How relevant is your country to the history of mankind? Discuss

>>69323556
not so much apparently

How is Saudi Arabia and India relevant?

>>69323556
kek
I forgot about Greece.
They should be Blue.

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>>69323556
Sweden's very irrelevant, but what is up with that map? Ethiopia is as relevant as Turkey? Greece is as relevant as New Zealand?!

>>69323650
Np,we still love you Cyprus!

>Russia not first tier relavent

>>69323720
Islam and Buddhism. Also the development of the numeral system.
Frankly they've been more relevant than Germany over the past 1000 years.

>>69323556
How come Greece and Poland are irrelevant?

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>>69323556
Greece isn't relevant?

>>69323744
Ethiopia should be blue due to being the cradle of humanity

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>>69323556
fixed your shitty map

>Kenya

huh?

>>69323556
no us=no yanks=no 4chan
no need to thank us

>>69324066
>>Kenya

Nice flag tho.

>>69324038
Ethiopia is relevant for Abyssinia and the pan-African colors and shiet.

Kenya is the cradle of humanity.

>>69324019
Also learn to fucking read. I said I forgot about Greece you island nigger. >>69323727

>>69323556
How come USA is first tier relevant?
They haven't been relevent for a full of 100 years.

They should be Orange or something.

Russia is Darkblue and so is Spain.

>>69324109
thanks

Your flag is...original

>>69323556
American education...

>>69323556
>Damascus not being relevant
shit map desu

>>69324130
I meant the Kenyan flag, silly.

>>69323556
Not much. We contributed with music.
Entertainment in sports. Artur Avila got a Fields Medal so some knowledge too.

Unless I do like Americans and claim to be Portuguese just like they say they are italians or whatever, then we discovered this part of the new world lol.

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>>69323556
>Yemen

>>69324183
oh

I still like your flag, tho

Every colonial power should objectively be blue

>>69324256
Invented coffee.

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>>69324275
And that's why I have Britain, France, Spain, and Portugal.

Not the meme ones like the Netherlands and Belgium.

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>>69323556
>Istanbul
>Anatolia

>Russia
>Kaliningrad

>not the same colours

The famed American education strikes again.

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Well this is my impression.

In specially the Israel Area deserves a deep relevancy.

Japan should be green I forgot to do. Besides some attends to stier shit with China and corea they basically stick to themselves.

And for the butthurt niggers from burgeria: The relevant part of your Country can be lived through in one life (70 years). That's simply not enough to compete in a all time ranking.

>>69323556
>Portugal
>First-tier Relevancy
t. Alberto Barbarossa

>>69323556

pretty much like cyrus :x

The map is wront through.... sweden is second-tier.

>>69324038

Cradle of subhumans more like.

>turkey
>not the cradle of humanity
>göbekli tepe

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>>69324520
>flag
>loving sandpeople

Dark times we live in.

>>69323650
Poland, Austria, and Sweden are pretty relevant. Plus Turkey, the country that shaped the history of the Middle East and Balkans is pretty fucking important.

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New and improved map.

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>Implying our gold didn't auspice the original accumulation of capital in Europe thus effectively building the structure needed to develop industrious capitalism

Dumb fucking american.

>>69324928
>Istanbul
>Anatolia

>Russia
>Kaliningrad

>>69324351
>Not the meme ones like [the people who invented capitalism]
If you take all of history as your scope, America is second tier at best.
>B-But history starts at 1945

>>69323556
We invented timezones

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>>69324928
what the fuck do they teach you in school man

>>69325008
I dunno. We invented the atom bomb and landed on the moon. Those two developments outdo whatever your meme history of getting cucked by Britain has been.

>>69325135
>egypt
>iran
>saudi arabia

on the same level of relevancy as
>denmark
>sweden
>the netherlands

>Iraq, the country that literally invented writing and farming

>on the same relevancy level as Burundi and Laos

Get the fuck out.

>>69325135
>Hungary
>relevant

They've been irrelevant ever since they got cucked by the t*rks, Austrians, and Venetians. Plus, just listen to their national anthem.

>>69325459
Pretty sure that's Poland...

>>69325533
>American Education

>>69325648
Where the fuck do you see Hungary highlighted on that map?

>>69323556
>Spain
>Relevant

>>69325905
Your biggest relevancy comes from discovering the Americas.

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What do you think?
Modern borders dont take actual relevancy into account, as some vassalised desert isnt necessarily important because the relevant part of the country planted its flag on it.

