/sino/ - China/Chinese thread

>>69407301
Those girls are pretty cute, must mean that Japanese seed remains strong after all these decades.

I hate 就.
I can understand it alright, but really have no idea when to use it when talking/writing myself.

>>69407624
I can't help too much but I think part of the difficulty is that it is 虚词 so it has no real meaning on its own but rather just has tons of grammatical functions that are different.

So I think if you focus on one specific structure at a time like 如果...就... then maybe it is not so hard to understand.

>>69407875
Yeah, I guess. The 如果...就... construction is relatively straightforward though, its function is not as vague as when or not to use 就 for emphasis or instead go for a 是...的... construction.

I think the closest equivalent in English might be "so", as it has about the same function in drawing conclusions and fits a couple of the other constructions as well.

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>>69407301
id bang the right one teebeeahe

>>69408135
>>69408135
>I think the closest equivalent in English might be "so"
That seems surprisingly good actually
but I can't really use shit correctly either

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>>69407301

Put a vat of vinegar in the middle of that pic and you're golden

btw I'm the Spanautist from the other thread

>spent the past year focusing on 中文
>have a Japanese placement test in a few days
Guess I know what I'm doing this weekend

>>69413858
Well at least you can probably do fine on the reading/writing parts

daily reminder:

chink girls don't give a shit about whites anymore. china is already saturated with millions of lame beta english teachers or european sex tourists posing as students or interns. if you want untapped asian pussy paradises, go to vietnam, mongolia, even japan since nobody is going there anymore except for obese weebs.

hot chink girls studying abroad don't venture outside their own social circles or cliques and exclusively have sex with rich tiny dick chink males with ferraris

niggers and shitskins literally don't get pussy in china

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>>69414306

and don't forget this

>>69414306
t. monkey mad he isn't white

>>69407301
2 3 1

2 is super cute

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>>69414306
Just accept that the asian male is finished, you cannot stop the future

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>>69414689
>>69414539

I'm a white expat in asia. that gook is like a 4/10, the type of girl that gook males laugh at you guys for dating. these are the only kind of ugly ass chink girls you'll get in china these days.

The country is saturated with beta faggots like you. Girls think average whites are broke white-skinned english teacher niggers. Srsly, don't come here.

>>69407875

>>69408135
>就
its equiv to "then you must" or just "then" in broken english
> 如果...就
>If ... then

also as a PSA: please do not enter east asia in the hopes you can get a trad gf, go look in Phillipines or thailand, it will end in pain

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>yfw you will never kill and eradicate chink niggers in your lifetime

>yfw you will never take part of a massive invasion of chinkland to murder as many chink insects as you can to keep different asian cultures intact

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>>69414942
>white expat in asia
>not being a beta faggot

>>69415058
It's not about having a gf, it's about having sex

Went to a NYE party in Shanghai with some old classmates. A friend snuck a small bottle of 白酒 into a club we were in and it was hilarious seeing the reactions of people drinking it for the first time.

>>69415874
pls do not bring your disease ridden penis into the country
or penile termination will occur

>>69414306
wtf last time i checked i thought most of the poor areas were still full of ez girls

>>69415058
Meh I'm in academia 70% of people are chinese. I'm not really trying to go for normie golddigger girls

>>69416462
good luck senpai
so as long as both sides of the family are ok with each other it should be fine

>>69416110
ask this fuckin loser >>69415958

I guarantee he didn't get any attention from chink girls, and 90% of the club was thirsty white guys/nigs/other races with their dicks in their hand, 10% rich microdick chinks with Ferarris and McClarens parked outside with their hot chink gfs

My motivation to study a ton every day is starting to drop pretty fast. Maybe I need to just relax and do some occasional italki for a bit

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Is a cute chink of this caliber attainable for a slightly above average white guy?

>>69420375
what's your height

>>69414306
But they have shown interest in me and I'm a poor shitskin

>>69420572
So they're just as shallow as white women

>>69420806
even more, way more if they're as cute as pic related

>>69420375
>Eloise
>cute
kek'd

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>>69421331
Stop being such a homo Zhang

>>69413858
Good luck.

>>69420791

they're just being nice pajeet or jose. ask them to meet up, they'll make an excuse or stop talking to you

Does anyone know somewhere with a good description of the modal particals

>>69414942

So why are you in Cambodia? It's a really terrible country.

