistinguishable besides a difference in weight

4-Acetoxy-DMT/Psilacetin is indistinguishable from psilocin (4-HO-DMT), essentially legal psilocybin mushrooms in a dense powder

There are tonnes of additional analogues with their own quirks and differences, some people actually prefer them to their parent drug

2c-b is illegal here though. Our analogue act is retarded in tradition with Canadian law, and essentially any analogue that isn't specifically mentioned as illegal (2c-b is) and isn't an analogue of Methamphetmine or PCP is legal

Kratom is also still legal, weed can be ordered online with no realistic risk

>>69847965
DUUUUUUUUUUUDE WEEEEEED LMAO HAHAHAHAH HOOOOLY SHIIIIT DUDE I AM SOOOOOOOOOO FUUUUUUUCKIN HIGH RIGHT NOW DUUUUUUUUUUUDE LISTEN HAHA DUDE *rips bong* DUDE LISTEN TO THIS OKAY DUDE LISTEN: WEED! HAHA WEEED DUDE WEEED LMAOOOO

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>>69850146
It will be there soon.

>So, according to you, everything is a problem:
No, its legalized here.

You're the one outward blaming everything on the US, Colombia, etc.

>>69848214
>Devil's lettuce

I'm gonna start calling it that now.

>>69850163
They only need to be able to deliver 1% of their produce inside the US to make profit, you numbskull cunt. The wall would do shit, and there is already a fucking wall in there, o did you forget about what happened after 9/11 and you became paranoid? I am sure you have seen the "Southern Mexican Wall with Guatemala", that is in fact our border with you. Oh, that wall is fucking useless.

>>69850214
I am talking about all drugs.

>>69849669

Those are Turks? Nice, I always thought they were Indian. good post, brother.

>>69850175
2bh jesus I can't believe that's all legal.

You think 1P-LSD is just like real acid? is it more harmful?

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>>69850258
>I am talking about all drugs.
Oh are you talking about human trafficking too?

If theres no wall, why do Mexican's oppose it being built? Why is the first response of these problems warfare?

Build the wall, legalize marijuana or stfu.

>>69850352
I don't care that a wall is being built, as long as you pay for your useless projects. If you want to waste YOUR money on stupid things, I am all for it.

We don't use marijuana >>69849415

And it doesn't help that you are the ones buying all those people. Why are you buying people?

>>69850420
Mexicans are trafficking people to the US illegally. No one is buying you people or wants more people here.

>We don't use marijuana
I didn't say you did. Why do you keep dodging the fact that Mexico hasn't done anything but wage war on its citizens and not legalize marijuana and oppose a wall to stop flow?

>>69850463
Human trafficking refers to people being abducted and sold into slavery, not about immigration. You can't be this stupid, please.

>Why do you keep dodging the fact that Mexico hasn't done anything but wage war on its citizen

>>69850060
our idiot president already complained about drugs in the UN, saying that everyone should legalize them. And we are in the process of legalizing it for medical use, so I hope soon.

Is it enough? No.

If you want to end this argument, that you started >>69848396 with a straw man, answer me this: Is the war on drugs OK?

Don't shift the conversation, don't reply to me with other stupid shit. Is the war on drugs OK or is it stupid?

>>69850311

I can vouch for both. Indistinguishable. 1P-LSD does differ in potency though because it's literally LSD with a propionyl group stuck onto it, so 100µg of 1P-LSD = 85µg LSD.

As for safety, we don't know. The reason they're legal is because they're sold not to be used for human consumption. At some point, every popular synthesized drug was a research chemical. We won't know the long term effects for long since some of these drugs have only been in circulation for 5 years, but we know short term, and with good chemistry knowledge, that they don't cause any immediate noticeable harm, and probably won't considering most psychedelics are physically safe long term to take

>>69850550
>Human trafficking refers to people being abducted and sold into slavery, not about immigration. You can't be this stupid, please.

no it doesn't, it's a lot more broad than that

women voluntarily being smuggled into america and then working to pay off their debt to the smuggler are trafficked

happens a lot with asians in massage parlours

>>69850649
Yeah, I forgot to add sex workers, etc. The point stands, human trafficking is not immigration.

>>69848024
I thought europeans were ok with weed

>>69849855

>research chemicals

just fuck my brain up pham

I've heard of some terrible experiences with these, why not stick to acid like a normal hippy?

Jeff Sessions is anti weed, so the federal government is probably going to start forcing states to re-criminalize marijuana.

>>69850685
>human trafficking is not immigration.
Good, take them all back.

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>>69851017
We are. For almost the entire last decade.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/11/20/more-mexicans-leaving-us-than-entering-study-says.html

>>69850997
Trump wanted it to be about states rights so it's ambiguous.

>>69851048
Take their kids too.

And all the ones who came from South America.

