/sino/ 中文

>>69772847
CHING CHONG DONG WANG GOOK NIP NONG

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>>69772897
You ruined my first :(

>>69772897
Have you tought about doing stand up comedy?
You yankees are hilarious

>>69772870
>state-sponsored false-flag spy agency
>irrelevant

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>>69772963
Yeah, take this Bill Maher guy for example. He swears on TV, hilarious right?
>>69772993
They didn't get anything done and the actual Maoist didn't trust them for not participating in their actions.

>>69772933
no can do你这个Eбaнныe виaбy
@一路順風

>>69773018
>actual maoist
did they get anything done?

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>>69772847
简体字比繁体字好多了

>>69773290
you owe us money for sabotaging or joint science project/venture to blast a rocket off to Mars.

pay now.

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>>69773290
用簡體字只是你的習慣
>>69773354
>demanding money
Petty bourgeoisie mentality.
>>69773240
They dif after they grew up and became the serious political party the SP is now. Maoists in western Europe were roleplayers at best.

>>69772847
That girl is super sexy. I hope she participted in our countrys eugenics program and married successful chinese husband and had lots of genetically superior chinese babies.

>>69772847
thank you op for sharing this pic. saved

>>69773396
it is money they owe us for destroying our rocket. otherwise we would have reached to mars before India.

>>69773354
How much did you spend on 4chan passes, friendo?

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你們突然從哪裡來的? 怎麼不需要vpn?

>>69773468
zero dollars. i am elite chinese hacker who used his brain to bypass takahiros range ban on chinese ips.

you owe us a rocket.

>tfw being a proxy fag prohibits muhself from condemning proxyfagging justly

b-but it's different, r-right? ai mu banned by hiroyuki a-and not for shitposting!

>>69773436
her husband is ai wei wei

>>69773657
>Ai Weiwei
That names makes my professors go into a frenzy.
>hurr, no one in China knows Ai Weiwei, he doesn't deserve the attention
Damage control perhaps.

>>69773657
sounds chinese. im satisfied.

>>69773732
elaboration on these professors regarding china pls

>>69773240
>>69772933
This seems to be a good choice https://www.amazon.cn/%E7%8E%B0%E4%BB%A3%E6%B1%89%E8%AF%AD%E8%AF%8D%E5%85%B8/dp/B01MA1KQC0/ref=pd_cp_14_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=NRZ9BF0NCXT0E4XC6QG6

I'm unsure if there's some authorative Chinese-Japanese dictionary that exists though

>>69773763
Well, sinology professors here are apologists for the Chinese regime. Their idea of having a nuanced view of China is being a red guard of sorts. I am exaggerating and they're not all like that, but still.
Maybe the Chinese government pays them to hold those positions, maybe they hold those positions because they're sinophiles and oikophobes anyway. I am not sure.

>>69772933
>>69773782
Also there's the 大漢和辞典 but that's a character dictionary

I'm halfway trough the James Legge translation of Tao te Ching.
Pretty pleasant and the notes are nice, even if they feel a bit unprofessional (It's 110 years old, so I forgive)

>>69773824
>apologists for the Chinese regime
wew ain't that like unicorn
how old are they? do they live through the 60s? they lived through the 60s don't they
which institution are you in anon

>>69773877
tell me about how now you feel about herr.李耳 if you pls

>>69774037
The only Dutch university with sinology.
Some did live through the sixties, the true old guard that is. Some are much younger. Even some of the young students copy the attitude.

Meanwhile the actual Chinese people working there are quite mild and moderate. I guess Global Times readers don't work abroad and in education anyway.

>>69774037
I'm sorry,but didn't quite catch the meaning.

>>69774103
李耳 = 老子

>>69774119
Oh,I get it now.

>>69774037
It's pretty good.
Relaxing.
The second translation I'm reading,
I own one more partial translation I think.(Gotta check the collection)

I read it to blow off steam.

Lao Tzi's philosophy of "don't push too hard" should be used more in the west.We stress and work too much.

>>69774083
>Global Times readers
kek

>>69774176
ain't ya surprized dat dis old fucker got it all almost 3000 years ago while we are still dipshits?

>>69774239
Weird how the west never developed something similar on a grand scale.
Maybe because of the ethnic conflicts.

How much for cute Chinese girlfriend?

>>69774418
lifetime chastity
well maybe not

>>69773839
谢谢您 ^_^

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/10/world/asia/china-taiwan-strait-aircraft-carrier-trump.html
HAHAHAHAHAAHHA

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>>69774418
You should know as a Canadian.
>>69774239
Are Global Times readers laughingstocks over there or do you kek at me for misunderstanding something?

>>69775041
Meh.

>>69775051
the former
for me they are

>>69773657
lmao of course he is

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>>69775041
What is chairman Xi going to do next, get his dick sucked by an intern?
>>69775095
When I read Global Times, Poe's law kicks in for me. It's like a caricature of the government worshipping and easily offended Chinese obsessed with self-aggrandizement.

怎好、我愛中国 (*･ω･)

>>69775225
fun that i reckon global times adopts some of /pol/'s laws
>don't believe in "truth", believe in victory hail victory yayyyy!
global times' lesson for me is nae take "truth" for granted by sitting inside your own little fucking pond ignoring the universe passing by, stride on! breach and shine!
and shit do you minor in politics?

>>69775391
朋友你好

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>>69775625
/pol/ is pretty different. They like to make fun of and transgess whatever is considered trendy and acceptable. Global times parrots the party line with some sensational spice on top of it.
>and shit do you minor in politics?
No, but I tend to do well whenever politics come up in my major, even though I disagree with most of what the teachers think and say. I guess they can appreciate that I have and opinion of my own and can back it up with arguments and source material.

>>69775391
你怎么能爱中国?那里人没礼貌、空气不纯洁,过于糟糕的、质量高的东西和食物太贵了、网络不仅限制的、而且网速慢得不能再慢。由于社会主义他们失去了中国的古典文化,连日本的保存好了中国的文化,何况台湾。

你试试把我说服我说得不正确。

>>69775826
你怎麼持著這種看法硬要用簡體字?

