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Are immigrants natural cowards?

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Since this is a right wing board, let's be real - it takes a certain kind of coward to immigrate to another country

So are immigrants cowards?
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>since this is a right wing
No thanks
I'm radical centrist
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>hurr durr the USA is full of cowards then

Different circumstance, idiots.
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>>69527582
>right wing
cringed. please go back to your political ifunny account.
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>>69527582
Well, We can see this from two sides. Is it coward to escape from your country and not to try to improve the general situation? Is it brave to leave your homeland and go to a foreigner country for having a better future?; By me It depends on the inmigrant.
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>>69527764
>. Is it coward to escape from your country and not to try to improve the general situation?

That's the very definition of cowardice
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>right wing board
>>>/pol/
The concept of nation states is completely outdated in today's world. I don't feel a stronger connection to Norway than I do to the US or Australia.
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>man who rots in some shithole never doing anyhting to improve his life besides occasional complaining
Hero!
>man who goes to some strange foreign land in a most likely doomed attemp to improve his life
What a coward!
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>>69527961
Enjoying all the """"refugees"""" in Scandinavia? They're cowards

Men, women and children. Instead of dying in Syria honorably, they push their problems on us.
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This means the US consists of a clear majority of cowards?
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>>69527961
>The concept of nation states is completely outdated in today's world
For you.

For you and many people it's that way. But to me and also many people, we feel something about about our own countries. Don't speak for everyone you faggot piece of fucking rotten fish
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>>69528019
Honestly, most of the countries in Middle east are artificial nations that were created by the great colonial empires after the ending of colonization.
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>>69527582
Then every country in the western hemisphere was founded by cowards.
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>>69528098
My ancestors weren't fleeing from anything in Europe, you stupid fuck.

They built this nation out of nothing.

>>69528148
So why don't they die for it? Some things are worth more than life
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>>69527582
so america is a country of cowards?
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>>69528194
Native American here. What are you talking about?
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>>69528188
M8, Dying for an artificial country that was created by the baguettes and the enternal anglos is not really worth more than life.
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if cowardice means pic rel, then I'd gladly be one
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>>69528019
I wouldn't want to die, and I have complete understanding for their disinclination to die.
Dying in Syria would be a pointless death. You either fight for a brutal dictator who has willingly killed civilians, or you fight for he islamists who willingly slaughter civilians. Nobody in Syria cares about the laws of war. There is no honor in Syria.

And that you want children who have absolutely no stake in the war to just stay and meet an "honourable death" is honestly laughable. We have the means to care for them, so why shouldn't we?
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>>69528310
Americans dream about dying in service of their nation, they can't really understand why somebody else might not feel the same patriotic fervour.
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>>69528341
Because its not our fucking problem

Why do you have sympathy for complete strangers who don't speak your language nor care if YOU live or die?
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>>69528300
so you're not coward but a cuck?
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>>69528313
Trump is going to change that, thankfully

America for the Americans.
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>>69528468
b-but his grandfather immigrated from germany
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>>69528019
>Instead of dying in Syria honorably, they push their problems on us
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>>69528387
They dont really think in that way, it is only a meme. There is a motto in Spanish that perfectly describes what I want to tell you. "Perro ladrador poco mordedor" . He is talking much about dying in a honorable cause but I am 100% sure that He would think more than three times if He were in a real war.
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>>69528468
So you would rather America be poorer by getting rid of foreign investment? Doesn't sound very patriotic to me.
>>69528521
His mother immigrated from Scotland.
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>>69528387
>Americans dream about dying in service of their nation
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>>69528605
I served in Iraq. I do know what real war is like.

I had no inkling of running away from America
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>>69528111
Have you accomplished so little? Are so you useless that you need to support some archaic remnant of the past in order to feel a semblance of belonging or identity? Can't you stand up for yourself as an individual like everybody else?

>>69528397
No, it's not our problem. But we have the means to help, so why shouldn't we? I feel sympathy for people who are in a bad situation, regardless of what language they speak or which skin color they have. What makes a Syrian I've never met different from a Norwegian I've never met? Very little. I probably have more in common with a lot of Syrians than I do with a lot of Norwegians.