>>69422208
唔該

>>69415058
im not leaning chinese for a chinese gf im learning it because i always liked asian cultures.Id rather just marry a qt mexican girl 2bh since im a spic

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大家早安
Good to see that /sino/ is still here after a couple of months of not having time to make it and post myself.

>>69424399
Chinese grammar wiki
https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Main_Page

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>>69407624
就 and 了 are easily the hardest part of Mandarin, much harder than learning characters and getting the tones right to say the least.
>>69407875
This is pretty solid advice.
Sometimes it's pretty counterintuitive. I had been using 不是...就是 for months before I figured out that actually means something different and it's supposed to be 不是...而是. Such cases.

Southern California somehow related juding by the flag.

Why are Asian languages so incoherent?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f9-uCPzxrg

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>>69425345
What do you mean by incoherent and is that really the video you wanted to post?

>>69414419

Thank you for that. It was quite informative.

>>69415058
Who would learn a language for that?

>>69425080
Are you the same guy who used to post in the east asia generals?

>>69425377
he answers your question

>>69425080
Nah,it dies constantly and there isn't a thread most of the time

>>69425598
No. I was the actual Dutch poster who used to post /sino/ a couple of months ago, not the ethnically Chinese one. People didn't believe that about me though and assumed I was a roleplaying Zhang.
>>69425659
好可惜...
>>69425605
The video has a bit of a misleading title then.

>>69425598
Are you the HKer from the East Asia threads who studies computer science and likes Beyond?

>>69425733
>The video has a bit of a misleading title then.
it's just the beginning jesus just hit play

>>69425733
Oh I was mistaken. I don't know who the Chinese Dutch guy is either.
>>69425764
...yes. How did you know?

同是在台南
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Looks like the dealers went up North when Duterte took over.
>>69425786
Reminds me when I checked a Chinese girl's English essay. I wonder if I frustrated the Chinese as much when they checked my writing in their language.

Still kids of Chinese parents usually speak perfect Dutch here, more standard than most Dutch people. I can't say the same thing about Turks and Moroccans.

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>>69426017
That wasn't me.

Look what I found on fecesbook
facebook com/qznews/videos/369126170133460/
This is an outrage. China has been a feminist country since 1949. Why are video shows like this even allowed to be made?

>>69414306
Can I get chink trap instead?

>>69426152
Women should be kept in closed rooms
t. 孔子

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>>69426652
Looks like Fritzl knew his 儒家

>>69421424
>chestless that looks like a trap
Ok anon
Also it's Cheung get it right cunt

>>69426999
I once met a girl from a Japanese family from Macau, she had seven siblings. I can't believe it's not maffia/yakuza. What's your take?

>>69426803
What a good joke.
I laughed.

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>>69429471
My assburger keeps me from seeing if this is a compliment or a sarcastic snark bomb.

>>69407301
I want to learn mandarin and i want to speak it fluently
Is the time I'm going to spend along the way worth it?

>>69429557
That depends on what you expect to gain from it.

Busted a load on a qt3.14 30 year old chink girl today at the factory warehouse. Felt kinda bad because she has a kid and husband at home....

But she literally asked for it.

>>69429682
What are you doing strolling around factory warehouses in China anyway?

>>69429720
Was helping them package boxes and moving containers.

>>69429666
Occupation

>>69429502
It was an honest compliment.
I just worded it in an awkward way.

>>69429843
It's not your fault man. There's just too much sarcasm around. Sometime last year I wanted to tell someone how bad I felt for him for losing his job and I couldn't word it in anyway that didn't sound like an inappropriate sarcastic jab.
>>69429841
Don't do it if it's just for work. If you happen to be really interested it and job opportunities are a nice extra, do it.

>>69407553
more like the surgery seed. i promise you they have it

>>69429906
Honestly,what is chinese humor like?
I read a book about culture that briefly touched on it,but that was written in the 30s so I don't know how accurate would that be.

>>69425834
You're a HKer with perfect written English and you mentioned the East Asia thread so I figured it was you.

>>69407301
I chatted with a Chinese guy a couple of days ago. He claimed that the data saying that Genghis Khan is the ancestor of 0.5% of the Earth's population, and also "I just wanna say I am a honest person as a chinese, but you don't get the truth from what japanese say.".