>>69775826
中国的生活很方便。人是又友好又欢迎的。饭好吃,你每时间可以找到饭。 什么东西都找得容易。网络的限制没有问题。中国文化很强 lol 我写得不太好,不好意思 :D

>>69775880
太懒在windows把键盘换成繁体字。

>>69775697
>sensational
can't say i really /pol/ that's for sure, but whether politically incorrect or correct, politics in general is about getting people pepped up and that's equally unhealthy ain't it

>>69775826
>食物太贵了
not if you cook
>由于社会主义他们失去了中国的古典文化
meme

>>69776123
>网络的限制没有问题
you reckon?

>>69776357
Yeah-- I have a VPN though obviously-- but I just use Baidu or QQ most of the time desu I just the VPN to look at porn and post.

>>69776484
>but I just use Baidu
您是外国人是吧?

>>69776518
我是。我真的是一个美国人

>>69776725
百度您用得惯?

>>69776484
但是百度是垃圾。在百度里什么都搜索不着。都是广告。

post smelly chink girl feet

fuck off feetfag

>>69776979
/sino/ is too small to be picky about who posts here. Let's be 寬容

>>69776816
我用百度。。。 地图。 其实平常用APP.

>>69777039
>APP
is it initialism or acronym? :^)

ching chong nip ning nong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYnIBxLsPAQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5YRUspGnag

学习雷锋好榜样
忠于革命忠于党
爱憎分明不忘本
立场坚定斗志强
立场坚定斗志强

旗高举兮部列张,
赳赳队员豪气长。
同仁殉道死几许,
赤党负隅犹猖狂。
异哉盘桓复何念?
一统吾德威名扬!
革命广援空阡陌,
卍字旗追纳粹党。
前进前进又前进,
解放洪宇备荣光!
为饼食兮抗志在,
不悔自由英雄郎!
正此日兮正此时,
迎枪饮弹谁惜伤?
德意志兮万万岁,
灵魂突进前途广。
领袖圣恩满宇宙,
苦难过后唯天堂!

>>69777743
>卍
Yuo are nadzi

>>69777987
i am commie
unironically
unconventionally tho

>>69778044
Sure you are. Not being one is a crime where you live.

>>69778224
no it's not a crime

>>69778249
Even when you do so publicly? What is the censorship for then?

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提出猫吧

>>69778409
censorship isn't inquisition
don't go out and yell "down with the communist party" tho

>>69778409
Read the research artice by King, Pan and Roberts from Havard 2013. Very enlightening.

"How Censorship in China Allows Government Criticism but Silences Collective Expression"

American Political Science Review Vol. 107, No. 2 May 2013
doi:10.1017/S0003055413000014

>>69779311
Sorry for the format; I just copypasted from the pdf paper I have lying around here.

Abstract:

We offer the first large scale, multiple source analysis of the outcome of what may be the most
extensive effort to selectively censor human expression ever implemented. To do this, we have
devised a system to locate, download, and analyze the content of millions of social media
posts originating from nearly 1,400 different social media services all over China before the Chinese
government is able to find, evaluate, and censor (i.e., remove from the Internet) the subset they deem
objectionable. Using modern computer-assisted text analytic methods that we adapt to and validate in
the Chinese language, we compare the substantive content of posts censored to those not censored over
time in each of 85 topic areas. Contrary to previous understandings, posts with negative, even vitriolic,
criticism of the state, its leaders, and its policies are not more likely to be censored. Instead, we show
that the censorship program is aimed at curtailing collective action by silencing comments that represent,
reinforce, or spur social mobilization, regardless of content. Censorship is oriented toward attempting
to forestall collective activities that are occurring now or may occur in the future—and, as such, seem to
clearly expose government intent.

>>69779346
tl;dr

you can say that Xi Jinping is an asshole and should be shot and this wont get you censored.

But if you say that "let's go to tiananmen tomorrow and demand the overthrowal of the party", that post will get censored.

But even if you say "let's all go to tiananmen tomorrow to thank the glorious communist party for building us a new highway and bridge etc." it will get censored as well, since this could cause the mobilization of people.

>>69779311
>>69778409
http://gking.harvard.edu/files/censored.pdf

Anyone else seen this Wired documentary on Shenzhen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGJ5cZnoodY

Really makes me want to go

>>69779534
Some nice toys from there soon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAzlxokKjHA

>>69779534
as soon as you hear the honking horns and smell the cigarette smoke, you know you're in china

>>69779531
>>69779421
>>69779346
>>69779311
Thanks, I'll get to reading it. Looks like playing dumnb and being a little provocative is still a good way to obtain interesting information.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFEmrud8aOI
一位真诚的长者

>>69781308
>that lad with bow tie

Why do you like Chinese classics and philosophy? I'm curious, we never study them here

>>69782100
the aspiration of making senses out of things usually comes as hard and desperate as having enough to eat
those wise chinks looked it in the face

>>69782100
It just happened to grow on me when I was learning classical Chinese. Many are attracted to the mystery of the 道德經. They should know that 莊子 is superior.

>>69782378
您看完齐物论还说这种话?

>>69782100
because i'm chinese?

For one reason, chinese text has excellent mutual intelligibility over grand time span, that is like inscription text on excavated artifact from warring states or even earlier Zhou or Shang ( 2-3 centuries BC and beyond ) can be published on mass media and spurred discussion.
Which is like text on roman/greek artifact, except that not much people understand classical latin or (ionic/doric/attic) greek that well, that made publishing these texts on media pointless.

On the other hand, Chinese had great literary and historiography tradition, that's why you had heard of soo many "china had a saying", because there are a lot of historical occurrence chinese can refer modern life to.


With a fairly accessible nebulous archive of ancestor's experiences, brings a grand world view which sinks one into it.