>>69326025

Russia is definitely first-tier. Eastern Anatolia is not relevant at all.

>>69325959
Discovered by an italian. Spain is not relevant.

We was russia, we declared independance critical times and we were only part of russia to get rid of gommunism :D if we hadnt done that multiple times soviet union would have been a even bigger

>>69326202
Yes. But commissioned by the Spanish government.

>>69323556
It isn't.

>>69324520
>Tschechien
>relevant

>Amerika
>irrelevant
ist gut, Sören

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>>69326025
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>>69326105
Mh I thought of Anatolia as relevant for the same reason every bumfuck godforgotten corner in the middleeast probably contributed to the agricultural revolution in some way.
Göbliki Tepe is there.
Now somehow there is not enough green on the map, the northeast of the germany-poland region only became relevant quiete recently so I make it green.

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>>69326502

>>69326776
Singapore/Melacca and Panama should be yellow tbqh. Too important trade route in modern history

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>>69326025
> germany first tier
> russia second tier

lol wtf is this

fixed

>>69323556
The country (Italy) is extremely relevant but my region (Sardinia) is the most irrelevant place in Europe

>>69323556
Not in the slightest

>>69325135
What the fuck do they teach you in school?

What did Portugal and Spain contribute to humanity?

Does creating the shittiest countries in the world count as an achievement?

>>69327008
b-but muh rea metallica, protestant bookprinters and the sack and incorporation of rome!
(Also that time we tried to be Ghengis Khan.)

>>69327074
Imagine what would have happened if the chinese found you first.

>>69327188
We would be Chinese? What's bad about that? I'd rather be Chinese than a moor monkey hybrid tbqh.

>>69327188
>Imagine what would have happened if the chinese found you first.
I dont think they would have imported niggers at least cuz they have enough population from their homeland

Republic of Moldova and Romania.
Kept the filthy Turks to attack the Western Europe during the medieval times.
Good enough?

>>69327188
no niggers in south america?

Already a brighter future

>>69326502
Delusional burger

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>>69326944
panama is the most historically relevant in the world by virtue of allowing the gulf stream and the great american interchange... singapore is a spec of poopy in comparison

>>69327074
>Started the discovery age that made Europe a superpower continent
>Mapped the world
>Exported European culture

Happy 2017!!!

>relevantugal

>>69327398
>started the discovery age that allowed Spanimoors and Moortuguese to take more gold and silver (and are still poor and jobless today)
>exported subhuman iberian "culture" mixed with african monkey "culture"
>meanwhile the British created the best countries in the world with English being our lingua franca

You pretty much did what vikings had done thousands of years ago except they didn't ruin anything.

>>69327379
>irrelevant

>russians stopped hitler
>yeah I guess they were sort of relevant

>>69327601
And the world would be a better place without Portugal and Spain because the UK would have colonized South America instead.

>>69327755
>Russians stopped hitler
You forgot that Hitler killed himself,right? He stopped himself.

>>69323556
It's quite strange that you consider us irrelevant though, since the US are entirely based on the former superpower "the Netherlands". I think Austria and Greece (not the country, but the area) should get a higher rank as well.

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this is how i think it should be
btw how is iran relevant?

>>69327929
this

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>>69327929
at least we invented hall-effect thrusters, if you think destroying the nazis and saving jews and liberating europe is not enough

>>69328233
Well,you guys had some monster ass tanks and shit so basically you mowed down Germany, but not Hitler. He didn't let himself be killed by dirty commies.

>>69323556
>not even green
Triggered

>>69328196
Persian Zoroastrianism is said to have influenced Judaism to some extend and they heavily interacted with the middleeast to create lotsa basic culture.
Later on the made shias big and after baghdad got mongol'd they were the major bastion of islamic intellectualism.

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>>69328343
we have that (fake and female) skull of hitler tho

its totally original

>>69328638
It's more of a medal for your country to show how you one-handed Hitler. (Which as I said,ain't true)

>>69327800
British colonisation isn't some magic wonderdrug that can fix the problems with your country automatically. You would be comparable to Africa had we got our hands on you, because that's the comparable level of your peoples before the Spaniards and Portugese showed up.