And I'm sure they wouldn't want me to die either. I think it's human nature.
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>>69528686
Proofs pls
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>>69528686
>the strongest nation in the world bullying a third world nation with a gdp less than a 1/3th of Belgium
>real war
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>>69527582
I moved across the country and just that change was a little scary. Immigration is brave.
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>>69528768
Thew bullet doesn't care abotu wage ofg guy who shot it or its target's.
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>>69528848
The only non-racist thing in this world are the bullets.
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>>69527582
If a person comes to work and live there because his company assigned him, is he a coward? What would you do if you live in a shitty country and want to provide for your family? Also I bet a lot of euros are not against simply experiencing life in another country
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>>69528848
Yes it does. Wars are won with money. That has always been the case.
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>>69528899
forgot to say all of it has nothing to do with cowardice
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>>69527582
France is doomed and will become a muslim shithole by the year 2050 (I predict a muzzie president in 2033). Since for 1 guy I can redpill, 3 others get bluepilled all hope is lost. I despise my countrym8s fot being such stupid cunts that keep complaining but voting for jews. Does it make me a coward if I leave for an actual non cucked country to raise my family ?
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>>69528969
>an actual non cucked [sic] country
Which country would that be? And why would they accept you?
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>>69529062
Not him, but:

1. Any country without Arabs
2. Because I am rich
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>>69529062
Because I'm educated, got money, can work, white (but not by /int/ standards) and with a conservtive white gf that also despise brown people.
This country is fucked to oblivion with no redemption path, no way I'm staying to pay for those niggers.
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>>69528893
True, they are merely homphobic

Dress like a faggot in a firefight to avoid geting shot.
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>>69529189
Some east asian country like Japon or South korea where the muslims are a very little minority.
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>>69529250
Try Singapore
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>>69527582
> So are immigrants cowards?
Nope
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>>69529273
kek
>>69529333
Singapore is full of Muzzies.
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>>69529273
Brilliant.
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>>69529189
Ok. This I can accept.

>>69529250
But you'd be a different race than the local population. Don't you think that's kind of hypocritical?

>>69529333
>40% foreigners
>14% muslims
>virtually impossible to drive around
>no countryside
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>>69529560
Depends which country you land. Also I don't mind blacks or sandniggerd that integrate, work and actually feel patriotic in France but they represent less than 1% of niggers.
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>>69527961
>paying taxes to some niggers rape your race

Cuck.
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Not going to read all the idiotic posts ITT but

it takes a lot balls to leave everything you know and love to move to a foreign land. Think about it, would you have the guts to do it?
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so since, USA was founded by immigrants

does this explain why it so full of cowards unwilling to revolt against their jewish masters?
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>>69527582
t. immigrant
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>>69527582
Sorry to dissapoint amerishart, I'm left wing.
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>>69530388
Running away takes balls?

Wow, I learn something new everyday
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>Since this is a right wing board,
hahaha lmao
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>>69530481
Most of us would die before leaving the United States.

Sorry your country is full of cowards and they leave to Germany, France and the UK

America has been through much worse than Poland has as well.
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>>69527582

So I'm a coward because I studied my ass off and learned english to get into a good college overseas rather than staying here to study at a shitty one?

Fuck you.
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Home of the BRRrrrrrrrrrttraaaaaaaappppppppppp
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>>69527582
>right wing
I'm a centrist.
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>>69531045
Poles work in France for summer jobs but don't immigrate here. They're not that stupid
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>>69528707
You fail to realise what it really is, I'm not saying I'm proud of being born in Brazil, I'm saying I AM brazilian. Not something one can earn or have, like in citizenship, but to be from these lands os something bond to me for all my life, the same way you'll be Norwegian or whatever the fuck you are.

It's not about achievements, but it's simply who we are. I feel like it'd be ungrateful of me to not be proud of what my ancestors did.

And who said nationality is something that dictates entirely what you are? Nor does religion, race, wealth. Everyone's different.

And go fuck yourself saying "archaic remnant of the past", go back to fucking reddit or the hell you came from
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OP is a pussyass nigga

Sage on all fronts
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>>69531045

lol your "country" isnt even a country itself.

it's like a concentration camp of idiots all slaving away for their jewish factory owners
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So your ancestors were cowards?