>>69851177
Yeah, the former are Americans Citizens by law, and the latter are not our countrymen, so no. And it was you the ones originally encouraging illegal immigration and hiring them in the first place, there is a reason more than 6 million illegal immigrants are not from Mexico, and many are not even from the Americans either, and the fact that half of all didn't came through the border. You could have stopped it if you wanted, by not hiring them, penalizing the people who did, and not giving them any kind of services, which you do. That was some of your rich people and your congress screwing you over, more than anything.

>>69851304
>*from The Americas

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>>69851304
>the former are Americans Citizens by law
Wrong.

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>>69851352
They are

>>69850550
Not him, but you can't seriously expect that hard drugs be fully legalized. I know you don't give a shit so you would rather that they sell heroin at walmart lmao.

>>69847965
DUDE

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>>69850869

I don't think of it as anymore risky than smoking weed or driving a car every day. I quit smoking five years ago after retiring from the military by using e-cigarettes, fuck me if I know if it's safe long term, but short term carried no negative health effects.

Psychadelic research chemicals are pretty safe and studied decently; 1P-LSD is one I'd wager on being the safest (pic is a metabolism chart of the drug), some do have a good amount of history of use.

Lots of people get paranoid about this stuff and it sticks in their head when they try to use it. They think it's 'fake acid' or the word 'chemical' screams danger at them. Nobody I know would ever be open to even discussing them, let alone doing them. They would rather buy 'real acid' off some sketchy somalian who's probably selling underdosed blotters of what's probably not even acid (2C-X-NBOMe's, analogues like ETH-LAD, AL-LAD, 1P-LSD). It's also pretty much impossible to eyeball dosage any salts like 4-Aco-DMT, and it's not uncommon for idiots to purchase it, overshoot their desired dosage, and have a really bad time.

Most analogues are generally in the danger zone of their parent drug. Opiate analogues like u-47700 and fentanyl are terrifyingly potent and also caustic, I know benzodiazepine analogues are hard to measure out properly.

And honestly, with the amount of shit we're exposed to daily, there are much bigger things for me to worry about

>>69849997
If 4chan made a /drugs/ board we wouldn't even need a 420chan. Missed business opportunity for them.

>>69848859
>It would be easy to stop the traffic, but corrupted Mexicans officials wont.

your own country can't stop it, you retard

>>69850869
i am reading you guys and i sorta understand mexicans. why is this country full of junkie retards? didn't your parents tell you that drugs are bad? what went wrong? i hope you get busted and go to a pound me in the ass prison.

>>69851461
Why not? Do hard drugs magically disappear if they are illegal? Do drug users magically stop using them?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_policy_of_Portugal

And not only would making them legal would make them safer, as they would have to meet standards, but treatment for drug addicts would be easier and STDs would also decrease.

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>>69851525

u just h8 me cuz u aint me ;^)

>>69851589
Magically disappear? Illegal? What?

I am saying the opposite, you can't just sell hard drugs to everyone curious especially in a country like the US literally full of millions of morons who think drugs are cool like the ones posting in this thread. I don't know anything about Portugal but don't you think that, considering the size of the two countries, the problem here is a bit of a different scale?

>>69851472

I can get real, tested LSD so I've never bothered with the other stuff

the low dosages and synergistic human stupidity probably account for the stories I've heard

I'm still a bit irrationally averse to RCs but hey, more for the market

>>69851739

Different strokes for different folks I guess

I've never found anyone to buy LSD from, let alone know anyone who has gotten anything more than shrooms. The quick shipping, legal safety, convenience of paying online, etc sells it to me. But I'd definitely prefer the original substance

>>69851724
>you can't just sell hard drugs to everyone curious especially in a country like the US
Well, that is exactly what is happening right now. Making them legal wouldn't change anything in that regard, people are already using them and they are really easy to get.
What it would change is this: a) if is not in the black market, criminals can no longer profit from it as easily as they can now that they control 100% of the market, which is a huge problem for my country, b) people who do use them don’t end up in jail and get treated instead, c) drugs become less dangerous as they have to meet standards for production, d) Both STDs and overdose deaths actually decrease.
Portugal doesn’t consider them legal, but they are decriminalized, and that is a huge step in the right direction as the direct results of them doing it are that drug-related pathologies - such as sexually transmitted diseases and deaths due to drug usage - have decreased dramatically. Harm reduction policies is what actually works, not prohibition.

>>69851869

what part of canada are you in?

the pacific northwest has good acid if you know who to ask

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>>69851724
>I don't know anything about Portugal but don't you think that, considering the size of the two countries, the problem here is a bit of a different scale?

that's a real dumb and arbitrary argument, it's not like america doesn't have governments at levels below federal

point was that portugal doesn't arrest and send people to jail for small scale possession of any drug, and there hasn't been much of a difference

society got along well enough when morphine and coke were legal

>>69851953

Temiskaming Shores, ON

Bumfuck nowhere

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>>69851970
yeah i am dumb that's right.
based on what you guys are posting here, i am probably talking with someone real smart who looks like this lmao