中文串的各位請幫我集氣
祝我能順利考進理想的大學 ^_^

>>69783277
请问您信魁星爷么

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35Wro_Hds8M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5VI052Mn-o

http://www.bilibili.com/video/av408634/

>>69783347
我只聽過文昌帝君欸

>>69782978
You are from Singapore, which means your ancestors are probably from Fujian. These ancient thinkers you talked about thought of your ancestors as subhuman beasts, half man and half fish in some cases.
>>69782438
還沒,我忙著寫作文,好煩。

>>69783452
这边还流行拜孔子

>>69783519
i come from shanxi where people get khand hard
what matters is that the chinese language circulates among us
even you are now a spiritual offspring of them don't you deny that

>>69783404
This is my favourite chink song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARa-OwlOx1U

Can someone enlighten me what it's about?

>>69783755
garbage technician

Since everyone is posting chinese music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcHsWONb27o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gINgtgPOHk

Fuardai

>>69783755
trashy pop

>>69783961
>>69783755
missed out this other trashy pop

>>69783404
First one is enjoyable, the second one is kind of annoying

>>69783961
Debauched Western filth

>>69784004
Not my taste

Here's a classic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50dyyevLH6I

>>69773290
kys

>>69784126
>trashy pop
rude

>>69784177
>Debauched Western filth
nothing wrong with western influences

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>>69784224
>nothing wrong with western influences

There's a second /sino/ general again...

Another classic (but it's in Cantonese): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K3uwRtE4PY

>>69784310
You are canadian, what are you even talking about?

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cantonese
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sTMpb424Dw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmIoqb3kTGo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSHTnGMiupw
————————
classy teresa, zhou xuan and others
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CbQ5lszFiY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdQV5eYin5o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rjw51yv7meY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aV1VUl1Zlrk

>>69784432
>doesn't check the catalogue
>creates general
Fucking yanks I swear

>>69784450
Canada is full of hostile and self-righteous Chinese now or so I heard, real estate speculators. This guy might be one of them.

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>>69785069
Come on, it's not hard to see that western influence on mainstream music is shit

Ruined korean music, chinese music is next.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pQWL5xoI8g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmrr2HUNEwo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ur84pyqtYg

>>69783638
Oh I won't deny it. I am actually proud of it.

What you said about Shanxi reminds me of a conversation I had with a tour guide there. I asked him if Shanxi has any 少數民族, he said that on paper they don't have much, but that's actually misleading because people in Shanxi tended to be mixed as it comes to ethnic heritage. Makes me think that the regions of China where minorities are the most common are actually the ones that have most of a history of segregration.

He also told me he can go to Hohot and understand the local dialect. Is Shanxi speak really that Mongol?

>>69785307
Listen to this and ejoy your hategasm then:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i8aJAv7zOk

>>69785307
Apropo music.
Is there an english translation of the Book of Songs?(I think it's called Si Ching I think)

>>69785471
You mean 詩經? Sure there must be some. It has beautiful poems, worth reading. Stay away from the other classics though. Historically and philosophically crucial as they are, they are unreadable.

>>69785341
Really liked the second song. Really unconventional but enjoyable.

>>69785361
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%99%8B%E8%AF%AD#.E5.88.86.E5.B8.83

>>69785561
春秋经

>>69785307
>Ruined korean music
kpop is great dbh

whoa, i've put up quite a list of prominent chinese song.

It's not your everyday which the question "what are some nice chinese song" gets substance-ful answer

Imma end with a folk song from another chink language i've not posted yet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4SWOpt3b0I

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obiligatory

我取得了面对去日本工作
中国くそくらえ
日本万歳

>>69773824
if your university has a Confucius Institute, most, if not all of your Chinese professors will be handpicked by the government

>>69787799
citation needed pls

>>69787799
>Confucius Institute
I have one in my uni, I think I will apply to their mandarin course

>>69787799
I highly doubt that. And if they are, their task is not to act out the goddamn wumaodang or something. They're very tolerant and open to discussion of their country and its weaker points, much more so than your average Chinese person. One of them called 蔡英文 台灣總統 and said it's up to Taiwanese themselves to consider if they see themselves as Chinese or not. He would not say those things if his job is what you think it is.

I do know the Confucius institute isn't too happy with this particular installment though.

>>69787869
can't find the article, but it basically explained the structure of the CI and how people are hired

The board of directors has a lot of former or current CPC officials, and it's the CI who hires employees and sends them abroad. The host universities don't get any say in who the CI picks.

One of my Chinese teachers said that teachers only stay in the host country for two teaching years before moving off to another country or back to China

>>69788128
It's true that most of the teachers work here temporarily and then go back to China. But they are usually very young and just out of college, sometimes not even done with college yet.

My university has its own teachers too. Dutch and Taiwanese ones too, they don't really on the Confucius institute, but it might be a nice source of gongchangdangbux.

I know this is going to sound autistic, but I want to take my desktop with me when I go on my year abroad.

I'm considering turning my current build into a Mini-ITX or Micro-ATX build and taking it in my carry on, then buying a monitor, mouse and keyboard when I get to China.

Have any of you done that?

>>69788323
Why does it have to be that desktop? Can't you just transfer the files and use something more practical? What's the destination in china by the way?

>>69788365
shanghai i presume

>>69788365
I suppose I could, but it's only about a year old and is quite beefy

Haven't decided where yet. We're going to be spending the next month or so sorting that stuff out.

>>69788534
What are you going to do? Work? Study? Behave like a perverted manwhore? A combination of any of those?

>>69788571
It's a year of study, then work until you need to come back to the UK to study

you can just buy the parts in china
they have all the new stuff probably cheaper too

it isn't the third world you know, although you might feel like it at times

>>69788752
It is truly second world. I talked to Eastern Europeans about it. They expect a super exotic place and get home with Chinese people instead.

>>69788792
define "second world" pls

>>69788860
in between first and third world

>>69788860
Second world is current and former communist countries.

>>69788860
russia

reminder that chinese civilisation is a lie, china did not actually exist before the ming dynasty all of china's history before the ming is made up.

before the ming there was no china, there were lots of things, chinese idenity grew out of hatred of the qing.