>>69326202
Financed by spain, colonized by spain
Plus that gave us the money to fight all around europe, lotsa wars and changes on the political map and in the balance of power caused by us, plus being a bridge between european and arabian knowledge through the al-andalus/christian kingdoms relationship
Second rate relevancy, at least. Consider the fact thata sucession war of ours dragged pretty much all of europe to war

>>69331011
plus all the important colonies you shat

>>69325135
The netherlands should definitely be blue

>>69323556
literally irrelevant

>5000 years of aboriginals doing nothing because they're aboriginals
>British prisoners get sent here because of over crowding
>Some free citizens want to escape dense Britain/want cheap land so they set up colonies too
>cull a bunch of aboriginals, takes too long
>instead we give them access to free white education, breed them with whites to try get rid of them being aboriginals
>realise there's a fuck load of resources around Australia
>mine, economic boom, lots of growth
>get cucked and loosen strict white immigration by getting rid off/changing heavily the 'White Australia Policy'
>resources start to slow down
>suck off America because world power
>apologise to aboriginals
>attempt to diversify economy
>no one knows how because our whole '''relevant''' history is off the back of mining raw resources
>successful baby boomers are rich because of the mining boom, so they give little fucks (this is the majority demographic who holds positions of power)
>non-successful baby boomers and everyone else either find a trade or live off the government
>growth slows down because mining slows down so housing/construction industry slows down and as a result trades are no longer easy as fuck to get
>so now everyone who isn't the offspring of a successful baby boomer(s) or a trade business owner lives off government benefits
>if our economy doesn't diversify and we can't find relevant jobs for all our newly educated/out of work but educated citizens then we are going to have a big problem
>morphing into an irrelevant welfare state
>fun times

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>>69331962
Other than the first couple that's Canada exactly.

Honestly, as you get into the deep of it, it's hard to find regions yhat haven't had a moment of relevance, wether by global, regional or proxy contribution.

If we're to do this right, we should make a timelapse with the shifting focuses of relevance, then see were they've staued at more consistently and on what levels of relevance for it's time. Like, a regional contribution will feel like a global one if transport at the time made it feel like that region was the whole world (whatever the precolombine where up to), and philosophy can make a country relevant and then turn into proxy relevance (communism)

>>69323720
Islam, first indus civilzation
>>69323727
Greece the founder ou modern civilization>>69323556
My contry started the discovery of the World. If my coutry didn't start probabily most of you didn't born

>>69332527
But you actually did better in your history, plus comfier environment

>>69332527
We are brothers. :(

>>69323556
>Iran

Lol, I am convinced /int/ is people that gain all their knowledge here rather than actual books

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>>69336325
>in your history

That's all passing now as well. We used to produce raw materials and manufactured goods but now that knowledge economy meme is king. My cunt is also pants on head retarded about immigration as well.

>>69336352
RIP White Commonwealth, we had some good times.

>>69332527
It's tough because I honestly don't know how we're going to become economically relevant once our resources are pretty much all gone. Unless we innovate and find a new industry that no country has thought of than we're fucked.

Instead of selling all our resources to the chinks for a quick buck and then have them sell them back as manufactured goods; we should have built up a manufacturing industry in our own country.

Would have meant our country had good experience manufacturing and extracting raw materials, probably would have lead to manufacturing of mining drones or something similar to improve efficiency of resource extraction.

Shouldn't governments be doing a good job at considering all this shit considering the money and man power they have at their fingertips? I mean it obviously seems simpler than it is, but fuck me, surely they have given reflected on their shit decisons

>>69336535
Gov'ts seem to view the world in the simplest memes possible

>China is stronk, we must pivot
>Computers is stronk, we do that now

Doesn't help that we all view the economy as a holy God that is the only measure of worth for a nation.

The native people of my country invented several logographic writing systems and domesticated certain native plants for agricultural use (such as maize, tomatoes, beans, squash, avocado, chili peppers, and cocoa). They also built many cities and had some level of civilization.
Mexico might have had the potential to become the home of a great civilization like those of India or China had it been settled 10,000 years earlier.
Other than that, it hasn't really been too relevant to world politics and affairs since about 500 years ago.

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>>69323556
Stupid mother bitches. Indus civilization and gandhara is ALL PAKISTANI.
Pakistan should be blue.

>>69336646
Why is Saudi Arabia part of Layer 1 even though it doesn't have any kind of merits or noteworthy facts on it other than being the birthplace of Islam and having lots of oil? They don't even grow any kind of special crops or spices, nor do they serve as an important trade route, or have any kind of touristic hotspots (other than Mecca, Medina, and Jiddah).