>>69852090
1. Personally I am against drugs (I include alcohol, which is a drug), I do not consume anything other than coffee, I do not promote them and I don't like to be with people when they are under their influence.
2. I think that sometimes consumers overreach themselves by claiming that their hobbies are totally innocuous.
3. I believe that anti-drugs movements are even more vastly overstretched by painting frightening and false scenarios on drug use.
4. I believe that everyone has the right to use drugs as part of their freedom to do with their body what they want (as long as it does not directly harm those around them).
5. Prohibition has not worked. On the contrary, and the price has been paid with money, resources and lives to combat drugs, and the damage is colossally higher than what would be paid if they were legal, if those who consume them could have access to a quality-controlled product with reliable information about what they are and what it does, and treat the addiction with professional support (without moral shit).
6. I defend the total and absolute decriminalization of consumption for responsible adults, the control of production, its integration in the economy and what it could contribute to the public treasury resources that may serve to encourage the aforementioned at the end of point 5.

This is a really touchy subject for me because, while people in our governments are having this very same argument over a no-brainer, in real life it is destroying my country while nothing gets ever done.

>>69852028

RCs it is

>>69851924
>Making them legal wouldn't change anything in that regard
>Portugal doesn’t consider them legal,
So which is it? And what are you advocating? Full legalization so any curious schmuck could buy himself a little heroin at a local walmart?

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>>69852152
>I am against all drugs
>I drink coffee

>>69852210
the mexican has better understanding of english than you, let that sink in

>>69852152
>as long as it does not directly harm those around them
like driving while high? how do you prevent that?
if you smoke some weed and drive and kill someone, it probably wouldn't even be possible to prove you were high? that would be horrible

>>69852210
Full legalization, but I am acknowledging that what Portugal did is a step in the right direction.

>>69852247
Except for coffee because it doesn't change my state of mind and it tastes good.

>>69852275
How do you prevent it right now? Alcohol is legal, but that doesn't mean that driving drunk is permitted.

>>69852322
well at least you get slapped with a DUI which is a serious offense. so the fear of getting busted for drunk driving is a good deterrent. but if you "only" smoke a little weed there is nothing to be afraid of. and driving while high on weed is totally safe, right.

>>69852389
>but if you "only" smoke a little weed there is nothing to be afraid of
The same applies to alcohol, there is a limit in how many alcohol has to be in your blood for it to be harmful if you want to drive. You only have to set a limit.
>and driving while high on weed is totally safe, right.
Says who? Btw, no.

>>69852389
>and driving while high on weed is totally safe, right.

show something that proves otherwise

>>69852275

the fuck are you on about, they've developed tests for ng THC per unit blood and this is how legal states have set a limit (5 ng/ml is the common level - whether that is fair is another debate but there is one)

if you get busted for driving erratically and they test your blood and find THC (which they are allowed to do in legal states) then you get a DUI

its like you haven't even googled this

>>69852468

pedro don't buy his bullshit

I split my time between an illegal state and a legal state, and he's talking out of his ass to defend his arguments

>>69852468


>safe
no, that was sarcasm.

>>69852482
i dunno, ask the mexican.

>>69852513
that's right i haven't googled. i just know drugs are bad

>>69848024
What? No it won't. I've been caught with narcotics on me by the police and they even let me keep my stuff and just let me go. The most you can get is a fine.

>>69852513
>>69852548
Honestly, I don't know enough about the scientific tests saying whether it is safe to drive while high on weed or not. So I won't really get into an argument regarding that.

But the point is that it is irrelevant. If it turns out it is dangerous, it is not permitted, if it turns out it is safe, then it is permitted.

>>69847965
Why Mexicans always smoke low quality weed

Am I really that uptight or is corn just unsmokable garbage?

>>69849780
Europe has way better quality drugs than the US though.

>>69852595

unsmokable garbage

the cartels go for quantity

that weird guy at the dispensary wearing a tie dye shirt and a nametag that says 'Bongo,' whose house lights keep flickering and who has read entire books on terpenes and trichome density goes for quality

American weed blows most other weed out of the water

>>69852641

this is generally true but in terms of weed and classical psychedelics the US wins

but for everything else (mostly x) europe wins

>>69852661
>but for everything else (mostly x) europe wins

it's because mossad makes a lot of their off books budget on the production of it and europe is their market

>>69850175
What about 4-MeO-DMT?

>>69847965
>low quality vs. high quality
That's just freshness. The stuff on the left is old and dry as hell.

There are other factors that influence quality like taste and THC content.

>>69848298
FYI California just raised the legal tobacco age to 21 last year too.

I had grown men at gas stations asking me to buy cigs for them. [spoiler]I didn't do it, but I still think it's stupid that the age was raised.

>>69849622
this.
low quality cannabis i've seen looks different too
usually has long leafs

>>69852647
Glad to see I'm not crazy. Not legal in my state and not an expert here but by now I can tell by the color and smell

Don't understand why bad shit is so popular it doesn't even give you a good high. Smoke every now and then but when I want to I want actually feel and be high. Usually smoke with friends but they never care about quality