>>69788972
Source plox. I want to read some good conspiratainment. What you posted reminds me of the phantom time theory.

while mao's second world being europe oceania japan canada and the like

>>69788972
>b4 黑船来航 there is no japan

>>69788972
dynastic china is pretty old
maybe not for foreigners but definitely a thing for dynastic rulers they always wanted to be just like the first emperor

>>69789028
>phantom time theory
dutch anon this is 顾颉刚, 顾颉刚 this is dutch anon

>>69789276
Alright then, I will look for his work and similar things in the sinology library.
Got to finish this damn essay first.

>>69788972
also common hatred implies common identity
especially when this common hatred can create an ethnicity out of nothing

if china itself is not an identity then anti-qing is an ethnic identity in itself, and if that's the case then mongols and koreans would be chinese too

>>69779534

i live in shenzhen. it ain't that great

>>69789506
您好

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>>69789506
Are you being a proxy friend or on a Taiwan trip?
Is Shenzhen full of gangsters like 張安樂?

>>69790417
>Ching Chong
We usually say Ching Ling

>>69790417
why so racist

>>69790977
We actually say Xing Ling. Ching has a different pronunciation in english.

>>69791087
Whatever, Ch = X in portuguese

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>>69782100
Singaporefag is correct, ancient chinese literature indeed has survived the millenia, which is one reason.

On the other hand, the fact that Chinese societal and political traditions/habits basically have been largely the same makes relating to ancient hebbenings fairly easy.

No matter the name of the respective political system or government, what rules China will always remain a dynasty.

Is that guy in invalid scooter The Chairman and that upskirter he's 'Shanghai bitch' of a fourth wife?

>>69791254
Actually quite a lot of didn't survive the last century; first editions and original works in Beijing archives were burned and destroyed systematically by the Reds even before 1948 and especially during the Cultural revolution.
Especially considering that large majority of these works have never been translated to any other language, they are major loss.

Never forget that NIGGERS were the cause for the 1989 student protests.

>>69791492
Cultural Artefacts =! Living Culture

This is a common western misconception, as we are used to preserve our ancient buildings and artefacts, thinking that they are the symbols of our heritage and cultural traditions.

Chinese have always burned their cultural artefacts after each dynasty (except for the Qing, who preserved the Ming stuff, which is why we know so much about them today), but their culture remained intact and largely unchanged simply because it was a culture that was living, and not a museum piece.

>>69791683
For example; if we burned all artefacts and library entries about Roman history or European feudalism, this tradition will simply die out, as we nowadays have absolutely nothing in common with our roman or feudalist ancestors.

But if the Chinese burn shit from X-Dynasty, they wont change, as long as Emperor Xi and the Communist Dynasty still reigns over the country as the Han, Tang, Song, Ming etc. would.

>>69791683
Am I to understand that you think there is no strong oral or non-stationary cultural history in the West?
There sure as hell is, at least in Scandinavia, Finland, all Eastern Slavic and central European areas.

>>69791781
This in turn, is the reason why Chinese film-makers use ancient Chinese stories/historical events to criticize nowaday's CCP regime, btw.

天朝 isnt only ironic shitposting, but actually real.

>>69791781
>as we nowadays have absolutely nothing in common with our roman or feudalist ancestors.
This is load of shit and you obviously have no knowledge of your own society, not even it's legal system.

>>69791852
He is saying chinese mindset doesn't change when a new power arrives

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他喵的

>>69791852
Yeah, sure. But do Scandinavians still sail on boats around the rivers and seas of Northern Europe, pillaging and raping unsuspecting vilalges?

No.

So, if we burnt that history, noone would know who the fuck Thor was.

Chinese, on the other hand, still live under a de-facto dynastic autocratic system. Even if the communists would forbit the people celebrating the Duan Wu festival and forbid the people from remembering poet Qu Yuan, who committed sudoku because of political repressions, modern Chinese would quickly reproduce a similiar tradition because political repression still exist, generating one Qu Yuan after another.

Living Culture is based on structural foundations. Artefact-based culture are merely museum-pieces that will die out like the Egyptian culture, once it is destroyed.

>>69791627
gorbachev's visit his his talk about glasnost was

>>69791683
This is true, cultures throughout history constantly disassemble and rebuild themselves. Usually if some monument is still standing it's because 1. It's fairly contemporary and there was no change in rule since it was erected 2. taking it apart was too inconvenient.

>>69792105
Something relevant about Egyptian culture: Iook up Akhenaten, the phraoh who attempted and failed to eradicate Egyptian religion.

>>69792193
One thing I fear: I think contemporary China is actually in danger of losing its culture, because of the rapid urbanization and the literal death of the traditional village communities, which are the usual carrier of ancient traditions, due to mass-scale urban-migration.

In fact, the Cultural Revolution didnt change a lot, since it only destroyed the "Museum Pieces" of Chinese culture, but left the economic and societal foundations in the villages largely intact.

But Deng's economic reforms have radically changed the economic and societal foundations, which is the soil on which "Living Culture" grows on.

So, the recent "Chinese Tradition"-movements (Hanfu, Confucius etc.) could be indicative of the desperate attempt of the Chinese people to quickly turn their now endangered "Living Culture" into "Museum Culture" to artificially preserve it, since in the future, when 80% of China is urbanized and the village communities are dead for real, noone will recreate the traditional chinese culture anymore.

>>69792346
Yeah, Akhenaten tried to pull a Mao, but like Mao, he failed because you cant change living culture so easily by merely smashing statues.

But if Akhenaten radically reformed the economy and society like Deng did, Egyptian polytheism would quickly die out within a generation, even if he smashed no statue.

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>>69792405
That would be incredibly sad. Every country needs comfy villages, not everyone is suitable for urban living.

>>69792631
everyone is
one of the tenants of cosmopolitanism is that everyone can be made into a gear, including chinese village folks

don't let china become the museum for western pigdogs stand up and build a wall with your flesh

大家好,你们听什么音乐?

Also great to see so many replies today

>>69792631
I agree. The chinese state should actively preserve Chinese culture by preserving at least a minimum of intact village communities.

