Is americans being bad at geography just a meme?

>>69705913
no

>>69705982
I mean,they might not know about Europe,but they know about US

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>>69705913
It's very real, I can assure you.

A few games of EU4 will solve all of that.

>>69705913
I'm great at geometry, ask me anything.

>>69706295
Wtf, I had tests in 8th grade where I had to know every country and its capital, are there no geography class in the US ?

>>69706371
that takes it even further, a year of that and you can name almost every province in Europe, let alone countries

>>69706461
Capital of Sri Lanka (not Colombo)

>>69705913
Nope its real. I remember in an /int/ thread a few months ago when a burger asked if Ankara was in Egypt. But look up any other statistics and studies online, showing the extent of:

>American Education

>>69706533
We unironically learn states and their capitals instead. Feel free to bully us/meme us, we deserve it.

>>69706568
Some really long fucking name I can't even spell out without looking it up online.

They don't even teach us about the countries in our own continent (same with Canada). I asked a (Canadian) guy if he'd like to visit Grenada once and he said he didn't know what that was. On the other hand, I've only met one other person (who wasn't actually from the caribs) who knew about St. Lucia, St. Kitts & Nevis(?), St. the other ones and occasionally one or two people who knew what Belize was because they speak English.
I know all the euro countries btw.

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>>69705913
Can't see any reason why they should bother learning names of some, mostly irrelevant, countries miles away from their continent to be quite honest.

>>69706295
>americans consistently labeled sweden as funland
truly our greatest ally

>>69706568
Laos; that sounds Asian.

>>69706761
Because it's dangerous for a democracy with so much influence on the rest of the world to have voters that can't differentiate the Czech Republic and Chechnya

>>69706533
we don't we that, I learnt those myself
we unironically are the americans of europe

>>69706653
We unironically learned the states, capitals and rivers of the United States. The rest of the world, it's capitals and rivers is also taught.
>african countries are my weakspot

>>69705913
No, most Americans are genuinely stupid and often forget there's a whole world outside of North America.

>>69707007
I couldn't grasp the african countries either, their irrelevance is something that was the reason I believe.

>>69707007
You did? Isn't that kind of a massive waste of time? There are like 15 states in America that are relevant by themselves, the rest are pretty much arbitrary lines drawn in the ground.

>>69707116
>15
More like 5, unless you actually care about which foodstuff comes from which state.

>>69707116
If you want to trade with the world, you have to know the world.

>>69707188
>continuously trying to be the Jews of Europe
Why do the Dutch do this?

>>69706295
>Ukraine
>land
Not entirely wrong, in more than one way

>>69707175
The original 13 colonies all have unique history and culture. Plus California and Texas and give and take a few maybes like Florida or Michigan and you have somewhere betweeb 15 and 20 that are really necessary to know if you're a foreigner.

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>>69707251
It's a cultural thing. Also, coffee cost money and papa needs his fix.

>>69707116
>the rest are pretty much arbitrary lines drawn in the ground.
All of your states are squares and it triggers me to no end.

>>69707116
it's called being civilised and general education including geography is a part of it.

>>69707309
Africa also has unique history and culture but that doesn't make them relevant.
Relevant states are: NY, CA, TX, FL (kinda), VA, and MI (between us and Canada).
Maybe ID (potato), HI (history + fruit), KS (sunflowers), WI&VT (cheese), GA (Coke), and AK (fish).

>>69706295
>Glad to see college paid off
This triggers me so much.
Retarded Amerilards will refuse to learn anything and then blame the education system rathee than their shit work ethic.

>>69707457
Okay nobody was saying otherwise, it's just a lot of American states are literally just squares we drew out on a map to divide up the massive unpopulated territory we had bought or conquered from other countries. They're about as relevant as postal codes. I already said that some should be taught.

When I'm abroad I make sure to tell Americans that if global warming keeps its pace, my igloo home in North Vancouver will melt.

>>69707007
We had to label world maps and capitals, then do rivers, states, their capitals, etc. Idk if my school was the exception or the rule though.

