Has your country ever been the bad guy in a war?

> Argentina
no

>Albania
no

>Sweden
yea

>Brazil
We never declared a war before of being invaded or attacked. No

>UK
no

>Norway
I don't know, maybe

>>69723843
but you killed 90% of paraguayans or something

>>69723651
You were the bad guys in the first world war

>Turkey
no

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>>69723911
>You were the bad guys in the first world war

>>69723651
no

>restrict your own people from being free enough to declare independence
>Declare war with them, your own people because of it
>NOPE, NEVER BEEN THE BAD GUY

As for Norway, i dunno, we've been too cucked by other nations to have had much power most of the time


>>69723760
At least you've got self criticism, unlike the american

>>69723882
They invaded us first.

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>>69723861
>ignoring the time period between 1775 and 1812

>>69723911
you helped Lenin get to Russia, invaded France, and helped Austria-Hungary in their bullying of Serbia

>Sweden
no

>>69723651
>UK
never

>>69723987
senpai this looks TOO real ree

>>69723942
>Europe is having some disagreements
>Americans roll in and claim victory and end up the strongest afterwards

There's no good guy and bad guy in a war.

>>69724005
lol

>>69724035
The whiter guys are the good once. Finland are always good, then Sweden, Estonia, Norway and Denmark. Baddest are Australians because of abos and subsaharan africans (niggers).

>>69724048
Why aren't you cuckposting in >>69723666 you cuckold vermin.

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>>69724035

>>69723651
I know this is bait but
>war
>bad guy

>Scotland
No

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Spain
Yes

>>69723978
we've always been the good guy
>American revolution: fought Britain for independence
>war of 1812: the Brits were embargoing us
>Mexican-American war: they tried to annex Texas
>Spanish-American war: they had it coming
>WWI: you guys started it
>WWII: Japs attacked us and Nazis declared war on us
>Korea: they tried to invade south Korea
>VIetnam: tried to prevent communism spreading
>Iraq 1: they invaded Kuwait
>Iraq 2: they had it coming

>>69724247

You're missing the war of northern aggression... hmmm...

>Austria
No
>Iraq
No

>>69724247
I agree with your revolution, but i was talking about the Civil war
The Emancipation Proclamation wasn't passed until years after the war had already started, and it specifically says it's meant for "Those states or other areas that are rebellious towards the United States"

It was not about Slavery, and the south should have been allowed to leave

Also, Vietnam was a mess, and iraq only made things worse

>>69724247
>>Spanish-American war
>>VIetnam
Fuck you. Seriously, fuck you.

>>69724778
t. Butthurt Phillicommie

>>69724778
we freed you guys from Spain, you should be thanking me

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>>69723651
>spain
yes

>>69724805
>>69724811
Fuck. You.

>>69723651
>Ireland
no

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No

>>69723651
>France
no

>>69725145
Ceci.

nope.

>Germany
I don't think so

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>>69723987
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS

MOMOMMTB WILL NEVER DO THAT DELET THIS MOMMY IS PURITY SHE WILL NEVER DOO THAT DELET DELET DELET DELET

>Chile

Nope.

eh

>>69724723

You're just falling for the Southerners b8 (that they don't believe themselves) here Norge, slavery was an issue that was batted around and put off for decades simply because the South would get nuts about it at the slightest hint of reasonable discourse on it.

For the first time ever a party that was openly anti-slavery (albeit conservatively, IE let's have a conversation about it's future) was elected and the south illegally decided to say and a bunch of lawmakers jumped the guns, attacked federal property, and invaded northern land.

You also have to realize a large portion of the southern population probably supported the Union, hell around 115-150K+ white men from the South fought for the Union. There's a reason the South had to do brutal conscription in order to boost ranks (kind of conscription where if you didn't show you'd be killed)

And it's also true most Union citizens probably didn't give much of a rat's ass about slaves and certainly wouldn't really die for them, so the timing of the emancipation had to be at a point where the Union was "winning" the war, otherwise it may quickly lose support in the common Union citizen. For the first year or two the South was making great ground, if they had won at Gettysburg they may have gotten to DC and forced an end to the war.

>>69723882
Han shot first.

>>69725753
That bit about only declaring it when winning is interesting, i'll have to do some more research

But the south still should have been allowed to leave, seeing as they did so in democratic ways.
I don't agree with slavery, and i'm glad it ended, but even if slavery was the reason they seceded, i can't believe it was the reason the North wanted them back

>pls come bck, we mst be moraaaal

Also, i doubt either side were prepared to lose several hundred thousand just because the opposite side had differing ideas of morals

>>69726165

It really wasn't democratic though.

Think about it this way, if they actually had a referendum (truly democratic) it probably would have failed in at least two or three states (NC, TN, maybe Louisiana) never mind if they gave slaves a vote it would lose in almost all of them.