The only relevant civilization is classical Greek. Everything thereafter has been a downward spiral of dissapointment

Finland is irrelevant but Finnish people like Rurik, John Morton and Matt Damon have changed the world

>>69323556
We killed a lot of Asians and Pacific natives...so at least a little.

>>69328991
>>69327800
This. Look at the British colonies in Africa and south Asia, they are complete shitholes
New Zealand and USA are only good because they still have plenty of white people

>>69323556
Very irrelevant. We shouldn't even be a country

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>>69337303

>>69328196
>btw how is iran relevant?
Achaemenids
Parthians
Sassanids
Islamic Golden Age during the Abbasids
Safavids
Currently every political debate in your country brings up Iran, and has been doing so for four decades straight now.

Iran was the first global empire, uniting 2/5 of the world's population under one Emperor, and fought the Greeks and later the Romans for a thousand years.

Then when Iran was incorporated into the caliphate, Iranians led the scientific surge, making great contributions to astronomy, medicine, mathematics, chemistry, poetry and more for centuries. Islam was only spread so vastly once the Iranians converted and took charge of expanding the realm eastward.

After being genocided by the Mongols they persevered and came back to create yet another great empire to rival the Ottomans. They defeated and kicked out the European colonists from the Persian Gulf. After that they conquered India and created the largest collection of jewels in the world.

Now even after a couple of centuries of decadence they've resurfaced as a formidable emerging country, persisting through war and sanctions without help from any other country. Back in the 70s the Shah hosted the largest international party to celebrate the 2500 year anniversary of the Persian Empire.

Today American elites are so afraid of another reemergence of an Iran that will dominate Western Asia like it has in the past that they have to constantly keep it handicapped with embargoes and threats while subsidizing the growth and security of its rivals (Israel, Turkey, Saudi Arabia) yet Iran is still winning every battle it participates in, from Iraq to Syria to Lebanon and even Yemen.

>btw how is Iran relevant?
That's how.

>>69337528
>when the Iranian diaspora gets triggered

>>69323556
>greece white
>burgerland blue
Lowqualitybait

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That no relevancy feel

>>69338614
It's a good feel, savour it. You never know when all of 4chinz will hate your cunt.

>>69338116
>Historyfags don't exist, anyone defending history must be a triggered diaspora

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>>69338699
Not arguing against what you said, any history fag would agree Persia is a very important civilization.

It's just that last paragraph seemed extremely diasporafag tier.

>>69326025
>Yellow Korea
sad but true
Because of Gook war, Japan got rich by Amerifat army and managed to avoid war-crime punishment

>>69323556
>american news plastered 24/7 by da ebil russians controlling the elections and trying to dominate the world
>second tier relevant

>Iran was the first global empire, uniting 2/5 of the world's population under one Emperor,
>Islam was only spread so vastly once the Iranians converted and took charge of expanding the realm eastward.
>they persevered and came back to create yet another great empire to rival the Ottomans
>After that they conquered India and created the largest collection of jewels in the world
>Today American elites are so afraid of another reemergence of an Iran that will dominate
Top kek. Proof?

And if Iran is so great why don't you go back to your empire-state m8 (I know you won't tho)

>>69323556
We're completely irrelevant, if we disappeared tomorrow no-one would notice or care. In fact some people like the brits here might be happy.

>>69323556
Highly relevant, America has invented everything

>>69323556
>ethiopia is second tier relevant
>greece is not

LaQuan pls

how the fuck are we not historically relevant, we literally started world war 2

>>69339966
No, no. WW2 was started by your neighbours. You just happened to get trampled underfoot.

>>69324520
Agree, but I would have kept Ethiopia green, colored Pakistan blue, Korea green, and Mongolia blue (because they build the greatest empire ever which destroyed a lot of relevant empires).

very

>>69324930
>implying that gold itself can develop anything

Adam Smith himself explained that gold was quite unimportant and that what was truly revolutionary about america was the trade and the new markets that were opened

Russia not being first tier is really strange... Also you could argue with Afghanistan and pakistan in second tier since they were parts of India and Iran when they got their relevancy.

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>>69323556
Uzbekistan is in the Second-tier Relevancy.

Uzbeks themselves are pretty much irrelevant.
but this country owns so many important Iranian cities in its territory.
>Samarkand
>Urgench
>Andijan
>Fergana valley
>Khiva, Bukhara, Kokand