Most effective army in history

>>69393774
Swedish army in the Thirty Years was literally full of Scottish officers and soldiers so you can thank us for that

>>69393922
...Led by great swedish commanders and generals. But fyi, the Carolean army only existed later after that war

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>>69394103
>Led by great swedish commanders and generals
Actually a large number of general staff in the Swedish Army were Scots.

>>69394407
Fine

>>69393922
Add Finnish soldiers to that, and French money, suddenly you realise that the "Swedish" empire had nothing to do with Swedes

>>69394626
Är du finländsk eller bara en landshatare? Den Karolinska armen var mycket finsk, fast majoriteten var svenskar

>>69394407
>>69394626
Am I witnessing a murder?

>>69394697
>Den Karolinska armen var mycket finsk, fast majoriteten var svenskar

Var därför den förlorade

Vår armé under 30 åriga kriget var knappast Svensk

WE

>>69394740
No, the >>>>>>carolean<<<<< army in the 18th century was actually swedish.

>>69394812
It also lost, unlike the non swedish army during the 30 year war

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>>69393774
We'd probably drop your ass ...

>>69395041
>yfw swedish navy was larger than spanish armada and had bigger warships

>>69394887
It was Hardly due to swedish incompetence however

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Swedes are by nature europe's elite warriors. Simply nobody beats them in their iron discipline and their steely autism.

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>>69393774
>most effectiv

>>69395134
Swedes and germans. We must have warrior blood in our veins or something

>>69395126
It was

>mostly Swedish army under Swedish leadership
>It is not our fault we lost!!!!

lmao

>>69395217
Germans have the worst military history in Europe.

>>69395269
Swedes and germans have always Done well alone in war. But we have both lost due to insuffiecent manpower, resources etc. Not a wehraboo btw

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>>69393774
hmmm

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>>69395362
No, Germans got their shit kicked in by almost everyone around them, they suck at war. This have been the case ever since ancient times.

It wasn't untill the prussians came along that they had some success. And they where Germanised west slavs.

>>69395408
>30 years war army was not swedish
>oh Look how bad we are that our """swedish""" army lost that battle
Retard

>>69395473
>strength
>12000
>captured
>20000

>>69395535
We are not the same poster

>>69395527
Fine. The swedish and notice my use of words here: the swedish CAROLEAN army was great. We still lost sure but Look at most of our battles casualties. Can you really put the blame on swedish incompetence

>yeah, yeah your country has done amazing millitary feats with such a small population
>but, but they were not actually SWEDISH, they were actually X
>swedes never did any fighting at all, btfo, refugees welcome

Everytime

>>69395659
No, but if you'd read you'd see that it was foreign soldiers and foreign commanders who lost that battle you self hating punk

>>69395719
Carolean army still retard

>>69395802
Do you not realize I'm on your side? Well, not anymore since you're a retard.

>>69393774
Mongol army in 13th centuary

>>69395835
Apparently i missread that. Why do we swedes have such a boner for hating ourselves anyway

>>69395689
>We still lost sure but Look at most of our battles casualties.

who cares? it is end results that matter, we lost.

>Can you really put the blame on swedish incompetence

ofc, making bad strategic decisions is a sign of incompetence.

>>69395757
I didn't post that picture

>>69395719

They where Scots,Finns and German, not to mention the French funding. It really had almost nothing to do with Swedes.

>>69395919
most of us don't, we are a very delusional and arrogant people who think we are superior to the rest of the world, despite being such an irrelevant and unnacomplished country.

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>>69395992
>Swedes
>Proud
>Patriotic
>Nationalistic
Haha no were not, you're less special than you think

>>69395642
well yeah, it was a moving army, only 12 000 of the 20 000 were soldiers.

>>69396054
Ahahahahaha, Swedes are not patriotic or nationalistic, that is true beacuse that would actually require courage and a will to fight, which Swedes don't have.

We are however extremely arrogant, and smug. We believe that Sweden are better and more "moral" than everyone else. That we are a "humanitarian superpower".

>>69396158
Patriotism is liking our traditions, our contributions and not have a pessimist view of our history. I can't see why so many are against that

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I dunno, those k/d-ratios are a bit high.

>>69396288
I am not, Swedes in general are however, beacuse you see, traditions and history is not progressive or "tolerant". And there is nothing more addictive to Swedes than virtue signaling about how progressive and "good" we are.

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>>69396345
>Ivan Da Shit Saw

>>69396365
That's why ive decided to actually like my country and what it has stood for, i think our current thinking is horrendous. When it comes to history i don't think we should glorify genocide and atrocities but i don't see the harm in acknowledging that our actual swedish army has Done really good in battles (not wars)

>>69396345
Actual soviet casualities were about 4k men

>>69396524
I do not like Swedens history, it's culture, it's politics, it's traditions or it's "values". I still respect Swedish nationalists beacuse their values align with my own. Doesn't change the fact that Sweden is a shithole however.

Även språket vårat är hemskt, det lyckas låta både fjolligt och arrogant på samma gång.

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>>69396345
>*low

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>>69393774

>>69396692
Vad man tycker är objektivt. Då förstår jag iallafall.

The Wehrmacht

voortrekkers

>>69396921
It lost

>>69396962
That has nothing to do with Efficiency
Also you lost as well

>>69396552
Keep telling that to yourself

>>69397085
Yes the Swedish army sucked balls, it could only beat Germans. It lost against everyone else.

>>69397114
>keep telling truth to yourself lol

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>those captures
nice.

>>69397158
Danmark?

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>>69397158
stop bullying sweden you foreigner!

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>>69397552
>foreigner!

if only...

>>69397305
delet this

>>69397645
Swedens crowning achievement, Giving major rek to denmark in history

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>>69397604

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>>69393774
Thanks to fingolian warriors. That's why you haven't been in a war after you lost us to russia

>>69393774
Hi

>>69397876
are you French or just a Swedeshit on vacation?

>>69397158
Since its time for swede bashing, I would like to remind everyone that the current swedish dynasty was founded by a Frenchman who was a betrayer, deciever and a coward.

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>>69398034
Oui, frog

>>69398034
He is turning in his grave right now at the sight of what his dynasty have become. At least they had a shred of dignity in the past.

>>69398311
Good fucking riddance

>>69398026
French. Not fond of traitors desu

http://battleofnarva.ytmnd.com/

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>>69393774

>>69405044
HRE/UK/Rus like "omg retards don't kill him"
FR like "Lmao i do what i want to do"