The Union had a duty to defend the interest of the United States and it's citizens, including and especially the Unionist still in the South. Even if they were fine with the South leaving, the Union would have a huge border with a contentious country, including having Washington DC in shelling range at all times.

Also I say all of this living in North Carolina.

>>69723651
>Chile
Always

>>69726403
Well, now you're talking in favor of it not being about slavery
Maybe i'm wrong about all this, but Charles Dickens, living at the time, thought it was horrendous too. So that kind'a makes you wonder if the good guys won, or if history was distorted to suit a purpose
I'll admit that i might be biased, since i really think the US is too big, and should be separated into different nations, or at least let the states govern themselves

Besides, even if the south left because of slavery, there is a certain scourge going around, about taking down statues and the likes of Confederate war heroes
They may have lost, and they may have supported something awful, but they were still people, and to just remove statues that have been around for over 100 years in some cases, and hide history like that, because som SJWs are triggered...

That just isn't acceptable in my opinion

>>69723651
How do you lie with such ease?

>>69726834
because it's the truth

>>69726799

>I'll admit that i might be biased, since i really think the US is too big, and should be separated into different nations, or at least let the states govern themselves

There is really little to no significant cultural difference between North Carolina and Massachusetts.

Sure, some different food specialties, accents, sporting interest but nothing culturally. Same thing goes for someone from Florida and someone from Maine.

>>69724277
Sherman did nothing wrong

>Chile
no

>>69726880
>There is really little to no significant cultural difference between North Carolina and Massachusetts.
>Sure, some different food specialties, accents, sporting interest but nothing culturally. Same thing goes for someone from Florida and someone from Maine.
To me it's not about culture, it's because i think the US is so big and too many people that ruling it as one single government will lead to troubles
Rome fell because it grew too big, and communication with all corners took too long.
Sure communication is better today, but USA is also bigger than Rome ever was

If there was less focus on the president, or even each state ruled themselves, the hierarchy wouldn't be so big, and it would be inherently easier to rule

>>69725218
I love understated German humor.

>>69725145
napoleon wars?

>>69723861
I can think of at least twice

This one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Abductions

Just pure pirate faggotry.

>>69723651
>Chile
Yes

You're only the bad guy if you lose :^))))))))))))))))))

>>69728099
not totally wrong

>>69727092
The Peruvians and Bolivians would probably want to have a word with you.

>Lebanon
no

>India

No

>>69728322
This desu I might ensue a disagreement

>>69723911
That was Serbia, or Russia depending on pov

>>69725006
What about a certain insurgency?

>>69723651
This one time, when we were Britain, we went a little too far and burned down some guys house. We're sorry for that. Want to get in on pissing off the Danes with us? It's fun! We go to this island, and drink their schnapps, then replace it with cheap rye.

>>69723651
USA has been the baddest of the bad guys. Expansionist and imperialistic.
>aus
If the US is the baddest of the bad guys then we're certainly bad for participating in so many wars.

have we even been in a war? lol 4 real tho

>>69731007
nigga what
you have plenty of wars

The people deciding who's the bad guy is the people who win wars

>>69730048
What insurgency?

>>69723651
>Italy
No
More specifically:
>Venice
Absolutely NEVER

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post your scoreboard

>>69734198
>iraq war
>win
If the obective was to fuck up the country, then yeah, it was a victory

The Duke of Alba dindu nuffin
and Frundsberg was a sausage-loving Kraut

No Turks ITT
Good.

>>69727356
Mostly defensive wars, we were perfidiously attacked because people hated our liberté.

>>69723651
bad bait

>>69734198
Only a country like USA can put all his wars in a pic

Yes, during Napoleonic wars, 7 years war and Crimean wars

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>Italy
no

>Venice
We defeated the Ottomans all alone, based kebab removing

>>69723716
you have to go back

>>69723651
>India
Yes
>WW2
>forced to side with britcucks

Let's not mention that, shall we? Let history be history and forgotten

>aquafresh
no

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>>69725219

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>netherlands
yes

>>69723651
Turley
No, we have never done evil :DDDDD

>>69737107
now I want some speed reee

>>69734677
So now blacks defending their liberte in Paris

Canada
Yes

>>69737157
NOOO
NOT THE SOUP, YOU MONSTERS

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>>69723651
>UK
no

>>69735661
VERY good post

>Israel
no

>>69734198
autism
how far do you want me to go back? creation of the UK? Creation of the Kingdom of England?

>>69723651
>UK
No

>ireland
nope
never committed a war crime either

>>69737247
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ty7qiAlI2I

NEVER!

>Poland
sure

>>69723987
>the yank actually isn't being ironic like everyone else
U.S has been involved in like, what, 3 wars were they were not the bad guys? And even in WW2 you were the worst of the good guys

>>69723651
flag

we just switched sides when we understood we were in the wrong

>>69723651
No. Russie did nothing wrong.