>inb4 : "different circumstance, idiots."
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>>69527582
OP do you use interpals?
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>>69529560
The "countryside" of Singapore is... the surrounding countries.

It's easy to go.
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>Since this is a right wing board

Memes.
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>>69531239
damn, go based brazil
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>>69531239
Weren't your ancestors immigrants? Are you basing your nationality on the fact that your ancestors moved to South America less than 200 years ago?
And you're criticising present-day migrants for leaving their country. You don't see that as a slight incongruity?
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But Richard Lynn told me that only high IQ people immigrate anywhere.
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>>69528468
He hasn't said anything against legal immigrants, and it's legal immigrants starting all these wealthy start ups. And why should we have a problem with rich people bringing money into our country and giving us jobs?
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>right wing
>implying /int/ isn't 100% scandinavian-style social democrats who occasionally role play as racists for the lulz
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>>69530814
Having ambition and creating a life for yourself takes balls. Immigrants don't get everything handed to them on a silver platter you know.
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>>69527582
>Since this is a right wing board,
nice try, cletus. this isn't your safe space.
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>>69527961
Trodde alle Quislingene ble stilt til veggs i Akershus Festning jeg.
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>>69532753
Jeg gir ikke bort landet til en fremmed makt. Jeg bare onsker våre nye landsmenn velkommen.
Etterhvert vil de integreres, begynne å betale skatt, innfore nye kulturelle goder (som absolutt er nodvendig, ettersom vi så å si ikke har noen egen kultur), og landet vårt vil berikes når alle lærer å like det nye systemet. Det er ikke innvandrerne som gjor integreringen så problematisk, men kantete hoyre-radikale FrP-tullinger.
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>>69527582
>Since this is a right wing board
>>>/pol/ was the other way
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>>69532275
>less than 200 years ago
Brazil is over 500 years old.
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>>69531239
Holy shit. Got him.
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>>69532625
You're kidding right? Immigrants have more rights in the West than non-immigrants do.
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>>69533850
Not legally.
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>>69528969
>redpill
your country has repeatedly participated and outright started several conflicts that utterly destroyed whatever chance the ME had of nurturing secular countries while your electorate did absolutely nothing and thus doomed its people to a state of perpetual crisis and religious fanaticism, at least the spaniards managed to get their country out of interventionist behaviour
you reap what you sow
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>>69527582
Fuck you fuck, I'm not a coward, Russia is fucking hell, I do not want to live in a country where for the post on this forchan you can go to jail
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>>69527582
You're lucky that you were born in the US but not in fucking ЯUSSIA
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Do people in real life really feel sorry for war refugees? Jesus Christ people are soft nowadays.

I feel absolutely nothing

>>69534298
Then start a revolution and DIE for change. Don't force the rest of us deal with your bullshit because you're scared of dying.
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>>69527737
>Fleeing from poverty and famine
vs.
>Fleeing from poverty and famine caused by war
Totally different circumstances
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>>69534429
Yeah, who were the Puritans fleeing from?

Get the fuck out of here, Swedecuck. I'm glad the US isn't infected with the idea that immigrants are equal to human beings.
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>>69534350
>have your intelligence agencies fuck shit up in practically all central american countries
>leting your private corporation have a say in your foreign relations, including illegal black ops, murder of key figures and creating general unrest
>selling weapons and supplies to waring criminal organizations to preserve the drug money flowing into your cunt
>WAAH WHY DO YOU BRING YOUR PROBLEMS TO US?!?!
retard
in any case, if it bothers you so much, why don't you do something about it?
Or perhaps you are a coward?
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>>69534538
Then die for change.

I don't care how many problems your shithole has, that isn't our problem

What does Joe the Plumber have to do with any of that? Nothing!


When the British were oppressing us, what did we do? Flee? No we fought and 10% of our population was slaughtered for it.

Why can't you do the same?
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>>69534619
>What does Joe the Plumber have to do with any of that? Nothing!