This has to be done not by symbolic politics, but by economic incentives for people to move back to villages and make a living there. This, of course, requires environmental protection for the country-side, as well as declaring them off-limits for industries, who would otherwise simply scam off that land from the peasants.

Actually, Guangxi and Fujian are doing it pretty well. Former was personally protected by Deng Xiaoping himself, forbidding any polluting industries to settle there as to preserve the landscape and nature, while Fujian's tea-industry is so economically relevant, that it makes economic sense to preserve the traditional rural structure.

The one most fucked, of course, are the Northern Chinese provinces, where heavy industry is king.

>>69792726
>Hello everyone, what music do you listen to?
Samba, Metal, Electronic music, Kpop and some other artists

>>69791627
You mean Guangzhou had its own protests?
>>69792726
Mostly metal, mandopop and J-pop.

>>69792857
>mandopop
could you share some, other than LuHan (the only one I know)?

>>69792157
no it was black niggers from africa

>>69792694
This of course is also a good counter-argument: Disney-ization of culture.

In the end, there needs to be a balance. Of course culture is always lagging behind progress. So some culture needs to be actively preserved and protected, or else they will simply die out due to obsolescence. But on the other hand, many traditions can actually made relevant again, even for a modern live or current political and economic needs.

For example; it isnt a coincidence that the chinese government is nowadays actively reviving many traditional festivals and making them holidays by law: This is well in line with the CCP's wish to create a more domestic consumption-based economy; and you need to give your workers more days off so that they can go and consume.

>>69792726
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8NCT5-emxM

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>>69792820
王詩安

>>69791896
Dude we used to be the same people back then or if you go back to the Romans us Scandinavians barely existed

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>>69792917
Try 曲婉婷 for the Canadian mandopop

She's also a sly fox

>>69792953
no, it was gorbachev, the audience at his talks were uni students from beijing who believe that openess was fair and right and that ccp should be just as much servant to it as they are "servants of the people"

the protest was not about democracy

>>69793049
there isn't a "balance" because there is no loss of culture
what do you think the complaint about chinese tourists are all about?> or the exchange students on this board? that a few old buildings made pre-revolution has anything to do with eating with chopsticks and making dumplings? don't be so naive it's not fair, this isn't the amazonia where the native culture relies on the environment they have
han is a cosmopolitan culture and an atheistic one, it doesn't rely on specific materialism to spread its culture
it is spread through the medium of the culture and through the people that are a member of it, traditions and language

the things that a preservable was never in danger of being unpreserved, calligraphy is always encouraged and operas always performed, no one watch it not even foreigners but they are always on display with or without government intervention
the direction of the ccp to institutionalize cultural artifacts has nothing to do with preservation or saving culture, it has to to with building a foundation from which it can dictate "chinese-ness" the same with their bureaucracy dealing the Buddhist reincarnation, an unnatural westernized universalism about human intervention

pls don't make chinese into meme-aboriginals ala western countries in their own country

>>69793308
The protest was about exchange student Niggers getting more dick than chinks

>>69793387
I am doing to dick your mom
and you can protest

Chthonic is pretty good but their acoustic shit is garbage.

Are Taiwanese metal head girls cute?
I have long hair and could swoon them with a sick headbang, I'm sure.

>>69793248
>Dating married politician
>Mother arrested in china

>>69793387
Send this plot to a Japanese AV company to use it as a plot. They can use this actress to star in the video and play the chinese girl:
http://www.r18.com/videos/vod/movies/detail/-/id=cnd00187/?i3_ref=search&i3_ord=1
>>69793521
>Are Taiwanese metal head girls cute?
Chthonic is amazing but not really. Most of them are tattoo creeps.

Are all the german flags from the same poster?

He goes from insightful to shitposting

>>69792833
Dope I am also a fan of metal and a bit mixed
>>69792857
Sweet my fellow /sino/philes seems to have great taste
>>69793088
Trippy af senpai

>>69793591
No.

>>69793591
If it is the same guy he also loves feet, I'd like to think that we are a lot of people here but probably there are just one or two from each country

>>69793798
You're not the comfy Swede who misses Taiwan right? There used to be only one Swedish poster but you don't strike me as the same person.

>>69793798
well, there are 31 posters, so I think there are more than 2 from each country that posted

>>69793308
>what do you think the complaint about chinese tourists are all about?> or the exchange students on this board? that a few old buildings made pre-revolution has anything to do with eating with chopsticks and making dumplings? don't be so naive it's not fair, this isn't the amazonia where the native culture relies on the environment they have

Pretty good point.

Though, from a materialist point of view, the question remains what the physical reasons for "eating with chopsticks" and "making dumplings" actually are.

For example, if one banned the usage of chopsticks for an entire generation, by both physically destroying all chopsticks and banning the practize that food has to be cut into small pieces, would the follow on generation naturally return to eating with chopsticks again?

Or what is the physical reason of eating dumplings? If there is a physical reason for that, can be destroy that tradition by banning the physical reason for it?

From the past experience, we actually know that banning things actually create new traditions: Bamboo-knife cut noodles were diectly born from the Yuan-Dynasty law that banned the Han-people from privately possessing knifes, as the Mongol-rulers feared rebellions.

>pls don't make chinese into meme-aboriginals ala western countries in their own country

Sadly, I see exactly this happening in the future.
Obsolete culture will always die, if you dont protect it by law.

Noone today would celebrate Thanksgiving for the sake of thanking some aboriginals anymore, if you didnt have a day off as mandated by law and it hence became a mere opportunity to stuff one's face with turkeys.

Same with Chinese New Year. If people didnt get the day off (by now several weeks IIRC), this tradition will die and be replaced with Western New Year, as global economic activities wind down during that time, and hence chinese employees in the Exports will see no reason to not demand a day off as well.

Guys it just struck my mind that we should put togheter some Chinese music list with artists or songs for /sino/ so new /sino/philes can easier get into the stuff and be a nice medium of which we can help each other learn about new stuff

>>69793865
No I'm the one who was quite active yesterday on /sino/. I'm very interested in moving to China after my studies has finished so I don't miss Taiwan/what ever part I might end up in yet

>>69793989
I guess I'll add a good Taiwanese metal song to the box, mostly guoyu:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAbUeX6RPnM
>>69794125
What do you plan to do there?