>>69707776
kek

>>69707526
Well we just have different approaches to geography. I just think the places that developed organically are more important to learn than Amerisquares just because some of them may have a particular industry. If you were a foreigner you could go your entire life just thinking of those areas generically as "America" and it wouldn't effect your knowledge of this country. Meanwhile learning all the states I just mentioned would allow you to understand our politics and history as a whole much better.

>>69707586
*than Amerisquares that may have a particular industry

>>69707783
It was in the required teachings from the ministry. But you are an honorary Dutchman now in my book.

>>69707863
Meant for
>>69707817

>>69707783
Definitely the exception. What state are you from, that's actually exceptionally good for >American education

>>69707175

>Food isn't important

So boycott it?

>>69707817
I think it's easier to look at regions. Knowing that the great plains produce food is easier than knowing their names, knowing about Dixie Southern culture vs California vs Pacific Northwest, etc is easier than knowing all of those individually.

>amerisquares

>>69707982
I'm part of that group of people who actually care where their food comes from because I work on a chicken farm.
p-please don't boycott food, that's unhealthy...

>>69707968
Oregon

>>69707916
Dank je :3

>>69708018
That's a good compromise desu

>>69708064

Right, so calling food "irrelevant" is quite dumb. That's like saying "well all Russia has is oil, why would Hitler even want to invade them?"

Resources are relevant, especially food and energy. The easiest way to determine whether something is relevant is to remove it and see what collapses.

Hint: it's not Californian films.

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>>69708203
I never called food "irrelevant", I just know that most people don't care about that stuff.

>>69708343
>I just know that most people don't care about that stuff.

People don't care about eating? On what planet?

>>69708203
>be young boy in school
>ask other boy what his father does
>"he sells bullsperm to america"
Didn't ask for details about which states they sold. Didn't ask him anything.

>>69706461
>Geometrics
What's the distance between our capitols if it were a straight line?

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>>69708466

it was me all along

desu I agree with most of the Americans ITT that think our geography education is shit

But, at the same time I think it's your country's responsibility to make itself a part of foreigners lives with an industry, product, or cultural output such as music or films and give them a reason to know you, not their respinsibility to know where you are and who you are on the globe just because you exist.

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Who would Americans want to know irrelevant Yuropoor """"countries""""

>>69706761
>sucking the burger cuck
>miles
>flag
why am I not surprised?

>Americans don't know Guam that's an important geopolitical place

>>69705913
Alabamians have the worst humor.

>>69708696
To know if a flag is rare.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW9Va9082o8

>>69706295
>Literally no idea, sorry.
D'aww, americans are such kind and good-hearted people.

>>69706461
tell me a theorem on isoceles triangles

>>69708587
That's a pretty level-headed way of looking at it. It's a two way street, you need to fix your fucking schools and Europeans need to start giving people a reason to know about them instead of just demanding they do.

A good example is Finland. There is literally not a single reason for anybody to care about them irl but even the most geographically retarded people on 4chan know where they are, who they are, their capital, and have a decent overview of their history. All because their internet culture is so entertaining.

>>69705913
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mWtWz_aGyk

(G)old

>>69705913
It's very bad among chads and stacies

Only nerds or travellers know geography well.

Knowledge of geography also depends on relevance, immediate neighbors aside. Britain and France would be the best known countries, whilst the balkans, africa and stans among the least known

The extent of my school knowledge about geography was like 1 start of the lesson work sheet we did once. I learnt everything about geography and culture through personal interest/ pop culture

>>69705913
Shut up Romania

>>69706371
>tfw war games as a kid are the only reason I know geography as well as I do

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You tell me.

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>>69708977
We have the world's largest hydraulic container crane.

u mad?

>>69711395
why do they do this, too lazy to use wikipedia?