He consents by not demanding his goverment to end its foreign meddling
Your nation IS responsible for either causing or exacerbating the conditions that cause people to flee
Whenever a popular revolt does happen, your country has intervened against it to conserve whatever powers are convenient to your goverment
and yet, your nationalism blinds you to the ills that your country has caused, so yes, it is your problem as much as it is ours, at least until your citizenry demands a cease to your corporate mandated illegal foreign policies and no matter how much you sperg out about it

also your a fag
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>>69527631
>>69527759
>>69527961
>>69530761
>>69530828
>>69531193
>>69532576
>>69532691
>>69533287


>Leftist scum
Day if the Rope when ? Leftists are utter trash that should be sterilized

>>69529791

>I don't mind shitskins
Cuck
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>>69535085
>I'm a retard /pol/tard, pls give me them (you)s
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>>69534844
We're doing something about it by making sure cowardly immigrants such as yourself will never step on US soil without feeling the wrath of the common person.

Die for your country. I almost did.
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>>69527582
"My country" is shit and has zero redeeming qualities, I have to go.
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>>69533083

>Intégration of shitskins

What make you belive anybody sane want to integrate them ? WE don't want them in the first place, my moronic lolberal garbage remember that WE never wanted your shit at anyway point.
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>>69535085
I'm no leftist, I look at a situation and decide with common sense.
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>>69535219
no, you almost died for big oil interests and directly participated in the series of conflicts that created the current migrant crisis in the first place, hilariously making you a wee bit more responsible for the shit you are sperging out about like a retard, but it's ok, you clearly don't understand what responsability is about and are reduced to bitching out on the internet, truly a modern american hero

>the wrath of the common person

lmao, as if it wasn't already too late, judging by the "foreign" demographic growth in your cunt
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>>69535387
So hows that been going in germany so far?
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>>69535380
>literally WE
kek
your electorate says otherwise
kek, even your own ethnic kind wants nothing to do with your lot
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>>69527582
Humans are nomadics.
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>>69535446
Yeah because 9/11 was provoked by something legitimate

See YOUR country get bombed like we did and you not want to do something.

I threaten every single immigrant I see in real life, putting my life in further danger in what I believe in. What do you do?
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>>69535179

>I'm à subhuman from à non country that will be nucked pretty soon n'y Donald Trump, therefore I have to write gibberish on the Internet in order to make people think I'm à civilized person and not a monkey.

I hope the Cartel will behead you to trachée you about shuting down your asshole, please get fucked.
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>>69535541
>I threaten every single immigrant I see in real life, putting my life in further danger in what I believe in

>I not only behave like a sperg on the internet, oh no, this red blooded american ALSO spergs out in public
jajajajajaja
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>>69535563
>nucked pretty soon n'y Donald Trump
Le Pen voters everyone.
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>>69527927
Why the fuck should I waste my life trying to improve a shitty place that can never be particularly good because it's geographic placement practically turns it into an Antarctic research station for parts of the year?!

Supporting this country will only prolong the current regime's existence. What do you think would happen if every productive citizen of Sweden just left?
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>>69535563
woah, someone got mad
I hope you get to find peace under Islam as your coming national religion Piere, it must be terribly lonely being one of the few fashies remaining
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>I threaten every single immigrant I see in real life, putting my life in further danger in what I believe in
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>>69535489

My own ethnics fleed from the shitskin occupied zone à few decades ago, the french people already made there choice and décided they didn't want to live with YOUR kind.

Please get shooted, you know shit about France si fuck you
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>>69527737
>It's only different because I say so!
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>>69535541
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>>69535710
My ancestors (who came off the Mayflower) came here where there was nothing. They had no reason to flee Europe.
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>>69535710
>>69535744
>hey yellow man, can I stay here for a time
>Yes, you can camp there
.....
>Hmmm, are you still here?
>GET OUT OF MAH PROPERTY


No matter how you twist history, you are still an immigrant.
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>>69535541
HAHAHAHA
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>>69535744
If your people were living in the same land for generations and suddenly a man from another continent comes and gives you a paper he wrote himself that claims that land belongs to him, would you consider it fair?

>b-but they had no sense of private property

That's right, because all of them shared the same land as a comunity
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>>69527582
>Since this is a right wing board
Nah m8, sorry.
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>>69532275
>Weren't your ancestors immigrants?
Yes, they were.