ALRIGHT I think I have the link now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ8mn5fS5_M

#1 on the list. If you don't agree you don't belong here.

>>69794244
That's betel nut tier m8
With emphasis on nut ahuehuehue

>>69773824
>I am exaggerating
That's all you do with regards to China.

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Rank the Paramount leaders (excluding 华国锋 since he's a meme).

1. Deng Xiaoping - The reason why China will be a world super power. His economic reforms lifted half a billion people out of poverty.
2. Hu Jintao - Mostly smooth sailing. Improved relations with Taiwan.
3. Xi Jinping - Military reforms. Crackdown on "corruption". Need to wait and see.
4. Jiang Zemin - Literally did nothing.

=====Power Gap=====

100. Mao Zedong - Good wartime leader, terrible peacetime politician. Terribly misguided policies all around.

>>69794180
My would be something like work get friends live an ordinary life and enjoy China, I'm a bit tired of my own country and love travelling but I don't want to waste time back packing and the likes when I can spend on finishing my 5 year engineering degree and move some place after. Doesn't sound too bad of an idea imo

>>69793961
>Same with Chinese New Year
that's where you have to be chinese to understand

the cny is celebrated by overseas chinese people the most even more than chinese at home

the cny is based on the lunar calender of which most people have one at home

and the older folks still refer to the seasons based on the dates on the lunar calender because it is based on the seasons with the cny falling on a new moon

holidays like that are emphasised more through the importation of western ideas simply because it is a counter to it, such as the transportation crises during new years

some things will change the west because of china as well

>>69794336
>forgetting zhao ziyang
bud why XDDDDD

>>69794328
No mate, I was actually telling the British poster that he was being a bit too sensational. Or are you that professor with a grudge against me?
>>69794433
The whole lunar calendar thing is so confusing. I remember people used both that one and the Gregorian one in Taiwan. They never said which one they were using because it was obvious to them. Funny in a way.
>>69794336
I vote for 江青. At least she was somewhat good looking in her B-actress days.

>>69775041
>Euan Graham, the director of the International Security Program at the Lowy Institute in Sydney, Australia, said that for the Chinese, traveling through the strait was a logical way to move from one area of fleet operations to another along its long coastline. In order for warships based in northern ports, like the Liaoning, to return home from southern waters, they must either pass close to Japanese islands or transit the Taiwan Strait. “Geography forces a very binary choice,” he said.

Oh wow how evil WTF i hate China now!

>>69794647
Calm down. The Global Times readers need something to feel patriotic about. Let them have their moment.

>>69794424
>I'm a bit tired of my own country
It's amazing how people here think Sweden is a cold paradise, but what why are you tired?

>finishing my 5 year engineering degree
I'm studying engineering too, what kind of engineering are you studying? I'm doing Industrial/Production Engineering

>>69794098
Doesn't work very well please try again I'd really like to get every /sino/philes input because it's our list for us

>>69778409
You are honestly so deluded about how China is and isn't sometimes

Ancient China had sick production quality

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsAF43VYvbQ

>>69778409
you have to get invitation to become a member
they don't want everyone's cousins and uncles
it's a prestige membership you know
they also get voting rights for the plenetay session so of course not everyone can be

>>69794336
>2. Hu Jintao - Mostly smooth sailing. Improved relations with Taiwan.

Those who speak positively about him compare him with the Guanxu Emperor, whose orders never left the confines of his palace. He wanted to do good, but he was undermined by Jiang's court-eunuchs.

Those who speak negatively about him say that he's an indecisive wet rag who was shat upon by Jiang Zeming.

>4. Jiang Zemin - Literally did nothing.

Well, he created a new model of state-to-economy relationship and arguably saved the CCP-rule from contention by the increasingly powerful economic elites by giving them a stake in regime survival. The Three Represents are very hard to understand, but if you do, you will see how large of an impact they had in the chinese system.

But he is the single biggest reason for the cancerous corruption that ravages China ever since. And the reason why Hu was such an Obongo-tier ruler who couldnt achieve anything substancial.

>3. Xi Jinping - Military reforms. Crackdown on "corruption". Need to wait and see.

Like him or hate him, but he's the consequence of the Hu years, which were characterized by crony-capitalism and the decay of central power. Xi is basically trying to be a Chiang Kai Shek, trying to destroy the local Warlord Fiefdoms of the weak Hu-era and unite China under the central leadership once again.

At this point, I dont even care if he is really fighting corruption or just replacing them with his own men: Both is OK, as long as the central government regains its authority over a Chinese government that was dangerously fractioned during Hu's time.

I'd say that he's the Duderte that China needs right now.


>100. Mao Zedong - Good wartime leader, terrible peacetime politician. Terribly misguided policies all around.

Well, he created the Party-State system that achieved something that no Chinese dynasty ever achieved in the millenia past (expect for the Qin): That the state is actually in full control over China.

>>69794492
I got the list from wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paramount_leader#List_of_leaders

>>69794592
She would be below Mao in the ranking if I included her

>>69794946
i know, this is a subjective list
dxp actually was never in a official office of power since his banishment by mao, that's why he couldn't save liushaoqi

>>69787047
The PRC flag is actually powerful as fuck

RoC is okay-decent.

1912-1913 flag is shit-tier

Qing a best

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>>69794803
Not an argument.
Remember the Causeway Disappearances? Those bookstore people who got abducted for the content they sold. Is it delusional to believe that happened? And that they might be even harsher in the Mainland if they're so out in the open about disappearing people for their opinion in Hong Kong?

Give me something to work with like the other guy instead of these one-liner ad hominems.

How do you spurdospeak in Chinese?

>>69794721
I hate half of the political parties the jantelagen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Jante and just personally growing tired of the way life is here in in certain ways. I still love my people and my country and I work politically to help it become better but I like china and travelling so it would be nice to try another country

Well it starts this fall and applications open in March but my acceptance test results were so high I will guaranteely get in I will study either information technology or mechanical engineering at the royal technological college

Do you get a masters as well?