>>69431952
>ancestor of 0.5% of the Earth's population was fake
Fucked that up.

>>69416843
>McClarens

>>69414306
>mongolia
The spirit of tengri is strong there, they will not take kindly to strangers fucking their women.

>>69407301
>Chinese
>poorman's Japanese

lel
Chinks are ugly.

>>69435544
I think you got that the other way around famerino, Japanese is poorly-digested Chinese

>>69430517
Thank you. Been a bit busy with coursework the last few months so I haven't been on int much. How have you been?

>>69414306
>english teacher is lame and beta meme

>>69414306
whats happening in cambodia?
everyones 'doing volunteer work' there

Is the nasal n final pronounced differently when preceding a vowel initial like in 音乐?

Is it like Japanese where it becomes more of a nasal vowel?

>>69430277
Chinese humor amounts to pointing and laughing at people when they're made to look like idiots to a large audience.

>>69443323
Sounds okay as long as you are not the fool.

>>69414942
Footfriend?
How's the succing going bud.

>>69443323
>>69444108
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCGCW_x5beY
this is a nice example

>>69444573
I forgot there's also 相聲, which is mostly about word jokes and the like.

>>69443323
Now,I just checked in the book and besides what you sad it also mentioned that they sometimes just refuse to take things seriously and act as huge cynics and laugh at you when you do take things seriously.

>>69444851
this is true
my dad was a major ass in this regard

>>69439275
You can get away with pronouncing every singe 'n' at the end of a syllable as a nasal sound.

>>69407553
Japs kill what they fuck

>>69426152
I feel so bad for actually wanting to watch this show.

Can someone explain to me in what contexts 确实 and 肯定 are used?

For example, if I wanted to say "OP is definitely a dumbass", would I say “楼主确实是一个傻逼” or “楼主肯定是一个傻逼”?

Furthermore, what words exactly represent "definitely" in Chinese? I know 一定 means "definitely" in a future sense; for example, I know "Trump will definitely make America great again" is “川普一定会让美国再次伟大”. But I'm not sure what word to use in other contexts.

>>69414419
Ya know, does anyone else think that this guy is a fucking pussy? I've met plenty of foreigners who have done business in China for years, and none of them were as bitter as this guy. And when I read other stories about doing business in China, they'll describe times when they wanted to pull their hair out, but they still stay in China.

It also seems like he had such a bad experience cause he was working in the steel-sector, which is pretty much all SOEs. I feel like if he was working in a sector more dominated by private companies, like say the tech sector in Shenzhen, he probably wouldn't be as bitter.

>tfw no chink gf

>>69425061
>im not leaning chinese for a chinese gf im learning it because i always liked asian cultures.

This. I'm sick of being lumped into the sexpat category just because I'm a white guy in China.

>>69430277
>>69443323
>>69444108
>>69444573
>>69444803
>>69444851

As has been mentioned, China has a form of comedy called "crosstalk" (相声 or xiangsheng). It usually involves two comedians, and the closest equivalent in English would be routines like Abbott and Costello's "Who's on First?".

Unfortunately, the jokes nowadays are far too tame. It used to be full of dirty jokes and dark humor, along with biting commentary on current events, but the Communist Party killed all that with censorship.
http://www.danwei.org/tv/stifled_laughter_how_the_commu.php

Some jokes that can be performed in public are still pretty funny though. Here's one by Dashan, a Canadian comedian who speaks perfect Chinese.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iailMSUVenA

>>69446894
I can't explain it very well, but I'd go for 肯定.
>>69446314
Just take a look man. Chinese aunties on TV are the most vicious dragon ladies you'll ever see.

>>69447667
That's pretty nice.
You touched on censorship of humor by the government. Is the government or its ideology ever the subject of the deeply cynical kind of joke that has been mentioned here?

>>69447667
>(相声 or xiangsheng). It usually involves two comedians, and the closest equivalent in English would be routines like Abbott and Costello's "Who's on First?".
so it's basically manzai?

>>69449914
not him but maybe 确实 is like "Definitely (will happen)" and一定/肯定 is more like "definitely true now"?

>>69450260
It's pretty similar for sure.
>>69450343
All three can mean definitely (will happen).

http://91szmm.com/

any of you guys ever used this?