>Are you basing your nationality on the fact that your ancestors moved to South America less than 200 years ago?
Yes. I was born and raised here since my ancestors came to Brazil and settled here.

>And you're criticising present-day migrants for leaving their country.
Interesting enough, this isn't even a question. Either way, no, I'm not saying this. Please show me when did I say it. Stop projecting, nigger. Neither did I say anything about the subject of the thread which is about immigrants, nor do I think that way.

You do realise that in not a single reply you had a consistant argument, relying only on fallacies?

Seriously, you may say otherwise if you want, but it's clear to everyone here that you're just a dumb teenager talking about shit you don't know and probably don't care enough. I have a tip for you - lurk more. Not only here, nor /int/, nor the internet, but in life. Stop projecting, making assumptions, blindly defending shit just because you think it's right and opining on anything and everything you see. Lurk more, bitch nigger.
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>>69536350

T H I S
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>>69528188
I'm just gonna guess your great grandparents or grandparents came to the US in the 20th century because that's most likely the case.

Anyway comparing whites that move from one country to another to nigger ''refugees'' is retarded and you should differentiate which you're talking about
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>>69527582
No.
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Not if they are immigrating to a non-welfare state. There's a difference between fleeing to opportunity and fleeing to money.
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When did this board turn so harsh and edgy?
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>>69527582
I kind of agree
Seems many of the migrants in the current crisis are going to Europe because they're looking for the easiest way to live (in developed liberal countries with welfare)
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>>69539398
Are you new
Leafs are probably the edgiest posters on this board, ironically
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>>69539393
Also this.

I want to move to the US to make a living and not having a chunk of my taxes go to paying for the livings of druggies, anime autists and niggers.
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>>69539393
That's pretty arbitrary
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150 years ago when someone immigrated to the US they were given a rifle and a sack of coins and were forced to fight in war. Now they get a bucket of cash each month along with free healthcare and daycare and schooling.
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>>69535541
>What do you do?

laugh at 11/9
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>>69539473
I know unfortunately.
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>>69539569
>and schooling.

How is this bad? I thought you hate iliterate immigrants
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Man I'm happy I served as a Minutemen

I've seen poor idiot immigrants die in the desert. I didn't feel anything for them

Unlike you edgy fucks I did something about it
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>americunt complaining about immigrants
your fucking grand-grandfather came there from europe you dumb shit
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>>69539783
Immigrants are cowards

Why don't they immigrate to the middle of Africa and build a country from scratch like we did?
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I think it is time to rangeban amerigans from this board.
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>>69539697
Did I say that was bad? No I didn't, you dumb spic.
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>>69539818
not sure if you have geography books there but there are already countries in africa
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>>69539818
People please don't answer this guy seriously.
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>>69539818
>like we did
It's most likely your parents came to America in the 20th century.
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>>69539818
You can't really do that at this point unless you're gonna do a coup, there's governments there that will try to kill you if you do that.
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>>69539939
And why should I care if they die? What tangible effect does it have on my life?
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>>69535541
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>>69539783
My great grandfather came here during 1862 and was forced to fight in a war to "free" niggers as soon as he got off the boat, while being treated as bad as a nigger by the Union. After the war he then bought land in the middle of nowhere and created a homestead.
What do immigrants do now?
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>>69539895
Then I assume you were alright when you sayid they get cash and free healthcare
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>>69539818
Good post
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>>69540029
It's not the 1800's anymore dumbshit. You can't buy land for 10 dollars anymore.
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Nah, not really.
Concept of a "coward" you're talking about would only be true if they felt like they have an obligations towards their native land, which lots of immigrants don't. And neither do most of people still living in their native countries.
At this point, no one really cares about countries, empires, crown, shit like that. Everyone just tries to find a place under the sun.
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>>69540164
You're retarded, but land was cheaper back then anyway
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ITT: Coward enablers.

Most Americans hate immigrants. So glad I live here instead of some leftist liberal shilling hellhole.
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>>69540164
Oh really?

http://www.businessinsider.com/detroit-houses-for-1-dollar-2012-2
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>>69540029
>What do immigrants do now?