>>69788128
>The host universities don't get any say in who the CI picks.
Factually wrong

>>69788972
Japan ended in 1945.

Who wants the whatsapp of my CI teacher?

>>69794943
>At this point, I dont even care if he is really fighting corruption or just replacing them with his own men: Both is OK, as long as the central government regains its authority over a Chinese government that was dangerously fractioned during Hu's time.

Feels weird to hear that. Perhaps it's the western propaganda but I'm tuned to think that "checks and balance" and "decentralization of power are the moral choice.

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>>69794647
The issue of geography really is bugging China's naval ambitions for decades.

I predict that China will someday in the future take Taiwan militarily, so that they can finally break out into the Pacific and realize their dream of 海军强国.

Chinese strategists have read their Alfred T. Mahan and thus know that there is no way around but to become a maritime great power to sustain its status in the world.

>>69794336
While Zhou Enlai wasn't a leader he is underrated imo he was loyal af to mao and a real cool dude who was devoted to China and the party

>>69790417
Accurate. My [spoiler]japanese[/spoiler] mother is from Taipei and honestly "ching chongs" all east asians

>>69795307
No dox plox.

>>69795378
So your Japanese mother yells ching chong to other East Asians she meets? Sounds a little messed up.

>>69791492
[Citation needed]

Almost all ancient written Chinese works were copied and (poorly) translated by the 40's.

I can tell you are a meme spouter though so whatever

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>>69795487
Why hello there professor!

>>69795160
>jantelagen
interesting

>Well it starts this fall
I thought you already started

>information technology or mechanical engineering
Both great courses

>Do you get a masters as well?
I didn't finish yet, I dunno if I will get one or not, it depends if I can get out of this country after finishing my course or not

>>69795487
Oh look the "edcuated" associate ((((professor)))) chimes in again.

Just fuck off already, nobody cares about your pseudo knowledge.

>>69795319
>Feels weird to hear that. Perhaps it's the western propaganda but I'm tuned to think that "checks and balance" and "decentralization of power are the moral choice.

Problem is, checks and balances by corrupt people against other corrupt people does not work.
Hell, it barely works even here, where conflicting interest groups are blocking everything just for the sake of it.

And even with free media and free elections, nothing will be done if corruption is so entrenched into the system: Look at India.

The 9-man politburo during Hu's reign was basically an oligarchy of corrupt Lords who all ruled over their own small kingdoms and fought incessant wars against each other through their respective bureaucracies and command hierarchies.
China experienced so many problems during that time that could have been solved with an unified action, but instead it went to shit because vested interest groups connected with the decentralized leaders all protected their turf.

Collective Leadership was a mistake.
Deng would have never wanted what Jiang forced on the poor Hu.

>>69791896
Gonna need a source.

Most Westerners can't even speak or read the languages of their ancestors 500 years ago. At least most Chinese can read and intepret some of ancient Chinese languages.

>>69795581
That's interesting mine will be 5 years because the last two years are masters which are mandatory and after I become a civil engineer but it seems like civil engineers in English would refer to construction engineers as far as I understand

>>69792157
Western popular meme

Nost historians blame it on
1. Popular perception that Communism was dying
2. Corruption in the government
3. Pro-market reforms leading to massive job losses
4. Ethnic conflict with African immigrants in Southern China after Deng's reforms

>>69795777
>Ethnic conflict with African immigrants in Southern China after Deng's reforms
Like I said, Chinks got mad because Africans fucked all their Chinkgirl's pucci.

>>69792726
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4AHMg4fUz8

>>69795818
Why are there no riots in Guangzhou and Shanghai now then?

>>69792405
Much like the West.

>>69792523
>like Deng did
And like the Romans/Arabs did*

Great posts anon

>>69795708
We say civil engineer in Brazil so I understood. Here it's 5 years for the bachelors degree in any engineering, and more one or two years for masters.

>>69795838
They only fucc the gutter Chinks so nobody really cares.

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珍珠奶茶

>>69791492
Not even the last century.
Even the original works/collections of Confucius got fucked when Qin-shi-huang-ti got into power.

The chinese love burning books.

Art of war survived in fragments.
Tao te King detto.

And these are the mainstream ones.

>>69795487
>implying
Every single poem?
Every single note collection made by the sages/scientists?
Every big novel?(Like Red Chamber,Golden Vase and RoTK?)

>>69794336
>2. Hu Jintao - Mostly smooth sailing. Improved relations with Taiwan.

It was stable, but he set up the problems Xi now has to face.
Also, 2002-2008 RoC-PRC relations were horrible

大家晚安 see you tomorrow, I'll compose the songlist tomorrow

>>69793989
do you not read previous posts in this thread?
I've started music posting on >>69783404
and it ends in >>69785895
until you came

>>69794706
Stupid. It doesn't even matter to Nationalists. They assume Taiwan is theirs so they see this as normal.

NYT and sensationalists in Taiwan see this as "another Chinese provocation".

Which is bullshit. The waters are international, and they can only use them or piss off Japan.

>>69796330
If you compare """cross-strait relations""" at the beginning of his term and at the end, it was much better at the end. That's my interpretation.

>>69794902
wtf is this "ancient music" meme...
atleast try with the excavated bell set
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF3TUv066fQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-AXFstmSBU

>>69795319
The West is "better" because it's rich through old wealth. Not because of how its government is designed.

Compare Korea to Italy to the United States to Singapore. Just because some are authoritarian and some are "democratic" doesn't determine their development.

China has problems. And a lot of corruption. It's just that the solutions aren't so simple.

>>69796545
That's probably more because of that scandal and president horsey's subsequent election.

>>69795116
Releasing books personally attacking the ruler of a nation is far worse than being one of the other 1.32 billion Chinese who are not Communists.

Also, there's no substantiated evidence that shows that the "abductions" were in Hong Kong.