>>69450444
You can also just go to one of those obviously fake hair saloons if you really want to visit prostitutes.

Chinese-American here, are you guys actually not Chinese? I have no idea why any Westerner would be interested in contemporary Chinese culture, especially when China is still mostly third-world status and ruled by commies.

At least Japan and SK have Western puppet master-friendly entertainment like anime and K-pop. What do you guys even like about China? Is it all a meme?

>>69450971
>are you guys actually not Chinese?
Some are, some or not.
People learn Chinese for the challenge, the ancient culture, loved ones or the percieved business benefits of it. Language learning isn't all about pop culture and booism.

>>69451058
Thanks, that makes more sense.

>Language learning isn't all about pop culture and booism.

For the millenials I know, pop culture is the ultimate representation of a country. So much so that I don't think people of my generation think of North Koreans as actually Korean, because everyone knows that Koreans all have dyed blonde hair and eyelid surgery.

>>69414419
t. muh anecdotes

>>69450971

I like the ancient culture but am also intrigued by the communist uprising. Overall it just seems China has more character. I also don't give a shit about anime and K-pop, makes me actively dislike those countries.

>>69450971
I am Chinese too, don't be self hating if you have never been to China

>>69450971
What's not to like about Chinese music?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fco83e124FE

>>69452092
sauce

>>69451325
>people of my generation think of North Koreans as actually Korean, because everyone knows that Koreans all have dyed blonde hair and eyelid surgery.
Well damn, I hope that's an overstatement.
>>69452092
I think the whole raceplay meme has got to goo. Cuckoldry as well as this. It was never funny and plays right into the hands of actual racists you try to piss off.

>>69452202
>Chinese music
In that case I'm going to have to plug my sister into this thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxuFuVS3zfI

>>69450971
We're coming for your qts

>>69452304
https://www.instagram.com/p/BOPenj1hWbB

You have been confirmed for fat Chink with shitty haircut wearing adidas jackets.

Also, I enjoy that she caters to the foot lovers. This is going straight to my masturbation folder.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BMiaJf4h7hF

Also doubtful of your claim, some sort of proof will have to be provided or your license to post in /sino/ will be revoked.

>>69452304
Is she deliberately singing with sort of an English accent, or is that just the sound of Taiwanese Mandarin? Jay Chou does the same thing.

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>>69444187
>>69452092

>>69452694
It's mostly a mandopop thing, but she always has some slight Dutch accent when speaking, it's not really a Taiwanese accent:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-1FYm2gmDE
>>69452673
It was more of a playful 'in before "hurr, you're just shilling your sister"' than an actual claim that I am related to Diana.

>>69452868
>poffertjes cafe
I hadn't realised she was Dutch born until now, in Gorinchem of all places

>>69453052
Every small town here has it's afhaalchinees and/or Chinese run snackbar, and there's usually families with kids running the places, so that sort of thing happens.

大家晚安, 明天再聊

>>69453191
Sleep well

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>>69452795
whassup

>>69453415
I love her

Chinese pop culture isn't going to hit it any time soon.
>See some posters of 'The great wall' movie.
>Go see the trailer.
>Wired fantasy stylization and setting
>Too much kitsch
>Two white guys in the movie are just some uneducated barbarian thieves trying to steal Chinese knowledge
Yeah I'll pass. This whole promise of the movie seams to be screaming CHINA #1!!!!
I had similar bad experience with other Chinese movies except 'House of Flying Daggers'. With them being unbearably over patriotic. So I know I'm probably right this time as well.

>>69450971
I'm mainly learning the language because I like it and for business opportunities.

>>69450971
I like the people, the history, the food, the cities, and the rural areas.

>>69407301
As China develops, there will be less and less women trying to marry beta foreigners just go get out of poverty.

>>69437365
Pretty good, thanks. Been busy too.

>>69457807
Why would that be relevant to anyone who is over 20 though. Maybe there's 10 years left of China being a developing nation but that's plenty of time

>>69454241
It'll just take some time. Japanese and Korean pop culture took decades to become popular and to develop into what it is today.

welp i just had like a full 10 minutes of drama episode where there were barely a few lines that i fully understood

>>69450971
>chinese on 4chan

>>69463804
>watching chinese drama

>>69466607
I can't think of anything better to watch for combined listening/reading practice

and although the vocab level is fairly high i'm sure it's worse in novels

Reminder to report and ignore wumaos.