>>69711452
There is a Tripoli in Lebanon too

No.

t. Lived there

Although we're not that much better here. Same with the rest of the world

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>>69705913
no

>>69708570
>tfw don't know how to measure a distance on a sphere

>>69706535
>tfw learns all the islands of SE Asia thanks to EU4 and all the provinces of china thanks to HoI4

>>69711527
how the fuck do you get nigeria wrong
angola and mauritania are easy aswell
odd how you only got 1 central asian country wrong; you might confuse kyrgyzstan and tajikistan, but if you know anything about who the tajiks are or what they speak, it's obvious - they speak (a) Persian (language), so they are the ones next to afghanistan.
the rest of the central asian countries are turkic peoples

>>69706295
tbf my knowledge of us states would be similar to this

>>69711977
Never cared to learn African geography. Their nations aren't relevant and there's just too many of them.

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>>69711977

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>>69711977

>>69711977
South Africa and Egypt are the only two countries I can name in Africa without guessing.

>>69708587
Don't feed the bait

>>69712268
Oh and Madagascar.

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>>69705913
cough cough

>>69711977
PISA 2015

most americans cant even place all the states on a map. the average american cant even name more than a dozen state capitals either

and as far as americans are concerned, everything south of them is mexico, everything east of germany is russia, and south east asia is just china

they do have a pretty good understanding of the middle east i admit

>>69708977
finland is relevant the same way the rest of scandinavia is

>>69711977

Staggering autism

Bravo Eesti

>>69712554
the rest of scandinavia isn't relevant though, I'm not sure what point you're trying to make

>>69712404
>all of europe and asia becomes a subtle czech republic

Hmm...

>>69707039
>their irrelevance is something that was the reason I believe.

This is how Americans feel about the rest of the world, except maybe England

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>>69712404
I added a few more countries that I remembered exist. Am I missing any others?

>>69712540
>they do have a pretty good understanding of the middle east i admit

Know your enemy

>>69708977
i only know their capital because that black girl won the award

i only know norway's capital because shootings

don't know denmarks capital- wait is it copenhagan?


definitely couldnt say the capitals of the baltic countries or any slavic nattion except krawkaw poland

>>69712762
in the way it is seen as a progressive utopia.
finland has some of the best education and social policies around

>>69712995
>Phil
quit trolling, nigga

you bad at it

>>69713153
Not enough space to write 'the phillipines'

the USA is basically the greatest nation on this whole planet
why would they bother to learn all the irrelevant other """"""""nations""""""""

>>69707526
If NC is not relevant why is it constantly on the news

>>69713299
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1mlCPMYtPk

>>69706295
Funny, spain was never mistaken.
I'm actually surprised we weren't a mexico state to them.

>>69705913
I can't find Albania on a map despite browsing this shitty board for years so the meme is probably true

>>69713509
spain is the most relevant european country

they know who conquered them dont believe otherwise

>>69713550
albania is an irrelevant shithole
not even the majority of europeans know where it is, so don't feel too bad about it

>>69705913
>Bad at geography

They forget to geograph their bodies too lmao

>>69712540
I always forget where Missouri is and mix up vermont and New Hampshire when I do those online maps.

>>69705913
Nah, it's all true. I doubt most of us could tell you half of the state capitols, even.

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Geography is a useless skill.

>>69714311
Damn straight my French friendo

>>69706295
>tfw my knowledge is basically this

>>69705913

no

http://www.boredpanda.com/americans-place-european-countries-on-map/

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>>69715276
Thank you, Malaysia.

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>>69706533
>had to learn the states and capitals of another country

CUCКED
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>>69705913
It's the difference in history and education.
In Europe we're taught about all the world's history and countries because we had an effect on them or helped them exist.
Maybe if US's hegemony continues another 50 years they'll start doing that too.

>>69705913
Test, disregard.

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>Be American
>No history lessons in national curriculum

"""education"""""""

>>69715922
This. It's a pretty clever reasoning.
>have a grill
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>>69715779
>being proud of your ignorance

>>69706856
wrong kind of asian

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>>69716218
forget the pic

>>69716222
is it surprising that americans are actually ignorant and borderline retarded?