>>69794943
Are you the German who studies sinology? I feel like I've seen you before

Post your Chinese waifus

>>69796757
I guess in the end, it's the results that matter

>>69795454
No. But since I'm literally her son I know what she thinks and says about East Asians in private. She's American as fuck of course.

Kind of funny how she understands my grandparents """""""english"""""" though.

>/Sino/ - REAL YANK HOURS

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>>69795561
>>69795590
Not an argument

>>69796926
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O21nBSZbrQ

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>>69796926
Here is my weeb chinese nerdy waifu

>>69796878
>Releasing books personally attacking the ruler of a nation is far worse than being one of the other 1.32 billion Chinese who are not Communists.
But it is certainly a warning to them not to go out in public about it. It's like those crackdowns on brothels. They can't arrest all hookers, but they sure can bust some to scare the rest.
>>69796960
So is she self-hating in private?
>>69797012
That's right, I just said hello. That fuck should GTFO 020 though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-LPTAYXfn0

>>69795149
>>69795149
>>69795149
>>69795149
>>69795149

打倒共产党
打倒共产党
打倒共产党
打倒共产党

>>69797811
>>69795149
By intentionally using wrong characters more or less.
大家晚安
明天再聊

>>69797985
so like >>69791942

>>69795818
>>69795887
It was over placement in college.

China used to (still kind of does) give out free spots in universities to their "fellow developing world brothers". Pissed off a lot of southern urban Chinese.

>>69796277
>Every single poem?
>Every single note collection made by the sages/scientists?
>Every big novel?(Like Red Chamber,Golden Vase and RoTK?)

Read my post. It says "vast majority".

Some was lost of course, and that's shameful. But the Finn anon was completely wrong.

>>69796545
Had nothing to with Hu and everything to do with the dumbfuck (Taiwan's Bush) in office 2000-2008.

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How should they reconcile their differences?

>>69798397
Taiwan Independence - NOW!

>>69796936
And how people intepret them.

Spanish bureacracy is seen as shitty and lazy because of 2012 and siesta even though its far superior to other Med nations.

>>69797058
It was honestly a stupid move. I bet it was done by low level bureacrats who felt like they could please Xi that way.

Ended up getting them punished though.

>self-hating
She considers herself American and sees all East Asians as being pretty much the same. I understand the nuances and she does as well, but when push comes to shove, we both see East Asians much as East Asians see all Europeans.

>>69798397
Accept the status quo and keep WE WUZZING

>>69798442
But anon, it is independent. It is China after all.

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》问有中国人推荐一些小故事
》就笑话跟怀英语我

>>69796960
you must be a hapa. fug, not even white girls with black dudes are that self loathing

>>69798442
That's the opposite of reconciling.

Remember the feeling when the Berlin wall fell uniting the two halves? China would be blessed to reunite the country.

>>69798758
Fancy meme arrows you got there.

Why are CANADIAN yellow fever English teachers so pathetic?
I know this fat Taiwanese with wonky teeth and she started using tinder like two months ago and has already fucked a dozen white guys lmao.
Anyway, she seems to be semi dating this one Canadian dude now and constantly keeps posting BS about him on her instagram. He looks like a beta but she is still like two leagues below him. (She also has HAIR on her TOES)

Is the power of the gookslit truly so strong?

>>69796276
wtf 现在我爱中国

>>69796491
I skimmed through sorry for not reading carefully enough senpai

>>69799452
wtf 現在我討厭瑞典

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>>69799552
Reminder that china hates germany

>>69799104
>She also has HAIR on her TOES
I don't believe this

>>69799670
>killed jews

I think it means they admire us?

>>69799739
Reminder that china loves jews and canucks

http://www.whatsonweibo.com/digital-diplomacy-foreign-embassies-unpopular-weibo/

China always have great outlook for German, undeservedly even

http://www.whatsonweibo.com/china-based-black-man-fed-3-major-things/


China still hates the niggers because of 1989.

>>69801696
Go to bed mr germany

>>69801696
这张片,刚才送我的中国朋友。他不很喜欢。

我想和一个漂亮的中国人的女孩结婚

>>69804286
我也是癞蛤蟆想吃天鹅肉

>>69799997
Did you post the wrong link?

>>69799997

>black in china

kek. china is probably the worst asian country for niggys. they really need to do their research before they come here instead of hopping on a plane

>>69805266
This. Blacks should go to Taiwan or Japan. China is full.

>>69805266
>kek. china is probably the worst asian country for niggys.

Wouldn't that be Indonesia?
I mean, since they are muslims, and they actually punish criminals (according to their own stupid set of laws) - but since niggers are usually criminals, I assumed that would be a terrible country for them.

I've watched 50 episodes of drama and i'm still not fluent ;_;

you got to speak it sometime

>>69806959
neah fuck that

>>69807334
>inb4学外语就要speak more

if you don't use it will be forgotten guaranteed
i always get people who's like oh you are chinese let me write my name in chinese so you can see it in chinese, oh wait fuck how do i write so and so, oh it's okay i forget it was long time ago anyway

so basically you wasted all your time just so you can look the fool, learning a language is hard work, don't worry about all those polylinguals they will have the same problem later on, no one speaks 10 languages on a daily basis

>>69807470
meh i could never speak to people so it's not like I'm losing that

I'm using chinese every day just in other ways. I just have no sense for what sounds correct because I haven't listened enough yet and never really studied grammar.

>>69807594
it's no good doe
you should try to speak it, learning language is more than just an intellectual pursuit, it is very much a biological one

chinese people do not speak like the books either the daily spoken form is very varied between age groups location and situation, so while you can read and watch tv you are just doing yourself a disservice by imposing this handicap

>>69779311
Interesting. I've read another paper from this same researcher, King. It was about what the so-called wumao do. His thesis seems to be that the business of the propaganda office online is primarily discouraging collective action, and not really shaping public opinion.

>>69807676
neah i'm doin okay i just gotta wait a few more months
when my current progress stalls and I can understand most of tv but not other stuff then you'll have a good point

中文好难。
:^(
I hate inferior asians languages

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>>69784203
No. You kys. Russians are better allies than you fake two-faced chinks