>>69466607
Television is a great way too peak into the fantasy of a culture.
It always presents an idealized world and this way you can see what want the world to look like,how they want to live.
Same with literature most of the time

>>69414942
>4/10
I'd say she's a 3/10 at best, and probably 2/10 due to the retard piercings.

But the guy looks like a horse-faced cuck loser, so they're about level, really.

>>69450971
I'm a Vietnamese so of course, I hate China but what your saying are mostly incorrect tho

>Chinese culture
They have a very rich culture with thousand-year-old legacy of material like history landmark, literature, religion, martial art,... and much more

>third-world status
The urbanization of China is very fast, especially city near the coastal

>commies
Chinks are jew of the Asia, kek as today, someone still thinks communist is exist

>>69467446
I demand proof that the Chinese government does not consider itself communist anymore.

>>69467692
>believing what it says on the tin

>>69467692
It's a marketing ploy.
"Authoritative one party state" doesn't sound as good.

>>69467692
Proof my ass, then I demand proof that the Chinese government does consider itself communist? It's only in the name of the old day, now the jew as fuck and just like Vietnam too.

Fucking Americans and the obsessed with RED BAD COMMIES

>>69467719
What's all the education about Marx' and Mao's ideology for then?

>>69467788
to keep up appearances. it's all about appearance here

>>69467844
That sounds more convincing.
>>69467784
Faor to, and I guess big portions of the Chinese population would not tolerate depature from lip service to communism.
>>69467786
China is ruled by self-declared communists. Getting offended on behalf of the Chinese for someone calling them communist is pretty silly. Communist is probably the least offensive name you could call someone who works for the Chinese government.

>>69467929
Nah, I just hate American, land of the dumb living under the rock think self-center af.

>>69467818
She vagueley reminds me of the girl from Roomboter's Handy Dandy Shoplog. Too bad they deleted it from Youtube.

>>69467995
Well would you look at that. There's one left after all:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8arcTubBN5c

>>69415661
>not being a beta faggot

sure, but when you move to asia you become charisma man.

>>69451325
Irony, as North Korea is more like old 1930s Korea and far more "Korean" than the South.

>I need proof that China isn't communist
Go fuck yourself

>>69469422
What I asked for is that the government does not consider itself to adhere to communist ideology. That's different m7.
>>69469412
I heard they still have the punishment known as 三族 in North Korea. That might be a tall tale though.

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中國人為什麼討厭韓國? 是不是因為他們付不起那邊的美容?

我愛台女

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>>69472472
REEEEEEEEE

>>69469463
What is that?

>>69475312
三族 was a punishment in which three generations of a criminal were killed. So not just you get put to death, but also your children and parents.

>>69478812
How has your day been my pleasant journeyman? Is the winter cold in Shanxi?

>buy chinese "good for everything cream" for 80 forints
>Thing fucking stopped my headache
I don't want to know what is in it.

>tfw cute ass fuck KTV karaoke girl asked me for my WeChat
>tfw my phone does not have any battery left
>tfw wanna commit suicide for missing such a good opportunity
She was super sexy and it's rare that such a girl would ask me for my WeChat. It's usually me asking them.

>>69479319
I'm not in Shanxi familia

You're probably thinking of the Chinese guy with the Japanese vpn?

>>69479976
I thought that was you.
Meanwhile I found an interesting TV show to keep my Chinese listening skills alive:
http://maplestage.com/episode/aJOvr/WTO%E5%A7%90%E5%A6%B9%E6%9C%83-20170103-%E5%90%84%E5%9C%8B%E5%97%86%E8%BE%A3%E4%BE%86%E6%AF%94%E6%8B%BC!-%E6%96%B0%E4%BD%8F%E6%B0%91%E6%AF%94%E4%B8%80%E6%AF%94%E8%AA%B0%E6%9C%80%E8%BE%A3!

I am extremely upset that my lieutenants dragged me away before I could ask the KTV girl for her WeChat.

The only hope I have now is to ask the other hostess, who added me, for her WeChat but the probability of success in that endeavor is less than 50%. It would also be embarrassing for me to ask since technically I was molesting her during the drunken night out as well. Both of them liked it, however I liked the one that got away. T________________________T

>>69479403
What is this cream called and where to get it?