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>>69716297
>AIDStonia
>thinks we care about his opinion

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oh boy, time to bust out my favorite propaganda

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>mfw good at geography
>mfw friends make fun of me and call me weird
>"who needs to know where Lithuania is? who even cares about Lithuania"

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>>69716357
cared enough to reply. Check mate retard

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>>69716528
Why does Estonia have an Africa-tier prevalence for HIV/AIDS?

>>69715576
Right back at ya, Russa

>>69716671
You're alright, Liberia.

>>69716528
Beautiful

>>69705913
Sadly, no. There are Americans who probably are unaware your country exists.

>>69716746
You're pretty cool yourself, Croatia

>>69716671
>>69716746
>Luxemburg befriending Chile at an alarmingly fast rate
Something tells me I, Chad, ought to keep a close eye on this.

>>69716940
Fuck off Slovenia! You can't stop me from befriending Serbia!

>>69717043
Fucking hell Cuba, no one tells a Romanian such as myself what he should or shouldn't do!

>>69716746
Yo Paraguay, help me tell this >>69717195 Czech to fuck off!

>>69707548
college in america is relaxed as fuck compared to europe.

>>69707407
My state is a hand, faggot

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>>69705913

http://lizardpoint.com/geography/usa-quiz.php
for you eurokeks who say we're bad at geography need to try the States

>>69717977
>states are as relevant as independent countries
do you know the different provinces of spain or france?

>>69706295
>just a meme?
>no
>posts the same meme map

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>>69717977
We're not that bad regarding US geography as Europeans

>>69706295
I was in Honors/AP history so I'm pretty good at geography.

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>>69718599
they almost are since we let them keep a lot of separate laws and some can match a developed country for GDP

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We aren't the best, but we aren't the worst either.

>>69723421
dang
but still, you wouldnt get offended if a foreigner cant locate a state right?
like, i know new york and washington are east coast, and i think florida is the penis thing on the right and california is in the west

>>69723531
>you wouldnt get offended if a foreigner cant locate a state right?
no, i couldn't care less

In my experience, public schools don't teach anything that isn't American. U.S. history is the study of domestic American history. World history is the study of what the U.S. has done abroad.

My shit education seems pretty typical as my extended family who live in New England, the Midwest and Florida give an impression of ignorance similar to what my high school peers gave me.

Then again, I grew up around wholesale retards. Shakespeare was most exotic topic my high school explored. Girl asked, "how do we know these things actually happened," when we were reading Macbeth. She also burst out laughing when we looked at the geography of Britain to get a sense of the plays setting. The country of Wales has a funny name according to her. She was 18 at the time.

>>69705913
No

>>69717616
Depends on where you go. Some colleges kick your ass straight to the curb if you so much as skip a class.

>>69723255
curious, which states did you get wrong?

>>69705913
It took me over three years of college before I realized that Delaware was a state.I don't know even know all 50 states let alone all of the countries in Europe. I usually have a general idea where they are but there is no way I can name all of them.

>>69717616
Engineering, science and math are intense. Everything else is easy bullshit.

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>>69706295
>studied the nations of the world during down time for years
>mfw I get lumped in with these dumbfucks because of national stereotypes.

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>roommate drags me to his friends dorm to hang out
>notice she has a bunch of flags on her wall
>ask if those are all flags of countries she's been to
>she says yes and asks me to name them all
>I get all of them right except some Caribbean one
>she thinks I'm some savant now

If most Chileans knew Spanish you will see how bad people here is at it.

>>69725596
English*

>>69705913
no, everyone, and i really mean everyone, at my high school was absolutely ass at geography. even the teachers. it was kinda funny
>>69706761
because these dumbasses will rant on and on about finnish education and how superior it is to american education but they can't even point to them on a map.

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>>69717977

>>69705913
Most Americans I met in the USA thought that El Salvador was inside the USA.

>>69725596
>If most Chileans knew Spanish...
A man can dream, Anon, a man can dream...

>>69725712
No way, we know El Salvador is in South America.

>>69725677
the High School I went to taught geography intensely.
We had to memorize every european and Asian nation in History as well as every german state in both English and German in German 1.