Many lations join the USA army to become legal cityzens, fatty.
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>>69540291

>60%
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>>69527582
Fuck you I'm a leftie

and they're not as cowardly as the people who pick on them out of some vague sense of grievance, chances are the Mexican who bred your high school crush was a US citizen
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>>69540319
So to become welfare queens? Most US military jobs are easy as fuck and not in combat.
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>>69540296
That's an amazing deal and all, but the downside is that you would being living in Detroit.
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Yes. I'd feel like a coward if I ran away from America, even though it's not a very nice place to live.
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>>69540296
Give me citizenship and one dollar house and I'll move there.
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>>69540554
>America
>not a very nice place to live
Where are you exactly?
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>>69540443

Many of them helped capturing both Osama and Hussein, actually.
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>>69540937
Like who?
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>>69538970
kek
You're the edgy teenager who still clings on to his nation state like it's the early 20th century. Where you're born is just a coincidence. You can feel happy because you were born in a good country. Or you can be bitter because you were born in a shitty country. It is not a personal achievement, though. So it is absolutely not something to be proud about.
Especially if you're born into a massive shithole where people would kill you over a slice of cheese despite being lactose-intolerant jungle-niggers... like Brazil.
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Im apologize for>>69535594
this one >>69535085 >>69535563

We are not all like this
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>>69541091
So your solution is to let those jungle niggers into your country?
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>>69527582
>it takes a certain kind of coward to immigrate to another country
Yeah. America was a mistake.
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>>69541091
>It is not a personal achievement, though.

Mind/body dichtomy is beta leftist feelgood bullshit. You are your body. Your body is entirely determined by your genetic makeup, which is determined by your parrents and the fact that they existed in certain place and time and fucked. Ergo, being born in a good country is personal accomplishment and someting to be proud of.
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>>69527582

No. It would be the same as saying that people from places with no future in their country who move to cities are cowards.

Modern immigration is mostly a phenomenon related to increase in transportation distance and technology.

You can blame the Jews, cucks or whatever, but the reality is that you at some non-trivial point in the future will be able to cover distances of several thousand kilometers within an hour. At that point you will have very little argumentation against free flow of labor.
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>>69528019
Funny how Americans are the first to call refugees cowards for wars their government is responsible for.
How about you have a war on your own soil with guns and tanks before spouting your bullshit, you hypocritical little cunt.
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>>69527582
>Alt-right
>Fascism = Socialism
Eww...
>Far Left Wing
>Communism = Socialism
Disgusting... My ancestors didn't fight for this.
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>>69541269
I'm for open borders, yes. I don't consider Norway "my" country, per se. It's just a piece of the earth's landmass that currently happens to be administered by the Norwegian government.
I believe every person should freely be able to travel and live where they want. It is in a way self-limiting because people wouldn't be able to live in a place where they can't make a living. If the Brazilian learns the local language and is able to find a suitable job in Norway, he should absolutely be able to move here. The same should be true for everyone. And it is possible currently, but it takes a lot of unnecessary paperwork.

We already have freedom of movement with the rest of the EU. And usually only people who can work come. A few resort to begging on the street, but people stopped giving money, so now they don't come anymore. It's self-limiting. It all works out. I'd like it to be like that with the whole world. We just need to get rid of this silly welfare state first.
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>>69528686
>I do know what real war is like.
Nigger please. Drone striking civvies isn't fighting a war. You're more likely to get shot at a school in America than American "soldiers" are in the middle east.
You're a fucking coward paid by the government to wear a stupid uniform and intimidate the locals while your overseers help overthrow the local power.
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>>69535219
You're nothing but a fucking gutless coward using the impression of "patriotism" to obscure your pathetic, barbaric bigotry.
You're probably a braindead christfag as well.
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>>69541855
Tell that to the victims of 9/11 and the 5,000 brave soldiers sent over there who died protecting the US, you stupid faggot.
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Yes. Part of the reason why I cannot stand white Americans or most other Americans who descend from immigrants.
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Depends.
Refugees can be perceived that way, if they are males and they are running away from a war that they started among themselves.

But if someone decides to leave his country for a better life and more opportunities somewhere else, and the country they are leaving behind is not at war or anything like that, then I don't think there is anything wrong with seeking something better. Actually it requires guts and a certain entrepreneurial personality to take that leap and leave everything behind.
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>>69542598

Historically this is true and for immigration to some parts of the world it still is.