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>>69480197
Just went into a small chinese clothing store.
It looks like a bottlecap.

>>69480317
I'll look for it when I go to the Chinese shop again.
Probably won't have it since it mostly sells food. That place really is a magnet for homesick Asian people and people like us. Such cases.

>>69480154
Nah, I'm the American Guizhou-boo

Shanxi guy goes by some other name on here. I talk to him sometimes though, he's pretty nice

>>69480449
Is the sourcefagging professor still around?

>>69479761
>a hooker talked to me in a brothel

>>69482139
You know you're alpha when that happens.

>>69482139
Who said the germans don't have any humor?

>>69482536
The British when marketing their overrated Monty Python.

>>69482850
I have a german jokebook.
It's pretty funny,but lot of the jokes are just dumb puns.

>>69483212
They should learn 相聲 if they're good at that.

Is the economy really going to collapse? I keep hearing it as if its preordained

>>69487251
no it's just anti china propaganda
just like putin himself hacked hillary

>>69487251
The housing market will eventually when people realize buying houses you can't afford might not be the best idea

>>69487251
India will become the next superpower in 2047, surpassing China :^)

>>69488269
A housing market collapse will lead to an economic collapse, no?

>>69489158
who knows, maybe just a "recession"

or maybe china will just stagnate like japan did

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7dUntzzGuo

>>69489791
For the second time in this thread, the whole race play thing is past its expiry date.

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I'm learning chink for the "business"
Rate my writing

>>69407301
the girl in the middle is supa qt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn7DU_owaew

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>>69490294
Isn't that seal script?
Looks pretty good.

>>69490453

I already called dibs on her >>69414567

Back off

>>69490294
Just writing your name in traditional Chinese supposedly makes you look like a cultured snob over in 大陸. They might think you're a good if they see that.

Honestly, aftert reading a bunch of books, I can exclaim that I can't contrubute jack shit to this thread's discussion.
Good night.

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>>69490906
How is trad chink like?
Mind show me some handwritings ?

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I have this book beside me , what is it about?

>>69491757
>>69491962
I don't know that book.
Your characters look good! But my piece of advice would be to write something in classical Chinese next time, that would be more fitting.

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>>69491757
I can't write traditional (or simplified for that matter)
I wouldn't call these characters "knowledge"
Just scribbled them down looking at the first two sentences of the Annalects of Confucius.

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>>69407301
Anyone else kind of hate Japan?

>>69492036
Just keep trying man. The first few months of learning characters hare the hardest.
>>69492331
Not really. There's this lobby of butthurt former colonials here trying to stir up some anit-Japanese sentiment here, but they're not really succeeding.

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>>69492036
Keep it up

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>>69492408
WEABOO SCUM DETECTED

>>69492408
>>69492628
Thanks.
In all honesty,after writing down the character+meaning it becomes a whole lot tolerable.

>>69430277
Here's one Chinese joke I really like, in English first and then Chinese:

One day, my Dad ran into me bringing my girlfriend home.
He says to me: "Don't worry son, I won't tell your Mom, this will just be our little secret".
I reply: "Okay, thanks"
The next morning, our whole family is eating breakfast together. My Mom asks me, "Son, where did that hickey on your neck come from?"
I say: "This is me and Dad's little secret".
Afterwards, the mood in our family is very uncomfortable...

一天,爸爸撞见了我带女票回家。
他说:别担心儿子,我不会告诉妈妈的,这就当做是我们之间的一个小秘密吧。
我说:谢谢爸爸,好的。
第二天早晨,全家人一起吃饭的时候,妈妈问我:儿子,你脖子上的草莓痕是哪来的?
我说:这是我跟爸爸之间的小秘密。
然后,我们家的气氛有点怪怪的。。。

>>69450240
>Is the government or its ideology ever the subject of the deeply cynical kind of joke that has been mentioned here?

If you look at the comments section on Weibo, Zhihu, etc., along with Chinese forums like Tieba, they're full of cynical and sarcastic jokes about the government. These jokes are often deleted by censors, but it shows that Chinese still have the capacity to make political jokes.

One joke I saw recently that I really liked: "Without the Communist party, there'd be no New China. Without Henanese, there'd be no security doors" (没有共产党,就没有新中国。没有河南人,就没有防盗门).