>>69725712
>El Salvador was inside the USA

this is true

jesus christ, the savior, did visit america

t. mormon

>>69717616
>"college in america"
>the college in america
>literally just one and it is relaxed

>>69725806
damn, public or private? which state? back in CA, I went to public, but we were kind of jewish and would accept out of district students who would raise our test scores. lots of chinks and some mexicans who were good at football. we were always competitive and very prideful about the honors/advanced/ap programs. most of the kids were idiots though. AP classes were a joke and some of the retards in my history classes were astonishing. not a bad school tho

Seriously someone had to memorize countries and their capitals in school? Nobody does that here. Educated Russians can probably find "well known" countries, like Germany or France etc. But I doubt the average Russian can find even 10 or so european countries. Face it, most people are dumb everywhere. Don't let autistists on /int/ convince you otherwise.

>>69725895
Public in the state of Virginia.
I don't know if they still teach that way now days but it they did when I attended.

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>>69725323
>It took me over three years of college before I realized that Delaware was a state.

>>69712995
Holy shit, I didn't know Philadelphia was that close to billabong worl

>>69717616
Then why is our colleges more prestigious and degrees from them worth more?

Genuinely asking

>>69725971
Texas public here

Learned more spanish than english there.

>>69725942
The funny thing is, In middle school we had more intense geography than we did in high school.

Most of our class got everything right except for shithole Africa and SEA.

>>69726045
>our colleges more prestigious
Your universities are very prestigious.
>degrees from them worth more
They don't. At least not in europe.

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All the world's a meme.

>>69726070
As far as I can remember we didn't do any quizzes at all. I mean you could memorize some cunts while staring at those maps if you are curious but other than it was just a study of random shit about the world, like oceans, rivers, mountains, etc.

>>69725573

>tfw did this at a bar with some college qts
>I only knew them because of /int/

>>69726227
i still confuse cz and flips

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>>69725573
>Quiz at the golf club
>Whole section is describing flags and you have to guess the country
>Get them all, including the difference between Andorra, Chad, Moldova and Romania
>Anon, How do you know so much about flags?

>>69705913
The average American is shit at it.
Most Americans on here you will likely find to be very good though.

>>69726284
ireland/italy too

it helps that most italian posters are memelords

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the only states i am 100% sure where they are the ones in white, the rest are either too small,or rook the same, or simply doesnt have any information that sticked to my head

>>69726913
>Knows 100% where North Dakota is but not south Dakota
You got all the important ones. No one can name the square states.

>>69726913
>Knows Arizona
>none of the other four corners states
Take that New Mexico

>>69705913
>Albania
mcfucking kill yourself, you filthy subhuman

>>69727183
i just find arizona very based
would probably live there

>>69727257
good taste

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>>69727257
Nice

>>69708435
he means that most people don't give two shits about exactly where the United States gets all its wheat or rice.
Just like most people don't care about Iowa.

>>69706295
I mean I could probably accurately place and name only about 5 American states so, it's not a big deal.

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Uh... I did good, right?

>>69729636
chechnya is not right, it's Moldova
and holland is not a country

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>>69725448
>teacher calls on dumb stacy bitch
>"OK Stacy, can you point out South Africa for me?"
>she points to Madagascar
>chooses Chad
>"Where is Afghanistan?"
>Chad chooses Serbia
>internallyscreeching.png

>>69729753
>and holland is not a country
I ran out of space for "The Netherlands". Sue me.

>>69727417
Yeah but states aren't countries.

Arkansas and North Dakota don't make international news headlines

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Holy fuck

I set a rule that I'm not gonna look at a map until I'm done

Haven't put the Netherlands on there for some reason

Forgetting a lot of Southeast Euro and North African countries. I know I can get Morocco. Totally forgot whatever's in the middle of the middle east. Some of the proportions might not be totally right? Will have to put Taiwan and Japan on the map.

Then the captions. Egh. Probably will put it in a new thread.

>>69730771
Oh and I have to draw the Caribbean. This is a hell of a lot of work for a mene

>>69730787
Anyways what I learned is this is harder if you have to remember 180+ tiny states. Not even gonna start with the little tiny central American states/Pacific Islands. Might put Uruguay on there.