But the countries with the most immigration are all countries with extremely expansive welfare systems, so the 'guts' isn't there when you know just existing there will be more beneficial to you than doing everything you can to survive elsewhere.

In general I agree with
>>69541754

The welfare states interferes with the natural order of things, without it I would be completely fine with any level of immigration.
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>>69535641
Every spic should hang.
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I remember months ago this same thread was posted. By a native american as well.

You can check the archives.
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>>69541091
Me again

Look, you're not trying to convince me you're right or your arguments are better. You're just trying to win an internet discussion. And before I continue, my questions aren't rethoric, if you can and if you want, I'd expect you asnwer them.

>You're the edgy teenager
Can you please explain how I am an "edgy" teenager?

>still clings on to his nation state like it's the early 20th century
What has changed from early 20th century and now? At what point being nationalist has begun "old"? And even more, what is wrong with that?

>Where you're born is just a coincidence
Not only born, but also raised. And it isn't a coincidence, since I couldn't be born anywhere else, but from my mother and dad, who lived here when I was born. Are you implying that it's a lottery and there are chances to where I was born? What you're saying is that I could be someone else instead of me, which isn't true. I can only be me.

>It is not a personal achievement
It isn't. I already said that. Why are you saying it again faggot?

>So it is absolutely not something to be proud about.
It is in the sense of respect towards all of my ancestors and people who worked to build the country I'm from.

>Especially if you're born into a massive shithole where people would kill you over a slice of cheese despite being lactose-intolerant jungle-niggers... like Brazil.
Okay, you're just spitting out memes you've heard from a mongolian horse breeding forum.

Again, those questions weren't rethoric, although I don't even know I'm saying this, cause I know you're just going to ignore all of it and blindly reply something which doesn't makes sense like the dumb shit you are.
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>>69543346
>months ago
>It was like two weeks ago

OP's dad must be a white trash who lost his job and blames ilegals boo hoo
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>>69541754
>I'm for open borders

Truly a fucking idiot. Advocating fir cultural and ethnic suicide.

Then again Oslo has already fallen. Now kneel to Mecca Abdul.
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>>69543562
The dumbest white trash in the US still has a higher IQ than Mestizo rapebaby subtrash like you.

You are a stain upon every country you come to.

May the wall be built soon.
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I really cant tell whos trolling anymore

Question for poltards: Have you considered that a person can both not want new immigrants in his land and NOT believe that immigrants are automatically cowards? Just wondering
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>>69543695
Sure thing fatty
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People think Americans are dumb, but master Anglo-Puritan-American baiters like OP always lure people in with skill and cunning, while Euros always post pics of poopy pants, "LOOOL AMERISHARTS LMAOOOO". Americans are truly the most clever desu
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>>69543635
Have you ever been to Oslo? Sure, we eat kebabs, and we don't like Donald Trump. Sometimes we use Arabic expressions, and we do buy most of our meat at the halal butcher, and five times a day we pray to Allah at the local mosque, but that doesn't mean Oslo has somehow fallen to Islamic cultural imperialism. It just means that our country is doing well. And inshallah, it will continue that way forever.
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>>69543695
IQ average of a country is alway 100 dipshit
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>>69543947
Meanwhile the spic majority states in the US are the dumbest. Furthermore you are the fattest nationality here you stupid bean picking cunt.

Now work on building el wallo for 1 peso an hour stupid subhuman rapebaby fuck.
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>>69544031
>I was just pretending to be retard.
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>>69544129
k
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>>69536350
Right on comrade.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwAGw92RHQc
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>>69544226
>>69544315

By your redneck logic, that means Singapore is better than America
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>>69544835
Intelligence allows you to make better plays with the cards you were dealt. Singapore does well in PISA and has high HDI too.
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>>69544129
>IQ average of a country is alway 100 dipshit
You normalise a given statistic depending on the situation.
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>>69544937
Actually, how well and healthy a country can be depends on many, many inside and outside factors, not only the average inteligence of their citizens.
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>>69545304
>t. mexican intellectual
How is what I said in any way contradicting what you said.
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