>>69450260
>so it's basically manzai?

Based on the Wikipedia article for mazai, it does seem pretty similar to xiangsheng

>>69492937
That one was pretty funny.

>>69492331
I have nothing against Japan.

>>69492991
100% cheecky

>>69492937
Wait, what kind of slang is 女票 anyway? My friend knows the joke but wonders what's that supposed to mean. And we're talking about a native speaker.

>>69493390
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=女票+什麼意思

>>69493390
女票 just means girlfriend. I didn't get it either when I first saw the joke either. Where's your native speaker friend from though? Cause I see mainland Chinese use 女票 all the time.

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>>69493569
Go back to /b/ with that immature page.
>>69493641
>Where's your native speaker friend from though?
New Taipei.

>>69490939
>>69490453
you two can fight over her ill take Li Yitong

>chinkaboos fighting over fourth grade trash QTs

Imma stick to 勸世寶貝喵喵

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWAZpkN9cWI

>>69450971
The reason I'm interested in China is because I find the amount of change China has experienced in the past 40 years to be absolutely fascinating. China is a very dynamic society, and I love watching this nation develop. I'd say "China watcher" describes me better than "sinophile", I don't care too much about traditional Chinese culture (and I'm more interested in modern Chinese history than ancient Chinese history), but I closely follow all news related to Chinese society, politics, and foreign policy. I also feel China and East Asia in general should be the focus of US foreign policy rather than the Middle East, Europe, etc.

Chinese pop music really does suck, but China actually has a fastly growing indie rock scene which I love following:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_rock
https://rockinchina.wordpress.com/artist/
https://www.reddit.com/r/China/wiki/index#wiki_popular_music
https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/y63oo/whats_the_music_scene_like_in_china_right_now/
https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/1d37au/anyone_have_recommendations_for_chinese_music/
https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/ppw5r/chinese_language_music_recommendations_anything/

>>69494226
She's kind of creepy but I like the music.

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>>69407301
>Being slaves to pussy

Pathetic

>>69487251
>>69487537
I don't think China will "collapse", but I think China (like all economies) will inevitably go through a recession at some point. Gordon Chang and others who continuously say that China will collapse anyday now are idiots; but I think it's naive when Chinese just label any concerns about the stability of the Chinese economy as "anti-China propaganda" and assume that China will always have high economic growth.

Really, you ask twenty different people about the Chinese economy, you get twenty different answers. Probably only the top leadership of the CCP knows the true state of the Chinese economy.

>>69490294
>>69490906
>>69491218
>>69491757

I knew one guy who could write in seal script and it looked pretty damn cool. Keep it up!

>>69492331
Nah, now that my Chinese is relatively fluent, I'll probably start learning Japanese soon. Despite learning Chinese for years, I'm still kinda a weeaboo since I like anime, J-pop, and want to travel to Japan someday.

I'm still glad I studied Chinese first though. As I said here, I find China to be incredibly dynamic, especially compared to Japan. Japan still produces a lot culturally, but in every other aspect they seem stagnant. Being a "Japan watcher" probably isn't as fun as being a China watcher.

I've also heard from people who've lived in both China and Japan that they find Chinese to be much more easy-going and relaxed. They'll say they never got invited to a Japanese friend's home while living in Japan, whereas I've been invited to my Chinese friend's home many times and they've even cooked meals for me.

I also think Chinese have every right to object to historical revisonism by Japanese nationalists, and that too many foreigners dismiss anti-Japanese sentiment in China as "brainwashing". It's kinda hard for Chinese to "get over it", when Japanese keep saying shit like the Nanjing Massacre, Unit 731, etc. never happened.

>>69494226
You krauts consistently prove you have the worst taste in asians

>>69495093
But it's also kind of hard for the Japanese not to behave the way they do when admitting wrongdoings and giving in means making concessions to China, and making concessions sends a clear message that Tokyo will do whatever the bloody hell Beijing wants if it drags some sort of war history into the conversation.

The Chinese could get over the Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution, they can certainly get over Japan as well.

>>69493684
>New Taipei.

女票 definitely has to be mainland slang then. There seems to be a lot of difference between Taiwan and mainland China slang. For instance, I've seen Taiwanese use the Japanese word for boobs ("oppai", and written in Chinese as 欧派), but I never seen mainland Chinese use that word.