>>69705913

Yes and no. Europeans just think knowing Europe + a couple of big countries in the world makes them knowledgeable.

The average European doesn't know the location of most US states, just like the average American doesn't know the location of most European countries.

>>69730787
>This is a hell of a lot of work for a meme

it's almost impressive desu

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>>69729636
>chechnya

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>>69730914
Added more labels
(this is my autism project while classes ramp up)

>>69706986
Russians are the Americans of Europe.

OOGA BOOGA

>>69729636
>Chechnya
My sides

>>69723421
>sees your map
CUBA LIBRE!

>>69729636
>>69729896
You'll hear from my lawyer.

>>69716193

History is not important. Nothing negative has ever arisen from people not knowing what happened in the past. There are no real world applications of history or geography.

>>69733383
either bait or pure distilled autism

>>69705913
yes

>>69705913
A friend of mine, who is in graduate school, thought that New Hampshire was south of Massachusetts. She is from Massachusetts and was in New Hampshire when she said that.

She also thought that Alaska was an island, because it looks that way in maps of the US.

Another friend of mine who is in a different graduate school program thought that Brazil was in Africa.

So yes, Americans are fucking retarded at geography, at every level of education.

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>>69723421
But they don't have separate foreign policies, so their relevance for a foreigner is literally the same as relevance of some random province of a random country.

>>69733601
¿por que no los dos?

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>>69729896
>>69729753
>tfw Neatherlands is literally called Holandia in Polish

>>69734160
depends on your cunt and your business, I suppose

if you buy soybeans from the U.S., Iowa is probably more relevant to you than Lombardy

>>69711429
Looks like overkill for that task

>>69705913
No

>>69723421
The only reason American has any wealth/value at all is because it is mostly propped up by foreign investment. If they liquidated their holdings in American companies, your nation would go to shit within days. It would be like the recent housing crash but a hundred times worse.
I don't know if it's arrogance with Americans or just ignorance of the real world.

>>69717977
It's funny, Australia is almost as large as America but has fuck all states by comparison:
http://lizardpoint.com/geography/australia-quiz.php
There are obvious historical and geographical reasons behind this, but for the sake of size comparison it's generally amusing.
From the geographical comparison, it would kind of be like stretching the Nevada desert and all the way across to the far right side of Tennessee while pulling it as far north as Montana and as far south as Oklahoma. Travelling through the USA is so weird in that within a couple of hours the climate can be completely different.

>>69734814
Probably saves them millions of dollars a year in efficient processing.

>>69711452
Probing, subtle ways of testing how much bullshit Americans will believe in thier news but in a way that doesn't seem threattening if people catch on.

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>>69732874
nope fat, dumb and monolingual, definitely us

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Still forget where Kansas is tho

>>69705913
I wouldn't even know all the states in my country half the time

>>69711977
is Africa of any relevance or importance?

>>69706533
most of our "social studies" (history, geography, civics, etc.) concern America while the rest of the world is lumped into "World history"

most of said world history is just European history anyway

>>69717616
>>69726045

colleges don't give a damn about liberal arts but STEM is where they pour their money and effort into

>>69709044
That's not particular to the USA. The general public don't care about these things. If you do an interview like that in any other country you'd probably get similar answers. People want to know what's happening with Kim Kardashian or some other stupid useless celebrity, people want to know that fucking Queen Elizabeth has a flu and couldn't go to a fucking Christmas party (yes, I saw something like that on the first page of some news websites), people want to watch the lip sync competition, the celebrities dancing on fucking ice.
People enjoy being dumb. Maybe they're right. Knowing the shit that happens around the world makes us feel bad for living in such a horrible place, thus It's better to just pretend that none of that exists or, if it exists, it happens far away from where we live.

>>69705913
Nope, but Anglos in general are terrible

>>69713509
Many Americans are Hispanic, so it's not really a surprise

>>69725708
How did you fuck up the easiest ones?¿?¿?¿

>>69726913
>doesn't know the most relevant and historic coast
M8....