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/balt/
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/polska/
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>>69445722
/slav/
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>>69445722
nice feet
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Morgenrot, swinja tot.
Škla grochow, zwerjcha knochow.
Šklicka rajsa, zwerjcha šajsa
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>>69445910
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>>69446245
Taccu čsi
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>>69446245
>oggia nash
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>>69446886
They developed their own written language after centuries under Italian rule so that's why it's written like that. In Austria, Slovenes who didn't get Slovene education write like they were writing in German, too
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>>69445602
Less regularity, for example.
SK: Cez prázdniny som bol v Prahe.
CZ: O prázdninách jsem byl v Praze.

In no declension of "Praha" does Slovak change the root word. In Czech, you have the nominative Praha, but locative v Praze, in Slovak v Prahe.

That, and the common Czech vs standard Czech diglossia. In Czech (not Moravian and Silesian, through it is slowly seeping in there) lands, there are big differences in declension endings and some sound changes between colloqual and formal speech. Examples (I give Slovak examples too).

Plural of adjectives endings:
malý lidi, malý ženy, malý města - common Czech
malé lidi, malé ženy, malé města - literary Czech
malí ľudia, malé ženy, malé mestá - standard Slovak

-ý to -ej sound change:
malej dům, mlejn, plejtvat - common Czech
malý dům, mlýn, plýtvat - standard Czech
malý dom, mlyn, plytvať - standard Slovak

Instrumental in plural:
těma dobrejma lidma, ženama, chlapama, městama - common Czech
těmi dobrými lidmi, ženami, chlapci, městy - standard Czech
tými dobrými ľuďmi, ženami, chlapcami, mestami

Basically:
1. The declensions are less regular
2. If you live in Czechia as opposed to Moravia, you inflect words differently in formal speech/writing and common speech.

The reason for this diglossia is that standard Czech is based on old Kralice Bible's speech, but more importantly, these "common Czech" changes are typically Czech in the narrow sense as opposed to Moravian and Silesian and incorporating them into the official norm would force Prague rules on people who do not speak that way.

Slovak, if you discount the traditional dialects, is more unified by comparision.

It should be said this is by no means anything new. Some of the "Common Czech" changes date back to 14-16th centuries.
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>>69445602
*tými dobrými ľuďmi, ženami, chlapcami, mestami
- forgot to write this line is standard Slovak
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/cnab/
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>>69445722
Lithuania ruled teh Slavs
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>>69447489
>malý lidi, malý ženy, malý města - common Czech
>malé lidi, malé ženy, malé města - literary Czech

Das just degenerate. Is Czech doing away with declension and becoming the first analytical Slavic language?
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>>69450369
>Das just degenerate
Not really

>Czech
All East and West Slavic languages

>the first
kek
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>>69446244
BEЛИКИE ПИДEPЫ
fucking kek this has to be a shop
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>>69450369
It still has seven cases so hardly. It has perhaps the hardest declension after Polish. Slovak has also simplified some things, like universal -m ending in all verbs in 1.st person singular.

Besides Bulgarian has become analytical a long time ago.

>>69450736
Some simplification is hardly doing away with declension. Besides all those examples the Slovene cited are in the nominative. Common Czech simplifies gender, not case, lidi is masculine, ženy feminine, města neuter.
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>>69450369
Also, as I said, these changes are ancient. The reason why they are seeping into Moravia is not some law of nature, but TV, press etc. that is supposed to use proper Czech but more and more uses common Prague Czech even in news etc.
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>not having 5 grammatical genders

cmon guys be a little more conservative
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Is Lukashenko based like Putin?
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>>69451024
I do think 7 is too much but why 5?
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>>69451193
three different kinds of male genders for reasons
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>>69451024
>Neuter
>Feminine
>Masculine animate
>Masculine inanimate
>???
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>>69451284
masculine rational, for human beings and things you consider human-like (like horses)
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>>69450736
>>69450963
>>69451022
NEIN NEIN NEIN, it should be mali ljudje, male ženske, mala mesta, don't you people even differentiate tween genders?
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>>69451024
We distinguish gender and animacy categories, first is "rod", second "životnosť". AFAIK animacy is just for masculine gender.
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>>69451167
Even more.
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>his dialect doesn't use nasals

I fucking hate Eastern Poles
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>>69451284
>>69451365
We have different declensions for animate and inanimate masculine nouns (človek - človeka vs. most - mostu), whether they are considered to be genders of their own is just a matter of convention.
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>>69451327
They are distinguished, they just happen to have same endings in nominative plural in pražák-speak (OK, Bohemia-speak) and same endings for neuter and feminine in standard Czech and Slovak. It does not mean we do not distinguish gender at all.
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>>69451024
There's absolutely nothing conservative about it. *baranъ and *vozъ were declined in the same way in Proto-Slavic. The category of animacy was developed later.
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>>69451327
>don't you people even differentiate tween genders
Yes, but not in plural (except for the words oba/obe and dva/dve).
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>>69445694
LUKA BATKA
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>>69451692
>not in plural

baby language
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>>69451490
>>69451324
when we used to do noun analysis in school, one of the categories was rod, and you had to decide whether is was male/feminine/neuter and if it the rod was male, you also had to determine whether is was animate or inanimate, so I just always thought that those are considered as two separate genders
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>>69451227
Oh shit sorry, I misread genders as cases. I guess you count three male genders like we count three male declensions. Apparently, there are four for each of the three genders but we only learned about two male, two female and one neuter declension in school desu
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>>69451745
You're definitely not the one to say that considering that you don't even have free stress in your language
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>to uczucie gdy Polska to najlepszy przyjaciel Ameryki

a wy co biedaki dalej jecie gówno z gipsem w waszych sowieckich gównodziurach
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>>69452014
Zaviduju, suka. Tože hotim družit s Amerikancami.
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>>69452014
If you're such big friends, why do you still need to get a visa to travel to the US?
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>>69451284
>Masculine animate
>Masculine inanimate
>Feminine animate
>Feminine inanimate
>Neuter animate
>Neuter inanimate
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>>69452326
>neuter
>animate
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>>69452374
>dziecko
>zwierzę
>dziewczę
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>>69452519
they all work the same way as słońce or gniazdo
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>>69452326
>counting them as separate genders so you can be a special snowflake and say you've got 6 genders
ueu tip, sure feels good having 12 genders
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>>69452555
Well, not in Russian.

>>69452624
Actually it's not just declension patterns, they also affect adjectives before them. But yeah, that's actually autistic, normally it's just considered a separate category.
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>>69452624
What do Slovenes think about us, anon? Does Russophobia exist?
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>>69453094
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>>69453094
Some were ecstatic when Putin came to Slovenia but most people don't care about Russians. Probably because we never bordered you :^)
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>>69453185
>Yugoslavie
aww, that's so cute
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>>69453205
>Putin came to Slovenia
Putler*
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>>69453609
*Jugoslavije, it's just the genitive singular feminine form in West South Slavic, it's not French or anything
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>>69451324
>rational
the fuck? you mean personal, right?
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>>69451958
>his language doesn't have open syllable structure
top lol
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