>>69495093
Good luck, Japanese is like 3 times as hard as Chinese, but knowing kanji ahead of time will at least let you focus on the important parts of the language.

>>69495341
Japanese words are quite common in Taiwanese vernacular. Especially in Taichung. They sometimes speak Taiyu, Mandarin and Japanese in one sentence. Pretty confusing but funny.

>>69407624
It's "nearly" or "close" but it is really used together with something else.

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>>69495096
stfu this is my GF and I know you're jealous as fuck because she is gorgeous.

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>>69495693
>>>/soc/

>>69495299
You make a good point, but I still feel that Japanese politicians have a habit of making revisionist statements about the war unprompted. It would be best if Japanese politicians would just shut up about the war; it's not like they'll be able to convince the world that their war was really a mission to "liberate the peoples of East Asia".

I also find such statements annoying as an American because it draws us in too. Our alliance with Japan means there's now a chance we may go to war with China over uninhabited rocks, and I feel revisionist statements by Japanese politicians is one reason the Diaoyu/Senkaku Islands dispute is as bad as it is. Because if Chinese renounce their claims to the Diaoyu Islands, they're essentially giving in to a nation which denies it committed war crimes against them.

These statements (especially over comfort women) also piss off South Korea, and for a while this had the effect of driving South Korea into the arms of China. This rapprochement between South Korea and China only ended because Fat Kim III tested one nuke too many, and South Korea then decided it needed THAAD after all.

And I think the reason why Chinese are more willing to get over the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution is because those were atrocities committed by Chinese towards Chinese. Humans tend to be more forgiving of suffering inflicted on them by their own countrymen, and less forgiving of suffering inflicted on them by foreigners.

>>69495506
Taiwanese truly are the biggest weebs of East Asia, and quite possibly in the world.

>>69495937
You make some fair points too my friend.
But honestly, the Chinese government has way too much to gain from having some sort of diplomatic controversy with Japan. They'll just make up a new one even if the current ones get resolved.

It's like Argentina with the Falkland islands, whenever the people are frustrated and need to be distracted, the government can just point at those to save its arse.

On the one hand, the way the Japanese deal with their history can be annoying, but on the other hand the Chinese government cynically stirs out controversy about it for concessions and domestic political gain.

>>69495693
I concede your gf is gorgeous but your other posts are awful

>>69495363
Yeah, Japanese grammar and honorifics is the one thing I'm dreading. One thing I loved about Chinese is its simple grammar: no cases, no gender, no tenses, no honorifics, no "polite speech", and it's SVO. I started studying Chinese after studying German in high school (and I hated German), so I was thrilled when I first heard I wouldn't have to spend time memorizing the cases and gender of words.

Learning to write characters was actually my favorite part of Chinese, and I laughed whenever I saw Japanese learners complaining about the amount of characters they have to learn. The fact that kanji has multiple readings will be a challenge; and since I only studied simplified characters and not traditional, I'm not sure how much of the characters I know are also simplified in Japanese. But still, I'm glad knowing Chinese first will help me with kanji.

My girlfriend is Chinese. She's adorable and surprisingly thicc. Spends lots of time taking photos and cooks really well.

>>69496322
Japanese is somewhere in between traditional and simplified Chinese, usually more on the traditional side. They also have some simplified characters of their own that are different from the ones you see in China.

大家晚安

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Taiwan, do you know it?

>>69496158
Right, I'm not denying that the Chinese government uses history and anti-Japanese sentiment as a way to distract Chinese from domestic problems. They undoubtedly do, and "Patriotic Education" has definitely made Chinese youth more nationalistic.

I would still say though that revisionist statements by Japanese do the job of the CCP Propaganda Department for them. So that's why I object when I see foreigners imply that anti-Japanese sentiment is 100% government brainwashing and that Japan is doing nothing wrong.

>>69496418
晚安荷兰兄弟

>>69494226
>>69495693
What is that thing

>/sino/
>99% of the flags are not Chinese

对这一段生活,梭罗描绘说:“我到树林中去,因为我希望从容不迫地生活,仅仅面对生活中最基本的事实,看看我是否能掌握生活的教诲,不至于在临终时才发现自己不曾生活过。”

>>69496559
is that something like tai qi?

>>69496559
doesn't look anything to me